Triumph: Rock & Roll Machine (2021) Movie Script

1
(gentlemusic)
SebastianBach:
Allright,
hereitis,
thisisthesong.
This
fuckin'rules.
Thisis-
(guitarstringsstrumming)
Thisisbeautiful
tome,man.
(softguitarmusic)
("24HoursADay"
byTriumph)
I'lltellyou
sweetlynow
WhyIcan't
cometobed
I'mlistening
tothemusic
That'splaying
inmyhead
Okay,let'stalk
aboutTriumph.
(handclap)
Boom.
Bubbles:
Areyourolling?
Fuckin'roll'erup!
Triumphdocumentary.
Takeone,markit.
(handclap)
(guitarstringsstrumming)
John5:
Iwasobsessed,
youknow.
Ihadtosee
thisbandlive.
Iseemyselfupon
thestageandholding
SebastianBach:
Triumphweregods
inourtown.
John5:
Ikneweverysong
andIboughttheshirt.
Oh,that'smy
oldshirt,man.
IthinkIhadthe
coolestone,though.
Short-sleeved
sweatshirtswerecool.
It'slate
atnightand
Ican'tsleep
Igottawritesome
rockandroll
John5:
Iwaslike,
howaretheseguysnot
asbigasLedZeppelin?
(crowdcheering)
Announcer:
Pleasewelcomefrom
Toronto,Canada,
therock&rollmachine,
Triumph!
(crowdcheering)
GilMoore:
I'dliketoseesome
handsintheair!
Iwannaseesome
alliedforcesoutthere
makingalittle
bitofnoise,
youknowwhatI'm
talkingabout?
Liverock&rollshouldbe
bigandgreatandfantastic.
RikEmmett:
That'stheelement
ofrock&roll
thatkeepsadolescent
youthsogonzoaboutit.
Doyouwanna
rockandroll?!
MikeLevine:
Thatgatheringof14,000
peopleinahockeyrink
istheepitome
ofwhatwedo.
LawrenceGowan:
Theyhadsomanylights
itlookedlikeaused
carparkinglot.
BrianPosehn:
AlotofFlying-Vs
andfeatheredhair.
Bubbles:
RikEmmettwore
reallytightpants.
DankoJones:
Andthere'sLevinerockin'a
'stacheinahockeyjersey.
HowCanadian
canyouget?
Theseguysare
fromTorontoch:
andthey're
blowingshitup!
(hardrockmusic)
(explosionsbooming)
Announcer:
Triumph!Triumph!Triumph!
GilMoore:
Overkillhasalwaysbeen
oneofmyphilosophies.
(explosionsbooming)
(peoplecheering)
Fan:
Triumphisnumberone!
EddieTrunk:
AndIwasjust
like,whoa!
Thisjumpedoutof
theradioatme.
Layitontheline
SteveWozniak:
Triumphstoodoutalittle
bitspecialanddifferent
andputonagreatshow.
JohnRoberts:
Suddenlypeoplerealizedthis
Canadianmusicisdamngood
andweshouldbe
promotingittotheworld.
John5:
Theyjustkeptgoing
andgoingandgoing
andthenallofasudden,
that'sit.
NancyInch:
Thatdaychangedthelife
ofaTriumphfanforever.
Man:
Wenevergottosay
goodbyetothem
andtheynevergotto
saygoodbyetous.
PauletteBorkowski:
Andwmissingsomething.
(loudrockmusic)
GilMoore:
(shouting)
Triumphlovesyou!
(crowdcheering)
GilMoore:
Metalworksislike
Triumph'shome.
Wecamehereinthe
earlypartof'78.
Youknow,we'renowthe
oldeststudiointhecountry,
believeitornot,
yeah.
Hey,Marc.
Butitdoesn'tfeel
likecomingtowork.
Youknow,Icomehere
'causethisiswhereIhang.
("MagicPower"byTriumph)
GilMoore:
Thisisreallytheonlypieceof
Metalworksthat'sasitwas.
It'slikeanoldviolin
oranoldguitar.
Thecharacterofthis
roomwillneverchange,
it'llbehereuntilthe
building'storndown.
Youknow,obviouslyTriumph
wasthegenesisofit,
butthestudio
itselfhasbeen
partofalotof
recordingstories,
youknow,
overfortyyears.
Alltheartiststhat
havecomethroughhere
andthemusicthey've
madethat'sontheradio
orSpotifyorwherever,
itmakesitpart
ofhistory.
Self-admittedly,
I'mjustapackrat.
Thebandwouldbegoing
fromcitytocitytocity
andMikeandRik
wouldalwaysthink,
oh,theregoesGilpacking
aflightcasefullofstuff
totakebacktoToronto.
Justgoesonand
onandonandon.
Wecollectedan
unbelievableamount
ofhistorical
informationontheband.
Cassettes,pressclippings,
boxesandboxes.
NotforsaleTriumphalbum.
Mastertapes.
Apostcard.
Backstagepasses.
Pilesoffanmail.
Amobile.
Sothesewouldhang
inrecordstores.
ARock&RollMachineposter.
AnoriginalAttic
"MagicPower"vinyl.
Adub.
Junk.Sticker.
T-shirts.
Thisisamazing.
Whatthatis,
isanoriginalfirst
generationTriumphshirt.
Ithinkwesoldthemfor,
ifI'mnotmistaken,
itwasaboutsixbucks.
Yeah,trytobuyaBeyonce
shirtforsixbucks.
OhmyGod.
Idon'tthinkI'veheard
thisfor25yearsatleast.
Thiswasthevery
firstoneforTriumph.
Thiswentnumberone
inDryden,Ontario,
isn'tthatan
interestingfact?
Whogoesto
numberoneinDryden?
Itookyouinandtried
tomakeyoufeelathome
GilMoore:
Soundslikea
reallyyoungguy.
Sothat'sthefirstthing
thatgoesthroughmyhead.
Ineverliked
myownvoice
but,youknow,
thatguy'syoung,
that'sforsure.
Soundslikeakid.
(chuckles)
("Hobo"byTriumph)
GilMoore:
WhenIwasateenager,
Iwastryingto
getintobands
withmusicianswhowerefive,
sixyearsolderthanIwas,
andtheywerefarmore
skilledthanIwas,
soittookalotofnerve
justtokindof,youknow,
showupandtryto
getintheband.
ButeventuallyIfinally
passedanaudition
andIjoined
MondoPlusFour,
wentfromMondoPlusFour
toSherman&Peabody,
andSherman&Peabodymorphed
intoAbernathyShagnaster,
itwasallveryhardrock.
We'dcomeintoschools,
full-onMarshall
stacksonbothsides,
twoleadguitarplayers,
louderthan,youknow,
IronButterfly.
(rockmusic)
GilMoore:
Teachersgolikethisandgo,
youknow,
can'tyouplaysome
Beatlescovers?
Oragentssaid,
can'tyouguysget
matchingsuits
andthenwecan
bookyouinbars?
SoIfiguredouthow
tobecomeanagent
andgetanagent'slicence
andgetaggressiveabout
bookingmyownband.
Thatwaskindofthe
beginningofmethinking,
whentheindustry
tellsyousomething
andtheysaygoeast,
Igowest.
Andthatwaskindof
apivotalmoment.
(explosion)
(glassbreaking)
GilMoore:
Backthenitwas
experimentingwith
differenttypes
ofhomemadepyro,
buildingspeakers,
buyingamplifiers.
AndIboughtatruckto
movethestuffaround.
Onethingledtoanother
andthat'showImetMike.
(rockmusic)
(explosion)
(glassbreaking)
Okay,let'sgetthe
timelinechartout,
thewhiteboard.
Gilmayhaveawholedifferent
timelinethanIdo,so-
Man:
That'sokay.
Iamalwaysright,
heisalwayswrong.
(laughter)
(groovy60smusic)
MikeLevine:
Igrewupplayingpiano,
guitarandbass.
Andbytheearly70s,
Ihadbeeninlotsofbands
whichjustwentnowhere,
sobeingaprofessional
giggingmusician,
notonmydancecard.
(upbeatmusic)
MikeLevine:
SothenIstartedworking
atarecordlabel.
SoIlearnedalotabout
therecordbusiness
andIgottoknowpeople
thatmadethemusic
andpeoplethat
promotedthemusic,
thathadtoputthe
recordsintheirtrunk
andputhundreddollarbills
intothesleeves
andtheygavethemtoradio
guystogetitontheair.
Foryoungakidtobearound
theseprofessionalguys
thatmakehugerecords,
taughtmealotabout
howthepeopleatthetop
don'tstartatthetop,
theystartatthebottom,
andit'salifetimeofwork
uptothepointwhere
you'resuccessful.
(70srockmusic)
MikeLevine:
WhenImetGil,
hebookedbands
andhehadaband
andIhadaPAbusiness,
theequipment
wasinhisgarage
andatthatpointI
wasalsoquasi-co-managing
abandcalledMotherlode,
andIusedtorent
stuffoffGil.
Brokendownstuff
thatherentedme,
itdidn'twork
halfthetime
andI'dhavetotakeitback
andgetnewstuffoffhim.
Butwebecame
kindofbuddies
andIrealized
thathewassmart,
excepthehad
lousyPAgear.
EverythingIdidforya
alwaysturnedoutwrong
GilMoore:
Atthatpointinmyband,
themusicianskeptchanging
andIknewthatMikewas
areallygoodbassplayer.
SoIcalledMikeandIgo-
Canyoudomeafavour?
I'min-between
bassplayers,
myguyquit,
wouldyoufillin?
It'snotaseriousband,
wedon'tplay
originalmusic,
wejustplaysomecovers.
Youknowallthesongs,
youcanplaythem
inyoursleep.
Isaidno.Nextcall.
(phonerings)
It'sonlythreeweeks.
It'sreallylowstress
andwemakepretty
goodmoney.
Ineedhelp,
Ican'tfindanybody.
No,notinterested.
SoIgotallthis
soundequipment.
Sorry,Ican'thelpyou.
WegotMarshallstacks.
Blah,blah,blah.
Wegotlotsofjobs.
Wah,wah,wah.
I'vegotjobsandjobsandjobs.
Ican'ttakehimcallingme
andbadgeringme
aboutitanymore.
Jobsandjobsand
jobsandjobs.
Hebasically,
powerofpersuasion,
talkedmeintoit.
(rockguitarriff)
MikeLevine:
Well,the
moneywasokay.
Wewereplayingcover
songsinhighschools,
butitwasfun
andIrealizedhow
muchImissedit.
That'swhenGilandI
startedchattingabout
let'sdosomethingserious.
Whatifwetook
onemoreshot,
likereallydugin.
MikeLevine:
Thevisionwasto
createasuperstar,
arena-filling,
three-piecehardrockband.
GilMoore:
Butourpart-time
bandthatweplayin,
that'snotgonnabeit.
Plus,AtticRecords
hadwrittenusacheque,
wehadarecorddeal.
SamDunn:
Howdidyougetarecord
dealwithoutaband?
Ihavenofuckingidea.
Honestly,it'slike,
I'maprettygoodsalesman.
(upbeatrockmusic)
GilMoore:
MikeandIreallyhad
theeyeofthetiger
andwewentsearchingfor
this,youknow,godongui.
We'repicturing
likeaJimmyHendrix,
and,uh,that's
noteasytofind.
I'vebeensearching
sinceyoufirstleftme
Tryingtofind
someonenew
(dogbarks)
Marc:
Hello.
Howareya,man?
No,no,no,
that'sPico.
(dogbarks)
RikEmmett:
Allright,you'regonna
gouptoyourcart.
(softguitarmusic)

