Jamali Maddix: Follow the Leader (2024) s01e01 Episode Script
Paedophile Hunters
1
Was this the guy you're going after?
Yeah, but I'll show you also.
Um
OK, soIs your phone just full
of paedophiles?
Yeah, I got a lot of dick pics on
there, and, like, none of them
are mine, soIt's just a phone
full of paedophiles, right.
Vigilante groups trying to expose
child sex predators are popping
up all over the United States.
What's driving people to join fringe
subcultures and communities?
You guys want to see a predator
get caught?
I think I've done about 20 films,
and I think this is the worst
stuff I've heard.
And what do their leaders promise?
You're live with 300 people.
I'm immersing myself in fringe groups
to understand the real
motivations behind their beliefs.
I mean, there's no race,
gender, age.
It could be anybody,
any income, anything.
I'm in America, where the world
of online paedophile hunting
I think I'd be a good hunter.
..and shocking livestreamed stings
are attracting millions.
Watching from Dublin, Ireland.
Bringing fame and money
to its frontmen.
He's a wild horse, he's a hero.
What's making them take the law
into their own hands?
Come on, man.
And are the hunters doing it for
the people they claim to protect
For the price of only one
pumpkin spice latte a month,
you can watch these videos.
..or are they doing it
for themselves?
This is a whole heap of madness.
I was talking to my boy today
and I was like, "what am I doing?"
He goes, "I don't know what
you're doing."
He goes, "why are you doing that?"
I don't know what I'm doing
with my life.
Should have just been a plumber.
Innit? We should have just
been plumbers.
I'm in Broomfield, Colorado to meet
Tommy Fellows
..who is fast becoming America's
most prolific predator hunter.
Hey, what's up, man?
How's it going, man?
Nice to meet you.Nice to meet you,
I'm Tommy.
Nice to meet you, man,
nice to meet you.
So, what's going on?
So today we actually have
19 people that flew in
from across the United States
to catch a 32-year-old
who's going to meet with
a 13-year-old.
And he's on his way now.
Uh, yeah, he'll be there in about
five minutes, so
Great.Cool, let's go.
We are live.
Tommy has amassed thousands
of followers, and some of them
have flown thousands of miles
to watch a capture up close.
So, what are you doing?
We're watching him live, then
we're going to walk over.OK.
The decoy's on the phone
with the pred.
So the pred's in the area?Yeah.
Backed in like a sneaky little shit.
I'm going to have to do it.
Tommy's running over, so.
Yeah.
Let's snag and bag him, baby.
I'm not going to call the police,
I just want to talk to you.
Can you roll the window down?
But you're the predator, I should be
the one worried, right?
I live in the same town as you, bro.
How many times have you met
with a 13-year-old?
This was going to be the first time?
It's going to be the last time, too.
Why are you recording it now?
I just want it, I want to see it.
I want to have it,
cos I'm here this time.
It's personal.
Is this your first in person
In person.OK.
My very first in person.
Oh, it's your first one?Yes.
It's a high.
When you watch them get caught on
the screen, yeah, it's great.
This is so awesome to see it
in person.
All right, guys, we got
a bunch of people here.
I appreciate you guys, much love.
I'm jumping off.
Love you guys.
Peace!
Hey, Tommy, how do you think
it went?
Uh, went all right.
When you're walking over,
how do you feel?
I just needed to get to him
as fast as I could.
Because if I can talk to him,
let him know we're not here
to hurt you, man, we don't even have
to call the cops
if you're honest with us, whatever.
Just try to get him to stay.
When you say, "I won't call
the cops?"I say I don't have to.
And, you know, I never have
called the cops.
Oh, really?No, it's other people
calling for me.
But you know what I mean,
it's just tricking them, you know?
How does it feel, like all of these
people and they've come
from different states?
It's definitely heart-warming, man,
it's amazing.
All of us together like this,
this isit's pretty amazing, so.
Yeah, I love it.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Tommy's relatively new to the
paedophile hunting business.
He set up Colorado Ped Patrol,
or CPP, just three years ago
and has carried out nearly 400
stings and got 40 convictions
across the states.
I'm at his home,
which is also the group's HQ.
Hey, man, how you doing?
What's up, brother, how you doing?
This is my little office
where I do everything.
This is where the magic happens?
This is where the magic happens.
You got a lot of stuff here.
Football memorabilia.
Oh, you're a football fan?
I sell it.
Oh, you sell it as well?
Get some money, yeah.
So do you make money off
the pred hunting?
I do.Donations?It used to be
YouTube used to be huge.
So from, like, pred hunting on
YouTube, how much could you make?
Probably 100,000 a year.
That's crazy.Yeah.
Why do you think so many people
watch it?
People like to see predators
get taken off the street.
When I saw it, I couldn't stop
watching it, man, because I went
through it ten years ago, you know,
somebody real close to me.
So people get to see how many
predators are actually
in this little small area.
Yeah, it's obviously dangerous.
Yeah.Because you're putting
yourself in a conflict?Absolutely.
Two predator catchers have already
been shot, one was killed.
Really?Yeah.
This is my catch for tomorrow.
Oh, OK.
It's a 44-year-old going
for a 13-year-old.
It's weird because it's like, I
I don't know what I expect them
to look like.
Yeah.Do you know, I
First I expected him to look like
aA nonce?You know, I had
Yeah.Yeah, yeah, you expect him
to look like that.
Yeah, no, they're not, yeah,
it's wild sometimes, you know,
you catch guys showing up in suits
and you would never expect it.
What's this photo here?
Which one?The Jesus.
That's So one of our trolls
did that,
so we made a picture of it
and framed it.
This is Captain,
this is my buddies.
And that's you?Yeah.
Do you know what's madness as well,
is when you realise
someone really took time,
that don't take ten minutes.
No, no, they dedicate themselves.
I understand they're trolls,
but why a photo of you as Jesus?
They used to say cult shit,
you know?
Would you say it's a cult?
Would you say it is?
I would say no.
I make the final decision.
But it's a group effort
to get to that decision.
What Tommy offers to his followers
is a chance for them
to get involved in the hunts.
All right, everybody,
welcome to CPP decoy training.
He trains people to find
predators online.
Decoy persona.
This is possibly the most
important part of your decoy.
Remember that you are a teenager.
You will have to think and speak
like a teenager.
The use of emojis and internet
jargon is essential,
along with poor punctuation
at times.
Once decoys find a target,
there's a core group of supporters
who find their whereabouts.
What's going on, guys,
what you got going on?
Oh, we are looking up a scumbag.
Yeah?Yeah.What do you think
makes a good hunter?
I think it's somebody who wants
to solve a puzzle.
Being able to think outside the box.
Yes.So it's like a murder mystery,
but you get to do something good?
I think I'd be a good hunter.
I think, I think
You sit down, I'll get up.
Yeah.
Do you think that there will ever be
a time this will be your jobs?
Because, Tommy, this is like
his job, from the donations,
make money, whatever and can
support himself off of it.
Yeah.Is there a sort of idea
to make it so everyone
can support themselves?
Mm-hm.Um
I know it's what Tommy wants.
It's what Tommy wants.
He wants it to be able to pay us.
If you look at like the criticisms
people have
Yeahit would be that
he gets paid and you guys don't.
Well, people think he makes
all this money, he doesn't.
Do you guys put your own money
into it?
Oh, yeah, thousands of dollars.
Wow.Yeah.
It's OK because it's all
about the mission.
We do all this for the kids.
We chose Tommy to do this for
because he's the guy
that we're like, oh, man, if I were
to do it, that's exactly
how I would do it.
When you were young, did you always
want to be some type
of investigator or some type of spy?
Because it's kind of like,
it's very particular skills.
I wanted to be a rock star
when I was younger.OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're a little bit far off.
Yeah!
Being a newcomer to the world of
online hunting, Tommy's attracted
the attention of rival hunters.
Pull up straight ahead,
I just like
Like Alex Rosen, who heads up
the Houston based organisation
called Predator Poachers.
Hey, Tommy, I got a call from 2005,
they want your Ecko hoodie back.
This is how immature they are.
Says the guy that's worn the same
jacket two months in a row.
Really? Really?Yeah.
Cos I think I have about seven
or eight of these.
I don't wear the same clothes,
buddy.
This is the shit Alex does.
But, Tommy, you called me
a paedophile, so address it.
Address it.
He's a fucking loser idiot!
He's crossing the line.
Started what?
What did I say that wasn't true
about you, name one thing?
You said my kid's retarded,
you said my wife's a fucking man.
You called me a pedo.
You're a racist piece of
I'm smarter than you.
Well, he has a gun
on him, bro.
Dude, dude, you have a gun, dude?
Of course I got a gun,
you got three people.
You by yourself,
come out of that car.
And do what?
We're going to fucking square up.
Right, let me take off my seat belt.
Rock your world, bro.
Where do you want to do it?
We can go to the park and do it!
I'm crossing state lines to meet
Tommy's predator-catching
nemesis, Alex Rosen.
An activist on the
Libertarian right.
Alex set up Predator Poachers
five years ago.
We're doing it with the police
right here, OK?
His online fame blew up
at a political rally
when he had a few choice words
for Hillary Clinton.
CHANTING
Is this really necessary?
Is this really necessary, guys?
Is this really necessary?
Alex has racked up close to 100
convictions in 40 states so far.
Follow us on Facebook.
Yes, middle-aged white lady who
doesn't know what Rumble or Locals
is and doesn't know how to click a
link. Follow us on Facebook. Ooh!
And his method of revealing
incriminating details
Be the uncle to the kid.
..along with his right-wing
politics
CHANTING OVER MEGAPHONE:
Baby killers!
