Kindred Spirits (2016) s01e01 Episode Script
Terror in the Forest
1 I WOULD SWEAR I SAW SOMEBODY OUT THERE STANDING AGAINST ONE OF THE TREES.
[ GASPS .]
ADAM! I SAW SOMETHING MOVE.
I DID, TOO.
DO YOU WATCH FROM THE WOODS? WHOA! WHAT IS YOUR NAME? ACCIDENT.
SHE DIED WHEN SHE WAS 3.
OH, GOD.
THERE WAS A HUGE SPINNING BLADE AND SHE WALKED INTO THAT BLADE.
-- Captions by VITAC -- I'M AMY BRUNI.
AND I'M ADAM BERRY.
WE'VE SPEN A COMBINED 30 YEARS INVESTIGATING THE WORLD'S MOST TERRIFYING HAUNTINGS.
AFTER THOUSANDS OF CASES, WE ARE READY FOR OUR MOST IMPORTANT JOURNEY YET.
[ BOTH GASP .]
RESCUING FAMILIES TERRORIZED BY PARANORMAL ACTIVITY IN THEIR OWN HOMES.
WE UNCOVER THE TRUTH BEHIND THE HAUNTING TO HELP FAMILIES RECLAIM THEIR HOMES THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND THEIR LIVES.
CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS BASICALLY, CATHERINE LIVES WITH HER DAUGHTER ON THIS MASSIVE PROPERTY, 30-SOME-ODD ACRES, 35 ACRES, I GUESS.
11 YEARS AGO, SHE STARTED HAVING CRAZY EXPERIENCES.
SHE THINKS IT'S HER FAMILY MEMBERS.
OKAY.
BUT THERE ARE EXPLODING LIGHT FIXTURES.
HER DAUGHTER WAS SCRATCHED.
SHE HAS SEEN AN APPARITION OR SOMETHING STANDING BY A TREE STARING AT HER WHILE SHE'S SITTING IN HER HOME.
SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S ENTIRELY HER FAMILY.
I MEAN, SOME OF THAT ACTIVITY SOUNDS DIFFERENT.
ABSOLUTELY.
THERE AREN'T ANY DEATHS IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN '82, '83.
THEY BUILT IT, SO THERE WAS NO HOUSE ON THIS PROPERTY BEFORE THEN.
LOOKING AT THE ADDRESS, THIS PLACE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
NOWHERE.
IT IS ON A LONG ROAD BY ITSELF.
WE ARE NOT WOODSY PEOPLE.
YEAH.
WE NEED TO GET YOU SOME CAMOUFLAGE CARGO SHORTS.
WHAT IF WE WORE CAMOUFLAGE IN THE WOODS? WE WOULD CATCH THE SPIRIT.
THEY WOULDN'T SEE US.
THEY'D BE LIKE [SMACKS LIPS.]
"THAT'S JUST A TREE.
" NO? CHECK, PLEASE.
SOME OF THE ACTIVITY THAT SHE'S EXPERIENCING JUST DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL LIKE IT'S HER FAMILY THAT SHE'S REALLY SET ON IT BEING.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE A LOVING FAMILY MEMBER WOULD SMASH A LIGHT FIXTURE, WAKE YOU FROM YOUR SLEEP.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE ANSWER RIGHT FOR HER.
-HI, GUYS.
-HI! -HI! -ADAM, HI! -MARY.
-MARY.
AMY.
COME ON IN.
I'LL SHOW YOU THE HOUSE.
-AFTER YOU.
-THANK YOU.
WELL, THIS IS NICE.
THANK YOU.
BUILT IT OURSELVES.
AND NOW, IS IT JUST YOU HERE ALL THE TIME? NO, MY DAUGHTER LIVES HERE WITH ME SINCE MY HUSBAND LEFT.
SO IT's JUS THE TWO OF US.
ALL RIGHT.
Berry: SO, WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT YOUR CASE.
BUT WE'D LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT THE ACTIVITY AND ABOUT THINGS, SO TAKE US THROUGH THE HOUSE.
TELL US EVERYTHING.
GIVE US THE HOT SPOTS.
WE DID HAVE AN INCIDEN THAT HAPPENED HERE.
I CAME HOME FROM WORK ONE DAY.
AND THERE WAS GLASS AND WOOD SPLINTERS ALL OVER THE FLOOR HERE.
MARY TOLD ME, UH, THAT SHE HAD BEEN BACK IN THE LAUNDRY ROOM.
SHE HEARD A LOUD CRASH, CAME OUT HERE.