RikEmmett:
Intheearlyseventies,
Iwasstilllivingat
homewithmyparents
andmygirlfriendandIwad
tomoveoutandbetogethe.
Bythistime,
I'dbeeninbands
thathadplayed
straightmainstream-ish
kindsofmusic,
soIwasdisenchanted.
Plus,I-Ireally
wantedtobe
insomethingthatwas
playingprogressiverock.
(rockguitarmusic)
RikEmmett:
ActIII,andit
wasprogressive,
butwewereplaying
wayoverourheads.
Yesmedleys,
KingCrimson,
GentleGiant.
(hardrockmusic)
NeillDixon:
Becausewebooked
somanyclubs
andIwasoutlooking
atbandseverynight,
assoonasIcame
acrossActIII,
Iknewthatthiswasgoing
tobeahappeningband
andtheywere
buildingareputation
quitequickly
becauseofRik,
sotherewas
somenotoriety.
Ifyou'relooking
foraguitarplayer,
there'sonlyahandful
ofgreatguitarplayers
andhewasone
ofthebest.
(rockguitarriff)
RikEmmett:
GilandMike,
theyhadposters
alreadyprinted
andthewordwasout
alongthegrapevine
thattherewasthis
thingcalledTriumph
thatwastryingto
findguitarists.
Irememberplaying
thatHollywoodTavern
andthere'stwolanky,
skinnyguyswithlonghair.
Thoseguyslook
likemusicians.
Whyaretheyhere?
Levinejustlookedlike
somethingbiblical,
likereally,
reallylonghair
andthenthis
incrediblythickbeard.
AndGilwasa
tall,skinnyguy
andhewaswearingone
ofthosehatsofhis.
Heknewwewere
lookingathim
andhisplaying
wasphenomenal.
MikeLevine:
Visually,hewasawesome;
singing,hewasawesome.
RikEmmett:
Duringmyperformance
Ididaflyingkick
andmyshoecameoff.
GilMoore:
Andtheshoegoes
flyingacrossthestage,
miraculouslyhe
doesn'tmissabeat.
IlookatMike,
helooksat
meandwego,
that'shim.
MikeLevine:
He'stheguy.
He'salittleshortbut,
youknow,that'sokay.
I'mallright
RikEmmett:
AtsomepointIgot
calledovertotheirtable.
MikeLevine:
Wesatdownwith
Rikandhadachat.
RikEmmett:
Atacertainpoint,
MikeLevineslidan
AtticRecordscheque
formetolookatandsay,
we'relegit,
we'vegotarecorddeal,
there'sarecord
companycheque.
SoifIjointhisband
theabilitytomakerecords
isnotthatfaroff,
it'sastrongpossibility
'causetheyknowhow
tomakeithappen.
AndTriumphsaid,
whetherweworkornot,
we'llguaranteeyou
175bucksaweek.
Andso,that,withmy
girlfriend'searnings,
wecouldrenta
crappylittlehouse.
ActIIIwouldnot
havemadethatpossible,
therewasn'ta
consistent175aweek.
So,meetingthem,
Iwent,
maybethere'sa
strongermarriagehere
intermsofa
commonground
that'sgoingto
beapartnership.
(rockmusic)
(boathorntooting)
(acousticguitarmusic)
NancyInch:
MynameisNancyInch
andIama
Triumphjunkie.
Iamprobablyoneof
theirgreatestfans.
Andinmysparetime,
Iparticipatein
Facebookgroups
createdforTriumph
fansexclusively,
andwecelebrate
everythingTriumph,
videosandpictures
andconcertfootage
andstories,
andwelivevicariously
everydaythroughthepage.
IwrotealettertoGil
reallyjustlettinghimknow
thatthemagicpowerof
Triumphisaliveandwell
andthriving
andthatthey
arecelebrated.
Andwe'rehere,
we'resupportingyou,
wehaven'tgoneanywhere.
("MagicPower"
byTriumph)
GilMoore:
Fromtimetotime,
fanscomeinfromoutof
townandvisitMetalworks
anditfascinatesmehow
strongtheirfeelingsare
afteralltheseyears,
fortheband.
Fan:
Annapolis,Maryland.
Triumph'sMetalworksStudio.
It'sarock&rollstudio.
ThebandTriumph.
Thanks.
GilMoore:
Thisideaofafanevent
startedwithNancyInch,
whosaid,
wouldyouletagroupof
TriumphfanstourMetalworks?
Anditwassucha
heart-warmingkindofrequ.
Andwe'vealwaysfeltthis
hugedebttoourfans,
um,alwayswill,
andIwent,
ofcoursewe'lldoit!
We'rereallylucky
inthesensethat
wehaveabigliveevent
soundandlightingcompany
andaudiovisuals.
Sotodothekindof
eventwe'retalkingabout
it'salltherein
ourwarehouses.
Thisisagreatwarehouse
becauseit'sadouble
wideforstarters,
soalittlemoreelbowroom
andwe'llclearthe
wholefloorarea
anddreamsomethingup
thatwethinkwill
befunforthefans.
MikeandRikandI
havetalkedaboutit
andifwecanplay
acouplesongs,
absolutelywewanttotry
todothat,youknow,
toplayloudand
toplaystrong,
it'sanendurancecontest,
sothat'sthetoughpart.
MikeLevine:
Wehaven'tplayed
inalongtime,
mepersonally,
inaband.
Ididpractice
alittlebit
but,uh,we'llsee.
RikEmmett:
Ithinkit'll
benicefroma,
youknow,sortofclosing
achapterfortheband.
There'salotmore
historynowbehindit,
butit'sstillkindof
justasimilarprocess
wherewe'regoing
tobuildup
andthenjustplay
alittlegig.
Thisisaboutthethree
ofushavinganintegrity
forwhat'shappening.
And,youknow,
that'lltake
severalmorerehearsals
togetthethingtogel.
Well,I'vedonethe
wah-wahthing,right?
(guitarjamming)
(cymbalsringing)
(vocalization)
(guitarriffing)
GilMoore:
Backinthe70s
whenwegotRik
wewent,ohmygod,
we'vegotit,
likewe'vegottheexact
groupthatwedreamedof
butweknowit's
goingtobebigger
andmoreexciting
andmoredramatic
andwe'regoingtodothings
thatotherbandsdon'tdo.
So,yeah,
AliceCooper'scool,
KISSiscool,
andthepsychedelicbands
fromthesixtieswerecool,
andwe'regoingtotakecues
fromeveryoneoftheseeras
anddosomething
completelydifferent.
JohnRoberts:
Backinthosedays,
Iwasworking
forCHUMRadio
andallofthe
kidsinthe
neighbourhood
Iwasonly18
atthetime,
knewthatthere
wasarockband
thatwasliving
downthestreet
becausewewouldhearmusic
emanatingfromthebasement
everyonceinawhile.
Andtherewasalwaystrucks
thatwerecomingandgoing
andputtingthings
intothegarage
andtakingthem
outofthegarage.
Mostbandsweretravelling
aroundinminivansatthetime,
well,theyhadaminivan
foralittlewhile
butthentheybought
a10-tontruck
andtheyendedupwith
atractortrailer
thattheywouldrollup
tothesesmallvenues
inandaround
theTorontoarea
andtheywouldstartunloading
allofthisequipment.
(hornhonking)
RikEmmett:
Whenweplayedhighschools,
noonehadeverseenan
actthatdidwhatwedid
onthescale
thatwedid,
atthatlevel.
(rockmusic)
RikEmmett:
Itwaslike...
(truckhonks)
RikEmmett:
They'rebringinga
transporttrailertruck
intoourschoolparkinglot,
whatthehell?!
(rockmusic)
RikEmmett:
Wehadprincipals
thatgotmad
becausethetrucks
wreckedtheirgrass.
(loudrockmusic)
Yeah!
RikEmmett:
Andloadingthisgearin
andsettingupandteachers
andstudentsgoinglike,
ohmygod,
somethingamazing
isabouttohappen!
Don'ttakemy
lifeawayfromme
GilMoore:
Wehadadesire
tobetheatrical
andbe
somewhatoutrageous
butwehadnobudget,
orverylittle,
soMikeandRikwould
comeoutonstage
withsparklers
ontheirguitars.
Wehadthemirrorwheel,
whichwasthisrotating
discofbrokenmirrors
thatwe'dshine
aspotlighton.
Andwehadso
muchdryice
thattherewouldbethis
walloffogonthestage.
RikEmmett:
Andpeopleare
going,whoa,
theyhavedryiceina
highschool,youknow.
Andthey'reinacloud!
(loudrockmusic)
GilMoore:
Ican'tbelieveit.
ThisistheTriumphtorch.
Thiswasabeauty.
It'sbuilttolast.
Thisthingis
likeheavyduty.
OnedayIdecided
weneededatorch.
(laughter)
SoIdidwhatany
torchseekerwoulddo
andIlookedinthe
YellowPagesunder"torch".
AndIfoundacompany
calledRexo-Therm.
Idrovedown
toRexo-Therm,
aguycomesoutofthe
backandhecomesup,
canIhelpyou,sir?
Isaid,yes,sir,
I'dliketobuyatorch.
Whattypeoftorch
wouldyoulike?
Thebiggestone
youhave,sir.
Whatareyougoing
todowithit?
Ihavearockband
namedTriumph,
weneedatorch.
He'sgotthisthing,
hebringsitover,
andhegoes,
standback.
Gascomesinhere
throughahose.
Thisisagatevalve
thatcontrolshow
muchgasgoesin.
Thisisthemanifold.
Thisthingthatlooks
likeasparkplug
istheigniterswitch
thatfiresthisbaby.
Andthisiswherethe
gascomesoutandwoosh!
(laughter)
Hedoesthis,thenhegoes
overwith,uh,anigniter.
(boomingexplosion)
Thisflamegoes
likefourteenfeet.
AndIwent,
I'lltakeit.
(laughter)
(loudrockmusic)

Gowan:
Intheseventies,
therewasaclub
sceneinToronto
thatwassovibrant
andsovitaltothe
rockmusicthatweknow
that-thatarose
fromthatera,
andTriumphfalls
squarelyintothatperiod
andthat'swhenI
firstsawthem.
Rightoffthe
batInoticed
theyhadenoughgearto
playMapleLeafGardens.
Andalthoughthat
soundslike,
I'mnotmakinga
jokeaboutthat,
thatwasreallyimportant
becausetheyhaddeclared
themselvesabovethepack.
("RockyMountainWay"
byTriumph)
RikEmmett:
Canadiansloved
coverbands,
theyjustlovedthem,
soyoucouldn'tfind
andbuildanaudience
unlessyouplayedthegame
thattheaudiencewanted.
Sowewereplaying
ledZeppelin
andDeepPurple
andHendrix.
Andinourrehearsals
wehaddecided
thattheclosingnumber
oftheshowwouldbe
RockyMountainWay
becauseithadthat
bambam!
(guitarriff)
RikEmmett:
Bambam!
Gil'sthingwaslike,
youcouldhaveflash
potsonbothsides
andyoucouldeither
goboom,boom
oryoucould
goaboom,boom!
RockyMountainway
Isbetterthan
thewaywehad
Yeah,yeah,yeah