..appeals to thousands, who each
pay monthly subscriptions
to watch his videos online.
Consider becoming a mem-ber
in the pinned comment.
And if you want to see this video
uncensored and early,
you could have just became
a mem-ber in the pinned comment.
Alex has invited me along
to his next catch, so we've travelled
four states from Colorado
to meet him at his current hotel
in Huntington, Indiana.
KNOCKING AT DOOR
How's it going? Nice to meet you.
Looking for a paedophile hunter.
JAMALI LAUGHS
I'm right here. Right here.
Can we come in?Absolutely.I don't
want to film in the corridor.
People get creeped out by cameras.
I'm sure you know.Yes, yes.
What have you been getting up to?
Well, we catch online
child predators.
I'm 23 years old right now. Started
doing this when I was 19.You're 23?
Yeah, I know, dude. The hairline.
But, you know.Yeah, yeah.
You got to think of all
the dick pics I've seen
in the past couple of years.Yeah.
It'll age a guy!
It would stress anyone out!Right,
exactly.What did you do before?
I've always wanted to be a police
officer.Oh, you wanted to be a cop?
Yeah, I've always wanted to do that.
Why didwhy did you
Why did you not be a cop?
So at 19 years old,
you had to be 21 to graduate
the academy.
Ah.So I've always wanted
to be that person catching
the bad guys. So I saw an
opportunity to do it through that.
Would you be a cop now, then?
Well, I do want to run for office
one day.No shit!
Yeah, I do.
Under what platform?
The platform would absolutely be
tightening the laws on child
predators. And the other platform
would just be slashing taxes
because I hate paying taxes.
So, I mean, I think a lot of people
canProtect the kids,
slash the tax.Yeah,
protect the kids, slash the tax.
You might win on that platform,
to be fair.Exactly.
And so this is my first up close and
personal hunt.OK.
What should I expect?
I mean, there's no race,
gender, age.
It could be anybody, any income,
anything.
Do you get excited?Do I get excited
about doing this?Yeah.
It's the funnest thing in the world.
I think we're ready to go.Yeah.
Do you wear a bulletproof vest
or anything?
Oh, I should, but I don't.Just
shorts.Yeah.Just shorts and a tee.
I'm just a package delivery guy!
Is this your crew?
This is the crew, yeah.
How you doing, bro?How you doing?
I'm good, man.
Let's go head out, man.All right.
Alex views his work as a stepping
stone to political office,
which makes Tommy Fellows
the opposition.
I have fun just playing
the mental game with Tommy.
And it's like verbal jujitsu,
you know what I'm saying?
It's not just any one group has the
right to go save children.Yeah.
It should be everybody.
I mean, we put in a shit
ton of work.
I mean, we like to say we travel
the most, catch the sickest.
We're not just on dating apps,
just trying to find people.
We're trying to find the child
porn traders.
And I think that separates us
from other channels.
How come you don't just get evidence
and take it straight to the police?
Well, I think it just sits it on
a desk for months and months,
or even years. But if we call the
police to the spot,
it just puts the ball in their
court immediately.
When these predators admit
to something like child porn, well,
boom, they can't ignore that.
So we have this next catch
here in Franklin.
So he thinks the girl is coming
to his house.
He says he's getting Taco Bell
right now.
So bringing alcohol and Taco Bell.
Are you going to eat the Taco Bell?
We'll see.
Depends how the catch goes.
OK, he's leaving Taco Bell
right now.
In the next two minutes.
WHISPERING:Oh, he's parking
right there.
Excited?I am excited.
Oh, there he is.
Heads down, heads down.
He's getting shit out of the back
right now.
How old does he think she is?11.
WHISPERING: Fucking hell.
Hey, stop right there.
Got any weapons on you?
Uh, got a knife.
Mind if you just drop that knife,
please?
Thank you.
Do you mind if we just go and have
a talk over there?
They can quit filming me.
Yeah, you can just face that way.
Don't matter.
So do you ideally know what I'd come
to talk to you about today?
No, I'mnot real sure.
I meanOK.
I'm just here to talk, man.
That's all.
So who was all that food for?
A girl.OK.
How old did she tell you she was?
Um15.
So some of these messages here,
I mean
I think you can kind of help
with this.
There's people on Telegram
that I've heard are pretty
crazy on there.Yeah.
There have been groups
that you've been in that people
Like, bad apples have posted
that stuff, but youYeah.
But you peaced out of there.
Oh, yeah.
I obviously know this is not
something you condone
Oh, she's probably going to call
She's probably going to call
the cops.
We're going to just walk off the
property
just so we're all kosher here.
You want to talk in the car?
OK. Is this a conversation
we could continue at home?
Here, let's get the camera guys
away.
I'm just simply here to talk to you.
This is your opportunity to actually
not get looped into these people.
I'd rather just talk to you, man.
All right. Well, they're not filming
right now.
Oh, my fucking God.
Guys, you got to get out of the way
when he says to fucking
not film, dude. You just got to
move out of the way.
Like, he's looking at you the whole
fucking time, bro.
Oh, my God.
Are you talking to us?Huh?
Are you talking about our camera?
No, dude.Oh!
They were just Like, guys.
When he's already giddy
about the camera,
just don't stick it in his face
when he's just in the car.
Just move away.
The audio is still picking it up.
Hey, Alex. It was a bit confusing.
What happened?
He was literallyjust started
talking about the child porn groups
he was in, and then the fucking
manager just comes and says,
"By the way, there's no filming."
I mean, oh, my God, dude.
Then they just spooked him and he
just walked away.
It seems like it's pissed you off.
Yeah, it really did.
I mean, fucking white woman
You can put this in
the fucking documentary.
White women can't keep their grimy
fucking hands out of anything.
If you see people minding their own
business, leave it the fuck alone!
That is my message
and official statement.
Endorsed by me, myself and I.
Do you want that on a plaque or?
Yes.
LAUGHTER
That is literally the Karen manager
coming in and just fucking getting
this guy spooked, bro.
It's not just about bringing
predators to justice.
Stings that don't end in a catch
aren't popular with viewers,
and that could affect subscriptions.
So you think the sting went good?
No, I fucking don't.
JAMALI CHUCKLES
Hi, there. I'm Skeet Hansen,
and welcome
to another captivating episode.
There's one catcher with
more followers than almost
any pred hunter in the US.
Damn, I look good.
He's a YouTube star
..whose stings combine high
production values
It's your boy Skeet Hansen,
back at it again.
..hidden cameras
and a cast of extras.
What's going on?
Looks like you made
the naughty list.
And he's racked up
millions of views thanks
to his prankster hunting style.
You've just been Skeeted in 4K.
Skeeted in 4K.
Skeeted in 4K.
KNOCKING
Skeeter Jean.Welcome to my crib.
Thank you!
You've got a nice yard!
This is my living room.
This is where I, uh, do my living.
Here we got, like, my studio
Oh, this is the bit where you do the
interview bit.Exactly.
You do the, "Hi."I'm Skeet Hansen.
"I'm Skeet Hansen."Exactly.
"You've been Skeeted."In 4K.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.Yep!
What'd you work as before?
I was actually working for a bank,
processing mortgage loans.
This is different to that.
Do you make more doing this
than you did doing finance?
Oh, absolutely.Are you rich?
Um, rich?
Some people may consider me as such,
but I like to stay humble.
Yeah?Yeah.
You know?Are you a millionaire?
I'm not a millionaire.
No, we're not there yet.
Can you tell me roughly
how much you make?So maybe
So maybe not.
I mean, uh, enough to support
myself.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that could be
That could be 20,000.
It's in the six-figure range.
OK. Hundreds of thousands.Yeah.
OK.Yeah.Sick, that's cool.
Man, I might start pedo hunting.
You got a million subscribers?
I do. Just surpassed a million.
That is my YouTube plaque.
The gold plaque.
Is that a prized possession?
Oh, it is, absolutely. Yeah.
Vid ideas? "Pred My Pride".
Pred My Ride.
That's like a spin-off of
Pimp My Ride, where we would go
to a predator, and he has a really
beaten down car.Yeah.
And we would act like we're trying
to give him a free touch up
on his ride.OK.
It's not really a punishment, then,
is it?
Well, no. It is, because the stuff
we're going to put in it is going
to be like We're going
to have all the chat logs
and that throughout the car.OK!
So just something crazy like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just branching off into other kinds
of content.OK. Why branch out?
I just need to have something
that's a little more advertiser
friendly.
And it says, "Adam 800"
Oh, those are a couple of friends
that owe me money.
CHUCKLING
You're coming for that paper, innit?
Oh, yeah.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can't be letting that go.
We're more similar than I thought,
you know.
While Skeet is the creative brain
commanding the outfit,
I want to meet his full-time team,
who each have a distinctive role
in the business.
I was actually 15 years old
when I did my first decoy thing.
You were 15 when you?15.
And I was portraying a 13-year-old.
You as a child
Me as a child did it, yeah.
That'snot good.
The first person I actually ever
caught and confronted was someone
that my mom was friends with in
high school.No way!Mm-hm.
That's wild.It is wild, right? Yeah.
A weird school reunion.
SHE LAUGHS
It's an exciting energy.Oh, yeah!
Oh, for sure, man.
It's kind of like It's a buzz,
innit?It's very exciting.
It might get spicy. Do you need me
to hold a gun?
I can hold a gun.
I might have someone right now
who's actually in a wheelchair.
I just found out, Skeet.
I just found out.
I see. Well, we don't discriminate.
Is it a good or bad thing?
People are going to say that video
is fake,
but you really can't make
this shit up.
LAUGHTER
How are we going to get him up
theDon't discriminate!