AND THE LIGHT UP THERE HAD BROKEN.
THIS ONE? THE LIGHT WAS THE SAME DESIGN AS THE ONE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS.
OKAY.
THEY WERE, LIKE, A SET, ONLY THIS WAS A SWING LIGHT.
SO THIS WAS SOMETHING? THIS HAD -- THIS WAS SOMETHING? IT WAS, YEAH.
THERE WAS A WOOD BASE ON THE BOTTOM JUST LIKE THE TOP.
AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE WHERE IT'S RIPPED OFF.
Bruni: INTERESTING.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOME FORCE.
THAT WOULD SCARE THE HELL OUT OF ME.
THIS IS THE MASTER BEDROOM.
JUST THIS LAST SATURDAY, I HAD SOMETHING REALLY THAT KIND OF REALLY FREAKED ME OUT.
WHILE I'M LAYING THERE QUIETLY, I HEARD FOOTSTEPS STAR TO COME INTO THE ROOM.
AND I OPENED MY EYES.
AND IT WAS, LIKE, STANDING NEXT TO THE BED, JUST A SMALL FIGURE WATCHING ME SLEEP.
AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I HEARD THIS LOUD BREATHY SIGH IN MY EAR.
WHOLE SIDE OF MY BODY WENT ICE COLD.
THAT'S REALLY STRANGE.
JUST CHILLS FROM HEAD TO TOE.
YEAH, THAT'S TERRIFYING.
THAT WOULD BE ROUGH.
YEAH.
ABOUT A MONTH AGO, MY ONE DAUGHTER CAME TO VISIT.
AND WE WERE STANDING OVER HERE.
AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I WOULD HEAR VOICES COME FROM DOWN THE HALL.
-OKAY, SO IN THAT ROOM THERE? -IT CAME FROM THAT DIRECTION.
YES.
AND MY DAUGHTER LOOKED AT ME.
HER EYES WERE AS BIG AS SAUCERS.
SHE SAID, "DID YOU HEAR THAT?" DID IT SOUND LIKE A RADIO OR A TV, OR DID IT SOUND LIKE PEOPLE TALKING? IT SOUNDED LIKE -- LIKE THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE VOICE.
BUT THEY WERE SORT OF MONOTONE.
WOW.
NOW, THAT WAS THE FIRS TIME ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAD EVER HAPPENED.
THERE WERE TIMES WHERE I'D BE SITTING HERE AND LOOKING OU THE SLIDING GLASS DOOR WHERE I WOULD SWEAR I SAW SOMEBODY OUT THERE STANDING AGAINST ONE OF THE TREES.
I SEE WHAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING PEAKING OU FROM BEHIND THE TREE.
BUT I WAS HESITAN TO SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO FREAK OUT CATHERINE.
IT WAS VERY DARK.
IT WAS DARKER THAN THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
IT'S, LIKE, LOOKING AT US, KIND OF GAUGING WHAT WE'RE DOING AND -- AND I SEE IT CLEAR AS DAY.
HOW CLOSE IS A NEIGHBOR? OH, FROM OUT BACK THERE? QUITE A WAYS OUT THROUGH THE WOODS, DOWN THE HILL.
-HOW MANY ACRES? -I'VE GOT 34.
-OKAY.
-34, 35.
THE TABLE MAKES A VERY DISTINC SOUND WHEN YOU MOVE IT.
-RIGHT.
-I WAS IN THE LIVING ROOM.
AND I HEARD THAT NOISE, THAT CREAK, LIKE SOMEBODY LEANING UP AGAINST THE TABLE.
HERE, I WANT TO SEE.
[ TABLE CREAKS .]
OH, YEAH.
OKAY.
IT GIVES THIS CREAK WHEN YOU MOVE IT.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO MOVE IT HARD.
JUST LEAN AGAINST IT.
ALL RIGHT.
WHAT COULD WE DO FOR YOU? WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GONNA BE THE IDEAL WELL, I THINK A LOT OF IT WAS FAMILY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO FROM THE FAMILY IS HERE.
WHICH OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE PASSED THAT YOU THINK MIGH WANT TO STICK AROUND? WELL, THE -- THE FIRS AND FOREMOST, MY SON.
HIS NAME WAS ADAM.
HE DIED AN INFANT.
WE TALKED ON THE PHONE, AND I'M WONDERING, YOUR -- YOUR DAUGHTER GOT SCRATCHED.
-YES.
-RIGHT.
AND YOU GET SCRATCHED, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WELCOMING.
RIGHT.