(softguitarmusic)
GilMoore:
Westartedin
theerawhere
gettinginthestudio
waslikegettingto
meettheWizardofOz,
itwassomethingyouhoped
wouldhappentoyousomeday,
andthetransitionhits
youlikeatonofbricks.
So,allthechutzpahandall
theenergyandthestageslides
andanticsthat
wewoulddolive,
weremeaningless
inthestudio.
That'swhenyouhavetolearn
howtobeabettermusician.
RikEmmett:
GilandIhad
writtenafewsongs
butwejust,wedidn't
haveenoughmaterial.
AndMikeand
Gilwouldsay,
well,wastheresomething
thatyouplayedinyourband
beforeyoujoined
usthat'sanoriginal?
Iwent,yeah,youknow,
"BlindingLightShow",maybe.
I'mtellingGil,
no,no,
you'regoingtohaveto
playafloortomroll,
it'sgottasound
likeatympani,
(imitatesdrumroll)
Youknow,like,and
Gil'sgoinglike,what?!
Thesearethedreaded
malletsofdeath.
(backgroundlaughter)
And,uh,everyRikEmmett's
songeverwritten
(backgroundlaughter)
requiresthesemalletsofdeath
tobeutilized,youknow,
inasortofawhoosh
kindathing,youknow.
That'swhywedid
welltogether,
Ihavethemallets,
hewritesthesongs.
Man:
Canweheara
sampleofthat?
(rollingcymbal)
RikEmmett:
Andthenthewind
literallyismegoing-
(blowsheavily)
Andthendoing
anothertrackof-
(softlyblows)
Andthenputtingthetracks
togetherandmakingthewind,
'causewedidn'thave
anythingtomakewind.
("BlindingLightShow"
byTriumph)
MikeLevine:
"BlindingLightShow"
isaverycoolsong.
It'sheavy,
it'slight,
andit'sgotallkindsof
differentchangesthroughit.
Itopenedthedoor
forusasaband
tostepout
wheneverwewanted.
Wecould,youknow,
haveanacousticguitarthing
anytimewewanted,
youknow.
Wecouldhavean
orchestralsoundingpiece
wheneverwewanted.
Itwasalittle
bitdifferent.
AndfromwhereIstand,
Ireachmyhand
Tocatchaloveblow
Buttheselfishstare
throughelectricair
Isablinding
lightshow
Bubbles:
IgotintoTriumph'causeIwas
playingtheguitarbackthen
andIwasintoRush.
Sameband.
What?
Sameband.
Bubbles:
RushandTriumph,
they'retwodifferentbands
withsixdifferentpeople.
Youcouldeasilyturn
theseguysintoRush,
noproblem,
withsomemakeup.
Soyouthink
that'sGeddyLee?
Andhe'sjustgluedon
abigfuckin'moustache.
Itjust,itcouldbe.
Youneversawthem
playtogether.
Neversawthemin
thesamebuilding,
Sameband.
(rockmusic)
Andwhilethecrowdkeeps
Callingout"Hoorah"
DankoJones:
There'selements
aboutTriumph,
thattrump
elementsofRush.
ButasaTriumph
fangrowingup,
Ihadtodealwith
likepeoplegoing,
whydoyoulikeTriumph?
Becausethey'reamazing
andthey'vegota
guitarherothatslays,
sofuckyou!
IlikeTriumph.
I'vechosenTriumph
aswellasRush.
It'snotaneither/orthing.
I'mnotonahometeam
oravisitingteam.
They'rebothfromToronto.
JohnRoberts:
Triumphunfairlyget
comparedtoRush
becauseRushcameout
alittlebitearlier
andRushgotsuccess
intheUnitedStates
alittlebitearlier.
Andthenthefactthat,
oh,herecomesanother
powertriofromCanada,
andinthesamewaythat
RushbrokeoutinCleveland,
whentheydelivereda
copyof"WorkingMan"
toalocalradiostation,
SanAntoniowasthe
kickoffforTriumph.
(hardrockmusic)
RadioDJ:
InSanAntonio,Texas,
thisisKISS,
K-I-S-SFMat99.5.
MikeLevine:
Therewasthis
radiostation,
KISSFM,
andtherewastwo
hardrockfreaks,
JoeAnthony
andLouRoney,
andtheystartedplaying
"BlindingLightShow".
Thephoneslitupand
kindofbecameahit
anditspreadfrom
SanAntoniointoAustin,
intoCorpusChristi
andtothoseareas.
Andthenonedaywe
getthephonecall.
(phonerings)
Willyouguyscomedown
andheadlineaconcert?
(hardrockmusic)
GilMoore:
SammyHagar'sheadlining
withTheRunaways
andYesterday&Today
onthebill,
attheMunicipalAuditorium
inSanAntonio,
whichisa5,500seater,
sonotasmall
venueatall.
Sammybailsout
ontheshow.
Andsothe
propositiontousis,
canyoutake
SammyHagar'splace?
Andwerealizedthat
wedon'treallyknow
whatwe'redoing,right?
(stammers)We'recapable
ofplayinghighschools
andbarsatthispoint
andherewegeta
shotatthebigtime.
We'vebeenfiveyears
workinginarockandrollband
Blastingheavymetal
outacrosstheland
MikeLevine:
Whenwecameonstage
theaudiencewent
absolutelyapeshit.
GilMoore:
Theywerejustout
oftheirchairs
andstandingup
thewholetime.
MikeandRikandIkindof
lookedateachotherlike,
thisisreallyhappening!
MikeLevine:
Sotheconfidencelevel,
themeterwent,errp,
youknow,justlike
deepinthered.
RikEmmett:
Howdotheyknow
thesesongs?
Youknow,thealbum
hasn'tbeenoutthatlong.
Well,theymustbe
gettingsomuchrotation,
somuchairplayexposure,
thattheyknow
thesesongs.
(hardrockmusic)
What'sanotherday
ofrockandroll
GilMoore:
RecordWeek,
whichwasthetrade
magatthetime,
theyputusonthefront
coverthenextweek
withamapofTexas,
acirclearound
SanAntonio
andAustinand
CorpusChristi,
sothatrecognition
kindofwent
acrossthewholemusic
industryinCanada.
It'sagreatmoment.
MichaelCohl:
Thelateseventieswas
theearlyrenaissance,
greatesttime
forrockmusic,
whetheritwaswithin
Canadaorinternationally.
SowheneveraCanadiangroup
startedgettingabuzz,
mostofthem
youwent,meh,
notverygood,
notverygood,
oh,prettygood.
Andthentherewas
abuzzonTriumph.
GilMoore:
MichaelCohlnowthinks
wecanplayMasseyHall,
sowe'regoingto
playarealconcert
inarealhistoricvenue.
Thisislikeadream.
So,weputour
ticketsonsale,
therewasareally
strongresponse,
soldtwothirds
ofthetickets.
Twenty-fourhourslater
thefiremarshallsays,
noTriumph,
MasseyHallisatinderbox
andthoselunaticsaregoing
toburnittotheground.
"Triumph'ssmokebombs
toohotforMasseyHall".
"Triumph,thelocal
heavyrocktrio,
"wasforcedtocancelits
MasseyHalldebuttonight
"whenthehall'smanagement
discoveredtheband
"wasplanningtousesmoke
bombsasspecialeffects."
Afterwefoundout
thattheyweren'tgoingto
goalongwithour-ourpyro,
andlet'sfaceit,
pyroismandatory,
sowewent,okay,
that'sadealbreaker.
AndIsaid,
well,ofcourse,
wejustgoto
thebigvenue,
that'sall,we'rejust
toobigforMasseyHall.
SowecallCPI,
getMichaelCohl
onthephone.
(phonerings)
GilMoore:
Andwesaidwewantto
playMapleLeafGardens.
Andhewent,
"Yououtofyourmind?
"Youhaven'teven
playedMasseyHallyet,
"youcan'tpossiblyplay
MapleLeafGardens,
"we'dlosea
zilliondollars."
Mostofthetime
youwouldplay
twoMasseyHallshows,
that'dbefiveandahalf
thousandpeople,
anddependingonhow
yourrecorddid,
youcouldjumptothe
Gardensanddo10,000.
GilMoore:
Thisbackandforthensued.
Wewenttrustus,
thebandisgoingto
somehowmagically
bringallthesefansin,
yougotnothing
toworryabout.
MichaelCohl:
Andtheywereverypushy.
Nowtheywerepushingat
aleveloftheywerehere
buttheywere
reallyonlyhere.
Ihadmoreconfidence
intheirbusinesssense
andtheirpushinessand
theiraggressiveness
helpingthemgetalong,
thanIwasaboutwhetherI
wassureabouttheirshow
ortheirmusic.
(hardrockmusic)
RikEmmett:
Youwalkoutonastage
inMapleLeafGardens
ConcertBowl
andyoulookout
andyou'regoing,
man,arewegoingto
beabletodothis?
Ihad,andthis
wasGil'sidea.
Ihadatransformer
insidemyguitarsothatIcould
runlike135feetofcable
withoutlosingany
guitarsignal.
(hardrockmusic)
(crowdcheering)
RikEmmett:
Andsofromthatstage,
wehadasetofstairs
andIwentdownand
outandintothecrowd
andthecrowdwentcrazy
andIhadsortofa
bodyguardwithme,youknow,
like,asI'mdoingthis,
youknow.
SowhenIcamebackto
thestageafterthat,Iwent,
wegotthis
oneinthebag.
(hardrockmusic)