If he needs help, then you just
literally pick up the wheelchair
and bring him up here.
Even if it's against his will.
We'll just cut it out
from the video.
Well, it soundsOh, wheelchair
guy's still on the line, though.
Is he?He's keeping in contact.
Oh. The GoPros are rolling,
and this guy should be here
in the next ten-ish minutes.
Why don't you just call him, then?
DIAL TONE
Hello?
SING-SONG:Hello?
You might as well start rolling
the GoPro.
With five minutes to go and still no
sign of a potential paedophile,
Skeeter's team are still waiting.
They're less focused on conviction
rates than any other hunters.
But to produce clickbait for
viewers, they still need a target.
I got a question for you, yeah.
Throughout history, we've always
wanted to see things
that we probably shouldn't
that we can kind of mock and enjoy.
Like, I've seen your content.Yeah.
And there is a part of it
Because I know he's a potential
or alleged paedophile, it makes it
easier for me to see him
be pranked, or to see him be put in
an uncomfortable, embarrassing
situation.Absolutely.
BecauseI think everyone
would agree.
If you see a title, "Predator
shows up in a wheelchair to meet
"a 13-year-old girl," you're going
to look at it and think,
"This isn't really my kind of
content, but I've got to find out
"if this is real."
YeahAnd they click it.
Even if you think it's wrong,
you'll watch itSure
..knowing that it's wrong.Yeah.
Just on the basis of,
"I've got to find out
if this is real." You know.
Do you think he will come?
I do. I really do think this guy
will come.
We've been on and off all day.
He just said, "I'm sorry."
Wheelchair guy said "sorry."
He just said sorry. That's it.
He's not coming.
Why can't they just fucking show up?
That's fucking annoying.
All right. It's been a long night
of decoying.
We thought we were going to be
catching this wheelchair guy,
but he's not coming now.
But we got his address,
so we're going to roll up in
..roll up on him tomorrow.
Um, no pun intended.
It's That's where we're at.
You disappointed? You look sad.
I am. It is disappointing, you know.
I want to catch these guys
and teach them
that you can't be out here
doing that.
Actually, throw me that UPS
right there.
This one?Yeah. So, this the one
we've got
This is for the next guy here.
All right.
Oh, you are saying you're a UPS
delivery guy.
Yeah!That'snot believable.
But, um, who gives a fuck?
So far, most of the stings
I've seen haven't gone to plan.
I haven't seen a target be
confronted by a hunter,
so I'm keen to join Alex
on his next catch.
Can you tell me a little bit
about this guy?
He's a guy who's messaging who he
believes to be a 13-year-old girl
asking her for nudes.
And he's showed us groups of
child pornography he was in.
So I think there's a 100% chance
he has it on his phone.
Is it livestreamed?
Um, this one will beyeah.
So say you livestream it,
you put it out.
If you are wrong, then what happens?
Oh, we're not wrong.
No, no, noWe're not
I'm just saying if. I'm saying if.
Well, that would be a one in a
one-ever situation.Mm.
Because it's a guarantee.
God, I'm not worried.
OK.
Alfredo, is this your full-time job?
Yes.
What would you say your job is?
Cameraman for
the Predator Poachers.Yeah.
I was going for school
for construction management.
We started travelling, like,
every month
Yeahso I couldn't go to school.
Oh, you dropped out of school
to do this?
Yeah, we both dropped out
at the same time.
Are you three all best friends?
Yeah, I would call them brothers.
Brothers.
We've been through some
crazy, crazy stuff.
You feel the same, Alfredo?
Yes, sir. Absolutely.
It's a weird thing to do
with your mates.
With my friends, I normally go out
to eat or something.
Oh, we do that, too. But it's just
likeYou know what I mean?
We'll go to a bar.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
All right. Cool, man.
Do you kind of know what I'm here
to talk to you about?No.
OK, so I'm trying to narrow
down some age ranges here.
So what's the common age ranges
you think are in these groups
that they're posting?I have seen
probably 14
The truth probably didn't come
out there.
Realistically, how many times have
you boughtTwice.
You bought child porn twice?
So, that's who sold you that stuff?
Mm-hm.OK.
Jamali.
Oh, man. Could use some
fried pickles.
Can you order a friend pickles
order?
OK. Order the fried pickles!
Freaking starving.
All right.
Do you have a passcode
on your phone?
It's oneBLEEP.
OneBLEEP.OK.
How's it going, sir?Pretty good.
We have a group that catches online
child predators, and we just wanted
to kind of turn that into you guys.
You just basically just got carried
away and just bought some child porn
the past week? OK.
And it was on your phone? OK.
And that's
And your code's oneBLEEP?OK.
Well, that's kind of the gist here.
How do you feel?
He did at one point ask for nudes.
Yeah. Then in person with us
he also admitted she was 13.OK.
He's going to be released from here
because
You are taking his phone, though,
right?Yeah, of course.
Can't obviously charge him with
anything
until we have, like, fact
Of course, yeah.
Have you never dealt with a catching
crew before?
I never have. Heard of it going on,
but it's not super common
around here, soRight.
Like, I'm a comedian, innit?
So, like, you know, I'll make
a joke at a funeral, but there's
something just inherently
depressing about all of this.
You know what I mean, though?
Like, I couldn't do what you do.
It's all very friendly.Yep.
Even when you were talking to him,
it felt friendly.
The cops talking to him,
it feels friendly.
You got to instantly find shit
that you could build a connection
with them with. Then he tells me
more shit. So it is
You've got to groom the groomers.
Yeah.So
All right, guys. Be sure to join up
on Locals in the pinned comment.
Really helps us out. We do travel
the most and catch the sickest.
We are all the way in Michigan
right now from Houston, Texas.
We're from the southern border
to the Canadian border.
Drove a very long way, but we'll go
any distance to get someone sick
like this, hopefully, off the
streets here.
Locals, $8 a month, 70 videos early
and uncensored.
And follow us on Facebook, too.
I'm trying to be separate.
Like, I'm trying to be away from it,
and I'm trying to observe.
But just by the nature of it,
is we're filming the thing.
I'm still weirded out morally.
Like, where do I sit with it?
Because I'm included in the content.
I don't know,
it feels entertainment-y.
The content is important because
there are viewers and then
the viewers equal more money.
But then you hear that stuff
and you go,
"Oh. It's paying for him
to get guys like that who watch
"fucked up stuff."
You know what I mean?
It's stuff I wouldn't even repeat.
We're interrupting this broadcast
to let you know we're going
to Mallie's Sports Bar and Grill.
OK.
I'm going to be trying a taco
challenge there.
How many tacos do you have to eat?
They said two pounds.
I don't think that's It's not
a challenge. It's my fucking lunch.
Two pounds? Yeah.We'll see what
they got.
You're a big dude. You'll be fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.Peace.
It feels uncomfortable, how normal
it's become. Like, we're literally
going from here to go eat
two pounds of tacos.
Do you know what I mean?
Where I feel like I need aI need
to wash this off.
You know what I mean?
Three,
two,
one, go.
I've spent a few weeks with hunters
now.
Do you always eat a big meal
after catching?
But I'm even more confused
by their motives,
whether it's about justice
or entertainment.
I'm here in Broomfield, Colorado
with your husband.
He didn't want to call you, but
he's here at the Walmart to pick
up the 14-year-old boy.
I'm sorry.
I've come to talk to Tommy about how
the hunting world is changing.
The media's questioning
their methods, and the targets
are starting to fight back.
Already one of them
tried to stab him.
Hello?
Yes.
OK, perfect.
I will do it. Thank you.
Bye.
We've got our deadline today for
thebeing sued by the predator.
You're being sued?Yeah, and our
deadline for response is today.
How many charges has occurred
during the time of being a hunter?
It's the first time I've ever been
sued.Uh-huh.
I've been threatened before,
a couple of times,
but this is the first time
it's actually happened.
Charges directly related to this,
too, I think.
Yeah.Because I was targeted by
a certain police department, but
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't prove that.
So probably two charges.
And I'm going to win this.
Yeah, it just sounds stressful
for me, man.
Yeah, it can be.It sounds mad.
I enjoy it.Yeah.Yeah.
I can tell you enjoy it. Yeah.
Tommy's called his faithful
together from across America
to celebrate their recent
conviction successes.
I'm interested in finding out
what draws them to Tommy.
What is it particularly about Tommy
as opposed to the other groups
that you were drawn to?
Well, this guy's cleaning up
our neighbourhood.
This guy's making it literally safer
for my kids to be here.
Um, he just earned my respect
right from the start.
Some people here have flown
over from other states.Yeah.
Why do you think that they're drawn
to how Tommy does it
as opposed to the other ones?
If you watch him,
you can see what he's doing.
He's not in this just for the clout.
You know?
He's got aDo you think there
are people that are in it
just for clout?Maybe.Yeah.Maybe.
Either way, I don't look down on it,
because what they're doing
is a good thing.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's God's work.
Thank you, Julie and Tommy,
for what you guys do
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
You kind of followed this person
through a screen
and then it's, like, actually
seeing it in real life.Yeah.
Have your feelings changed about
Tommy?He's a wild horse.
He doesn't run with the pack,
but in a good way.Mm.
He's a hero.Mm.
That's the way I see him.
He's a hero.
It kind of feels a bit likenot
in a negative way, but a celebrity.
Mm-hm.Do you know what I mean,
though?
You're talking about him
like a rock star.
We're invested.I can tell.
We're totally invested, you know?
We're hunting right along with him.
But I'm having a blast.
What about him made you so happy?
I'm a survivor.
FALTERING:And, um,
I really respect Tom.
And feeling vindicated
every time he catches one.Mm.
It's therapy. And I know it is
for so many people.
