Armand (2024) Movie Script
1
No, I'm not stressed.
I had to run. I'm going to...
Are you okay? I want you to be okay.
Hello? Armand?
There you are.
I love you.
Do you love me?
Armand?
- Hi.
- Hi.
- Shall we start?
- Now?
- I can't stand the noise here.
- Okay, I'll just...
A primary school with a broken fire alarm.
- I should send everyone home.
- It's not good.
Well, it's Armand again.
- Have you called Elisabeth?
- She didn't have time to talk.
I didn't want to tell her via text.
But I confirmed the time with a smiley.
- A smiley?
- Yes.
I didn't want her to worry.
She just answered "okay".
- Was that...?
- And Sarah and Anders?
I spoke to them yesterday. But I think
it's hard to verify what they told us.
The boys, they didn't
really say that much.
Well, I think we should just
see how it develops.
- Okay?
- If necessary, we'll step in and help you.
- I see. So I'll handle it on my own?
- There's no reason to inflate it.
Elisabeth is a public figure.
She's been through a lot.
- So I think we should tread carefully.
- For the boys' sake too.
Yes, of course.
- I'll try to stay sober and factual.
- Sober is good.
I think I've got it.
I just have one more question. What's
the procedure in these circumstances?
If it has happened.
Well, to put it this way, there's...
I mean, we do have procedures.
Right, Ajsa?
We have to agree on what has happened.
That's the first step.
It might be... It might be serious,
but it might also be completely innocent.
But... Oh dear. Dammit.
In general...
In general it's important to show
understanding for both parties.
Yes, I understand.
But isn't there a procedure?
Yes. Oh dear. Dripping everywhere.
- Maybe you should go and wipe it off?
- I think I have to. Excuse me.
Right, she...
- She's been bleeding a lot lately.
- Yeah.
Guess I'll have to make my own procedure.
Yeah.
And Sunna?
Be careful about the words you choose.
- Be diplomatic. Sober, like you said.
- Sure.
And Sunna...
You represent the school.
Keep your opinions to yourself.
- Yes, of course.
- One more thing.
- This is between us and those concerned.
- Of course.
And one more thing.
If this blows over, it blows over.
Yes.
This will work out just fine.
You've got a great presence.
Thank you.
Right, let's get out of this hothouse.
Hi.
Hi. Thank you for coming
at such short notice.
- What's happened?
- I'll tell you.
But let's wait for Jon's parents
to get here.
- Jon's parents? Why?
- Like I said on the phone...
You said nothing on the phone.
Is it so serious that Sarah and Anders...
I understand, but we must wait for them.
Have a seat in the meantime.
Take off your coat.
Sunna, you call a meeting.
Won't say what it's about.
I'll tell you everything soon, but now
we have to wait for Jon's parents.
I'm sorry, I realise you
must have many questions.
Please sit down in the meantime.
Take off your coat.
It's nothing serious.
Okay.
- Nothing serious?
- No.
No.
Very well.
- Would you like to take off your coat?
- Yeah.
Some weather today.
Hm? Yeah.
Right, that's probably them.
Are you the only one here?
Yes, we thought it would be
best initially.
Okay.
Hi. I'm sure it'll be okay, Sarah.
- Sorry. Hi, Elisabeth.
- Hi, Sarah.
- What's going on?
- Oops. Excuse me.
Sarah?
Let's just hear what Sunna has to say.
Right. First I'd like to thank you
for coming
at such short notice.
This was the only day available,
with summer vacation coming up.
I think we should start by
defining what our goal is.
Right.
I should probably mention that we've had
problems with our fire alarm lately.
It suddenly goes off in some rooms.
But they'll fix it as soon as possible.
- Shouldn't we go outside?
- No, it's just a glitch.
It'll be fixed by tomorrow.
Right, okay.
I hope that we in any case
may reach some sort of...
Agreement on the way forward,
and leave this room
with an open mind.
So... It started when our cleaner
found Jon
crying in the boys' room.
He was crying,
and had a small scratch on his face.
At first he didn't want to say
what had happened, except that
it was Armand who'd done it.
Jon has spoken to you two,
Sarah and Anders.
They came to us, and asked us
to treat this as a serious...
A deviation, a possible deviation.
I mean...
In their opinion, and of course
we take this seriously, a case
of sexual deviation.
It's known to happen among children.
But we think it's a good idea that we meet
and discuss this together.
I understand this may sound brutal, and we
should be careful about categorising it.
But the school views this
as disturbing behaviour.
This is why we have gathered
to talk about it.
Without going into detail...
What's actually happened?
Tell her.
Right.
"Armand and Jon were playing
in the school yard.
"Jon wanted to play with Petter.
This made Armand upset."
"He said he had something to show Jon
in the boys' room, but there"
"Armand didn't have anything
to show Jon."
"Jon said he'd rather play with Petter.
They'd agreed to play together.
"Jon tried to leave, but Armand,
who's stronger, wouldn't let him go."
"Jon cried for help. Armand pinned
him down, groped and hit him."
"He said that if Jon didn't keep quiet,
he'd take him"
"anally."
"Armand allegedly made Jon
look into his bodily openings."
"Then Armand left. An employee
found Jon crying in the boys' room"
"with a scratch in his face
and his pants off."
"This is how we became aware of"
"this incident."
Let me first say that this is
not easy to hear about.
And obviously I understand that
this can't have been
easy to hear from Jon.
But, and I have to say this,
I think the school should have
informed me before we met.
Then I could have had
a proper talk with Armand
and heard his side of the story,
so we could have had all the facts
clearly before us.
I cannot, in my wildest imagination,
understand
that he could have done
anything like this.
I mean, where could he even get the idea?
Well, I hear what you're saying,
and in my defence, or rather
on behalf of the school,
we thought it would be best to
present this face to face
with all involved
because it's such a serious,
or rather that... It's an incident,
a troubling incident.
I would say that it's quite serious.
Yes, but...
It's been difficult to verify.
So it's our wish to engage in dialogue
rather than accuse anyone of anything.
It was our suggestion that we could meet
and talk about it together.
- We thought it would be only fair.
- Right.
But...
I mean, is there nothing about this
that sounds a little strange to you?
Do we simply accept this as a fact, that
a six-year-old has assaulted a classmate?
Like, how did...
How did Jon tell you about this?
Which words did he use?
The way you tell it,
a six-year-old doesn't have
that vocabulary; "anal", "oral", "fuck"?
He barely knows the difference
between boys and girls.
"Fuck" is a word many six-year-olds know.
Listen, Jon came home.
He was afraid. He was nauseous.
- He had bruises all over his body...
- Bruises too?
That's new to me.
- Didn't you see them too, Anders?
- Yes.
I suppose there were, yes.
Right, I'm calling Armand.
Well, I think we have to give her
a moment.
There.
It wasn't Armand.
- Are you kidding?
- No.
Armand said he didn't do it. Jon's lying.
I don't think we should
accuse Jon of lying.
Why? Armand says Jon's lying.
You haven't talked to Armand.
They have, Elisabeth.
Listen, I'm very fond of Jon.
And he's a very kind,
curious
and inventive boy.
And yes...