(crowdcheers)
RileyO'Connor:
MasseyHalland
MapleLeafGardens
werethemilestones.
Ifyoucanplay
MapleLeafGardens,
youcanplayanywhere,
'causeitwas
thecentreof
theuniverse
asfarasthemusic
industryinCanada
wasconcerned.
(crowdcheers)
MikeLevine:
Maybesixrecordlabels
cameuptoseeus
andaftertheshow
they'realltalkingdeal
andhowmuchthey
lovedtheband
andwahwah
wahwahwah.
Fiveofthemget
upinthemorning
forthe-theearlyflight
backtoNewYork.
TheGlobeandMail,
whichisoutatfive
orsixinthemorning,
justslaughteredus.
Itwashorrible.
Okay,sohereweare.
Headline:"Triumph:
"allthetrimmingsbut...
thisdoesnotstartwell.
"Thisthreeman
Torontobasedrockcombo
"hasbeenhoveringin
ourperipheralvision
"likeawingedinsect.
"Let'shopeone
swattingisenough".
(laughs)Mygod,I
forgothowbadthiswas.
Soalloftheseguys
readthenewspaper
andtookapass
ontheband.
AndWarrenSchatzfrom
RCARecordssleptin
andhe'sreading
theTorontoSun,
whichgaveusa
glowingreview.
Sohe'sthinkingthathe
bettergetonthephone
andmakeadeal.
So,heendedup
makingadeal.
Announcer:
Triumph.Triumph.Triumph.
Experiencethekind
ofrockenergy
you'vebeenwaitingfor.
RikEmmett:
Wehadfilmfootage
fromthatconcert
andwewenton
thisCanadiantour
andwecuttogether
aTVcommercial.
Announcer:
Theirmissionisto
blowupthecountry.
(loudrockmusic)
(boomingexplosions)
Announcer:
Triumph.
RikEmmett:
Thiswasthemasterstroke.
Buytimeduring
StarTrekreruns,
afterthehighschool-
Thatwasmyidea.
Thatwasgenius.
Announcer:
Triumph,thethree-manrock
androllmachineiscoming.
(loudrockmusic)
GilMoore:
Wegottabethe
firstrockband
that'sgotits
ownTVcommercial
thatsellsthebig
theatricalperformance
becauseyoucouldsee
it'causeitwasvisual.
Announcer:
Rock&RollMachine,
anewperspective
inpower.
(explosionbooms)
Announcer:
AvailableonRCA
recordsandtapes.
(crowdcheers)
(gentlemusic)
Announcer:
August26th,1978,
thebiggestoutdoorrock
concerteverheldinCanada.
MosportParkracetrack,
whererevvingengines
werereplaced
bythehardpounding
beatofrockandroll.
ThisisCanadaJam!
(loudrockmusic)
JohnRoberts:
Everythingwas
comingtogether
attherighttime
forTriumph,
andthiswastheir
biggestgigtodate.
(drumbeats)
JohnRoberts:
Suddenly,Canadians
weresaying
thisisanactthatyou
needtopayattentionto.
GilMoore:
Wewereona
prettygoodroll
butthewhole
goalfromdayone
waswe'regoing
acrosstheborder.
Ifyouweregoingtomake,
youhadtomakeitinAmer.
Andwejustsawthatasthe
Goliaththatyouhadtoslay.
(crowdcheers)
(loudrockmusic)
SebastianBach:
IsawTriumphwhenI
wasabout10or11,
andhere'smymost
amazingmemoryof
thatshow:
GilMoorecomes
downoffthekit
andgrabsthemic
andgoes,what'sup,
we'regonnarockthis
fuckin'placedown!
Igo,thedrummer
isthefrontman!
Downinthe
UnitedStates,
ifanybodysaystome,
whatdotheycall
youupinCanada?
Whatnamedo
theylayonyou,
what'syourID,
whatdoyousign
onyourmoniker,
Itell'em,
(screaming)
everywhereweplay,
it'sonename,
'causeIknowthat
youpeoplegaveus,
therockandrollmachine!
(crowdcheers)
("Rock&RollMachine"
byTriumph)
Oohbaby,
you'recrazy
Ifyoutryto
stealtheshow
Getset,
getready
Timetowatch
theRocketgo!
SebastianBach:
Iwantedtobethat.
Triumphreally
createdarockstar.
("Rock&RollMachine
continues)
Afireballsteamer,
heavymetalscreamer
Playin'licks
hotterthanhell
(screaming)
RikEmmett:
Inordertocommunicate
tothepeopleatthe
backofthebuilding,
youhavetokindof
belargerthanlife,
youhavetobecomea
cartoonkindofcharacter
andtherewasalotmoreof
thatgoingoninsidetheb.
LikeLevine'shairwas
startingtogetdowntohere
andhewasmovingaroundlike
thelionintheWizardofOz,
youknow,making
facesatthecrowd.
Everybodywasstarting
tounderstand
theenergyof
howthisworked.
Youknow,we
belongedtothem,
theybelongedtous
'causewebelonged
tothissong.
Andifallthree
thingsare...
you'vegotacyclone
goingonhere,youknow.
(rockguitarriff)
(crowdcheers)
RockandRollMachine
Fasterthan
youeverseen
RockandRollMachine
Everybody'seyes's
justlookin'atyou
Yeah,ooh,ahh,ahh!
(drumroll)
Fuck!
("Rock&RollMachine"
continues)
RosieLevine:
OhmyGothespandex.
JeannetteEmmett:
Thatwasthe
whitespandex.
SunnyMoore:
Ohyeah,yeah,
Ilikethatone.
I'vegotacopyof
thatonedownstairs.
Thatisquiteaspandex.
JeannetteEmmett:
Yeah.Ooh,
isn'thecute?
Heis,heis.
Kindoffondofthis.
SunnyMoore:
Theworldtour.
ThoseIfoundin
atinboxathis
mother'shouse.
JeannetteEmmett:
Oh,that'scool,
alltheticketstubs.
RosieLevine:
Ithinkthefansaregoing
tobereallysurprised.
Ithinkforsome
ofthesefans,tt:
it'sgoingtojust
blowtheirminds,
especially
becausetheyare
goingtoplay
acoupleofsongs,
whichnobodyknowsabout.
SoIthinkthat
willjustbe,
thatwillbereally,
reallycool.
SunnyMoore:
Theyrehearsed
theotherday.
Gilplayeddrumsfor
threehoursstraight.
RosieLevine:
Well,Isawhim
playingthebass,
Iwaslike,wow,
thisisserious.
Oh,look,
thisisawesome.
JeannetteEmmett:
Youcanseethe
evolution,right?
Yeah.
Andyougo,okay,
we're-we'restartingto
becomethismegathing.
Thehair,it'sall
aboutthehair.
Well,no-
(inunison)That's
allaboutthehair.
(laughing)
Ohyeah,
hellohoney,hello.
GilMoore:
So,thisisgentwo
oftheTriumphsign,
whichwelostgenone,
itendedupinawarehouse
inLondon,England
withoneof
BlueOysterCult'sGodzillas,
probablythere'san
IronMaidenEddiethereaswell.
Yeah,we'llhaulherout,
dustheroff,
fireitupandenjoy.
(softupbeatmusic)
Man:
Youready?
MikePrimeau:
Whenthis
thingturnedon,
itwouldbakeyou.
Youknow,81
aircraftlanding
lightshittingya.
Brutalandbright.
Ihadforty-one
herealready
anditlookslikewegot
anothereightornine.
There'stheT,
there'syourR,
there'syourM.
Hopefullyitworks
andwedon'tfindany
issueslikethis.
We'vegottofindout
wherethiscamefrom.
We'lljusthave
tochaseitdown.
Butweshouldbe
abletogetitgoing,
wegotacouple
months,right?
(cowbellclanging)
Announcer:
Now"JustaGame",
thenew
Triumphalbum.
RikEmmett,
MikeLevine,
GilMoore.
Triumph's"JustaGame",
onRCArecords
andtapesnow.
(rockmusic)
GilMoore:
Everythingwas
goingnorth.
Ourphonelines
wereburningup
withthisoffer
andthatoffer,
andcanyoudothis
andgoonthisshow
andgoonthatshow,
andtheseguyswant
totalktoyou.
SoMikeandIwere
fendingoffthewolves
andtheindustrywas
kindofpoundingonus
becausewedidn't
havemanagers.
(loudrockmusic)
RikEmmett:
Gilisspendingmoreand
moretimeintheoffice
doingmanagericalstuff.
AndMikeknewhowhe
wasgoingtobeableto
leveragetherecordcompany
tospendmoremoney
onusthantheywere
spendingonotherbands.
MikeLevine:
Andwehadamotto,
ifthedoor's
openalittlebit,
alittlecrackinthedoor,
youdriveasemithroughit.
NoI'mtalking
aboutAmericangirls
TheygotwhatIneed,
Americangirls
RikEmmett:
Wemakearecorddeal
andthenthefirstthingMike
andGilarefiguringoutis,
howdowegetmore
moneyoutofthelabel?
GilMoore:
Wehadthiscrazyidea
thatwewouldfilmvideos,
youknow,andthiswas
beforetherewasMTV.
MikeLevine:
ButIconvincedRCA
togiveusacoupleof
hundredthousanddollars
sowecouldgo
toasoundstage
andfilmthebandlive
andmakefourvideos.
GilMoore:
Andtheyreally
kindoflitafire
everywherewe
wentinAmerica.
AndIwouldgo,
theseguysare
fuckinggeniuses.
("AmericanGirls"
byTriumph)

GilMoore:
Weallkindofhad
aroletoplay.
SoIthinkRiksaw
somebody'sgottoreally
concentrateonmusichere,
soheshouldered
thatresponsibility.
(softrockmusic)

RikEmmett:
Igrewuplisteningto
everythingfromDeepPurple
toCrosby,StillsandNash,
andI'dwritten
popsongsforTriumph
andGilandMikewould
bothgono,no,toowimpy.
ButwhenIpresented
"LayItOnTheLine",
theybothwent,
yeah,yeah,
no,thisis,
thisisgood.
(softguitarmusic)
MikeLevine:
Rikbecamebetter
asawriter
andproofwas
inthepudding
becausehewroteoneofthe
"evergreen"Triumphsongs:
"LayitontheLine".
(softguitarmusic)
Oh.
Wow,wheredidyoudigthis?
WheredidIputmyglasses?
(laughing)
Kids,he'sgot
toputonhis,
they'reprogressivelenses.
It'sthesameold
storyalloveragain
It'sthesameold
storyalloveragain.
Youturnaloverinto
justanotherfriend.
Iwanttoloveyou.
Iwanttomakeyoumine.
Won'tyoulay
itontheline?
Iwanttoloveyou.
Iwantto
makeyoumine
RikEmmett:
I'vewritten
twodrumholds.
Sothosearethose
(imitatesdrum)
I'mtiredof
playingfoolishgames
I'mtiredofallyour
liesmakin'meinsane
Idon'taskformuch,
truthwilldojustfine
Won'tyoulay
itontheline
Layitontheline
RikEmmett:
Asasongwriter,
Iwasstartingtorealize
it'snotjustaquestion
oftheearworm,
it'saquestionofwhere
theearwormgetsplaced,
soIwasnowfiguring
thisstuffout.
Okay,we'regoingto
makethesechorusescome
andIwouldbe
saying,okay,
we'regoingto
haveatriad
andthenwe'regoing
todoublethetriad.
Andthenwe'regoing
togotoanothertriad
andit'sgoingto
bealreadydoubled.
So,thosechoruses
layitontheline
don'twastemytime
Likeradioisgoing
togoforthat.
Layitontheline
Don'twastemytime
That'swhenalbumradio
reallyembracedTriumph.
Announcer:
Overayear
inthemaking,
eightnewsongs,
onegreatgroup:
Triumph.
Holdon
GilMoore:
"JustaGame"wentgold
intheUSin1979
andthatwasabig
dealbackthen.
Itmeantbiggervenues,
moreticketsales,
andalotmorefans.
Listentoyourheart
Holdon
Toyourdreams
MattHoffman:
Allright,I'mgoingto
takeyoudowntothe,uh,
thewallsofTriumph.
Alotofrearranging,
alotofnails.
Thisistheonlyroom
inthewholehouse
wherethere'sno
children'stoys.
Thisismy
sanctuary
andthisismycollection
ofTriumphstuff.
Itspansthewhole
careerofTriumph
andthesewallsherehavet
over200photosinthem,
ifyoucanbelievethat,
butIfiguredthiswasmylittle
wayofpayinghomagetothem.
(loudrockmusic)
MattHoffman:
Backintheeighties,
everytimeyou
turnedonMTV,
itwasTriumph,
andseeingthoseexplosions,
thoselights,
thedouble-neckguitar,
grabbedme
andthat'showIreally
discoveredTriumph.
Yesterday,Igotontothe
computertocheckmyemails
andIactuallyhadan
emailfromTriumph.
NowI'mlike,butI
hadtodouble-check.
I'mlikethiscan't
behappening.
SoI'mactuallyinvitedtogo
toMetalworksforafanfest.
Maybethere'sachance
they'llplayasongortwo,
Idon'tknow,that'safingers
crossedwishfulthinking
butheck,
Ican'twait.
This-thisdaycan't
happensoonenough.
BestemailIevergot.
(birdssquawk)
PauletteBorkowski:
I'mjustwaitingfor
themtoannouncethedates
'causeIalreadyhave
thehotelchosen,
closetoMetalworks,
sothatIcanbookthe
hotelthatweneed
andthenbook
ourflights,yeah.
I'mPauletteBorkowski
andmynumberonejobis
tobeasuperTriumphfan.
IfellinlovewithTriumph
whenIwas15yearsold
andit's35yearslater
andI'mstillin
lovewithTriumph.
WhenIgotmydriver's
licenceonmy16thbirthday
Iknewthattherewas
onlyonethingI'dwant
onmycarformy
licenceplate
andthatwasgoing
tobe"Triumph".
WhenIappliedfor
thelicenceplate,
itwastaken
andT-R-Y-U-M-P-H
wasnottaken.
Sothenextopportunity
togobackstage
Ihadallthreemembers
autographthem.
Triumphkicksass!
There'stimes
whenIthought,
isthisoverboard?
Youknow,somepeopleliketo
goouttodinnereverynight
oreveryothernight,
somepeoplelike
tobuyanewcar
everytwoorthreeyears,
Idrivea12-year-oldcarbut
IhaveaTriumphaddiction,
soit'skindof
whatIdo,yeah.
(softdreamymusic)
RikEmmett:
1981iswheneverything
wasreallysolid
andthesuccessof
"JustaGame"taughtme
timeisanimportantthing,
youcan'tbeworried
abouttheclock.
GilMoore:
Ifwehadour
ownplace
thatwasbeyond
arehearsalhall,
whereit
encompassedrecording,
wecould,youknow,
reallyworkharder
onthesongs.
MikeLevine:
SometimesGil'stheguy,
youknow,
youaskhimwhat
timeitis,
hetellsyouhow
tobuildawatch.
AndsoGilaskedhimself
whattimeitwas
andthendecidedto
buildarecordingstudio.
Wedecidedtobuild
acontrolroom,
thatwasthefirstthing.
Youknow,thenonethingled
toanotherandwe'relike,
wellnowwe've
takenitthisfar,
maybeweshould
justbuildastudio
togowiththe
controlroom,
anditjustgaveus
theabilitytorecord,
youknow,onawhim.
MikeLevine:
Okay,we'reready
toroll...
RikEmmett:
On"AlliedForces",
I'mfeelingmy
oatsasawriter
andI'mthinkingIcan
writealmostanything.
Iwanttotakethe
"JustaGame"album
andbringitinto,
youknow,1981
andwhatradio'sdoing
andourpost-Zep
kindsofinfluences.
("FightTheGoodFight"
byTriumph)