Do you feel like you've found
a community?
Oh, it's Absolutely.
It's a family.
OK, ready? That's perfect.
ALL: CPP!
APPLAUSE
Speaking with Janie, it's clear
that whilst people may be initially
drawn into the group by
a charismatic frontman, what often
cements their dedication
is a sense of belonging they find
with each other.
Remembering something Tommy said
when we first met, I'm interested
in digging deeper into his own
reasons for doing this.
One question I do want to ask you,
you sort of started to mention
about someone close to you,
something happened.
What happened exactly?
So, somebody very, very close to me
12 years ago now, um,
had this kind of same thing
happen to them.
Immediately, we called the police.
And that's kind of what started
all this.
I still tell people that was my
first catch.
I guess you felt powerless,
and your intention is to protect.
I remember the day when I asked
what happened,
and immediately the fear
in his eyes.
And I see that with the predators
when we catch them.
It's like they see their life
goinglike they're going
to go to jail. And to me,
it's almost like, "Ha-ha,
"you were going to do that
to somebody."
And I know that's probably not good
to think, but I do get satisfaction.
It makes more sense now.
You've seen how it can destroy.
Having that traumatic thing
happen to you.
Talking about it makes you feel
better.
A little better. Yeah, yeah.
They're monsters.
I like to see them scared,
because they deserve it.
But shouldn't be punishing people.
So I'm, like, split, even me.
I'll get hard on them, talking
mean to them. Then I feel bad.
I'm like, "I'm talking to a human
like this."
And so I do struggle with it
a little bit.
It sounds like your life's
confusing.For sure!
Yeah, that's no joke.Is that good
for you and is that sustainable?
It helps me more than it doesn't,
I would say.
I get tonnes of mail and stuff.
Somebody will reach out to me
and say, "Hey, you know,
"watching your videos helped me
cope through my thing."
I get a lot of satisfaction
knowing that.
Or people will say, "I wish you guys
were there when I was younger."
But if it helps one, and we know
we have, it would be worth it.
As I come to the end of my time
with paedophile hunters,
Skeet has been in touch.
He's managed to film his sting
with the wheelchair target.
If you want to see the footage
we got, I canI'd love to!
..walk you a bit through that. Yeah.
My name's Doyle from
Prestige Worldwide Press.
Oh, we just wanted
to interview you
about all of your accomplishments
He doesn't seem very smart.
And he's in a wheelchair.
VIDEO:We're doing a documentary,
basically about the hardships
of being, you know, people
being in wheelchairs and whatnot.
So and we know
At this point, he seems to be
buying the whole thing.
You think he believes you?
A little bit.
You know, just basically
just quick interview with you.
Would that be OK?
This would be your picture, right?
One of them, yeah?
Umand it looks like
Seem to be enjoying it.
It'sit's fun.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
You're definitely gonna
be famous, for sure.
A 13-year-old girl that
you've been talking to.
Yeah.
Are you trying to not laugh?
Uh, I'm trying to.
What is it about it
that you find funny?
Like, what's the payoff?
I guess, like, it's like the
whole logic of the scenario,
like what's actually going on.Mm.
It's fucking ridiculous.It is.
Yeah.Like,
I gotta be honest with you,
I'm trying to watch
this objectively.
It's fucking mad
what's happening here.
Yeah.This is a whole
heap of fucking madness.
Keep wheeling and dealing, I guess.
Well, oror don't.
Like, I think sometimes
because you do it so much,
you've become desensitised
to how mad this is.
Yeah.And do you ever worry
that it's going
to get out of hand too much?
Um, I mean, there's so
many different avenues
where this content
can be, like, approached.
Yeah.So I think it's
I've got a good long while
before it would get to that point.
Cos this is crazy to me.
Yeah, exactly.
If you're not used it
I'm not used to this.
So this for me is like,
this is wild.
BANJO MUSIC PLAYS
Cool, cool.
All right, so basically what's
happened is, um, I was sleeping,
um, and then I got
a phone call from the producer,
and she's rang me up,
and she says, "Get up.
"Get up." I said, "Wh-What?"
And I said, "What's going on, then?"
It's not a thing
that's nice to wake up to,
just knowing
you've got to go on a sting.
Out of everyone
I've spent time with on this trip,
Tommy and his followers
intrigue me the most.
Where'd you get a hat made
that says "paedophile hunter"?
Um, this was a gift
from my girlfriend,
who I also met through CPP.
She got it for my birthday,
but she also volunteers.
Well, you know what they say,
a couple that hunts together
stays together.
Ha-ha!
I think that's true.
People are obsessed with you.
Like, I've had people
message me now.Mm-hm.
They call you a cult leader.
That's why we make
the shirts and stuff.
That's why we did that.
Why is it that accusation,
out of all the accusations
you could throw at someone
Because they said that
people would come over here
and they wouldn't leave,
you know, they wouldn't leave.
I think it's because,
like I tell everybody everything,
they feel invested.
Uh, man, this is going
to be such a good catch.
He'd better show.
Do you ever get,
like, a sense of like that,
that he doesn't know that right now,
his whole life's about to change.
That's right, that's right.
And right now, we're
driving at a cruising speed.
My man's driving with one hand,
just chilling.
Yeah.And we're about to go
and just change his whole life.
It's a distinct feeling
that the predator has become prey,
and it's always butterflies
in my stomach, just feeling that.
He could be in any one
of those four bedrooms.
PHONE LINE RINGS
Hello?
It's Tommy with
Colorado Ped Patrol.
How are you doing, bud?
What I do is I talk to people who
try to meet with children online.
I haven't called the police,
but I would like to talk to you.
National, bro.
We're going to put you on Telemundo.
Uh, CNN.I'm serious, man.
I'm kidding about Telemundo, bro.
Uh, possibly. Yeah.
I mean, this is the
least of your problems, bro.
You could have the
police at your door,
and then you'd be in trouble.
I just want to talk to you.
We'll see you in five minutes.
All right.Bye.
He's pretty good.
Yeah, you're definitely, um
..you're definitely an expert
at what you're doing.
Are we on live here?
Is that him right there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't do anything wrong.
You said right here, you said,
"You just turned 13. Girl,
you going to get me locked up."
For what?
What are you going
to get locked up for?
I know you're flipping out, bro, but
it's really, like, you created this.
I understand what I did wrong.
I get it.
Who could we talk to
make sure this really, truly
never happens again?
I would really like to talk
to baby mama, to be honest.
What are you looking for?
I just want to make sure
you don't do this again.
Yeah, it's really more
about accountability.
It's not a reaction
That's what we're looking for.
Hello.PHONE: Hello.
Hi, baby.Hi, baby.
I got some, uh, disappointing news,
and, uh, I'm not proud of it,
and I'm sorry.
Calling his baby mama.
I was on a dating site. She was 13.
INDISTINC
No, no, I didn't.
I didn't have sex.
No, he didn't, he didn't, ma'am.
My name is Tommy with
Colorado Ped Patrol.
He tried to set up a meet
with a girl that said she was 13.
PHONE: How recent was this?
Just this second. Right now.
PHONE: Wow.
I'm sorry, baby, I'm sorry.
PHONE: You know what? Fuck you!
Don't ever contact me again,
and I'm filing for
full custody of our son.
I'm sorry, man.
I mean, you're sorry,
but look what you're doing
to her and your baby.
Now, I got to work
on everything with her now,
if that's even possible.
ImagineI didn't want to
ruin everything for my son, man.
Listen, man. Imagine,
imagine this child's parent.
Think about you.I'm sorry.
You're right. I'm so sorry.
I can't stop you.
You can do whatever you want, man.
Have a nice day.
Hey, man, don't go on the
internet for the kids, all right?
How do you think that went?
It's sad, man.
It'swhen you do this,
you don't only hurt,
you know, the one person,
you hurt the whole family.
You know what I mean?
You hurt the whole family.
Now, you got baby mama, right?
You got
Who said he's working it out with.
Busy, busy. How are you?
So I'm Tommy with
Colorado Ped Patrol.
OK.
If you want to take a look at that.
All righty.
You got your ID with you?
I sure do.
OK.
OK, yeah.
Do you feel they're with you
or against you, the police?
Um, always against at first.
You think they're against you?
At first, yeah.
We get a lot of reaction
Why do you think they
don't want you doing this?
Because we're not law enforcement,
you know?
Um
Well, they do watch videos out
there where, you know,
people do have
bad interactions, right?
Like, they think we're
putting people in danger,
which that couldthat
could have got dangerous. Right?
Watching from Dublin, Ireland.
What's going on,
Pauline, how are you?
I'm gonna jump off
here real quick, guys.
Uh, but we got a catch tomorrow.
See you guys.
I'll leave this up a
little bit for you guys, too.
Bye.See you.
What do you think's going
through his head now?
He was definitely scared.
Yeah.
He was almost going to fall over.
As I entered the world
of online hunting,
I thought I'd be immersing myself
in the world of rivals,
niche fame, money and
a complex conversation of ethics.
Asking questions on the moral
nature of vigilantism
and finding out if the hunters
are the voice for the voiceless.
What I found, especially in the
case of Tommy and his followers,
are a group who seemed to find peace
in what looks to me like chaos.
Do people find catharsis
in the thing that caused them the
most pain, and does it heal them?
The true answer to those
questions is I don't know.
It never ends.No.
It's never, it never ends.
It will be slammed busy
as soon as you guys leave.
Watch, it's just the
way it goes, you know?
I enjoy it.
I know you do, I know you do.
I can tell.
I know it makes you happy,
what you're doing.
I hope you don't do this forever.
Yeah.Like I've done it for a week,
and I think I'm done.