AND THAT CONCERNED ME BECAUSE I THOUGHT, "IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE HERE THAT WE DON'T WANT?" WAS MARY FRIGHTENED BY THIS WHOLE THING? UH, YOU'D HAVE TO ASK HER.
WE NEED TO REGROUP AND DISCUSS OUR STRATEGY.
CAN I TELL YOU SOMETHING? YES.
WHEN WE WERE STARING OUT AT THE WOODS, I SAW SOMETHING MOVE IN THE WOODS.
I DID, TOO.
NEXT TO THE TREE RIGHT WHERE SHE SAID.
YES.
RIGHT WHERE SHE SAID.
OKAY, 'CAUSE I DIDN' WANT TO OVERREACT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO FREAK HER OUT.
IT WAS WEIRD 'CAUSE I DIDN'T -- I WASN'T TRUSTING MYSELF COMPLETELY.
YOU STARED, YOU KEP LOOKING AT THAT STOP.
I WAS STARING FOR THE LONGEST TIME.
AND YOU WOULD NOT MOVE.
BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OU IF MY EYES WERE PLAYING TRICKS ON ME.
BUT I WAS LIKE, "I KEEP THINKIN' I'M SEEIN' SOMEBODY, LIKE A SHADOW, PEAK OU FROM BEHIND THAT TREE.
" RIGHT.
EXACTLY.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAW.
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S ON THE PROPERTY BACK THERE.
YES, 100%.
WE HAVE A BILLION LAYERS TO LOOK THROUGH.
SHE REALLY THINKS IT'S HER FAMILY.
BUT THE ACTIVITY THAT SHE'S EXPLAINING ABOUT THE WOODS AND THE LIGHTS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A FAMILY MEMBER AT ALL.
NO, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE FAMILY.
SO I WANT TO TALK TO THE DAUGHTER.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHA THE DAUGHTER'S THINKING.
I WANT TO KNOW WHA THE DAUGHTER'S FEELING.
I MEAN, WE NEED TO FIND OU MORE ABOUT THE SCRATCHES AND WHAT TYPE OF SPIRI WOULD DO THIS BEFORE WE START ANY TYPE OF INVESTIGATION.
SO TOMORROW, WE HAVE TO HIT I VERY, VERY HARD AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHO'S HERE.
SO TELL ME ABOUT THE SCRATCHES, AND WHERE THEY WERE, WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
OKAY.
THE WHOLE STORY OF I IS I FELL ASLEEP DOWNSTAIRS ON THE COUCH WATCHING TV.
WHICH COUCH WAS IT? IT WAS THE COUCH DOWNSTAIRS.
OKAY.
SO YOU WERE SLEEPING THE LIVING ROOM? YEAH.
YEAH.
AND THE NEXT MORNING FROM, LIKE, HERE ON MY LEG TO HERE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, THERE WERE, LIKE SO, LIKE, ABOUT A FOOT? YEAH.
THERE WERE, LIKE, THESE SCRATCHES.
BUT THEY TENDED -- IT WASN' JUST LIKE ONE SCRATCH DOWN.
THEY WERE KIND OF, LIKE, CIRCULAR.
COULD YOU DRAW THEM FOR ME? PROBABLY YEAH.
SAY THIS IS MY LEG.
THEY WERE KIND OF LIKE THIS.
LIKE, IT WASN'T STRAIGHT.
THEY WERE REALLY WEIRD.
OKAY.
DO YOU THINK THA IT'S THE FAMILY MEMBERS? MY MOM ALWAYS THINKS IT'S FAMILY.
BUT HOW SHOULD I PUT THAT? IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE I -- IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE IT REALLY WASN'T FAMILY.
Berry: THE MORE I TALK TO THE FAMILY, THE MORE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DEALING WITH A MUCH DARKER SPIRIT.
WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR TONIGHT'S INVESTIGATION, SETTING UP CAMERAS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE HOUSE.
Bruni: SO, ADAM IS SETTING UP A TRAIL CAM OUT HERE JUST BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY SEEN A SHADOW FIGURE IN THIS AREA.
THE GAME CAMERAS ARE I.
R.
CAMERAS THAT ARE MOTION-ACTIVATED.
SO THEY'RE MEANT FOR, LIKE, SPOTTING WILDLIFE.
SO IF SOMETHING MOVES IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA, IT WILL RECORD FOR ONE MINUTE.
SO IF YOU'RE IN HERE, MY NAME IS ADAM.
THIS IS AMY.
SO WHOEVER'S HERE WITH US, YOU'RE CERTAINLY NOT SHY WHEN CATHERINE IS HERE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SHY AROUND US.
WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TALK TO YOU.
SO, ARE YOU RELATED TO CATHERINE? DID YOU SCRATCH MARY ONCE? IS THERE SOMEONE HERE NAMED ADAM BESIDES THIS ADAM? IS THERE ANOTHER ADAM? JUST GET OUR ATTENTION BY, LIKE, KNOCKING OR WALKING AROUND.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WITH THE LAST NAME [ CREAK .]
IS THAT, THAT TABLE? MM-HMM.
WE NEED TO GO SEE IT.
JUST GET OUR ATTENTION BY, LIKE, KNOCKING OR WALKING AROUND.
Bruni: IS THERE ANYONE HERE WITH THE LAST NAME [ CREAKS .]
IS THAT, THAT TABLE? MM-HMM.
WE NEED TO GO SEE IT.
SO WE THOUGHT WE HEARD A NOISE IN HERE WHICH IS WHY WE MOVED OVER.
MM-HMM.
SO CAN YOU KNOCK ON THIS TABLE OR -- OR MAKE SOME SORT OF SOUND FOR US.
IF YOU'RE NOT RELATED TO CATHERINE, THAT'S OKAY.
SHE JUST WANTS TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S TRY THIS ONE MORE TIME.
AND THEN, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE OTHER ONE.
QUIET.
YOU WANT TO GO INTO THAT OTHER ROOM? THE GUEST ROOM, THE SPARE ROOM? YEP.
YEAH.
I THINK WE SHOULD TRY IT.
[ DOOR CREAKS .]
THIS IS AMY AND ADAM, WE ARE IN CATHERINE'S HOUSE, AND WE ARE IN THE GUEST ROOM WHERE SHE HEARD VOICES.
HAVE YOU BROKEN THINGS IN THE HOUSE BEFORE? WHOEVER'S IN HERE, DO YOU LIKE CATHERINE AND MARY? DO YOU SOMETIMES WATCH FROM THE WOODS AND LOOK INTO THE HOUSE TO WATCH CATHERINE AND MARY? LET'S SEE.
-YES! -OH! WHOA! HMM.
MNH-MNH.
DID YOU HEAR HOW THAT SOUNDED? YEAH.
WHATEVER'S TALKING, IT'S SO LOUD.
BUT ALL THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF MY NECK IS STANDING UP RIGHT NOW.
GOT GOOSE BUMPS ALL OVER.
UGH.
LIKE, IT WATCHES THEM FROM THE WOODS.
Bruni: SO WE BOTH SAW A SHADOW FIGURE IN THE WOODS.
AND NOW, WE HAVE THIS PERSON THAT BASICALLY ADMITTED, IN EVP, IT STARES FROM THE WOODS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SHOW THAT TO CATHERINE.
YEP.
YEAH.
WELL, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO NEXT? I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S ODD.
WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY, LIKE, IT WATCHES THEM FROM THE WOODS.
I KNOW.
I NEED TO GO RESEARCH THE DEED, LAND, SEE WHAT ELSE WAS ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO I'M GONNA GO TO THE LIBRARY.
LET'S PACK UP.
THE ACTIVITY IN THE GUEST ROOM MAKES ME THINK, "WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH A FAMILY MEMBER, BUT SOMETHING ELSE.
" WHILE ADAM'S GOING TO RESEARCH THE LAND'S HISTORY I WANT TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON A PROPERTY THAT IS NEARBY IN LITTLE MEADOWS, PA.
I'M GOING TO TALK TO CATHERINE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT HER EXPERIENCES.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU A FEW MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT CAN HELP US WHEN WE'RE INVESTIGATING.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WERE, LIKE, A FEW, JUST THE BIGGEST THING OR THINGS HERE THAT WERE MAYBE NOT FAMILY, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE DISCONCERTING? UH, WELL, ONE TIME, I WOKE UP DURING THE NIGHT.
AND THERE WAS, LIKE, A SHADOW PERSON JUST WATCHING ME SLEEP.
AND THIS WASN'T THE SIZE OF ANY OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS.
IT WAS MORE LIKE A CHILD.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY OTHER ACTIVITY THAT MIGHT POINT TO, LIKE, A CHILD-TYPE SPIRIT? WE DID.
THERE WAS A LITTLE TOY BLACK & DECKER BENCH HERE ON THE PORCH THAT WAS MY GRANDSON'S.
AND MARY HEARD I MAKING A SOUND.
AND SHE CAME OUT TO LOOK, AND THERE WAS A LITTLE SAW BLADE, AND SHE SAID THAT WAS TURNING.