RikEmmett:
"FighttheGoodFight"
grewoutoftheband,
pre-production,
inthestudiotogether,
writingtogether,
comingupwith
partstogether,
takingourtime,
wewereinour
ownstudio.
(rhythmicrockmusic)
Daysgrowshorterand
thenightsaregettinglong
Feelslikewe're
runningoutoftime
RikEmmett:
IjustfeltlikeIhadfound
myhomeawayfromhome
andIwouldsitthereande
thehockeygameontheTV
andIwouldjustbedoing
overdubsallnightlong,
andIlovedit.
Don'tgetdiscouraged
Don'tbeafraid
Wecanmakeit
throughanotherday
GilMoore:
IdorememberRikspending
aninordinateamountoftime
inthestudio
and-andMiketoo.
Imean,Mikespenta
bajillionhoursinthere
mixingandrefiningstuff
andthatsortofthing.
MikeLevine:
We'vealwaysproduced
ourownrecords
andsomeofmybackgroundcomes
outofrecordproduction,
sothatbecomesmy
responsibilitywithinthegroup
whenwe'remakingarecord.
Weworkedwell
creativelytogether
andthosetwoguys
listenedtome
whentheyweresinging
anddoingoverdubs.
Asaproducer,
whenIhadmy
producer'shaton,
they-theyperformed
very,verywellforme.
Okay,areyouready,sir?
RikEmmett:
Okay!
MikeLevine:
Okay,onetime
fromthetop.
Let'sdothisin
onetake,okay?
RikEmmett:
Okay.IfI'vegotitinme,
I'llgetitoutofme.
Thebandfound
itstrueheart,
asamusical
entityinthatstudio.
("FighttheGoodFight"
byTriumph)
Fightthegood
fighteverymoment
EddieTrunk:
Iremembertheimpact
hearingAlliedForces
ontheradio.
Itwasavery
starkcontrast
towhatwas
partof,um,alotofrock
andmetalatthattime.
Showtheway
EddieTrunk:
Therewasavery
upliftingmessage,
averyunifyingmessage,
whichisimportanttofans,
especiallywhenyou're
discoveringmusic.
BrianPosehn:
ThiswastheonethatI
justrememberplayingover
andoverandover.
Tome,thisisthe-the
quintessentialrecord.
Theywroteacouple
ofbiganthems
andthosewerethe
songsthatreally
appealedtome,
Youknow,"Fight
theGoodFight",
whereyoucould,
you'dbealone
butyoucouldpicturebeing
inanarenafullofpeople,
just,youknow,
ithadthatsing-a-long
elementtoit
andapositive
messagetoo.
Asateenagerand
asarockfan,
youhavebandsthat
justdisappointyou,
youknowwhatImean?
And,andTriumph
neverdidthat.
Icantellyou
wheretostart
Takealook
insideyourheart
JoeyScoleri:
Triumphconnectedwith
onepersonatatime.
Everysongthat
theywrotefelt
verypersonal.
Andwhenyouwere
aTriumphfan
andyoumetanother
Triumphfan,
itcreatedthisbond
becauseyouheardthe
songontheradio,
theyheardthe
songontheradio
andyoubothfelt
thesameway.
RikEmmett:
Theteenagehighschool
experienceisonewhere
there'sanawfullotof
peoplethatfeellonely
andostracizedandfeel
liketheydon'tfitin.
Thereareanawfullotof
bandsthatweresaying
let'sgethammered,
let'sgetlaid,
youknow,
let'sdieyoung.
Andso,weweregoingto
beabandthatgiveskids
apositivesense
ofthemselves.
MikeLevine:
Ourlyricswere
upliftingandpositive
andalotoftimes
givingpeoplehope
andchanging
people'slives,
andthat'ssomethingthat,
youknow,
I'mforeverproudof.
Likewedidgetletters
abouthowpeopleweregonna
youknow,thisgirlwas
goingtocommitsuicide,
shecouldn'tliveanymore
andthensheputon"HoldOn"
anditchangedherlife.
Youknow,
thatkindofstuff,
likeyoucan't
buythat,right?
There'snopriceyou
caneverputonthat
exceptfeeling
reallygood.
You'rethemaster
ofyourowndestiny
Sogiveandtakethe
bestthatyoucan
(loudrockmusic)
NancyInch:
Triumph'smusic
hasseenme
throughsomeofthe
highestpointsinmylife
buttherehasbeen
moretimesthannot
thatTriumphhasbroughtme
fromareallydarkplace,
keptmefrom,Iwasina
darkplaceforalongtime.
Um,yeah,and
theseguys,oof,
theseguys,uh,gavemea
reasontokeepgoing,youknow,
remindingmethatit's
goingtobeokay.
Theymeanthe
worldtome.
MattHoffman:
Acoupleyearsago
Igotthistattoo
withthemotto
FighttheGoodFight,
whichispartofthe
reasonI'mhererightnow,
littlereminder
everysingleday,
peopleshouldalways,uh,
whenthingsgetbad
fightthegoodfight.
Iwasdiagnosedin2010
withstage3rectalcancer
andeverysingleday
thatIwenttothe-
tothehospitalfor
mychemotreatments
Iwouldhave
Triumphplaying.
"FighttheGoodFight"was
alwaysthefirstsong
goingintothesubway,
itjustreally,
reallytookon
awholenew
meaningforme.
Lessthanamonth
afterIgotdiagnosed
Isentanemail
toRikEmmett.
"HiRik,hopealliswell.
"Ijustwantedto
takeacoupleminutes
"totellyousomethings.
"Ihaverecentlybeendiagnosed
withstage3cancer.
"Iamonly42yearsold
andjustgotmarried.
"Yourmusichas
alwaysbeen
"averyimportant
pieceofmylife,
"especiallynowduring
thisdifficulttime.
"Thanksfortheinspiration.
"Allthebest,
MattHoffman."
Andlessthan24hours,
IgotareplyfromRik
andthisiswhat
hehadtosay.
"HiMatt,I'mverysorryto
hearofyourdifficulties
"andthesechallenges.
"Myheartgoesout
toyouandyours.
"Icanonlyofferyouthesame
adviceIgavemyownbrother:
"Don'tletthediseaseoreven
thefightagainstthedisease
"becomeyour
definingcharacteristics.
"Staytruetothebest
partsofyourself.
"Withlove,Rik."
(Mattsobs)
Youguysare
makingmecry.
That'scool.
Thisismyrockhero
writingthatmessagetome.
Doesn'tget
betterthanthat.
(softguitarmusic)
("MagicPower"
byTriumph)
RikEmmett:
That'saprettystrong
thingthathappensinmusic,
thebondingthingthatoccurs
betweenthebandonstage
andtheaudience
intheseats
andthemusic
that'sintheair.
Something'sin
theairtonight
Don'tknowwhatitis
RikEmmett:
Youwriteasongand
itbecomesahit
andthenyougoandyou're
playingitforanaudience
andtheystartsinging
itbacktoyou,
isthatsongthesame
thingthatyouwrote?
Notanymore,
itbelongstothem.
AlongcomesMTVand
it'schangingthenature
ofallofthesethings
andwehatedthatavideowas
goingtocreateasetofimages
andpeoplearegoing
toseethatimage
andthey'renevergoing
tohearthatsongagain
withoutseeingthatthinghappen
atthatpointinthatsong,
withthatimagery.
Butwehadtodoit.
Wehadtomakevideos.
Interviewer:
Okay,sowhatwe
havehereGil,
thisis,ifyoupressthe
spacebarandjust...
Uhoh.
("MagicPower"plays)
Thisisthedreaded
birthdaycakesinspace.
(laughing)OhmyGod!
Something'sin
theairtonight
Youdon'tknow
whatitis
JohnRoberts:
MTVwasbrandnew,
peopleweren'treallysure
whattodoaboutvideos.
Concertvideosweregreat
butthentheywantedtostart
doingtheseconceptualthings
andinsomecases
theconceptwentwayso
faroffintoleftfield,
asyouwouldwonder
howitevergotthere.
I'myoung,I'mwild
Idon'tremember
thisvideo,though.
I'veneverseenthis!
GilMoore:
Wellthatwascomplete
unmitigateddisaster.
(Gillaughs)
Thedirector...
Wecometothevideo
andthere'sthis
giganticwhiteguitar
thatlookslike
abirthdaycake.
Sohegoes,okay,
that'sthestage,
youguysaregoing
togouponthere.
Andwewent,no,no,
wedon'tdothat,
that'sstupidlooking.
Butnowyou've
gotthisthing,
itexists.
(taperewindeffect)
Somethingyouwillhold
(taperewindeffect)
It'sbuilt,
sowego,reluctantly,
kindoflooking
ateachother,like,
ah,Idon'tknow
aboutthis.
Whoa!Thedrumsjust
cameoutofablackhole!
(imitates
otherworldlyeffect)
Ricky:
Whoa,whatthehell
isgoingonhere?
Julian:
Nowwe'retalking.
Wheredidshecomefrom?
She'saspacechick.
Ona,whatis
shesleepingon?
Bubbles:
Spacebed?
Ricky:
Aspacefloatybed.
(guitarriff)
She'syoung
Nowtheguitar-
Ohshit.
SebastianBach:
Nowtheguitar's
inherbedroom.
Ididn'tseethatcoming.
Gotthemagicpower
ofthemusicinme
GilMoore:
That'slogical,right?
Ifyouhadaspaceship,
wherewouldyoutakeit?
("MagicPower"
byTriumph)
(taperewindeffect)
GilMoore:
Theminuteit
cameoutwewent,
ohno,wegotta
pullthis,
it-it-itcan'tcomeout.
thisisliketoo,this-
wannatalkSpinalTap,
thiswasserious
SpinalTap,
that'swhatI'mtalking
aboutrightnow.
JohnRoberts:
Conceptvideosreallywere
greatfodderforMTVrotat,
butthey'reawful
inretrospect,
whereaswhathaslongevity
andwhatwilllast
isthisideaofjustagoodold
honestconcertpresentation.
(hardrockmusic)
Announcer:
Triumph.Criticscallit
thebestrockandrollshow
oftheyear.
Announcer2:
ComeseeTriumph's
brilliantstageproduction.
TheprideofCanada,
Triumph.
Liveinconcert
tonightat8:00PM
atthe
ConventionCentreArena.
MikeLevine:
Hi,thisisMikeLevine
ofTriumph
andwe'llbeplaying
centrefield
atthe
WorldSeriesofRock,
MilwaukeeCountyStadium
onMaythe28th.
GilMoore:
Thankyouvery
much,Cleveland!
You'rehottonight!
(crowdcheers)
GilMoore:
Ourtoursbackthen
wouldbe,youknow,
closetoahundredshows,
mainlyintheUnitedStates.
MikeLevine:
Madison,Thursday.
Milwaukee,Friday.
Chicago,Saturday.
Inthebigbuildings,
inthebigcities.
MTVVJ:
Agreattriumvirate,Triumph,
inconcertSaturdaynight,
onlyhereatMTV.
Announcer:
TriumphonRCA
recordsandcassette.
JDRoberts:
Areyouallset?
Crew:
We'reallset.
Okay.Anyways,you'vebeenon
theroadsince,uh,January.
Howarethings
goingonthetour?
We'vegonefrombeing
popularandhappening
tobeingsuddenly,youknow,
largerthanlife.
Andwedecided
thatitwastime
toreallybreak
theUnitedStates.
Youknow,wewantedto
endupontheUSFestival.
(80spopmusic)
SteveWozniak:
FortheUSFestival
in1983,
Iwantedallpeople
ofallmusictypes
tofindkindoftheir
daysinthisevent.
AndIlove
goodheavy
metalmusic.
AndIeven
understand
howthey're
somehow
relating
tootherhumanbeings
inplayingit.
ButIdidn'trealize
howincredibleourheavy
metaldaywasgoingtobe.
FestivalGoer:
Over300,000people
justgettingalong,
havingagoodtime,
notrouble.
It'sCalifornia,
it'swhereit'sat.
MikeLevine:
Ithinktheeventis
biggerthananyoneband,
youknow,
there'ssomanyfans,
there'stwoor300,000
peopleoutthere.
Someofthemare
heretoseeus.
Someofthemarehere
toseeVanHalen,
butmore-morethanthat,
they'reherefortheevent.
It'sagathering
ofpeople.
JohnRoberts:
Irememberflyingin
overtheUSFestival
anditwasanamazing
adrenalinerush,
Icanonlyimaginewhatit
waslikeforthoseguys,
itwasthebiggestvenue
they'veeverplayed.
RikEmmett:
I'msittingin
thehelicopter
andwe'regoingoverthese
fieldsofallofthesepeo.
Iwasgoing,
ohshit!
Whatthefuckhavewe
gotourselvesintohere?
(crowdcheers)
GilMoore:
Therewereso
manypeople,
thesecurityandthe
throngsofpressandmedia,
itwasjustacircus.
(camerasclicking)
(crowdcheering)
GilMoore:
ImetSteveonthe
afternoonoftheshow
andwehitit
offandIsaid,
whydon'tyouintroduce
uswhenwegoonstage?
Haveyouintroduced
anybands?
No.
Wouldyouintroduceus?
Oh,I'dloveto.
So,weliterallywalk
onstagetogether.
SteveWozniak:
ThatwasveryrarebutI
meanIwasgladtodoit.
(chuckles)I'msoglad
nowthatIdidit!
Okay,there's
moretocome.
Here'soneofthegroupsthat
reallybelievedinthisevent
aswebelieveinthem,
Triumph!
(crowdcheers)
I'dliketoseesome
handsintheair!
Iwanttoseesome
AlliedForcesoutthere
makingalittle
bitofnoise!
RikEmmett:
Fortheheavymetalday,
itwasmostlyguysand
itwasbroilinghot,
sothey'dalltaken
theirshirtsoff,
soitwasjustpinkflesht
wentasfarasyoucoulds,
outandoverthehills.
Itwassurrealtobe
playingthatgig.
("AlliedForces"
byTriumph)
I'vegotsomething
onmymind
Iwantyoutoknow
Rocktroops
areonthemove
It'sstartin'toshow
EddieTrunk:
TheUSFestival
in'83
canbelookedatasoneof
thedefininggreatestmoments
inthehistoryfor
hardrockandmetal,
anditwasanincredibly
importantstage
forTriumphtobeon.
Theirinclusion
sentabigmessage
abouthowfar
theyhadcome
intheircareer
atthatpoint.
DankoJones:
Ifyougodownthelist
oftheheavymetalday,
VanHalen,OzzyOsbourne,
JudasPriest,MtleyCre,
thesearebands
thatlookdangerous
andthenherearethese
threeguysfromCanada
whoareonthesamestage
butthey'reallinwhite.
RikEmmettsoundsangelic,
evenGil,
andtheylookedlikethey
wenttoboyschoirschool.
SoitsituatedTriumph
asthegoodguys
inanerathatwas
meantforthedirtbags.
Here'swhatIwanttodo,
Iwanttosee
everybodynow
puttingyourhands
togetherlikethis.
(loudrockmusic)
(crowdcheers)
GilMoore:
Louder!
(crowdcheering)
(loudrockmusic)
GilMoore:
Louder!
Triumphwasawell-oiled
machinethatday.
Thesinging,
theplaying,everything.
Andyoucouldtellthey
wantedperfection.
Andthatwasrare.
(guitarriff)
John5:
Iwasdefinitelyconnected
tothisbandbecauseofRik.
Itwaskindoflike
ifEddieVanHalen
wasthislead
singertoo.
(rockguitarriff)
RikEmmett:
IrememberthinkingI
gottatryandplaythisgood
becausethere'sall
thesecamerashere.
Theyhadthemonarms,
theyhadthemontracks,
youcouldn'tescapethem,
theywereeverywhere.
Andsometimes
I'mgoingtorun
andI'lllooklike
atinylittleguy
runningallthewayover
infrontofthisgiantPA
andit'lllook
alittlegoofy.
SoIthought,wow,
thereisn'tahuman
withinahundredyards,
exceptthecameramen.
John5:
Irememberwatching
thisonTV
andIwaslikethis
isincredible,
andhewasrunning
aroundentertaining
thesecoupleofhundred
thousandpeople,
playingperfectly.
(rockguitarriff)
John5:
Butthenhesatdown
andentertaineda
couplemillionpeople,
thepeopleathome,
anditwasgenius.
(softguitarstrumming)
(crowdcheers)