Yeah?Yeah.
Yeah, I think I'm retiring.
Was this the guy you're going after?
Yeah, but I'll show you also.
Um
OK, soIs your phone just full
of paedophiles?
Yeah, I got a lot of dick pics on
there, and, like, none of them
are mine, soIt's just a phone
full of paedophiles, right.
Vigilante groups trying to expose
child sex predators are popping
up all over the United States.
What's driving people to join fringe
subcultures and communities?
You guys want to see a predator
get caught?
I think I've done about 20 films,
and I think this is the worst
stuff I've heard.
And what do their leaders promise?
You're live with 300 people.
I'm immersing myself in fringe groups
to understand the real
motivations behind their beliefs.
I mean, there's no race,
gender, age.
It could be anybody,
any income, anything.
I'm in America, where the world
of online paedophile hunting
I think I'd be a good hunter.
..and shocking livestreamed stings
are attracting millions.
Watching from Dublin, Ireland.
Bringing fame and money
to its frontmen.
He's a wild horse, he's a hero.
What's making them take the law
into their own hands?
Come on, man.
And are the hunters doing it for
the people they claim to protect
For the price of only one
pumpkin spice latte a month,
you can watch these videos.
..or are they doing it
for themselves?
This is a whole heap of madness.
I was talking to my boy today
and I was like, "what am I doing?"
He goes, "I don't know what
you're doing."
He goes, "why are you doing that?"
I don't know what I'm doing
with my life.
Should have just been a plumber.
Innit? We should have just
been plumbers.
I'm in Broomfield, Colorado to meet
Tommy Fellows
..who is fast becoming America's
most prolific predator hunter.
Hey, what's up, man?
How's it going, man?
Nice to meet you.Nice to meet you,
I'm Tommy.
Nice to meet you, man,
nice to meet you.
So, what's going on?
So today we actually have
19 people that flew in
from across the United States
to catch a 32-year-old
who's going to meet with
a 13-year-old.
And he's on his way now.
Uh, yeah, he'll be there in about
five minutes, so
Great.Cool, let's go.
We are live.
Tommy has amassed thousands
of followers, and some of them
have flown thousands of miles
to watch a capture up close.
So, what are you doing?
We're watching him live, then
we're going to walk over.OK.
The decoy's on the phone
with the pred.
So the pred's in the area?Yeah.
Backed in like a sneaky little shit.
I'm going to have to do it.
Tommy's running over, so.
Yeah.
Let's snag and bag him, baby.
I'm not going to call the police,
I just want to talk to you.
Can you roll the window down?
But you're the predator, I should be
the one worried, right?
I live in the same town as you, bro.
How many times have you met
with a 13-year-old?
This was going to be the first time?
It's going to be the last time, too.
Why are you recording it now?
I just want it, I want to see it.
I want to have it,
cos I'm here this time.
It's personal.
Is this your first in person
In person.OK.
My very first in person.
Oh, it's your first one?Yes.
It's a high.
When you watch them get caught on
the screen, yeah, it's great.
This is so awesome to see it
in person.
All right, guys, we got
a bunch of people here.
I appreciate you guys, much love.
I'm jumping off.
Love you guys.
Peace!
Hey, Tommy, how do you think
it went?
Uh, went all right.
When you're walking over,
how do you feel?
I just needed to get to him
as fast as I could.
Because if I can talk to him,
let him know we're not here
to hurt you, man, we don't even have
to call the cops
if you're honest with us, whatever.
Just try to get him to stay.
When you say, "I won't call
the cops?"I say I don't have to.
And, you know, I never have
called the cops.
Oh, really?No, it's other people
calling for me.
But you know what I mean,
it's just tricking them, you know?
How does it feel, like all of these
people and they've come
from different states?
It's definitely heart-warming, man,
it's amazing.
All of us together like this,
this isit's pretty amazing, so.
Yeah, I love it.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Tommy's relatively new to the
paedophile hunting business.
He set up Colorado Ped Patrol,
or CPP, just three years ago
and has carried out nearly 400
stings and got 40 convictions
across the states.
I'm at his home,
which is also the group's HQ.
Hey, man, how you doing?
What's up, brother, how you doing?
This is my little office
where I do everything.
This is where the magic happens?
This is where the magic happens.
You got a lot of stuff here.
Football memorabilia.
Oh, you're a football fan?
I sell it.
Oh, you sell it as well?
Get some money, yeah.
So do you make money off
the pred hunting?
I do.Donations?It used to be
YouTube used to be huge.
So from, like, pred hunting on
YouTube, how much could you make?
Probably 100,000 a year.
That's crazy.Yeah.
Why do you think so many people
watch it?
People like to see predators
get taken off the street.
When I saw it, I couldn't stop
watching it, man, because I went
through it ten years ago, you know,
somebody real close to me.
So people get to see how many
predators are actually
in this little small area.
Yeah, it's obviously dangerous.
Yeah.Because you're putting
yourself in a conflict?Absolutely.
Two predator catchers have already
been shot, one was killed.
Really?Yeah.
This is my catch for tomorrow.
Oh, OK.
It's a 44-year-old going
for a 13-year-old.
It's weird because it's like, I
I don't know what I expect them
to look like.
Yeah.Do you know, I
First I expected him to look like
aA nonce?You know, I had
Yeah.Yeah, yeah, you expect him
to look like that.
Yeah, no, they're not, yeah,
it's wild sometimes, you know,
you catch guys showing up in suits
and you would never expect it.
What's this photo here?
Which one?The Jesus.
That's So one of our trolls
did that,
so we made a picture of it
and framed it.
This is Captain,
this is my buddies.
And that's you?Yeah.
Do you know what's madness as well,
is when you realise
someone really took time,
that don't take ten minutes.
No, no, they dedicate themselves.
I understand they're trolls,
but why a photo of you as Jesus?
They used to say cult shit,
you know?
Would you say it's a cult?
Would you say it is?
I would say no.
I make the final decision.
But it's a group effort
to get to that decision.
What Tommy offers to his followers
is a chance for them
to get involved in the hunts.
All right, everybody,
welcome to CPP decoy training.
He trains people to find
predators online.
Decoy persona.
This is possibly the most
important part of your decoy.
Remember that you are a teenager.
You will have to think and speak
like a teenager.
The use of emojis and internet
jargon is essential,
along with poor punctuation
at times.
Once decoys find a target,
there's a core group of supporters
who find their whereabouts.
What's going on, guys,
what you got going on?
Oh, we are looking up a scumbag.
Yeah?Yeah.What do you think
makes a good hunter?
I think it's somebody who wants
to solve a puzzle.
Being able to think outside the box.
Yes.So it's like a murder mystery,
but you get to do something good?
I think I'd be a good hunter.
I think, I think
You sit down, I'll get up.
Yeah.
Do you think that there will ever be
a time this will be your jobs?
Because, Tommy, this is like
his job, from the donations,
make money, whatever and can
support himself off of it.
Yeah.Is there a sort of idea
to make it so everyone
can support themselves?
Mm-hm.Um
I know it's what Tommy wants.
It's what Tommy wants.
He wants it to be able to pay us.
If you look at like the criticisms
people have
Yeahit would be that
he gets paid and you guys don't.
Well, people think he makes
all this money, he doesn't.
Do you guys put your own money
into it?
Oh, yeah, thousands of dollars.
Wow.Yeah.
It's OK because it's all
about the mission.
We do all this for the kids.
We chose Tommy to do this for
because he's the guy
that we're like, oh, man, if I were
to do it, that's exactly
how I would do it.
When you were young, did you always
want to be some type
of investigator or some type of spy?
Because it's kind of like,
it's very particular skills.
I wanted to be a rock star
when I was younger.OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're a little bit far off.
Yeah!
Being a newcomer to the world of
online hunting, Tommy's attracted
the attention of rival hunters.
Pull up straight ahead,
I just like
Like Alex Rosen, who heads up
the Houston based organisation
called Predator Poachers.
Hey, Tommy, I got a call from 2005,
they want your Ecko hoodie back.
This is how immature they are.
Says the guy that's worn the same
jacket two months in a row.
Really? Really?Yeah.
Cos I think I have about seven
or eight of these.
I don't wear the same clothes,
buddy.
This is the shit Alex does.
But, Tommy, you called me
a paedophile, so address it.
Address it.
He's a fucking loser idiot!
He's crossing the line.
Started what?
What did I say that wasn't true
about you, name one thing?
You said my kid's retarded,
you said my wife's a fucking man.
You called me a pedo.
You're a racist piece of
I'm smarter than you.
Well, he has a gun
on him, bro.
Dude, dude, you have a gun, dude?
Of course I got a gun,
you got three people.
You by yourself,
come out of that car.
And do what?
We're going to fucking square up.
Right, let me take off my seat belt.
Rock your world, bro.
Where do you want to do it?
We can go to the park and do it!
I'm crossing state lines to meet
Tommy's predator-catching
nemesis, Alex Rosen.
An activist on the
Libertarian right.
Alex set up Predator Poachers
five years ago.
We're doing it with the police
right here, OK?
His online fame blew up
at a political rally
when he had a few choice words
for Hillary Clinton.
CHANTING
Is this really necessary?
Is this really necessary, guys?
Is this really necessary?
Alex has racked up close to 100
convictions in 40 states so far.
Follow us on Facebook.
Yes, middle-aged white lady who
doesn't know what Rumble or Locals
is and doesn't know how to click a
link. Follow us on Facebook. Ooh!
And his method of revealing
incriminating details
Be the uncle to the kid.
..along with his right-wing
politics
CHANTING OVER MEGAPHONE:
Baby killers!
..appeals to thousands, who each
pay monthly subscriptions
to watch his videos online.