HMM.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SORT OF A CHILDLIKE-TYPE THING.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF WE CAME BACK AND WE JUST -- WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE IT'S YOUR FAMILY? WELL, SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW ME, WHY WOULD THEY CHOOSE MY HOME? CATHERINE'S VERY INTEN ON THIS BEING HER FAMILY.
BUT A LOT OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT SHE DESCRIBED IS CHILDLIKE.
ADAM WAS ONLY 4 DAYS OLD WHEN HE PASSED AWAY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WOULD BE A CHILD SPIRIT THERE.
I REALLY DON'T.
Berry: IN MY RESEARCH, I HAVE DISCOVERED THAT THE ASHCRAFT FAMILY OWNED THIS LAND BEFORE CATHERINE AND HER FAMILY BOUGHT IT.
I'M GONNA DO A TON OF RESEARCH TO FIND OUT, DID THEY DIE HERE? AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL GET SOME ANSWERS.
OH.
SO FAR WHAT I'VE GOT, UH, FRED ASHCRAFT JR.
, LITTLE MEADOWS, PA.
HE HAD A DAUGHTER.
OH, GOD.
SHE DIED WHEN SHE WAS 3, JUNE 5th, 1942.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DIED.
ACCIDENT.
[ LAUGHS .]
THAT TICKLES! DID THAT BEAR JUST MOVE? WHAT? I DON'T KNOW.
DID IT? THAT BEAR JUST MOVED.
IT'S -- IT, LIKE, ROCKED BACK FURTHER.
I DIDN'T NOTICE IT MOVING.
OR AM I JUST, LIKE, SEEING THINGS? WELL, YOU HAVE THE CAMERA.
SHOULD I LOOK BACK ON THIS THING? YEAH.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND YOU DO, IT'S GONNA SAY IT'S GETTING TOUCHED.
I KNOW.
I MEAN, WE COULD JUST REVIEW IT.
YEAH, LET'S REVIEW IT LATER.
BUT I HONESTLY HAVE NEVER HAD THAT BEAR DO THAT, THAT MUCH.
LET ME SEE HOW HARD I HAVE TO TOUCH IT TO MAKE IT [ LAUGHS .]
THAT TICKLES! I HAD TO SQUEEZE THAT PRETTY HARD.
SO SOMETHING WAS DEFINITELY TOUCHING IT.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S LISTEN NOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
MNH-MNH.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO GO ON.
YEAH.
WE HAVE A FIGURE DOWNSTAIRS THAT MIGHT BE THE ONE WATCHING FROM THE WOODS.
SO THAT'S INTERESTING.
WE CAN CHECK THE TRAIL CAMS.
MM-HMM.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO SAY 100% THAT A LITTLE GIRL IS HERE.
BUT SOMETHING WAS MANIPULATING THE BEAR.
WE SHOULD DEFINITELY CHECK OUT THAT FOOTAGE.
YEAH.
FOR SURE.
DID YOU FIND ANYTHING ON THE TRAIL CAMS? NOTHING.
NOPE.
UH, IT WENT OFF ONCE WHEN I WAS SETTING IT UP AND ONCE WHEN I WAS TAKING IT DOWN.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING REALLY QUICK.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE BEAR UPSTAIRS IN THE MASTER BEDROOM.
AND REMEMBER WHEN I WAS LIKE, "DID THAT BEAR JUST MOVE?" RIGHT.
DID THAT BEAR JUST MOVE? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
DO IT AGAIN.
DID THAT BEAR JUST MOVE? -DID NOT MOVE.
-IT CLEARLY DID NOT MOVE.
I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE REST OF THIS EVIDENCE AND SEE IF I CAN CATCH ANYTHING ELSE.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE CLOSE TO THE SOLUTION ON THIS ONE AT ALL.
AND WE HAVE SO MANY OPTIONS BETWEEN LUCINDA AND FAMILY.
FAMILY, WHATEVER'S OUT IN THE WOODS, WHATEVER'S IN THAT ROOM, I MEAN, ALL OF THAT, WE STILL DON'T HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER AS TO WHAT IS DEFINITIVELY HERE OR IF IT'S ALL OF THE ABOVE.
I'VE GOTTEN NO SENSE THAT HER FAMILY MEMBERS ARE HERE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S RIGHT.
WELL, LET'S INVESTIGATE WITH HER TONIGHT FOR A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH.
GETTING HER IN THERE MIGHT BE THE PUSH WE NEED TO GET THEM TO TALK TO US.