Maybe he's a bit confused.
And you're absolutely certain
that it was Armand?
Yes. Honestly, Sunna.
Yes, we're certain. 100 % certain.
You know why? Because Jon's told us,
you and your colleague.
- And because you believe him.
- He'd never lie about this.
I think it's a disgrace that
the school doesn't take it seriously.
Armand isn't an easy child.
One more thing:
Jon says that when he visits you,
you walk about naked
and hug him all the time.
- What? Where did that come from?
- Let's try to stick to the facts here.
Our son has potentially been exposed
to trauma and injury...
But we don't know anything.
You're using a child's statements
to make unacceptable allegations.
We know nothing!
A child's testimony is enough
to imprison an adult for twenty years.
It's difficult to prove.
You keep presenting new allegations.
How can we relate to that?
It's nonsense. You talk about nudity.
- This is not getting us anywhere.
- Complete nonsense.
- Like I run around naked?
- I think we... Elisabeth?
I think we should take a short break now
to calm down. I must...
I must remind you that this is an issue we
need to resolve
for Armand's and Jon's sake,
for both of them.
Elisabeth?
I don't know.
Where are the others? The principal,
school nurse, inspector?
It's okay. Let's not blow this
out of proportion.
So...
Let's take five.
Sunna? Sunna, could you just...
Just wait a moment.
I must ask the school
to take this seriously.
But we do, Sarah. Really. I promise.
It doesn't seem as if Elisabeth
can absorb this.
I realise we need to be considerate to her
the way things are now.
But it doesn't feel right to let her just
sit there and deny what has happened.
Maybe the room could have been arranged
differently, or someone else could have
been present to emphasize
the understanding of how serious this is.
- Yes, uh...
- Right.
Yeah.
- How's it going?
- Well, it...
It's not going too well.
No?
Well, it's difficult.
But we're making progress, I think.
Yeah.
- May I have a moment alone with Sunna?
- Absolutely.
But I must repeat what I said to her.
I hope the school takes this seriously.
Yes, naturally.
Hey, it'll be okay. They do disagree.
Elisabeth struggles to grasp what's
happened, but that's understandable.
She's sensitive. Sarah and Anders
are less forthcoming...
- Hush!
- They need to talk, listen to each other.
We'll get there.
I'm certain I can handle this.
The situation will escalate if you
come in now. Of course there's tension.
But I've got it covered.
I think we should join you now.
Okay.
Hi.
More people, huh?
- The chairs have been moved. Why?
- So we could sit a bit closer.
- Good idea.
- Please sit down, Elisabeth.
Yes, I'll sit down now.
There.
Now we're present. All of us.
I must first apologise on behalf
of the school that Ajsa and I
haven't been present from the start.
Sunna is one of our best junior teachers,
and we have full confidence in her.
And we...
But now that we all are here,
all of us may contribute.
Yes? Agreed?
Let's see...
Okay, to the point.
The school has had to speak with Armand
a couple of times before due to
some reckless interaction with
other pupils.
But nothing has been serious enough
to make an issue of.
Maybe we should have seen
this coming in hindsight.
But these incidents were not this serious.
But is...? I don't understand.
Is this allegation built
on earlier events?
No, this allegation, or incident, is built
on what I hope Sunna has told you.
- Yes, I've told them all I know.
- I thought it would be best to tell you.
There's been some uncertainty
about whether it was Armand.
I think the facts point to this.
Because Armand has been reckless
with other pupils? I don't get it.
Of course that has nothing
to do with this incident.
No, this is self-criticism on our part.
We should have addressed Armand earlier.
Okay, so...
He's done lots of stuff
you haven't told me about?
Not a lot, but some things.
Hence the self-criticism.
I mean, it's no secret that for example
Jon has felt uncomfortable
around Armand sometimes.
- That's new to me.
- It's not.
Okay. Okay.
So every time Jon has come home to us,
every time
you've had to work late,
and I've let Jon come home to us,
made him dinner,
helped him with his homework,
he's been sent into an intolerable hell?
I mean...
You can say a lot about me as a mother,
but they send their child into fear.
- You don't have to be so dramatic.
- He's an active and sociable boy.
And yes, he's excitable,
like any child that age.
What's wrong with playing doctor?
Well, in our opinion, playing doctor
belongs in kindergarten.
- Okay, maybe.
- And Jon and Armand often play together
without any problems.
And that's a good thing.
- Thank you, Sunna.
- There have been situations with him.
"Situations"? You keep changing the story.
It's a disgrace that I haven't
been told before.
Why are we only listening to them?
Jon has come home to us maybe
forty times the past six months.
Something doesn't sound right.
It feels like
you've judged both Armand
and me in advance.
And I... I honestly don't understand
what we're doing here.
Going on like this?
With young children involved?
He's just a little boy!
This is...
Oh dear.
- Wow. Are you okay?
- Yeah.
It will be over in a moment.
I have some tissue in my pocket.
We hear what you're saying, Elisabeth.
Let me see...
- I mean, please go on.
- But...
Oops. Dammit. I'm sorry.
Go on. It'll stop soon.
Please just continue.
- There. It's over.
- Right.
So we wish to present a plan of action
that'll accommodate everyone's interests.
Ajsa, could you just...
Because this is about two children
the same age,
it's also about prevention
so that it doesn't happen again.
The aim of this meeting is to start
a dialogue, as we are doing now.
But we must also remember
that this is serious.
If this information proves to be right,
then we will have to implement
certain measures.
But these situations are difficult
when the children are young,
and the events are difficult to prove.
Oh, excuse me.
I think...
I'm afraid I must go to the bathroom.
- Do you need help?
- No, please go on.
- I think you need to be here.
- I know, but...
You can see that's difficult now.
I mean, Elisabeth is an actor.
It's more or less her job to make
herself interesting.
Make her life into a story.
Create drama around herself.
Do anything to attract attention.
I just need to say...
Jarle knows what you're saying.
Right?
There's been some publicity around her.
I just have to say you mustn't be naive.
And remember her history.
I'm sure you understand, Sarah, that I can
only comment on the current situation.
Armand repeatedly showed his penis to
the other children in kindergarten.
I'm sorry.
I need to use the bathroom.
I hope we may continue when I return.
Yeah.
I have to apologise about Ajsa.
I'm afraid it's beyond my control.
Yeah.
- This is hard.
- Yeah, it's hard.
Obviously.
It's a pity about Sarah and Elisabeth.
They used to be such great friends.
Yes, but I thought they
still got along quite well.
After what happened to Thomas?
- It was... a tragic accident.
- Anyway...
Everything fell apart.
Sarah has good intentions. She wants to
help Elisabeth, and not least Armand.
After all, he's her nephew.
Mine as well.
But Armand's probably
been raised unconventionally.
Or he's acting something out.
I don't know.
- That's not for me to speculate about.
- No, it's not speculation, just...
- We're all different, right?
- You don't say?
It was hard for Elisabeth afterwards.
Being alone and... You know?
The way her career suddenly ended.
I'm not sure this wavering and uncertainty
is helpful when you're that vulnerable.
- Like I said, it's not my call.
- No. But it seems reasonable.