Consider becoming a mem-ber
in the pinned comment.
And if you want to see this video
uncensored and early,
you could have just became
a mem-ber in the pinned comment.
Alex has invited me along
to his next catch, so we've travelled
four states from Colorado
to meet him at his current hotel
in Huntington, Indiana.
KNOCKING AT DOOR
How's it going? Nice to meet you.
Looking for a paedophile hunter.
JAMALI LAUGHS
I'm right here. Right here.
Can we come in?Absolutely.I don't
want to film in the corridor.
People get creeped out by cameras.
I'm sure you know.Yes, yes.
What have you been getting up to?
Well, we catch online
child predators.
I'm 23 years old right now. Started
doing this when I was 19.You're 23?
Yeah, I know, dude. The hairline.
But, you know.Yeah, yeah.
You got to think of all
the dick pics I've seen
in the past couple of years.Yeah.
It'll age a guy!
It would stress anyone out!Right,
exactly.What did you do before?
I've always wanted to be a police
officer.Oh, you wanted to be a cop?
Yeah, I've always wanted to do that.
Why didwhy did you
Why did you not be a cop?
So at 19 years old,
you had to be 21 to graduate
the academy.
Ah.So I've always wanted
to be that person catching
the bad guys. So I saw an
opportunity to do it through that.
Would you be a cop now, then?
Well, I do want to run for office
one day.No shit!
Yeah, I do.
Under what platform?
The platform would absolutely be
tightening the laws on child
predators. And the other platform
would just be slashing taxes
because I hate paying taxes.
So, I mean, I think a lot of people
canProtect the kids,
slash the tax.Yeah,
protect the kids, slash the tax.
You might win on that platform,
to be fair.Exactly.
And so this is my first up close and
personal hunt.OK.
What should I expect?
I mean, there's no race,
gender, age.
It could be anybody, any income,
anything.
Do you get excited?Do I get excited
about doing this?Yeah.
It's the funnest thing in the world.
I think we're ready to go.Yeah.
Do you wear a bulletproof vest
or anything?
Oh, I should, but I don't.Just
shorts.Yeah.Just shorts and a tee.
I'm just a package delivery guy!
Is this your crew?
This is the crew, yeah.
How you doing, bro?How you doing?
I'm good, man.
Let's go head out, man.All right.
Alex views his work as a stepping
stone to political office,
which makes Tommy Fellows
the opposition.
I have fun just playing
the mental game with Tommy.
And it's like verbal jujitsu,
you know what I'm saying?
It's not just any one group has the
right to go save children.Yeah.
It should be everybody.
I mean, we put in a shit
ton of work.
I mean, we like to say we travel
the most, catch the sickest.
We're not just on dating apps,
just trying to find people.
We're trying to find the child
porn traders.
And I think that separates us
from other channels.
How come you don't just get evidence
and take it straight to the police?
Well, I think it just sits it on
a desk for months and months,
or even years. But if we call the
police to the spot,
it just puts the ball in their
court immediately.
When these predators admit
to something like child porn, well,
boom, they can't ignore that.
So we have this next catch
here in Franklin.
So he thinks the girl is coming
to his house.
He says he's getting Taco Bell
right now.
So bringing alcohol and Taco Bell.
Are you going to eat the Taco Bell?
We'll see.
Depends how the catch goes.
OK, he's leaving Taco Bell
right now.
In the next two minutes.
WHISPERING:Oh, he's parking
right there.
Excited?I am excited.
Oh, there he is.
Heads down, heads down.
He's getting shit out of the back
right now.
How old does he think she is?11.
WHISPERING: Fucking hell.
Hey, stop right there.
Got any weapons on you?
Uh, got a knife.
Mind if you just drop that knife,
please?
Thank you.
Do you mind if we just go and have
a talk over there?
They can quit filming me.
Yeah, you can just face that way.
Don't matter.
So do you ideally know what I'd come
to talk to you about today?
No, I'mnot real sure.
I meanOK.
I'm just here to talk, man.
That's all.
So who was all that food for?
A girl.OK.
How old did she tell you she was?
Um15.
So some of these messages here,
I mean
I think you can kind of help
with this.
There's people on Telegram
that I've heard are pretty
crazy on there.Yeah.
There have been groups
that you've been in that people
Like, bad apples have posted
that stuff, but youYeah.
But you peaced out of there.
Oh, yeah.
I obviously know this is not
something you condone
Oh, she's probably going to call
She's probably going to call
the cops.
We're going to just walk off the
property
just so we're all kosher here.
You want to talk in the car?
OK. Is this a conversation
we could continue at home?
Here, let's get the camera guys
away.
I'm just simply here to talk to you.
This is your opportunity to actually
not get looped into these people.
I'd rather just talk to you, man.
All right. Well, they're not filming
right now.
Oh, my fucking God.
Guys, you got to get out of the way
when he says to fucking
not film, dude. You just got to
move out of the way.
Like, he's looking at you the whole
fucking time, bro.
Oh, my God.
Are you talking to us?Huh?
Are you talking about our camera?
No, dude.Oh!
They were just Like, guys.
When he's already giddy
about the camera,
just don't stick it in his face
when he's just in the car.
Just move away.
The audio is still picking it up.
Hey, Alex. It was a bit confusing.
What happened?
He was literallyjust started
talking about the child porn groups
he was in, and then the fucking
manager just comes and says,
"By the way, there's no filming."
I mean, oh, my God, dude.
Then they just spooked him and he
just walked away.
It seems like it's pissed you off.
Yeah, it really did.
I mean, fucking white woman
You can put this in
the fucking documentary.
White women can't keep their grimy
fucking hands out of anything.
If you see people minding their own
business, leave it the fuck alone!
That is my message
and official statement.
Endorsed by me, myself and I.
Do you want that on a plaque or?
Yes.
LAUGHTER
That is literally the Karen manager
coming in and just fucking getting
this guy spooked, bro.
It's not just about bringing
predators to justice.
Stings that don't end in a catch
aren't popular with viewers,
and that could affect subscriptions.
So you think the sting went good?
No, I fucking don't.
JAMALI CHUCKLES
Hi, there. I'm Skeet Hansen,
and welcome
to another captivating episode.
There's one catcher with
more followers than almost
any pred hunter in the US.
Damn, I look good.
He's a YouTube star
..whose stings combine high
production values
It's your boy Skeet Hansen,
back at it again.
..hidden cameras
and a cast of extras.
What's going on?
Looks like you made
the naughty list.
And he's racked up
millions of views thanks
to his prankster hunting style.
You've just been Skeeted in 4K.
Skeeted in 4K.
Skeeted in 4K.
KNOCKING
Skeeter Jean.Welcome to my crib.
Thank you!
You've got a nice yard!
This is my living room.
This is where I, uh, do my living.
Here we got, like, my studio
Oh, this is the bit where you do the
interview bit.Exactly.
You do the, "Hi."I'm Skeet Hansen.
"I'm Skeet Hansen."Exactly.
"You've been Skeeted."In 4K.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.Yep!
What'd you work as before?
I was actually working for a bank,
processing mortgage loans.
This is different to that.
Do you make more doing this
than you did doing finance?
Oh, absolutely.Are you rich?
Um, rich?
Some people may consider me as such,
but I like to stay humble.
Yeah?Yeah.
You know?Are you a millionaire?
I'm not a millionaire.
No, we're not there yet.
Can you tell me roughly
how much you make?So maybe
So maybe not.
I mean, uh, enough to support
myself.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that could be
That could be 20,000.
It's in the six-figure range.
OK. Hundreds of thousands.Yeah.
OK.Yeah.Sick, that's cool.
Man, I might start pedo hunting.
You got a million subscribers?
I do. Just surpassed a million.
That is my YouTube plaque.
The gold plaque.
Is that a prized possession?
Oh, it is, absolutely. Yeah.
Vid ideas? "Pred My Pride".
Pred My Ride.
That's like a spin-off of
Pimp My Ride, where we would go
to a predator, and he has a really
beaten down car.Yeah.
And we would act like we're trying
to give him a free touch up
on his ride.OK.
It's not really a punishment, then,
is it?
Well, no. It is, because the stuff
we're going to put in it is going
to be like We're going
to have all the chat logs
and that throughout the car.OK!
So just something crazy like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just branching off into other kinds
of content.OK. Why branch out?
I just need to have something
that's a little more advertiser
friendly.
And it says, "Adam 800"
Oh, those are a couple of friends
that owe me money.
CHUCKLING
You're coming for that paper, innit?
Oh, yeah.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can't be letting that go.
We're more similar than I thought,
you know.
While Skeet is the creative brain
commanding the outfit,
I want to meet his full-time team,
who each have a distinctive role
in the business.
I was actually 15 years old
when I did my first decoy thing.
You were 15 when you?15.
And I was portraying a 13-year-old.
You as a child
Me as a child did it, yeah.
That'snot good.
The first person I actually ever
caught and confronted was someone
that my mom was friends with in
high school.No way!Mm-hm.
That's wild.It is wild, right? Yeah.
A weird school reunion.
SHE LAUGHS
It's an exciting energy.Oh, yeah!
Oh, for sure, man.
It's kind of like It's a buzz,
innit?It's very exciting.
It might get spicy. Do you need me
to hold a gun?
I can hold a gun.
I might have someone right now
who's actually in a wheelchair.
I just found out, Skeet.
I just found out.
I see. Well, we don't discriminate.
Is it a good or bad thing?
People are going to say that video
is fake,
but you really can't make
this shit up.
LAUGHTER
How are we going to get him up
theDon't discriminate!
If he needs help, then you just
literally pick up the wheelchair
and bring him up here.