I'M JUST HOPING TONIGH WHEN WE INVESTIGATE, THERE'S JUST SOMETHING THAT TIES IT ALL UP.
THIS IS AMY, ADAM, AND CATHERINE IN CATHERINE'S ROOM.
SO IF ANYONE ELSE IS IN HERE BESIDES US, YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE TRYING TO TALK TO YOU.
AND WE BROUGHT CATHERINE WITH US TONIGHT.
ARE YOU RELATED TO CATHERINE? WHY ARE YOU HERE? HOW OLD ARE YOU? CAN YOU TELL ME WHO YOU ARE? YOU MY FAMILY? IF IT IS YOU, ADAM, I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.
I HEAR YOU EVERY NIGHT IN HERE.
IS THIS A PICTURE OF HIM? YES.
THAT'S HIM.
-HE LOOKS SO SWEET.
-MM-HMM.
ALL RIGHT, BUDDY.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S LISTEN TO THAT.
YEAH.
ARE YOU RELATED TO CATHERINE? NO.
WHY ARE YOU HERE? [ INDISTINCT SPEAKING .]
COME ON.
WHAT IS THAT?! NO.
COME ON.
WHAT IS THAT?! IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE, "ADAM.
" GO BACK.
HE'S SAYING, "ADAM.
" ADAM.
IT'S ADAM.
IT'S TWO SYLLABLES.
TWO SYLLABLES.
THAT IS ADAM.
I MEAN, THAT'S ON TOP OF THE MICROPHONE.
LET'S KEEP GOING.
THAT WAS AN ANSWER.
YEAH.
SOUNDS LIKE 33.
ADAM WOULD BE 33.
REALLY? YEAH.
WAIT.
HE WAS BORN 33 YEARS AGO? YEAH.
-THIRTY-THREE.
-THIRTY-THREE.
Bruni: I WASN'T SURE IF THE FIRST EVP TONIGH WAS REFERRING TO OUR ADAM OR CATHERINE'S SON.
BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE A SECOND EVP POINTING TOWARDS HER SON, IT MAKES ME THINK WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH HIM.
IT'S ANSWERING, "ADAM.
" IT SAID, "33.
" I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR.
I'VE GOT GOOSE BUMPS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S REALLY GREA THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE JUST SOMETHING.
YEAH.
AND YOU GO TO BE THERE FOR THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED IF YOU HADN'T BEEN IN HERE WITH US.
-IT MIGHT NOT OF.
-NO.
-YEAH.
Bruni: GETTING THOSE EVPs WAS INTENSE.
BUT THERE IS STILL A LOT OF ACTIVITY HERE THAT I DON'T THINK IS A LOVING FAMILY MEMBER.
SO WE STILL HAVE A LO OF INVESTIGATING TO DO.
WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO GET TO THE OTHER PARTS.
WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GO DOWNSTAIRS AND FIND OUT WHO ELSE IS IN THE HOUSE.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA CHECK OUT THAT ROOM.
CAN I GO INTO THE BACK ROOM WITH YOU WHEN YOU GO IN? WELL, YES.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN.
THERE'S SOME INFORMATION THAT WE WANT TO FIND OU THAT WE DON'T WANT TO, LIKE, TELL YOU, BECAUSE IF WE TELL YOU AND I TURNS OUT TO BE NOT CORREC BASED ON OUR INVESTIGATION, DON'T WANT YOU TO EVER THINK ABOUT IT.
WHY DON'T WE DO FOR LIKE 5 OR 10 MINUTES? -YEAH.
OKAY.
-YEAH.
LET'S.
I'LL SIT OVER HERE.
MM-HMM.
Bruni: ALL RIGHT.
SO WE ARE IN THE SPARE ROOM.
IT'S ADAM, MYSELF, AND CATHERINE.
ARE YOU A CHILD? DO I KNOW YOU? ARE YOU LOST? LET'S LISTEN TO THAT.
WHAT WAS THAT? I AM? LOST? THAT'S SAD.
"ARE YOU LOST?" "I AM.
" THAT'S REALLY SAD.
IT SOUNDED FEMALE TO ME.
Bruni: I FEEL LIKE WE MIGH BE PICKING UP ON THE SPIRIT OF LUCINDA.
BUT UNTIL WE KNOW FOR SURE, I DON'T WANT CATHERINE TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
SO WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME PRIVACY TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND, HOPEFULLY, GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS HAUNTING.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO STAR ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT STUFF THAT KNOW WE KNOW.
YEAH.