Irrespective of that, my main concern...
is that it doesn't happen again.
That we don't have a strong boy
who forces himself upon others.
I got it.
Okay.
Fine.
What a fuck-face.
- I didn't mean to disturb you.
- No, I'm just trying to cool down.
It's very refreshing.
- Hey, we should get back.
- Yeah.
My god, it's so hot.
I remember reading a book
at school many years ago.
One character had nosebleed
caused by leukaemia.
- Leukaemia?!
- Jeez, not that you have it.
It was a pretty lousy book.
But maybe you should check
that everything's okay.
- Sure.
- What do you think happened?
How should I know?
A little nosebleed sometimes is normal.
- No, I mean... Do you think Armand did it?
- All that? I honestly don't know.
The way Elisabeth is handling it
is actually quite impressive.
The timing of this has been
outside our control.
It's overshadowed the end-of-term
celebration for the children.
But that said, we believe it is important
to take this situation seriously.
We take pride in promoting health,
enjoyment and learning at this school,
and creating a safe environment
for all the children.
As we said, we wish to implement measures
to ensure this does not happen again.
Fortunately we have procedures for this.
- Ajsa?
- Right.
We do not wish to put the blame
on Armand.
When these things happen, it's usually
an expression of something else.
It might be stress,
it might be anxiety or anger.
So what we wish to do involves both boys.
Later we wish to speak to each of you
and suggest some individual measures.
In general,
I would like to say it may be wise
to review what sort of routines
one has at home,
and how to be better at not involving
the children in issues between adults.
- Right. Sorry.
- But now and in the immediate future,
we believe it would be wise
to keep Jon and Armand separate.
We already have an assistant
in class for this, someone who may
keep an eye on them, follow them
to the toilet, changing room etc.
Sorry. I'm sorry.
Sorry.
Right, there may be many reasons
why children act out something.
We will absolutely not...
If you could restrain yourself until
we're done, then everyone can go home.
- Sure.
- Good.
But it might be an idea to ask the class
what to do instead of fighting.
This is actually not very funny.
- That sounds good.
- The question is whether it's enough.
And what time frame do you imagine?
Sorry.
- She's doing it again.
- Stop it.
- Are you okay, Elisabeth?
- Yeah. I'm okay.
I'm okay. I'm okay.
Please stop it, Elisabeth.
Stop it.
That's enough.
Okay, Sarah. Should we talk
about Jon first, before we...
But these... These are...
These are... These...
These...
These are just...
These are
general measures.
I'd like to know what
the individual measures are.
Okay, Elisabeth...
Stop it, Elisabeth. Stop it!
Stop.
Right.
Elisabeth, this isn't funny.
Don't look at me.
Don't look at me!
- This really isn't funny.
- No, but...
But then we...
Then we have to go through...
Then we have to go through the list.
We have to get through the list...
of the measures.
- How many individual...
- Sure.
How many individual measures are there?
What must I do?
I can give you a list.
- Hey...
- Don't!
Right.
Maybe we should wrap this up now.
Again.
Again.
Again?
- She's doing it again.
- What?
That stuff.
It's not on purpose.
Yes, it is.
Sunna?
Hi.
Are you okay?
Yeah, we're just having a meeting.
- Now?
- Yeah, or...
We've been at it for a while.
Jarle and Ajsa are also present.
Okay?
What's up?
Well, nothing.
Just been a long day.
Okay.
I regret this whole
end-of-term celebration.
It's supposed to be casual,
but some parents are offended
because I showed "Frozen" in class,
which has a PG-rating.
It's Armand again.
The meeting now, and...
Elisabeth...
Just lost it.
Hello?
I'm just a bit upset.
It's not a big thing.
I just needed to hear your voice.
Okay.
Are you okay?
Yeah.
Just fine.
- Are you okay?
- Yeah.
Good.
- Hi!
- Are you here?
Yes, hi.
- How is Armand?
- He's fine.
Hi!
- Wednesdays. You're next.
- Okay.
Is that true? How wonderful!
May I ask you a question?
But don't tell anyone.
Sure. What is it?
- Promise?
- Sure.
I'm scared.
I'm so afraid that Armand has seen things.
Seen what?
One time...
When Thomas...
You know?
He was so angry.
I think Armand was awake.
I saw him in the doorway.
Thomas kept on beating me.
Is that what happened?
No.
Or yes. Something along those lines.
Did he do it?
Stick his penis into Jon's ass?
No, | don't think so. But...
Jon's pants were off,
so what do I know?
Faizal, hey. This...
This... Hey, this came out wrong.
We don't know how serious
or harmless this is, okay?
Some say that it's serious,
others say it's not.
Then there's the language used.
"Anal", for example. I mean...
A child wouldn't use language like that,
words like that, you know?
So that's surely not what happened.
Or pretty surely, anyway.
The other parents are coming.
I was just getting these sheets.
I need a moment to prepare.
Uh, Faizal? Don't say anything.
This must stay between us.
I just needed someone to talk to.
I was frustrated, and I exaggerated.
Maybe Armand should be somewhere
where they can handle things like this.
I mean, it sounds disturbed.
Don't say anything.
Fuck... Fuck!
Oh, goddammit!
Well, well.
At least they've fixed the fire alarm.
Well, it's been a long day.
Maybe we should wrap it up?
You were just a little girl.
I think you'd just moved here.
And there's Thomas.
And there's me.
He was a good boy, Thomas.
They had a horrible relationship.
- Who?
- Thomas and Elisabeth.
Well, living together can be tough.
You can see that she's not easy.
Nothing is ever her fault.
I suppose she has challenges.
"Challenges"?
Do you call that challenges?
I don't know any longer.
We have to be tolerant of everything now.
Yeah, we can't say or do anything. Right?
There's a difference between tolerance
and irresponsibility.
- Agreed?
- Yeah, sure. Sure. But...
Elisabeth was away all the time.
Travelling. Partying.
Met all sorts of misfits.
Took them home.
Wasted her money.
Should you tolerate that?
Who knows what went on there back then.
Thomas was there. For the family.
For Armand. So were we, of course.
But then Thomas stopped thinking
about himself, about his own needs.
And then...
The outcome was probably inevitable.
He was completely exhausted.
An accident? As if.
- What are you saying?
- Elisabeth lies constantly. Can't help it.
But we can't let Armand suffer
the same fate as my brother.
What'll happen to Armand if everyone goes
on ignoring what's happening around him?
It'll be bad for everyone
if this gets out.
And I'm not saying I want it to have
unfair consequences for...
Elisabeth. I feel for her.
It was I, or rather we, who wanted
to give her a chance.
Wanted dialogue.
But her behaviour...
What more do you need to see?
Ajsa... Sunna...
Ajsa...
"Where are"
you?"
What are Sarah
and the others talking about?
Sarah, Elisabeth and...
What are they talking about?
Uh...
Well, they're having a meeting right now.
Because something's happened
with the boys, Jon and Armand.
Oh.
So, but...
What is it?
- What's happened?
- Yeah. Is it serious?
Uh...
- It wasn't an accident.
- What wasn't?
Thomas. It was no accident.
It was suicide.
I should have seen it.