GilMoore:
TheUSFestival
representedarealization
thatwehad
reachedapoint
whereourfanswere
unequivocalintheirsupport.
(crowdcheers)
SteveWozniak:
GilMoore,RikEmmett
andMikeLevine!
Triumph!
(crowdcheers)
GilMoore:
Wefeltgrateful
andlegitimized.
Happybirthdaytoyou
Happybirthday
dearTriumph
happybirthdaytoyou
("WhentheLightsGoDown"
byTriumph)
Whenthe
lightsgodown
Whenthe
lightsgodown
We'rereadyto
lightthefuse
(rockmusic)

Ohwhenthe
lightsgodown
Onemore.
Whenthelightsgodown
Now.
It'stimeto
lightthefuse
(vocalization)
(electricguitarstrums)
So,yeah,we'rerememberingit
thesameway,right,yeah,yeah.
Okay.
Yeah,justdon'tletthis
onethrowyouoffthough.
(electricguitarstrums)
Don'tletthat
throwyouoff.
It'syearsofgoing...
(electricguitarstrums)
GilMoore:
Yes.
(hardrockmusic)

RikEmmett:
It'snotsupposed
tohavebangbang.
Thatwastwo,yeah.
GilMoore:
Doesitseemtoyou
thatI'mpoundingthecrap
outofthedrums?
Playingregular,no.
That'sfine.
GilMoore:
Imeanit'slike-
No,it'sgood.
Itsoundsgood.
Itallsounds,
it'sgonnabefine.
Reporter:
Whodidyoucomedown
toseeinparticular?
Fan:
Triumph!
Fan2:
Triumph.
GreatCanadianband.
We'reherefor
Triumph,man,Triumph.
(rockmusic)
GilMoore:
Inthoseyearsafter
theUSFestival,
we'dreachedthestagewhere
wewerepartofthiswave,
intheUnitedStates
particularly,
butitwasreally
kindofworldwide,
ofhardrock
justdominating.
(crowdcheers)
MikeLevine:
Wewerestarting
torealize
thatwewereinthatlucky
1/10thof1%ofthepopulan
thatgetstolive
theirdream.
(rockmusic)
JohnRoberts:
Triumph,intheearly80s,
theywereasbig
asVanHalen,
theywereasbig
asMtleyCre,
theyweredrawing
equalcrowdstothem
andtheywerereally
kindofridinghigh.
Andthenfroma
businessperspective,
thingscrashed.
GilMoore:
Whenwestarted
withRCA,
theywere
verysupportive
butwesawthisshift
andtheyseemedlike
theyweregoing
inadifferent
directionmusically.
Andwereallydidn't
thinkthattheybelieved
inhardrock,
orforthatmatter,
inTriumph.
MikeLevine:
RCAfiredthepresident
andreplacedhimwitha
guynamedJoseMenendez.
AndJosebrokethenews
thathewassigningMenudo
fortensof
millionsofdollars,
ofwhichabig
chunkofit
wouldhavebeen
ourmarketingmoney.
Sowegotintoa
contractualdispute.
RikEmmett:
MikeandGildecided
we'regoingtofigureout
howtoget
awayfromRCA.
AndIwasgoinglike,
wellyouguysgoto
NewYorkandfightthat
I'llgointhestudioandsee
ifIcanrecordsomestuff.
(guitarriff)
GilMoore:
Wehadavery,veryhigh
profilelawyerrepresentus.
Herepresentedthe
RollingStones
andYokoOno
andhefoundadeficiency
inourcontract
butthejudgejust
dismissedit,
lookedtheotherway.
MikeLevine:
Atthetime,RCAwasstill
abignameinAmerica
andwe'rearetheselong-haired
musiciansfromCanada
infrontofa
75-year-oldjudge
whoprobablyownedan
RCATV,anRCAtelephone.
Igrewupwitha
RCAdishwasher,
anRCAthis,
anRCAthat.
GilMoore:
Youknow,
ElvisisonRCA
andhowdaretheseCanadians
challengetheseguys,
that'sthefeeling
thatwegotincourt.
Wehadthislawyer
thatwasfullof
courtroomtheatrics.
Andatonepoint
hegotsoanimated
thathekindofgoobered
andthenthisspitgoober
wentrighttowardsthejudge
anditwasdisastrousbecause
allofasuddenourlawyer
isspittingonthejudge.
(Gillaughs)
True.
(rockmusic)
MikeLevine:
Nowwe'velostincourt.
Wehavetobuythe
contractoutfromRCA.
HowmuchdoesRCAwant?
Threemillion.
RikEmmett:
Thatmoneywas
onadvance,
weweregoingto
havetosell,
youknow,5million,
6millionrecords
onthenextrecord
inordertostartgetting
backtolevelagain.
Spellbound
(spellbound)
Dreamingofyou
allofthetime
MikeLevine:
Wehadalreadyrecorded
"ThunderSeven",
sowefiguredwhoever
likedthatalbum
wasgoingtosignus,
iftheycameupwith
thedoughaswell.
GilMoore:
IrvingAzoffhad
justtakenoverMCA,
whichwasnotthegreatest
labelatthetime.
IrvingAzoff:
WhenIwenttoMCA,
itwasthisjokeofa
recordcompanyinthevalley
thatnobodywants
tosignto.
Um,so,youknow,
wehadnowheretogo
butupwhenwestarted.
Andhavingbeenamanager,
Ibelievedthatthecore
toaband'slongevity
wastheabilitytotour
wellandselltickets.
Triumphwasanarenasellout,
headliningmegastar.
Theykindofchecked
alltheboxes
forwhatwewerelooking
forinthosedays.
GilMoore:
Sowewentover
tomeetIrving.
Wesatdownforlunch
andIrvingsaid,okay,
soIgottheworstlabel,
butI'llpay
themostmoney.
Sowhatdoyouguys
wantforlunch?
(rockmusic)
GilMoore:
Itseemedlikethestart
ofphasetwoofTriumph.
Reporter:
Forfivemonths
oftheyear,
touringisawayof
lifeforTriumph.
Thissoldoutconcertatthe
SpectruminPhiladelphia
isjustoneof94stops
onthe'85tour.
Altogether,amillion
peoplewillpaytosee
andhearthehigh
techextravaganza
thatisaTriumph
showthisyear.
Rockandroll
livesandbreathes
JoeyScoleri:
WhenTriumphcame
outwith"ThunderSeven",
they'refiringon
allcylinders.
Andtheywerewritingsongs
thatgotonrockradio.
Levinehadthepromotion
downtoascience
andtheyfinallystarted
makingreallygoodvideos
thatweregettinga
tonofplayonMTV.
Keepyourdreamsalive
Followyourheart
You'vegotto
followyourheart
RileyOBythatpoint,
Triumphwasdeliveringbigarena
numbersintheUnitedStates
becausetheywouldgointoas
manymarketsastheycould
possiblyputtheirshowin
andalltheaudiences
werejustlappingitup.
Youweredriveninto
theshowexperience
fromtheopeningnumberand
thenitbecameajourney.
Letmehear
yououtthere.
(crowdcheers)
JoeyScoleri:
Triumph's
"ThunderSeven"
itwastheenvyof
thetouringbusiness.
Andatthattime,
MichaelJackson
andhisbrothers
werelookingtohavethe
biggestshowinpop.
Ithinkitwas
JermaineandTito,
ormaybeitwasMarlon,
Ican'tremember
whichones,
butthoseguyswenttothe
TriumphshowinNewMexico,
sawtheshowand
wentholyshit!
Andthentheyhired
Triumph'slightingguys.
Whatbetterwaytohave
thebiggestshowinpop
thenjusttostealthe
biggestshowinrock?
(rockmusic)
YesIknow
You'vegot
toletitgo
(rockmusic)
(crowdcheers)
GilMooreThankyou!
Triumphlovesyou!
Reporter:
Thisyear'sTriumph
tourisnowover,
butnextMarchaftera
newrecord'sreleased
thebandwillbeback
ontheroadagain.
Ninetymoreconcerts
inninetymorecities.
RikEmmett:
Therewassomuch
touringandsomanygigs
butthewholelandscape
waschanging.
AORradiodidnotmean
whatithadmeantbefore
andMCAsaid"ThunderSeven"
wastooalbum-oriented.
It'stheMTVera,
we-weneedhits,
wegottaget
outsidewriters.
Sowegotta
getaproducer
thathadthosekind
ofconnections
andbroughtthosesongs.
RonNevison:
Alotofpeoplelikethe
engineeringworkIdid
onLedZeppelin,BadCompany,
TheWho,Quadrophenia.
Andasa
producer,uh,
Iwasonthecharts,
Iwas,hada
hotmid-80s.
Summerof'85,
myHeartsingleexploded,
"WhatAboutLove".
RikEmmett:
Ronwastheguythat
gotparachutedin
tosavethese
thingscommercially
andnowhisreputationwith
recordcompanypresidents
washe'stheman,
he'stheguy
thatcandoit.
RonNevison:
Inthosedays,
thealbumsthathadrockhits
thatcouldcrossovertopop,
thatwasthebigsuccess,
thatwaswhat
weaimedfor,
uh,hopefullywithout
compromisingtheband.
IhadreadthatTriumph
wasafacelessband,
soIpushedthemalittle
bittohaveRiksingmostly.
Ithadalotto
dowithMTV,
leadguitarplayer,
singer,frontman.
Ithoughtitwould
beabetterlook.
Ron'sjobwasto
makerecords,
nottosupplyan
imageforaband.
Ronhasaparticular
waytowork
and,uh,hecanbea