Even if it's against his will.
We'll just cut it out
from the video.
Well, it soundsOh, wheelchair
guy's still on the line, though.
Is he?He's keeping in contact.
Oh. The GoPros are rolling,
and this guy should be here
in the next ten-ish minutes.
Why don't you just call him, then?
DIAL TONE
Hello?
SING-SONG:Hello?
You might as well start rolling
the GoPro.
With five minutes to go and still no
sign of a potential paedophile,
Skeeter's team are still waiting.
They're less focused on conviction
rates than any other hunters.
But to produce clickbait for
viewers, they still need a target.
I got a question for you, yeah.
Throughout history, we've always
wanted to see things
that we probably shouldn't
that we can kind of mock and enjoy.
Like, I've seen your content.Yeah.
And there is a part of it
Because I know he's a potential
or alleged paedophile, it makes it
easier for me to see him
be pranked, or to see him be put in
an uncomfortable, embarrassing
situation.Absolutely.
BecauseI think everyone
would agree.
If you see a title, "Predator
shows up in a wheelchair to meet
"a 13-year-old girl," you're going
to look at it and think,
"This isn't really my kind of
content, but I've got to find out
"if this is real."
YeahAnd they click it.
Even if you think it's wrong,
you'll watch itSure
..knowing that it's wrong.Yeah.
Just on the basis of,
"I've got to find out
if this is real." You know.
Do you think he will come?
I do. I really do think this guy
will come.
We've been on and off all day.
He just said, "I'm sorry."
Wheelchair guy said "sorry."
He just said sorry. That's it.
He's not coming.
Why can't they just fucking show up?
That's fucking annoying.
All right. It's been a long night
of decoying.
We thought we were going to be
catching this wheelchair guy,
but he's not coming now.
But we got his address,
so we're going to roll up in
..roll up on him tomorrow.
Um, no pun intended.
It's That's where we're at.
You disappointed? You look sad.
I am. It is disappointing, you know.
I want to catch these guys
and teach them
that you can't be out here
doing that.
Actually, throw me that UPS
right there.
This one?Yeah. So, this the one
we've got
This is for the next guy here.
All right.
Oh, you are saying you're a UPS
delivery guy.
Yeah!That'snot believable.
But, um, who gives a fuck?
So far, most of the stings
I've seen haven't gone to plan.
I haven't seen a target be
confronted by a hunter,
so I'm keen to join Alex
on his next catch.
Can you tell me a little bit
about this guy?
He's a guy who's messaging who he
believes to be a 13-year-old girl
asking her for nudes.
And he's showed us groups of
child pornography he was in.
So I think there's a 100% chance
he has it on his phone.
Is it livestreamed?
Um, this one will beyeah.
So say you livestream it,
you put it out.
If you are wrong, then what happens?
Oh, we're not wrong.
No, no, noWe're not
I'm just saying if. I'm saying if.
Well, that would be a one in a
one-ever situation.Mm.
Because it's a guarantee.
God, I'm not worried.
OK.
Alfredo, is this your full-time job?
Yes.
What would you say your job is?
Cameraman for
the Predator Poachers.Yeah.
I was going for school
for construction management.
We started travelling, like,
every month
Yeahso I couldn't go to school.
Oh, you dropped out of school
to do this?
Yeah, we both dropped out
at the same time.
Are you three all best friends?
Yeah, I would call them brothers.
Brothers.
We've been through some
crazy, crazy stuff.
You feel the same, Alfredo?
Yes, sir. Absolutely.
It's a weird thing to do
with your mates.
With my friends, I normally go out
to eat or something.
Oh, we do that, too. But it's just
likeYou know what I mean?
We'll go to a bar.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
All right. Cool, man.
Do you kind of know what I'm here
to talk to you about?No.
OK, so I'm trying to narrow
down some age ranges here.
So what's the common age ranges
you think are in these groups
that they're posting?I have seen
probably 14
The truth probably didn't come
out there.
Realistically, how many times have
you boughtTwice.
You bought child porn twice?
So, that's who sold you that stuff?
Mm-hm.OK.
Jamali.
Oh, man. Could use some
fried pickles.
Can you order a friend pickles
order?
OK. Order the fried pickles!
Freaking starving.
All right.
Do you have a passcode
on your phone?
It's oneBLEEP.
OneBLEEP.OK.
How's it going, sir?Pretty good.
We have a group that catches online
child predators, and we just wanted
to kind of turn that into you guys.
You just basically just got carried
away and just bought some child porn
the past week? OK.
And it was on your phone? OK.
And that's
And your code's oneBLEEP?OK.
Well, that's kind of the gist here.
How do you feel?
He did at one point ask for nudes.
Yeah. Then in person with us
he also admitted she was 13.OK.
He's going to be released from here
because
You are taking his phone, though,
right?Yeah, of course.
Can't obviously charge him with
anything
until we have, like, fact
Of course, yeah.
Have you never dealt with a catching
crew before?
I never have. Heard of it going on,
but it's not super common
around here, soRight.
Like, I'm a comedian, innit?
So, like, you know, I'll make
a joke at a funeral, but there's
something just inherently
depressing about all of this.
You know what I mean, though?
Like, I couldn't do what you do.
It's all very friendly.Yep.
Even when you were talking to him,
it felt friendly.
The cops talking to him,
it feels friendly.
You got to instantly find shit
that you could build a connection
with them with. Then he tells me
more shit. So it is
You've got to groom the groomers.
Yeah.So
All right, guys. Be sure to join up
on Locals in the pinned comment.
Really helps us out. We do travel
the most and catch the sickest.
We are all the way in Michigan
right now from Houston, Texas.
We're from the southern border
to the Canadian border.
Drove a very long way, but we'll go
any distance to get someone sick
like this, hopefully, off the
streets here.
Locals, $8 a month, 70 videos early
and uncensored.
And follow us on Facebook, too.
I'm trying to be separate.
Like, I'm trying to be away from it,
and I'm trying to observe.
But just by the nature of it,
is we're filming the thing.
I'm still weirded out morally.
Like, where do I sit with it?
Because I'm included in the content.
I don't know,
it feels entertainment-y.
The content is important because
there are viewers and then
the viewers equal more money.
But then you hear that stuff
and you go,
"Oh. It's paying for him
to get guys like that who watch
"fucked up stuff."
You know what I mean?
It's stuff I wouldn't even repeat.
We're interrupting this broadcast
to let you know we're going
to Mallie's Sports Bar and Grill.
OK.
I'm going to be trying a taco
challenge there.
How many tacos do you have to eat?
They said two pounds.
I don't think that's It's not
a challenge. It's my fucking lunch.
Two pounds? Yeah.We'll see what
they got.
You're a big dude. You'll be fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.Peace.
It feels uncomfortable, how normal
it's become. Like, we're literally
going from here to go eat
two pounds of tacos.
Do you know what I mean?
Where I feel like I need aI need
to wash this off.
You know what I mean?
Three,
two,
one, go.
I've spent a few weeks with hunters
now.
Do you always eat a big meal
after catching?
But I'm even more confused
by their motives,
whether it's about justice
or entertainment.
I'm here in Broomfield, Colorado
with your husband.
He didn't want to call you, but
he's here at the Walmart to pick
up the 14-year-old boy.
I'm sorry.
I've come to talk to Tommy about how
the hunting world is changing.
The media's questioning
their methods, and the targets
are starting to fight back.
Already one of them
tried to stab him.
Hello?
Yes.
OK, perfect.
I will do it. Thank you.
Bye.
We've got our deadline today for
thebeing sued by the predator.
You're being sued?Yeah, and our
deadline for response is today.
How many charges has occurred
during the time of being a hunter?
It's the first time I've ever been
sued.Uh-huh.
I've been threatened before,
a couple of times,
but this is the first time
it's actually happened.
Charges directly related to this,
too, I think.
Yeah.Because I was targeted by
a certain police department, but
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't prove that.
So probably two charges.
And I'm going to win this.
Yeah, it just sounds stressful
for me, man.
Yeah, it can be.It sounds mad.
I enjoy it.Yeah.Yeah.
I can tell you enjoy it. Yeah.
Tommy's called his faithful
together from across America
to celebrate their recent
conviction successes.
I'm interested in finding out
what draws them to Tommy.
What is it particularly about Tommy
as opposed to the other groups
that you were drawn to?
Well, this guy's cleaning up
our neighbourhood.
This guy's making it literally safer
for my kids to be here.
Um, he just earned my respect
right from the start.
Some people here have flown
over from other states.Yeah.
Why do you think that they're drawn
to how Tommy does it
as opposed to the other ones?
If you watch him,
you can see what he's doing.
He's not in this just for the clout.
You know?
He's got aDo you think there
are people that are in it
just for clout?Maybe.Yeah.Maybe.
Either way, I don't look down on it,
because what they're doing
is a good thing.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's God's work.
Thank you, Julie and Tommy,
for what you guys do
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
You kind of followed this person
through a screen
and then it's, like, actually
seeing it in real life.Yeah.
Have your feelings changed about
Tommy?He's a wild horse.
He doesn't run with the pack,
but in a good way.Mm.
He's a hero.Mm.
That's the way I see him.
He's a hero.
It kind of feels a bit likenot
in a negative way, but a celebrity.
Mm-hm.Do you know what I mean,
though?
You're talking about him
like a rock star.
We're invested.I can tell.
We're totally invested, you know?
We're hunting right along with him.
But I'm having a blast.
What about him made you so happy?
I'm a survivor.
FALTERING:And, um,
I really respect Tom.
And feeling vindicated
every time he catches one.Mm.
It's therapy. And I know it is
for so many people.
Do you feel like you've found
a community?