Why didn't I see it? I saw nothing.
Poor Armand.
But what does that have to do
with this issue?
We have to be rational, Sunna.
So we have to consider
the circumstantial evidence.
Maybe it's a cry for help from Armand?
We have to act before this escalates.
- Oh, it's you.
- Are you okay?
Yeah.
Sorry for crying. How awkward.
These are speculations.
It's not for us to speculate.
Don't be so naive, Sunna.
I know you admire Elisabeth,
but this is about child welfare.
I don't admire Elisabeth.
As for the child welfare service...
We don't know the facts.
Ajsa is right.
We may have to involve the police.
We can't just postpone the problem.
Why are you looking at me like that?
Sunna?
Uh...
What do you think about this?
I have a feeling that...
I...
You can just say it. I mean...
It's okay in any case.
I...
I believe you.
I'm sorry.
Why do you apologise?
We have to get back.
I'll see you in there, Elisabeth.
Wait. Don't go in there.
- I have to get our stuff.
- We... We're not going home yet.
- They have to talk to Elisabeth.
- To Elisabeth? Why?
Is she alone with them?
- Hasn't it gone too far, Sarah?
- Not here.
What do you mean by "gone too far"?
This is important.
Think about Jon.
She's in a bad state.
So you're thinking about her?
- No.
- Have you talked to her?
I just don't see why
we need to push this further.
Push what further?
I'm doing this to help Jon.
I'm trying to help Armand too.
Yeah.
Now they're going to
discuss this together.
Elisabeth will get all the help she needs.
Armand and Jon will get help.
This is good. It's as it should be.
I don't know why you think about her.
- Maybe we should give her a break?
- This is about Jon.
But you're thinking about her.
Hey?
What?
This...
What?
Tell me what it is.
What are you doing?
What does that mean?
It's what Jon did when
I asked what had happened.
Okay?
- And that was all.
- Huh?
That was all he did.
What are you talking about?
It's not true.
But that's not what you told me,
not at all what Jon told me.
You described what had happened!
- You repeated everything Jon said!
- know what I said.
- I panicked.
- Hey?
Jon said very little to me.
But Jon was very clear
when he spoke to me.
Armand hit Jon.
And this means the other thing.
But how did you put the question to Jon?
Did you ask him about what I'd told you?
Or did he say it himself,
in his own words?
That's irrelevant.
I need to be completely honest with you,
Elisabeth.
We must take Jon's experience seriously.
What actually happened is less important.
What happened doesn't matter?
It's not the key issue.
What Jarle is trying to say,
is that whatever a child does
is an expression of something.
Even when they're lying,
they're trying to tell us something.
In theory, this incident would require
that we alerted
the child welfare service and the police.
We don't wish to involve...
We certainly don't wish to
involve the police, but...
Now we basically have a legal obligation
to relate to this.
Dear Elisabeth, how can we help you?
Well, uh...
I'm not really sure what this is.
I didn't realise it was...
It was this dire, that...
I had no idea. The police,
child welfare service. Is it...
I mean, it's just a game
that got out of hand.
Sure, but if there are issues at home...
I mean, Armand...
It must have been hard for him
to lose his father, you and Armand...
I can't even start to imagine. There's no
reason to suspect anyone for that matter.
It's not our job to investigate.
And our goal has been
to solve this together.
And maybe it was the wrong approach.
And maybe not.
But I need you to realise
the gravity of the situation.
What do you want me to say?
I've worked really hard to make things
as good as possible
for me and Armand.
We understand that.
You shouldn't blame yourself here.
But accepting help has never hurt anyone.
But I don't understand.
I don't understand
why the child welfare service
needs to be involved.
Because we're fine. Armand and I are fine.
Yes, but it's no wonder things have
been tough. Everyone will understand.
Yes, you keep repeating that Armand
has had a tough time.
You talk about Thomas.
I don't know what you mean.
Because we're doing fine.
Armand's doing fine.
So what do you mean?
He means nothing.
- What do you mean?
- It's obvious.
Oh? Is it?
All I mean is that when you lose someone,
lose your father, it's tough.
- Not for us.
- Elisabeth...
- Thomas... I knew Thomas.
- No, you didn't.
I was his teacher and everything.
I was devastated when it happened.
It was overwhelming.
I've thought so much about you,
about Armand, about the entire family.
About how he died.
That...
That Thomas was in so much pain.
That it was so hard for both of you.
I didn't know.
I'm sorry.
But we know very little about the case.
Faizal has hardly told us anything. It...
It might just be something Jon or Sarah
have dreamt up. Who knows?
Sure, but would you have let David
play with Armand later today?
- That's not what it's about.
- That's exactly what it's about.
It's about our children, their school.
This is a six-year-old child,
and you're judging him.
Yeah, we should be cautious...
Do you hear what you're saying?
You're judging us when you say
that we've judged him.
You're saying all of us have
judged Armand.
I'm taking precautions.
And you won't answer my question.
Would you let David play with Armand?
But this isn't about David.
- Not this time.
- Fine.
I actually don't think
that Armand goes around
poking his penis into everyone.
Jeez, this is...
You have to remember that Armand
has been acting out all his life.
It was about time we addressed it.
It was inevitable.
All actions have consequences.
Even if you've had a hard time.
Who hasn't?
He wasn't drunk driving. He never drank.
He'd driven there countless times.
- Suddenly he veers off the road.
- Does it matter?
Then why does she lie about it?
Couldn't she just tell the truth?
What do you call tormenting someone
into killing themself?
- Stop it.
- Desperate to make sure she's the victim.
It's all nonsense.
That's her repertoire.
The role of victim. Vulnerability.
Why am I the only one who sees it?
Huh?
When did she start confiding in you?
- What do you mean?
- Without a bruise on her body.
She'll tell you all sorts of
lies about Thomas.
- That make you horny?
- Oh yeah.
You're obsessed with her.
Yeah, yeah. Stop it.
Cut it out.
I'm just teasing you.
You know it, Anders. Right?
Shall we go now?
Come on, let's go.
The others can handle this.
How did Jon get the bruises on his body?
You know how.
Yeah.
- But that's not what you said.
- What do you mean?
You said something else when we spoke
to Sunna and Elisabeth.
You made it seem that Armand caused
the bruises on Jon's body.
He got them before
the episode with Armand.
Sure, but that's...
I mean, that was because...
- I mean, you know how he got them.
- No.
You know. You were there.
I don't know anything.
What are you getting at?
Why did you lie about it?
It was just a slip of the tongue.
I didn't think it was important.
Okay.
- How did Jon get those bruises?
- I'm not going to answer.
Tell me, is your whole god damn family
permeated with violence?
- Relax now!
- Don't tell me to relax.
What do you want to achieve?
What do you want?
What are we doing?
What is this?
Elisabeth?
Elisabeth?
Listen.
Dammit.
Hi.
Hi.
I'm sorry.
Or... I have to apologise
on behalf of the school.
Good.
You know...
If you look at us on the surface...
There's a lot of chaos.
If you dig deeper...
What you find isn't that good either.
But if you look at us just
the right amount.
Not too much.
Not too little.
You'll see we're alright.