littleheavy-handed,
whichisgoodwithaband,
butTriumphwasusedto
doingrecordsontheirown,
soitwasalittle
backwardsforthem.
MikeLevine:
TraditionallyinTriumph,
youknow,
Gilwouldsingsomesongsand
Rikwouldsingsomesongs.
Nowitbecame,
youknow,almostawar.
RonwouldplayGil
offagainstRik
orRikoffagainstGil,
and,youknow,about
who'sgoingtosingwhat
andhe'dtellthemboththey
weregoingtosingthisonesong
andtheyboth
learneditandthen,
no,Gil,you'renot
goingtosingit,
orRik,you'renot
goingtosingit.
I'mthinkingthisis
notgoingtoendwell.
RikEmmett:
We'dcutall
thebedsinLA
andRonpulledmeaside
andsaidyou'vegottobe
abletosingallthesesongs.
AndIwent,whoa,
whoa,whoa,whoa.
Iknowthatit's
Gil'sband,
reallyintheend,
it'sGil'sband,
andRondoesn't
understandthat.
Ontheflightback
IsatwithGil
andIbroached
thesubject.
Ikindoffeellikewe
shouldgivethisashot.
AndGilwasnot
happywithme,
Iwasatraitor.
Andsoitwaslike,
ohman,youknow,
IthinkIevenhad
tearsonthatflight.
GilMoore:
It'senoughofaproblem
forustofigureout
howwe'regoingto
writeareallygoodsong
andhowwe'regoing
toperformit,
wedon'tneed
somebodyelseinhere
muckingaroundwithaformula
thatwealreadyknowworks.
MikeLevine:
We'reflyinghome
andnobody'shappy
andwe'rearguing
aboutstuff.
Youknow,aswe
calledourselves,
theThreeMusketeers,
allofasudden
weweren'treally
theThreeMusketeersanymore.
Thatwasthevery,
veryfirsttime
thatIfeltisolated
fromMikeandRik,
Imean,justineveryway,
wejustfeltlike,
youknow,
allofasuddenthebrotherhood
justseemedtofeelfractured.
Holdontolove
Justonenight
Don'ttryto
fightaboutit
TakemeI'myours
GilMoore:
Weendedupfiring
Ronbecauseitwaslike
ifwedon'tgetaway
fromthisguy,
wewon'teven
getarecord.
Andasidefromhis
technicalskills,
MikeClinkwas
cheeringusonsaying,
youknow,heytheworld
hasn'tcometoanend,
we'regoingtomake
agreatrecord,
let'spullthistogether.
HewasourDr.Phil,
youknow,
thatwaspullingusbackfrom
thebrinkoftheabyss,really.
MikeClink:
Wecompleted90%
oftherecord,
yetwewerestill
shyofthatonesong
andmaybepossibly
thatonesingle,
soitwasuptothe
bandtowritethatsong.
IrvingAzoff:
Itwasadifficulttime
forrockbandsinthe80s
thatweren'tmakingthree
andahalfminutejingles,
butIneverexpected
pophitsfromTriumph.
NowIcan'ttellyou
thatour,youknow,
oneofourpromotion
headsdidn'tsaytothem,
givemesomethingI
canputontheradio.
MikeLevine:
Everypromoguy
wantshitsingles,
sowehadtodeliver
andRon'sgone,
whatarewe
goingtodo?
Rik,gohome.
Gohomeandwrite.
Itwas11thhour.
(clockchimes)
RikEmmett:
Igottawrite
aboutsomething,
somehow,someway,
somebuddy,somehow,
something,
somebody,someway.
(crashing)
RikEmmett:
Uhoh,somebody's
outthere.
Somebody'sout
theresomewhere.
Hmmm,
that'ssomething.
("Somebody'sOutThere"Intro)
Isitfateor
randomchance
HowcanIdecide
Arewevictims
ofcircumstance
Whendestiniescollide
RikEmmett:
"Somebody'sOutThere"didn't
involveoutsidewriters
andwasjustRikgoing
youwannapopsingle,
I'llgiveyouapopsingle,
hereyougo.
JoeyScoleri:
Thatsonghad
alltheelements
thatradioloved
atthattime.
Ithadkeyboards,
harmony,vocals,
ahugechorus.
Somebody'sout
theresomewhere
JoeyScoleri:
Everyrockstation
playedit,
itcrossedover
topopradio,
andyouhearditevery15
minutesonsomeradiostat.
Thesongwasmassive.
RikEmmett:
Triumphseemed
tometobelike
thiscatthat
hadninelives,
itjustkeptpulling
itselfupoffthemat
andIwouldgo,
Iguesswe'regoingtohave
anotherroundofthis.
Announcer:
Fivesemi-trailertrucks,
over100stagehands,
settobringyouthebiggest
showinrock,Triumph.
JohnRoberts:
Gilwasalwaysthinking
abouthowtomake
thebandbetter,
howtomakethe
showbigger,
andhehadthedrumrisert
comesupoutoftheground
anditlookslike
analienspaceship
takingoffwithall
oftheselights.
(drumbeating)
JohnRoberts:
Hereallyunderstood
thepoweroftechnology
andhowtoapplythat
toTriumph'sliveshow.
(crowdcheers)
GilMoore:
Wewerestill
completelyviable,
ourpopularityonradio
wasn'tsuffering,
ourconcerttouring
wasn'tsuffering,
butthecommunication
brokedownwithintheband.
MikeLevine:
Everybodywas
somewhatburntout
becauseofall
thebullshit
aroundthe
"SportofKings"record.
Thefalloutfrom
thatwas-washorrible
andreflectedfrom
thatpointonwards
intheband'scareer.
RikEmmett:
Itwasveryunsettling
thatrecordcompanies
somehowcouldlosethatfaith
andthatevenyourpartners
mightlosethatfaith,
youknow,like,whyarewe
losingfaithinourselves?
SometimesIaskmyself,
howcanImaintainthis?
AndtheansweristhatI
don'tthinkthatIcan.
Thespectreofhugetours
thatlastreallylong
periodsoftime,
theyjustbitetoobig
achunkoutofmylife.
AndIneedtime
tobeabletodosomeofthe
otherthingsthatIwanttodo.
(upbeatguitarmusic)

RikEmmett:
Musicisan
infinitechallenge.
Creativityisan
infinitechallenge.
Iwanttochasethat
andTriumphwasfeeling
likeaboxtome.
(rockmusic)
Keepingthefaith
isaconstantfight
Weliveand
webreatheit
Andwhenyoufeel
thecauseisright
Yougottabelieveit
GilMoore:
Triumphstartedtofeel
morelikewewereworking
andwehadanobligation
tocontinueasaband
butformepersonally,
youknow,
everythingchanged
withmyfather,
so,um,Idon'tknowthat
Iwouldhavesurvived,
uh,youknow,myfather's
passinganybetterthanIdid.
(sombremusic)
GilMoore:
Hewasmymentor
andmybestfriend
andsuddenly
he'snotthere.
WhenTriumphstarted,
hetooksuchakeeninterest,
documentingevery
singleshow,
handlingallour
financialmatters
andteachingmeall
hisbusinessskills.
Andhewasreally
proudoftheband.
Hewasreallythefourth
memberofTriumph.
AllIcanrememberwas
howhorribleitwas
toactuallyhave
toplayshows
andhadnotmadea-a
recovery,uh,psychologically,
andjustgothroughthe
motionslikeaghost.
Itadverselyaffected
MikeandRik
becausetheyhadto
putupwiththefact
thatIwasessentially
completelysilent
andweplayedmaybetenshows
underthosecircumstances.
Irememberonce,ina
conversationwithRik,
andhesaidthatTriumph
feltlikeanemptyhouse.
Iknewwhatahouse
fulloflovewaslike
andhowitmademefeel
andwhenheusedthat
expressionIthought,
Ithinkhe'sgotapoint.
RikEmmett:
Myownunhappinesswiththe
circumstancesoftheband,
theparametersofit,
thewaythatithadplayed
outover13-oddyears,
I'dhadenough.
Ididn'tseeafuture
formyselfthereanymore.
Thisis,"bandsplitsafter
wowing12,000rockfans.
"Lastshowfor
Triumphguitarist".
Yeah,thiswastheend.
"Triumphguitaristand
guidinglightRikEmmett
"playedhislastshow
withthebandyesterday
"inabittersweethomecoming.
"Shortlyafterashow
thatleft12,000fans
"standingontheirfeetat
theKingswoodMusicTheatre,
"Emmettannouncedhe
wasquittingtheband
"hehelpedfoundnearly
twodecadesago
"inthecity'swestend,
"andtookfrombeginnings
intheGasworksTavern
"totheheightsofthe
USFestivalinCalifornia.
"Emmett'sbackstageannouncement
cappedweeksofrumours
"thatTriumph's
endwasnear
"andspelledtheendofone
ofToronto'smostsuccessful
"andinfluential
rockbands".
RikEmmett:
Ionlyeverwanted
tobegoodatmusic.
Ionlywantedto
servicemytalent
andIonlywanted
tohonourmytalent
andTriumphhad
becomesomething
whereIcouldno
longerhonour
inthewaythat
Iwantedto...
thatgiftthatIpossessed.
AndIdon'tsaythat.
Isayitwithallhumility.
It'scalled"SayGoodbye".
(softguitarmusic)