Oh, it's Absolutely.
It's a family.
OK, ready? That's perfect.
ALL: CPP!
APPLAUSE
Speaking with Janie, it's clear
that whilst people may be initially
drawn into the group by
a charismatic frontman, what often
cements their dedication
is a sense of belonging they find
with each other.
Remembering something Tommy said
when we first met, I'm interested
in digging deeper into his own
reasons for doing this.
One question I do want to ask you,
you sort of started to mention
about someone close to you,
something happened.
What happened exactly?
So, somebody very, very close to me
12 years ago now, um,
had this kind of same thing
happen to them.
Immediately, we called the police.
And that's kind of what started
all this.
I still tell people that was my
first catch.
I guess you felt powerless,
and your intention is to protect.
I remember the day when I asked
what happened,
and immediately the fear
in his eyes.
And I see that with the predators
when we catch them.
It's like they see their life
goinglike they're going
to go to jail. And to me,
it's almost like, "Ha-ha,
"you were going to do that
to somebody."
And I know that's probably not good
to think, but I do get satisfaction.
It makes more sense now.
You've seen how it can destroy.
Having that traumatic thing
happen to you.
Talking about it makes you feel
better.
A little better. Yeah, yeah.
They're monsters.
I like to see them scared,
because they deserve it.
But shouldn't be punishing people.
So I'm, like, split, even me.
I'll get hard on them, talking
mean to them. Then I feel bad.
I'm like, "I'm talking to a human
like this."
And so I do struggle with it
a little bit.
It sounds like your life's
confusing.For sure!
Yeah, that's no joke.Is that good
for you and is that sustainable?
It helps me more than it doesn't,
I would say.
I get tonnes of mail and stuff.
Somebody will reach out to me
and say, "Hey, you know,
"watching your videos helped me
cope through my thing."
I get a lot of satisfaction
knowing that.
Or people will say, "I wish you guys
were there when I was younger."
But if it helps one, and we know
we have, it would be worth it.
As I come to the end of my time
with paedophile hunters,
Skeet has been in touch.
He's managed to film his sting
with the wheelchair target.
If you want to see the footage
we got, I canI'd love to!
..walk you a bit through that. Yeah.
My name's Doyle from
Prestige Worldwide Press.
Oh, we just wanted
to interview you
about all of your accomplishments
He doesn't seem very smart.
And he's in a wheelchair.
VIDEO:We're doing a documentary,
basically about the hardships
of being, you know, people
being in wheelchairs and whatnot.
So and we know
At this point, he seems to be
buying the whole thing.
You think he believes you?
A little bit.
You know, just basically
just quick interview with you.
Would that be OK?
This would be your picture, right?
One of them, yeah?
Umand it looks like
Seem to be enjoying it.
It'sit's fun.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
You're definitely gonna
be famous, for sure.
A 13-year-old girl that
you've been talking to.
Yeah.
Are you trying to not laugh?
Uh, I'm trying to.
What is it about it
that you find funny?
Like, what's the payoff?
I guess, like, it's like the
whole logic of the scenario,
like what's actually going on.Mm.
It's fucking ridiculous.It is.
Yeah.Like,
I gotta be honest with you,
I'm trying to watch
this objectively.
It's fucking mad
what's happening here.
Yeah.This is a whole
heap of fucking madness.
Keep wheeling and dealing, I guess.
Well, oror don't.
Like, I think sometimes
because you do it so much,
you've become desensitised
to how mad this is.
Yeah.And do you ever worry
that it's going
to get out of hand too much?
Um, I mean, there's so
many different avenues
where this content
can be, like, approached.
Yeah.So I think it's
I've got a good long while
before it would get to that point.
Cos this is crazy to me.
Yeah, exactly.
If you're not used it
I'm not used to this.
So this for me is like,
this is wild.
BANJO MUSIC PLAYS
Cool, cool.
All right, so basically what's
happened is, um, I was sleeping,
um, and then I got
a phone call from the producer,
and she's rang me up,
and she says, "Get up.
"Get up." I said, "Wh-What?"
And I said, "What's going on, then?"
It's not a thing
that's nice to wake up to,
just knowing
you've got to go on a sting.
Out of everyone
I've spent time with on this trip,
Tommy and his followers
intrigue me the most.
Where'd you get a hat made
that says "paedophile hunter"?
Um, this was a gift
from my girlfriend,
who I also met through CPP.
She got it for my birthday,
but she also volunteers.
Well, you know what they say,
a couple that hunts together
stays together.
Ha-ha!
I think that's true.
People are obsessed with you.
Like, I've had people
message me now.Mm-hm.
They call you a cult leader.
That's why we make
the shirts and stuff.
That's why we did that.
Why is it that accusation,
out of all the accusations
you could throw at someone
Because they said that
people would come over here
and they wouldn't leave,
you know, they wouldn't leave.
I think it's because,
like I tell everybody everything,
they feel invested.
Uh, man, this is going
to be such a good catch.
He'd better show.
Do you ever get,
like, a sense of like that,
that he doesn't know that right now,
his whole life's about to change.
That's right, that's right.
And right now, we're
driving at a cruising speed.
My man's driving with one hand,
just chilling.
Yeah.And we're about to go
and just change his whole life.
It's a distinct feeling
that the predator has become prey,
and it's always butterflies
in my stomach, just feeling that.
He could be in any one
of those four bedrooms.
PHONE LINE RINGS
Hello?
It's Tommy with
Colorado Ped Patrol.
How are you doing, bud?
What I do is I talk to people who
try to meet with children online.
I haven't called the police,
but I would like to talk to you.
National, bro.
We're going to put you on Telemundo.
Uh, CNN.I'm serious, man.
I'm kidding about Telemundo, bro.
Uh, possibly. Yeah.
I mean, this is the
least of your problems, bro.
You could have the
police at your door,
and then you'd be in trouble.
I just want to talk to you.
We'll see you in five minutes.
All right.Bye.
He's pretty good.
Yeah, you're definitely, um
..you're definitely an expert
at what you're doing.
Are we on live here?
Is that him right there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't do anything wrong.
You said right here, you said,
"You just turned 13. Girl,
you going to get me locked up."
For what?
What are you going
to get locked up for?
I know you're flipping out, bro, but
it's really, like, you created this.
I understand what I did wrong.
I get it.
Who could we talk to
make sure this really, truly
never happens again?
I would really like to talk
to baby mama, to be honest.
What are you looking for?
I just want to make sure
you don't do this again.
Yeah, it's really more
about accountability.
It's not a reaction
That's what we're looking for.
Hello.PHONE: Hello.
Hi, baby.Hi, baby.
I got some, uh, disappointing news,
and, uh, I'm not proud of it,
and I'm sorry.
Calling his baby mama.
I was on a dating site. She was 13.
INDISTINC
No, no, I didn't.
I didn't have sex.
No, he didn't, he didn't, ma'am.
My name is Tommy with
Colorado Ped Patrol.
He tried to set up a meet
with a girl that said she was 13.
PHONE: How recent was this?
Just this second. Right now.
PHONE: Wow.
I'm sorry, baby, I'm sorry.
PHONE: You know what? Fuck you!
Don't ever contact me again,
and I'm filing for
full custody of our son.
I'm sorry, man.
I mean, you're sorry,
but look what you're doing
to her and your baby.
Now, I got to work
on everything with her now,
if that's even possible.
ImagineI didn't want to
ruin everything for my son, man.
Listen, man. Imagine,
imagine this child's parent.
Think about you.I'm sorry.
You're right. I'm so sorry.
I can't stop you.
You can do whatever you want, man.
Have a nice day.
Hey, man, don't go on the
internet for the kids, all right?
How do you think that went?
It's sad, man.
It'swhen you do this,
you don't only hurt,
you know, the one person,
you hurt the whole family.
You know what I mean?
You hurt the whole family.
Now, you got baby mama, right?
You got
Who said he's working it out with.
Busy, busy. How are you?
So I'm Tommy with
Colorado Ped Patrol.
OK.
If you want to take a look at that.
All righty.
You got your ID with you?
I sure do.
OK.
OK, yeah.
Do you feel they're with you
or against you, the police?
Um, always against at first.
You think they're against you?
At first, yeah.
We get a lot of reaction
Why do you think they
don't want you doing this?
Because we're not law enforcement,
you know?
Um
Well, they do watch videos out
there where, you know,
people do have
bad interactions, right?
Like, they think we're
putting people in danger,
which that couldthat
could have got dangerous. Right?
Watching from Dublin, Ireland.
What's going on,
Pauline, how are you?
I'm gonna jump off
here real quick, guys.
Uh, but we got a catch tomorrow.
See you guys.
I'll leave this up a
little bit for you guys, too.
Bye.See you.
What do you think's going
through his head now?
He was definitely scared.
Yeah.
He was almost going to fall over.
As I entered the world
of online hunting,
I thought I'd be immersing myself
in the world of rivals,
niche fame, money and
a complex conversation of ethics.
Asking questions on the moral
nature of vigilantism
and finding out if the hunters
are the voice for the voiceless.
What I found, especially in the
case of Tommy and his followers,
are a group who seemed to find peace
in what looks to me like chaos.
Do people find catharsis
in the thing that caused them the
most pain, and does it heal them?
The true answer to those
questions is I don't know.
It never ends.No.
It's never, it never ends.
It will be slammed busy
as soon as you guys leave.
Watch, it's just the
way it goes, you know?
I enjoy it.
I know you do, I know you do.
I can tell.
I know it makes you happy,
what you're doing.
I hope you don't do this forever.
Yeah.Like I've done it for a week,
and I think I'm done.
Yeah?Yeah.
Yeah, I think I'm retiring.