Goodbye.
No, I'm not stressed.
I had to run. I'm going to...
Are you okay? I want you to be okay.
Hello? Armand?
There you are.
I love you.
Do you love me?
Armand?
- Hi.
- Hi.
- Shall we start?
- Now?
- I can't stand the noise here.
- Okay, I'll just...
A primary school with a broken fire alarm.
- I should send everyone home.
- It's not good.
Well, it's Armand again.
- Have you called Elisabeth?
- She didn't have time to talk.
I didn't want to tell her via text.
But I confirmed the time with a smiley.
- A smiley?
- Yes.
I didn't want her to worry.
She just answered "okay".
- Was that...?
- And Sarah and Anders?
I spoke to them yesterday. But I think
it's hard to verify what they told us.
The boys, they didn't
really say that much.
Well, I think we should just
see how it develops.
- Okay?
- If necessary, we'll step in and help you.
- I see. So I'll handle it on my own?
- There's no reason to inflate it.
Elisabeth is a public figure.
She's been through a lot.
- So I think we should tread carefully.
- For the boys' sake too.
Yes, of course.
- I'll try to stay sober and factual.
- Sober is good.
I think I've got it.
I just have one more question. What's
the procedure in these circumstances?
If it has happened.
Well, to put it this way, there's...
I mean, we do have procedures.
Right, Ajsa?
We have to agree on what has happened.
That's the first step.
It might be... It might be serious,
but it might also be completely innocent.
But... Oh dear. Dammit.
In general...
In general it's important to show
understanding for both parties.
Yes, I understand.
But isn't there a procedure?
Yes. Oh dear. Dripping everywhere.
- Maybe you should go and wipe it off?
- I think I have to. Excuse me.
Right, she...
- She's been bleeding a lot lately.
- Yeah.
Guess I'll have to make my own procedure.
Yeah.
And Sunna?
Be careful about the words you choose.
- Be diplomatic. Sober, like you said.
- Sure.
And Sunna...
You represent the school.
Keep your opinions to yourself.
- Yes, of course.
- One more thing.
- This is between us and those concerned.
- Of course.
And one more thing.
If this blows over, it blows over.
Yes.
This will work out just fine.
You've got a great presence.
Thank you.
Right, let's get out of this hothouse.
Hi.
Hi. Thank you for coming
at such short notice.
- What's happened?
- I'll tell you.
But let's wait for Jon's parents
to get here.
- Jon's parents? Why?
- Like I said on the phone...
You said nothing on the phone.
Is it so serious that Sarah and Anders...
I understand, but we must wait for them.
Have a seat in the meantime.
Take off your coat.
Sunna, you call a meeting.
Won't say what it's about.
I'll tell you everything soon, but now
we have to wait for Jon's parents.
I'm sorry, I realise you
must have many questions.
Please sit down in the meantime.
Take off your coat.
It's nothing serious.
Okay.
- Nothing serious?
- No.
No.
Very well.
- Would you like to take off your coat?
- Yeah.
Some weather today.
Hm? Yeah.
Right, that's probably them.
Are you the only one here?
Yes, we thought it would be
best initially.
Okay.
Hi. I'm sure it'll be okay, Sarah.
- Sorry. Hi, Elisabeth.
- Hi, Sarah.
- What's going on?
- Oops. Excuse me.
Sarah?
Let's just hear what Sunna has to say.
Right. First I'd like to thank you
for coming
at such short notice.
This was the only day available,
with summer vacation coming up.
I think we should start by
defining what our goal is.
Right.
I should probably mention that we've had
problems with our fire alarm lately.
It suddenly goes off in some rooms.
But they'll fix it as soon as possible.
- Shouldn't we go outside?
- No, it's just a glitch.
It'll be fixed by tomorrow.
Right, okay.
I hope that we in any case
may reach some sort of...
Agreement on the way forward,
and leave this room
with an open mind.
So... It started when our cleaner
found Jon
crying in the boys' room.
He was crying,
and had a small scratch on his face.
At first he didn't want to say
what had happened, except that
it was Armand who'd done it.
Jon has spoken to you two,
Sarah and Anders.
They came to us, and asked us
to treat this as a serious...
A deviation, a possible deviation.
I mean...
In their opinion, and of course
we take this seriously, a case
of sexual deviation.
It's known to happen among children.
But we think it's a good idea that we meet
and discuss this together.
I understand this may sound brutal, and we
should be careful about categorising it.
But the school views this
as disturbing behaviour.
This is why we have gathered
to talk about it.
Without going into detail...
What's actually happened?
Tell her.
Right.
"Armand and Jon were playing
in the school yard.
"Jon wanted to play with Petter.
This made Armand upset."
"He said he had something to show Jon
in the boys' room, but there"
"Armand didn't have anything
to show Jon."
"Jon said he'd rather play with Petter.
They'd agreed to play together.
"Jon tried to leave, but Armand,
who's stronger, wouldn't let him go."
"Jon cried for help. Armand pinned
him down, groped and hit him."
"He said that if Jon didn't keep quiet,
he'd take him"
"anally."
"Armand allegedly made Jon
look into his bodily openings."
"Then Armand left. An employee
found Jon crying in the boys' room"
"with a scratch in his face
and his pants off."
"This is how we became aware of"
"this incident."
Let me first say that this is
not easy to hear about.
And obviously I understand that
this can't have been
easy to hear from Jon.
But, and I have to say this,
I think the school should have
informed me before we met.
Then I could have had
a proper talk with Armand
and heard his side of the story,
so we could have had all the facts
clearly before us.
I cannot, in my wildest imagination,
understand
that he could have done
anything like this.
I mean, where could he even get the idea?
Well, I hear what you're saying,
and in my defence, or rather
on behalf of the school,
we thought it would be best to
present this face to face
with all involved
because it's such a serious,
or rather that... It's an incident,
a troubling incident.
I would say that it's quite serious.
Yes, but...
It's been difficult to verify.
So it's our wish to engage in dialogue
rather than accuse anyone of anything.
It was our suggestion that we could meet
and talk about it together.
- We thought it would be only fair.
- Right.
But...
I mean, is there nothing about this
that sounds a little strange to you?
Do we simply accept this as a fact, that
a six-year-old has assaulted a classmate?
Like, how did...
How did Jon tell you about this?
Which words did he use?
The way you tell it,
a six-year-old doesn't have
that vocabulary; "anal", "oral", "fuck"?
He barely knows the difference
between boys and girls.
"Fuck" is a word many six-year-olds know.
Listen, Jon came home.
He was afraid. He was nauseous.
- He had bruises all over his body...
- Bruises too?
That's new to me.
- Didn't you see them too, Anders?
- Yes.
I suppose there were, yes.
Right, I'm calling Armand.
Well, I think we have to give her
a moment.
There.
It wasn't Armand.
- Are you kidding?
- No.
Armand said he didn't do it. Jon's lying.
I don't think we should
accuse Jon of lying.
Why? Armand says Jon's lying.
You haven't talked to Armand.
They have, Elisabeth.
Listen, I'm very fond of Jon.
And he's a very kind,
curious
and inventive boy.
And yes...