THAT WE HAVE TO WAI TO TELL YOU.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GIVING US YOUR HOUSE AGAIN FOR ONE MORE NIGHT? OKAY.
AND TOMORROW, WE ARE GOING TO SHARE A BUNCH OF INFORMATION WITH YOU.
IT'S TALKING.
LET'S KEEP RECORDING.
DO YOU KNOW THE LAST NAME ASHCRAFT? ARE YOU A LITTLE GIRL? WHAT IS YOUR NAME? YES.
UGH.
IT'S TWO SYLLABLES.
LUCY.
IT'S TWO SYLLABLES.
LUCY.
LUCY.
IT TOTALLY SAID, "LUCY.
" LUCY AND I'M A LITTLE GIRL.
[ SIGHS .]
UNFORTUNATELY, IT MATCHES TO THAT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED.
I KNOW.
[ SIGHS .]
OH, IT'S SO MUCH.
IT'S SO MUCH! I KNOW.
IT'S JUST BLOWING MY MIND.
[ SIGHS .]
HEY.
WE GOT A LO OF INFORMATION.
WE DEFINITELY KNOW WHO'S IN THE HOUSE.
WE SHOULD LET HER KNOW WHO WE THINK IS HERE.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE ADAM.
MM-HMM.
FOR SURE.
IT'S SAYING, "ADAM.
" AND WE KNOW THAT A LO OF THE OTHER ACTIVITY IS THE LITTLE GIRL'S SPIRIT, LUCINDA.
YEAH.
WE GOT HER NAME.
AND SHE MATCHES THE CHILD FIGURE SEEN BY THE BED.
STANDING NEXT TO THE BED, JUST A SMALL FIGURE WATCHING ME SLEEP.
SHE DIED RIGHT OUTSIDE THIS PROPERTY WHICH IS WHY SHE WOULD WATCH US FROM THE WOODS.
DO YOU WATCH FROM THE WOODS? THERE'S THE EERIE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TOY SAW MOVING ON ITS OWN AND HOW SHE DIED.
AND THE SCRATCHES AND THE OBJECTS BREAKING, LIKE THE LIGHT, ISN'T NEGATIVE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST HER WAY OF GETTING OUR ATTENTION.
SO I MEAN, THAT'S LUCY'S THERE.
YES.
HER SON IS HERE.
YEAH.
I THINK THAT I THINK -- I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S AS GOOD OF NEWS AS WE COULD GIVE HER.
RIGHT.
AND THE -- AND THE HISTORY IS A LITTLE CLEARER NOW.
YEAH.
SHE HAS MORE HISTORY.
NOW, SINCE SHE HAS A LITTLE MORE BACKSTORY, MAYBE SHE CAN OPEN UP HER HOME A LITTLE BIT MORE.
MAYBE IT'LL MAKE THINGS PEACEFUL AROUND HERE.
I AGREE.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S GO FIND HER.
-OKAY.
-LET'S GO GET HER.
[ SIGHS .]
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN JUST WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT.
OH, YES.
UM, I MEAN, WE CAME INTO THIS KIND OF THINKING IT'S YOUR FAMILY.
BUT THERE WAS SOME ACTIVITY THAT SOUNDED LIKE IT COULD BE SOMETHING OR SOMEONE ELSE.
I CAME ACROSS SOMETHING THAT I FOUND VERY UNUSUAL.
AND THE ASHCRAFTS HAD A DAUGHTER.
UH, HER NAME WAS LUCINDA.
AND THEY OWNED A SAWMILL.
THE MOTHER BROUGHT THE DAUGHTER TO SEE THE FATHER AND GRANDFATHER AT WORK.
SHE LET THE DAUGHTER RUN UP TO THE MILL.
AND SHE SHE RAN INTO THE SAW.
OH, THAT POOR GIRL.
AND THEY DID NOT KNOW.
AND THAT COULD EXPLAIN THE TOY YOU SAW MOVING.
Catherine: AND HOW OLD WAS SHE AT THAT TIME? -3 YEARS, 8 MONTHS.
-OH, 3? SHE WAS EXACTLY THE AGE THAT MY DAUGHTER IS NOW.
Mary: OH, MY GOSH.
YEAH.
SO WE STARTED TO TRY TO MAKE CONTAC WITH THE LITTLE GIRL.
LISTEN.
"ARE YOU A LITTLE GIRL?" ARE YOU A LITTLE GIRL? YES.
-ARE YOU LUCY? -YES.
-AWW.
-AWW.
MM-HMM.