GilMoore:
Iwantedittoend
onapositivenote
butwewentintoa
darkplaceforyears.
MikeLevine:
Allthosespecialthings
thatwedidtogether,uh,
itwasreallysadwhenwe
weren'tdoingthemanymore
andtherewasacrimony
andthat'sneveranygood.
Saygoodbye
CuzI'llbeleavin'
inthemornin'
GilMoore:
It'sastrangeplace
tofindyourselfin
whenyou'veplayedwith
thesamethreeguys
foryearsandyearsandthen
theguitarplayerleaves.
Doyoukeepgoing?
Doyoureplacehim?
It'satoughdecision.
Sowedecidedto
giveitashot
andthatled
ustoPhilX.
Childofthecity
PhilX:
Iwasahugefan,
soitwascoolto
gointothestudio,
beholdingaguitarand
lookingatGilandMike.
Soitwaskindoflike,
isthisreallyhappening?
(rockmusic)
PhilX:
Wewereallin
newterritory
buteverybodyhad
thesamegoal:
let'smakeagreatrecord.
AndIthinkitwas
elevenshowsweplayed,
andobviously
it'satoughgig.
Peoplewantto
hearthehits
andifIwasin
theaudience
andIdidn'tseeRikEmmett
playwithTriumph,
I'dbelike,who
thefuckisthat?
(rockguitarriff)
MikeLevine:
Itwasagreatexperience
workingwithPhil
butitwaskindofweird
beingonstagewithoutRik,
itdidn'treally
feellikeTriumph.
GilMoore:
Formeitwasa
turningpointinmylife
andIwantedtospend
timeatMetalworks,
gobehindthescenes
andgetoffthestage.
MikeLevine:
Wehadpaidourdues,
hadalotofsuccess,
andthere'sother
thingsinlifetodo.
RikEmmett:
AfterIleftTriumph,
Iwasreallytrying
tofigureout
whatkindofanartist
didIwanttobe
andhowmuchdid
Iwanttoevolve,
becauseTriumphhadhad
enoughsuccessatalevel
thatitwasprobablygoing
tobealmostimpossible
formetoovershadowit,
soIknewthatthere
wasalegacythere
thatIwould
havetohonour,
nottheleastof
whichwasthesongs.
Holdon
Holdontoyourdreams
Holdon
RikEmmett:
Iwastouringandwritingand
eventuallymakingrecords,
soIgottoscratchalotof
thingsoffmybucketlist.
IfI'dstayedinTriumph,
Ineverwouldhavehadan
opportunitytodothosethings.
(crowdcheers)
RikEmmett:
Iwasreallystarting
tochangewhoIwas.
Butthethingthatchanged
theworldformewas
mybrotherRussell
gotsickin2006
andpassedawayin
thefallof2007.
Andhewasthe
onethatsaid,
yougottaclean
upthisbaggage.
Mydyingwish,yougotta
fixthingswithTriumph.
Andtheolive
branchwasthere
andIsaid,
okay,I'lltry.
(crowdcheers)
TomCochrane:
Ladiesandgentlemen,
it'sagreatpleasureto
welcomethenewestmembers
tothe
CanadianMusicHallofFame
andmyfriends,
RikEmmett,MikeLevine,
oneofmybestfriends,
Gil'TheImpaler'Moore,
ofTriumph.
Yeah,letshear
itforTriumph!
(crowdcheers)
GilMoore:
Beinginductedintothe
CanadianMusicHallofFame
in2008,
turnedout
tobeacatalyst
togetback
togetherwithRik.
RikEmmett:
AndIdidn'trealizeit
meantthatmuchtome.
NowIknowthatit
doesandthatitdid.
(crowdcheers)
GilMoore:
Throughthatprocess
itjustseemedlike
wegottogetacouple
ofshowsontheroad
toshowourkids
what'sgoingon
andinteract
witheachother.
MikeLevine:
Thefunpartof
itwasthere,
whichwasalwayspart
oftheThreeMusketeers,
whenwewereonthe
roadallthetime.
RikEmmett:
Youknow,I'd
lostmybrother
butthebeautifulthing
abouttheTriumphreunion
wasIgototherbrothersback
thatI'dlostfordecades,
sothatwaskindof
likeasweetmiracle.
Twentyyearsisalongtime
tonottalktoeachother.
I-Ibroketheirhearts,
IknowIdid
andIfelt,youknow,
it'saterriblething.
Um,therewasalotguilt.
Ihadalotofanger
butwhenyou'reangry,
intheend,
whoareyouangryat
inthosecircumstances,
you'reangryatyourself
fornotbeingabletofigure
itoutandmovepastit.
Andyoutrytobe
angryatotherpeople
andblamethemandyougo,
butit'snotthem,
thisisallonyou,
you'retheonethat
hastofigurethisout.
So,ittookme
alongtime,
butintheendIthink
I'mbetterforit.
AndIthinkTriumph
fansarebetterforit.
(rockmusic)
(crowdcheers)
IknowthatIcan
survivejustfine
IsaidIcansurvive
IsaidIcan
surviveonmyown

Wow.
I'mfromHonolulu,Hawaii.
IcameupfromConnecticut.
DrippingSprings,Texas.
SanAntonio.
Wearetheonly
onefromBrazil
thatareenjoyingthis,
itissucha
hugeprivilege.
NancyInch:
There'sphotosthat
I'veneverseen.
Thisislike
earlyseventies.
I'veonlygottentenfeet
andIcan'tbreathe.
Iwasn'tsurewhatto
expectforthisfanevent
andI'minitand
I'mstillnotsure
whatI'msupposedtoexpect
becausethisisbeyond
anyofmywildestfantasies
thatIcouldhavedareddr.
Matty!
-What'supNancy?
NancyInch:
Didyousee-did
youseethis?
No,Ihaven't
seenthatone.
Okay,takeitin.
It'sthehandwrittenlyrics
to"LayitontheLine".
Getthehellout.
Yeah.
MattHoffman:
Thisisblowingmeaway.
Man,I'msogladI
stayedaTriumphfan
andI'mpartof
thisexperience.
Thisis,thisis
trulyamazing.
PauletteBorkowski:
Weallhavethatsamecommon
threadofthecommitment,
nobodywouldbehereif
theyweren'tcommitted,
butTriumphbreakingup,
youknow,
decadesanddecadesago,
there'speoplethat
stillwantedmore.
GilMoore:
Wereallywereconnecting
witheachother
morethanwithourfansin
SwedenandatRocklahoma,
andsothefanevent
neededtobeintimate
becausereallyit'sforthe
hardestofthehardcore
Triumphfanswho
werethemostloyal,
themostdedicated
andstuckwithusfor
yearsandyearsandyears,
soit'saboutbeingableto
givesomethingbacktothem.
JoeyScoleri:
Goodafternoon,everybody.
Howarewedoingtoday?
(crowdcheers)
JoeyScoleri:
Triumphsuperfans!
(crowdcheers)
Thisisawesome.
MikeLevine:
Unbeknownsttothefans,
theyhadnoideawewerethere.
Theyhadn'tseenus
andthey'reallseated
towatchathankyouvideo
thatweputtogether.
Directyourattention
tothescreenhere,
Ithinkyou'regoingto
reallyenjoythisvideo.
(crowdcheers)
MikeLevine:
We'rehiding
behindthescreen
andwecanseeoutbut
nobodycanseein.
Whatwe'refeeling
backstageis,boy,
thesearethetop
fansthatwehave.
Wemayneverplayagain.
Webetterbereally
fuckinggood.
GilMoore:
We'vealwaysfeltthis
hugedebttoourfans.
Itfascinatesmehow
strongtheirfeelingsare
afterallthese
yearswiththeband,
it'shardtogetover,
really,youknow,
Iwanttoseethem,
Iwantto
shaketheirhands.
Thankthem.
(crowdcheers)
(rockmusic)
(crowdcheers)
(rockmusic)
("WhentheLightsGoDown"
byTriumph)

Spotlights
Houselights
readytocue
Backstage
smokeisrisin'
Steaminglike
awitch'sbrew
Iwannaplay
somerock'n'roll
Iwannasingtheblues
ButI'vehadenough
Ifeelitcomin'
Leftthepartyroll
Whenthe
lightsgodown
We'rereadyto
playtheblues
Whenthe
lightsgodown
It'stimetolight
Timetolight
Timetolightthefuse
(crowdcheers)
(loudrockmusic)
RikEmmett:
Talkaboutsurreal,
itwaslikeallof
thosekindsofmoments
oflikebeingonstage
attheUSFestival,
beingonstageatthe
AragoninChicago
orMapleLeafGardens,
they'reallpartand
parcelofthistsunami
that'scomingover
youfromthefans.
MikeLevine:
How'severybody
doingtoday?
(crowdcheers)
MikeLevine:
Beingonstagewith
RikandGilagain,
Imean,thatwasquite
anemotionalexperience
andIthinkit
wasavalidation
astowhatweactually
meanttopeople'slives,
howwecouldthrill
themwithourmusic.
Itwasprettyincredible.
It'slikereally
specialforus.
Wewanttothankyou
guysforcoming.
Ithinkyouknow
whattodorightnow.
GilMoore:
Inabandthere
aremilestones,
ifyou'reluckyenough
tobesuccessful
thefirsttimeyou
getagoldrecord
oryoursell
outaconcert,
andthefanevent
wasinthatrealm
oflife'sgreatestmoments
thatyou'llneverforget.
Comeonandsingnow
I'myoungnow
I'mwildnow,
Iwanttobefree
Gotthemagicpower
ofthemusicinme
I'myoungnow
I'mwildandI'mfree
Gotthemagic
powerofthemusic
Igotthemusic
Yeahyeah

(crowdcheers)
MikeLevine:
Thankyoueverybody!
Triumphlovesyou!
(crowdcheers)
(crowdcheers)
(crowdcheers)
(crowdchants"Triumph")
JoeyScoleri:
Allright,everybody.
Let'shearit
forTriumph!
Howdidyalikethat?
(crowdcheers)
JoeyScoleri:
Thatwaspretty
amazing,right?
(rockmusic)
Ijustcannottellyou
howmuchyoumeanttome
asayoungperson
startingtoplaymusic,
howmuchyou
inspiredme,
howmuchyou
mademebelieve
thatcomingfromToronto,
Canadathingscouldhappen.
RikEmmett:
Creditandthanksgoes
tomytwopartners,
GilandMike,
whoinvitedmealongon
theirquestforsuccess.
Interviewer:
Whathaveyou
gotplanned?
Isitgoingtobemore
spectacularthananythingever?
Absolutely.
MikeLevine:
We'dliketo
sharethisaward
withthoseinthe
musicindustry
whohelpedusdo
theheavylifting
atthevery
beginningof
theband.
Weknowwhoyouare
andwethankyou.
Crew:
Wetakealot
ofprecautions.
JDRoberts:
Doyouever
haveaccidents?
No.
(explosionbooms)
No,nottoooften.
Youmustthinkto
yourselfthateventually
therockandroll
machineisjustgonna
sputteroutand
runoutofgas.
(laughs)
GilMoore:
MikeandRik,
thankyoufor
yourenduring
friendship.
We'reateam.
We'llbea
teamforever.
Thankyou.
(crowdapplauds)
JDRoberts:
Whenyouwalked
uptheramp
andyoulookedout
intothatamphitheatre
andsaw300,000people,
whatdidyouthink?
It'sgoodtosee
CaliforniaisintoTriumph.
Imeanyoudidn'tgo,
holyshit.