Maybe he's a bit confused.
And you're absolutely certain
that it was Armand?
Yes. Honestly, Sunna.
Yes, we're certain. 100 % certain.
You know why? Because Jon's told us,
you and your colleague.
- And because you believe him.
- He'd never lie about this.
I think it's a disgrace that
the school doesn't take it seriously.
Armand isn't an easy child.
One more thing:
Jon says that when he visits you,
you walk about naked
and hug him all the time.
- What? Where did that come from?
- Let's try to stick to the facts here.
Our son has potentially been exposed
to trauma and injury...
But we don't know anything.
You're using a child's statements
to make unacceptable allegations.
We know nothing!
A child's testimony is enough
to imprison an adult for twenty years.
It's difficult to prove.
You keep presenting new allegations.
How can we relate to that?
It's nonsense. You talk about nudity.
- This is not getting us anywhere.
- Complete nonsense.
- Like I run around naked?
- I think we... Elisabeth?
I think we should take a short break now
to calm down. I must...
I must remind you that this is an issue we
need to resolve
for Armand's and Jon's sake,
for both of them.
Elisabeth?
I don't know.
Where are the others? The principal,
school nurse, inspector?
It's okay. Let's not blow this
out of proportion.
So...
Let's take five.
Sunna? Sunna, could you just...
Just wait a moment.
I must ask the school
to take this seriously.
But we do, Sarah. Really. I promise.
It doesn't seem as if Elisabeth
can absorb this.
I realise we need to be considerate to her
the way things are now.
But it doesn't feel right to let her just
sit there and deny what has happened.
Maybe the room could have been arranged
differently, or someone else could have
been present to emphasize
the understanding of how serious this is.
- Yes, uh...
- Right.
Yeah.
- How's it going?
- Well, it...
It's not going too well.
No?
Well, it's difficult.
But we're making progress, I think.
Yeah.
- May I have a moment alone with Sunna?
- Absolutely.
But I must repeat what I said to her.
I hope the school takes this seriously.
Yes, naturally.
Hey, it'll be okay. They do disagree.
Elisabeth struggles to grasp what's
happened, but that's understandable.
She's sensitive. Sarah and Anders
are less forthcoming...
- Hush!
- They need to talk, listen to each other.
We'll get there.
I'm certain I can handle this.
The situation will escalate if you
come in now. Of course there's tension.
But I've got it covered.
I think we should join you now.
Okay.
Hi.
More people, huh?
- The chairs have been moved. Why?
- So we could sit a bit closer.
- Good idea.
- Please sit down, Elisabeth.
Yes, I'll sit down now.
There.
Now we're present. All of us.
I must first apologise on behalf
of the school that Ajsa and I
haven't been present from the start.
Sunna is one of our best junior teachers,
and we have full confidence in her.
And we...
But now that we all are here,
all of us may contribute.
Yes? Agreed?
Let's see...
Okay, to the point.
The school has had to speak with Armand
a couple of times before due to
some reckless interaction with
other pupils.
But nothing has been serious enough
to make an issue of.
Maybe we should have seen
this coming in hindsight.
But these incidents were not this serious.
But is...? I don't understand.
Is this allegation built
on earlier events?
No, this allegation, or incident, is built
on what I hope Sunna has told you.
- Yes, I've told them all I know.
- I thought it would be best to tell you.
There's been some uncertainty
about whether it was Armand.
I think the facts point to this.
Because Armand has been reckless
with other pupils? I don't get it.
Of course that has nothing
to do with this incident.
No, this is self-criticism on our part.
We should have addressed Armand earlier.
Okay, so...
He's done lots of stuff
you haven't told me about?
Not a lot, but some things.
Hence the self-criticism.
I mean, it's no secret that for example
Jon has felt uncomfortable
around Armand sometimes.
- That's new to me.
- It's not.
Okay. Okay.
So every time Jon has come home to us,
every time
you've had to work late,
and I've let Jon come home to us,
made him dinner,
helped him with his homework,
he's been sent into an intolerable hell?
I mean...
You can say a lot about me as a mother,
but they send their child into fear.
- You don't have to be so dramatic.
- He's an active and sociable boy.
And yes, he's excitable,
like any child that age.
What's wrong with playing doctor?
Well, in our opinion, playing doctor
belongs in kindergarten.
- Okay, maybe.
- And Jon and Armand often play together
without any problems.
And that's a good thing.
- Thank you, Sunna.
- There have been situations with him.
"Situations"? You keep changing the story.
It's a disgrace that I haven't
been told before.
Why are we only listening to them?
Jon has come home to us maybe
forty times the past six months.
Something doesn't sound right.
It feels like
you've judged both Armand
and me in advance.
And I... I honestly don't understand
what we're doing here.
Going on like this?
With young children involved?
He's just a little boy!
This is...
Oh dear.
- Wow. Are you okay?
- Yeah.
It will be over in a moment.
I have some tissue in my pocket.
We hear what you're saying, Elisabeth.
Let me see...
- I mean, please go on.
- But...
Oops. Dammit. I'm sorry.
Go on. It'll stop soon.
Please just continue.
- There. It's over.
- Right.
So we wish to present a plan of action
that'll accommodate everyone's interests.
Ajsa, could you just...
Because this is about two children
the same age,
it's also about prevention
so that it doesn't happen again.
The aim of this meeting is to start
a dialogue, as we are doing now.
But we must also remember
that this is serious.
If this information proves to be right,
then we will have to implement
certain measures.
But these situations are difficult
when the children are young,
and the events are difficult to prove.
Oh, excuse me.
I think...
I'm afraid I must go to the bathroom.
- Do you need help?
- No, please go on.
- I think you need to be here.
- I know, but...
You can see that's difficult now.
I mean, Elisabeth is an actor.
It's more or less her job to make
herself interesting.
Make her life into a story.
Create drama around herself.
Do anything to attract attention.
I just need to say...
Jarle knows what you're saying.
Right?
There's been some publicity around her.
I just have to say you mustn't be naive.
And remember her history.
I'm sure you understand, Sarah, that I can
only comment on the current situation.
Armand repeatedly showed his penis to
the other children in kindergarten.
I'm sorry.
I need to use the bathroom.
I hope we may continue when I return.
Yeah.
I have to apologise about Ajsa.
I'm afraid it's beyond my control.
Yeah.
- This is hard.
- Yeah, it's hard.
Obviously.
It's a pity about Sarah and Elisabeth.
They used to be such great friends.
Yes, but I thought they
still got along quite well.
After what happened to Thomas?
- It was... a tragic accident.
- Anyway...
Everything fell apart.
Sarah has good intentions. She wants to
help Elisabeth, and not least Armand.
After all, he's her nephew.
Mine as well.
But Armand's probably
been raised unconventionally.
Or he's acting something out.
I don't know.
- That's not for me to speculate about.
- No, it's not speculation, just...
- We're all different, right?
- You don't say?
It was hard for Elisabeth afterwards.
Being alone and... You know?
The way her career suddenly ended.
I'm not sure this wavering and uncertainty
is helpful when you're that vulnerable.
- Like I said, it's not my call.
- No. But it seems reasonable.
Irrespective of that, my main concern...
is that it doesn't happen again.
That we don't have a strong boy
who forces himself upon others.
I got it.
Okay.
Fine.
What a fuck-face.
- I didn't mean to disturb you.
- No, I'm just trying to cool down.
It's very refreshing.
- Hey, we should get back.
- Yeah.
My god, it's so hot.
I remember reading a book
at school many years ago.
One character had nosebleed
caused by leukaemia.
- Leukaemia?!
- Jeez, not that you have it.
It was a pretty lousy book.
But maybe you should check
that everything's okay.
- Sure.
- What do you think happened?
How should I know?
A little nosebleed sometimes is normal.
- No, I mean... Do you think Armand did it?
- All that? I honestly don't know.
The way Elisabeth is handling it
is actually quite impressive.
The timing of this has been
outside our control.
It's overshadowed the end-of-term
celebration for the children.
But that said, we believe it is important
to take this situation seriously.
We take pride in promoting health,
enjoyment and learning at this school,
and creating a safe environment
for all the children.
As we said, we wish to implement measures
to ensure this does not happen again.
Fortunately we have procedures for this.
- Ajsa?
- Right.
We do not wish to put the blame
on Armand.
When these things happen, it's usually
an expression of something else.
It might be stress,
it might be anxiety or anger.
So what we wish to do involves both boys.
Later we wish to speak to each of you
and suggest some individual measures.
In general,
I would like to say it may be wise
to review what sort of routines
one has at home,
and how to be better at not involving
the children in issues between adults.
- Right. Sorry.
- But now and in the immediate future,
we believe it would be wise
to keep Jon and Armand separate.
We already have an assistant
in class for this, someone who may
keep an eye on them, follow them
to the toilet, changing room etc.
Sorry. I'm sorry.
Sorry.
Right, there may be many reasons
why children act out something.
We will absolutely not...
If you could restrain yourself until
we're done, then everyone can go home.
- Sure.
- Good.
But it might be an idea to ask the class
what to do instead of fighting.
This is actually not very funny.
- That sounds good.
- The question is whether it's enough.
And what time frame do you imagine?
Sorry.
- She's doing it again.
- Stop it.
- Are you okay, Elisabeth?
- Yeah. I'm okay.
I'm okay. I'm okay.
Please stop it, Elisabeth.
Stop it.
That's enough.
Okay, Sarah. Should we talk
about Jon first, before we...
But these... These are...
These are... These...
These...
These are just...
These are
general measures.
I'd like to know what
the individual measures are.
Okay, Elisabeth...
Stop it, Elisabeth. Stop it!
Stop.
Right.
Elisabeth, this isn't funny.
Don't look at me.
Don't look at me!
- This really isn't funny.
- No, but...
But then we...
Then we have to go through...
Then we have to go through the list.
We have to get through the list...
of the measures.
- How many individual...
- Sure.
How many individual measures are there?
What must I do?
I can give you a list.
- Hey...
- Don't!
Right.
Maybe we should wrap this up now.
Again.
Again.
Again?
- She's doing it again.
- What?
That stuff.
It's not on purpose.
Yes, it is.
Sunna?
Hi.
Are you okay?
Yeah, we're just having a meeting.
- Now?
- Yeah, or...
We've been at it for a while.
Jarle and Ajsa are also present.
Okay?
What's up?
Well, nothing.
Just been a long day.
Okay.
I regret this whole
end-of-term celebration.
It's supposed to be casual,
but some parents are offended
because I showed "Frozen" in class,
which has a PG-rating.
It's Armand again.
The meeting now, and...
Elisabeth...
Just lost it.
Hello?
I'm just a bit upset.
It's not a big thing.
I just needed to hear your voice.
Okay.
Are you okay?
Yeah.
Just fine.
- Are you okay?
- Yeah.
Good.
- Hi!
- Are you here?
Yes, hi.
- How is Armand?
- He's fine.
Hi!
- Wednesdays. You're next.
- Okay.
Is that true? How wonderful!
May I ask you a question?
But don't tell anyone.
Sure. What is it?
- Promise?
- Sure.
I'm scared.
I'm so afraid that Armand has seen things.
Seen what?
One time...
When Thomas...
You know?
He was so angry.
I think Armand was awake.
I saw him in the doorway.
Thomas kept on beating me.
Is that what happened?
No.
Or yes. Something along those lines.
Did he do it?
Stick his penis into Jon's ass?
No, | don't think so. But...
Jon's pants were off,
so what do I know?
Faizal, hey. This...
This... Hey, this came out wrong.
We don't know how serious
or harmless this is, okay?
Some say that it's serious,
others say it's not.
Then there's the language used.
"Anal", for example. I mean...
A child wouldn't use language like that,
words like that, you know?
So that's surely not what happened.
Or pretty surely, anyway.
The other parents are coming.
I was just getting these sheets.
I need a moment to prepare.
Uh, Faizal? Don't say anything.
This must stay between us.
I just needed someone to talk to.
I was frustrated, and I exaggerated.
Maybe Armand should be somewhere
where they can handle things like this.
I mean, it sounds disturbed.
Don't say anything.
Fuck... Fuck!
Oh, goddammit!
Well, well.
At least they've fixed the fire alarm.
Well, it's been a long day.
Maybe we should wrap it up?
You were just a little girl.
I think you'd just moved here.
And there's Thomas.
And there's me.
He was a good boy, Thomas.
They had a horrible relationship.
- Who?
- Thomas and Elisabeth.
Well, living together can be tough.
You can see that she's not easy.
Nothing is ever her fault.
I suppose she has challenges.
"Challenges"?
Do you call that challenges?
I don't know any longer.
We have to be tolerant of everything now.
Yeah, we can't say or do anything. Right?
There's a difference between tolerance
and irresponsibility.
- Agreed?
- Yeah, sure. Sure. But...
Elisabeth was away all the time.
Travelling. Partying.
Met all sorts of misfits.
Took them home.
Wasted her money.
Should you tolerate that?
Who knows what went on there back then.
Thomas was there. For the family.
For Armand. So were we, of course.
But then Thomas stopped thinking
about himself, about his own needs.
And then...
The outcome was probably inevitable.
He was completely exhausted.
An accident? As if.
- What are you saying?
- Elisabeth lies constantly. Can't help it.
But we can't let Armand suffer
the same fate as my brother.
What'll happen to Armand if everyone goes
on ignoring what's happening around him?
It'll be bad for everyone
if this gets out.
And I'm not saying I want it to have
unfair consequences for...
Elisabeth. I feel for her.
It was I, or rather we, who wanted
to give her a chance.
Wanted dialogue.
But her behaviour...
What more do you need to see?
Ajsa... Sunna...
Ajsa...
"Where are"
you?"
What are Sarah
and the others talking about?
Sarah, Elisabeth and...
What are they talking about?
Uh...
Well, they're having a meeting right now.
Because something's happened
with the boys, Jon and Armand.
Oh.
So, but...
What is it?
- What's happened?
- Yeah. Is it serious?
Uh...
- It wasn't an accident.
- What wasn't?
Thomas. It was no accident.
It was suicide.
I should have seen it.
Why didn't I see it? I saw nothing.
Poor Armand.
But what does that have to do
with this issue?
We have to be rational, Sunna.
So we have to consider
the circumstantial evidence.
Maybe it's a cry for help from Armand?
We have to act before this escalates.
- Oh, it's you.
- Are you okay?
Yeah.
Sorry for crying. How awkward.
These are speculations.
It's not for us to speculate.
Don't be so naive, Sunna.
I know you admire Elisabeth,
but this is about child welfare.
I don't admire Elisabeth.
As for the child welfare service...
We don't know the facts.
Ajsa is right.
We may have to involve the police.
We can't just postpone the problem.
Why are you looking at me like that?
Sunna?
Uh...
What do you think about this?
I have a feeling that...
I...
You can just say it. I mean...
It's okay in any case.
I...
I believe you.
I'm sorry.
Why do you apologise?
We have to get back.
I'll see you in there, Elisabeth.
Wait. Don't go in there.
- I have to get our stuff.
- We... We're not going home yet.
- They have to talk to Elisabeth.
- To Elisabeth? Why?
Is she alone with them?
- Hasn't it gone too far, Sarah?
- Not here.
What do you mean by "gone too far"?
This is important.
Think about Jon.
She's in a bad state.
So you're thinking about her?
- No.
- Have you talked to her?
I just don't see why
we need to push this further.
Push what further?
I'm doing this to help Jon.
I'm trying to help Armand too.
Yeah.
Now they're going to
discuss this together.
Elisabeth will get all the help she needs.
Armand and Jon will get help.
This is good. It's as it should be.
I don't know why you think about her.
- Maybe we should give her a break?
- This is about Jon.
But you're thinking about her.
Hey?
What?
This...
What?
Tell me what it is.
What are you doing?
What does that mean?
It's what Jon did when
I asked what had happened.
Okay?
- And that was all.
- Huh?
That was all he did.
What are you talking about?
It's not true.
But that's not what you told me,
not at all what Jon told me.
You described what had happened!
- You repeated everything Jon said!
- know what I said.
- I panicked.
- Hey?
Jon said very little to me.
But Jon was very clear
when he spoke to me.
Armand hit Jon.
And this means the other thing.
But how did you put the question to Jon?
Did you ask him about what I'd told you?
Or did he say it himself,
in his own words?
That's irrelevant.
I need to be completely honest with you,
Elisabeth.
We must take Jon's experience seriously.
What actually happened is less important.
What happened doesn't matter?
It's not the key issue.
What Jarle is trying to say,
is that whatever a child does
is an expression of something.
Even when they're lying,
they're trying to tell us something.
In theory, this incident would require
that we alerted
the child welfare service and the police.
We don't wish to involve...
We certainly don't wish to
involve the police, but...
Now we basically have a legal obligation
to relate to this.
Dear Elisabeth, how can we help you?
Well, uh...
I'm not really sure what this is.
I didn't realise it was...
It was this dire, that...
I had no idea. The police,
child welfare service. Is it...
I mean, it's just a game
that got out of hand.
Sure, but if there are issues at home...
I mean, Armand...
It must have been hard for him
to lose his father, you and Armand...
I can't even start to imagine. There's no
reason to suspect anyone for that matter.
It's not our job to investigate.
And our goal has been
to solve this together.
And maybe it was the wrong approach.
And maybe not.
But I need you to realise
the gravity of the situation.
What do you want me to say?
I've worked really hard to make things
as good as possible
for me and Armand.
We understand that.
You shouldn't blame yourself here.
But accepting help has never hurt anyone.
But I don't understand.
I don't understand
why the child welfare service
needs to be involved.
Because we're fine. Armand and I are fine.
Yes, but it's no wonder things have
been tough. Everyone will understand.
Yes, you keep repeating that Armand
has had a tough time.
You talk about Thomas.
I don't know what you mean.
Because we're doing fine.
Armand's doing fine.
So what do you mean?
He means nothing.
- What do you mean?
- It's obvious.
Oh? Is it?
All I mean is that when you lose someone,
lose your father, it's tough.
- Not for us.
- Elisabeth...
- Thomas... I knew Thomas.
- No, you didn't.
I was his teacher and everything.
I was devastated when it happened.
It was overwhelming.
I've thought so much about you,
about Armand, about the entire family.
About how he died.
That...
That Thomas was in so much pain.
That it was so hard for both of you.
I didn't know.
I'm sorry.
But we know very little about the case.
Faizal has hardly told us anything. It...
It might just be something Jon or Sarah
have dreamt up. Who knows?
Sure, but would you have let David
play with Armand later today?
- That's not what it's about.
- That's exactly what it's about.
It's about our children, their school.
This is a six-year-old child,
and you're judging him.
Yeah, we should be cautious...
Do you hear what you're saying?
You're judging us when you say
that we've judged him.
You're saying all of us have
judged Armand.
I'm taking precautions.
And you won't answer my question.
Would you let David play with Armand?
But this isn't about David.
- Not this time.
- Fine.
I actually don't think
that Armand goes around
poking his penis into everyone.
Jeez, this is...
You have to remember that Armand
has been acting out all his life.
It was about time we addressed it.
It was inevitable.
All actions have consequences.
Even if you've had a hard time.
Who hasn't?
He wasn't drunk driving. He never drank.
He'd driven there countless times.
- Suddenly he veers off the road.
- Does it matter?
Then why does she lie about it?
Couldn't she just tell the truth?
What do you call tormenting someone
into killing themself?
- Stop it.
- Desperate to make sure she's the victim.
It's all nonsense.
That's her repertoire.
The role of victim. Vulnerability.
Why am I the only one who sees it?
Huh?
When did she start confiding in you?
- What do you mean?
- Without a bruise on her body.
She'll tell you all sorts of
lies about Thomas.
- That make you horny?
- Oh yeah.
You're obsessed with her.
Yeah, yeah. Stop it.
Cut it out.
I'm just teasing you.
You know it, Anders. Right?
Shall we go now?
Come on, let's go.
The others can handle this.
How did Jon get the bruises on his body?
You know how.
Yeah.
- But that's not what you said.
- What do you mean?
You said something else when we spoke
to Sunna and Elisabeth.
You made it seem that Armand caused
the bruises on Jon's body.
He got them before
the episode with Armand.
Sure, but that's...
I mean, that was because...
- I mean, you know how he got them.
- No.
You know. You were there.
I don't know anything.
What are you getting at?
Why did you lie about it?
It was just a slip of the tongue.
I didn't think it was important.
Okay.
- How did Jon get those bruises?
- I'm not going to answer.
Tell me, is your whole god damn family
permeated with violence?
- Relax now!
- Don't tell me to relax.
What do you want to achieve?
What do you want?
What are we doing?
What is this?
Elisabeth?
Elisabeth?
Listen.
Dammit.
Hi.
Hi.
I'm sorry.
Or... I have to apologise
on behalf of the school.
Good.
You know...
If you look at us on the surface...
There's a lot of chaos.
If you dig deeper...
What you find isn't that good either.
But if you look at us just
the right amount.
Not too much.
Not too little.
You'll see we're alright.
Goodbye.