WE ASK, "WHAT IS YOUR NAME?" Bruni: WHAT IS YOUR NAME? LUCY.
WHAT'D YOU HEAR? -I HEARD, "LUCY.
" -I HEAR, "LUCY, TOO.
YEAH.
I THINK SO.
SO WE THINK LUCINDA IS THE FIGURE THAT YOU'RE SEEING.
AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, ESPECIALLY CHILD SPIRITS, THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO LOVING HOMES.
AND I THINK THA THAT'S PROBABLY WHY -SHE'S ATTRACTED TO THIS SPACE.
-MM-HMM.
AND TO TALK ABOU YOUR SCRATCHES FOR A SECOND, I MEAN, IT HAPPENED ONCE.
MM-HMM.
I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK TOO MUCH INTO IT.
WHEN WE ENCOUNTER PEOPLE THAT HAVE SCRATCHES AND STUFF, SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY, SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS ONCE A WEEK.
IF THIS HAPPENED ONCE AT ONE TIME SOMETIMES, ENTITIES ARE JUS SO DESPERATE TO GET IN CONTACT, THEY WILL ACCIDENTALLY SCRATCH YOU.
AND KNOWING THAT, LIKE, IT'S A LITTLE 3-YEAR-OLD GIRL, LIKE, THAT'S NOT REALLY SCARY.
THAT'S JUST SAD.
-RIGHT.
-RIGHT.
BUT IT WAS JUST SO CLEAR.
AND IT JUST, EVEN NOW, JUST BREAKS MY HEART.
IT'S -- YEAH.
YOU KNOW, LAST NIGHT, YOU INVESTIGATED WITH US.
WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE -- WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO REACH OUT TO THE FAMILY MEMBERS.
-RIGHT.
AND WE WERE NERVOUS BECAUSE WE WEREN' GETTING ANYTHING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT YOU IN.
AND SO WE'LL PLAY THE EVPs WE GOT LAST NIGHT.
HERE, GO LISTEN.
I HEARD SOME OF 'EM.
-SO I'LL LET YOU LISTEN TO IT.
-OKAY.
UM WHY ARE YOU HERE? ADAM.
WAS IT SAYING ADAM? -MM-HMM.
ADAM.
-YEAH.
-WE THINK IT'S ADAM.
-OH, WOW.
I THINK ADAM REALLY WANTED YOU TO KNOW HE WAS HERE.
-YEAH.
-YEAH.
I THINK SO.
[ Crying .]
I'M SORRY.
-IT'S OKAY.
-IT'S FINE.
I'VE ALWAYS KNOWN HE WAS HERE.
BUT JUST TO HEAR I AND I KNOW.
[ CHUCKLES .]
THAT'S WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO.
WE ARE SO HAPPY AND THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS FOR YOU.
-FOR SURE.
-THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NOW THAT CATHERINE KNOWS THAT LUCINDA IS IN HER HOME, SHE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN HER HOME TO THIS LITTLE GIRL.
LUCINDA, IF YOU'RE HERE, IF THAT'S YOU IN THE ROOM, IN THE HOUSE, YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO COME OU INTO THE REST OF THE HOUSE AND JOIN US IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY, MAKES YOU COMFORTABLE.
AND IF YOU SEE MY SON OUT THERE, FEEL FREE TO INTERACT WITH HIM.
SO I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE CATHERINE CONFIRMATION THAT HER SON IS WITH HER.
EVEN THOUGH THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING LUCINDA'S DEATH ARE HORRIBLE, THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS LITTLE GIRL IS THE ONE CAUSING THE ACTIVITY WILL HOPEFULLY BRING COMFOR TO CATHERINE AND MARY.
[ GASPS .]
ADAM! I SAW SOMETHING MOVE.
I DID, TOO.
DO YOU WATCH FROM THE WOODS? WHOA! WHAT IS YOUR NAME? ACCIDENT.
SHE DIED WHEN SHE WAS 3.
OH, GOD.
THERE WAS A HUGE SPINNING BLADE AND SHE WALKED INTO THAT BLADE.
-- Captions by VITAC -- I'M AMY BRUNI.
AND I'M ADAM BERRY.
WE'VE SPEN A COMBINED 30 YEARS INVESTIGATING THE WORLD'S MOST TERRIFYING HAUNTINGS.
AFTER THOUSANDS OF CASES, WE ARE READY FOR OUR MOST IMPORTANT JOURNEY YET.
[ BOTH GASP .]
RESCUING FAMILIES TERRORIZED BY PARANORMAL ACTIVITY IN THEIR OWN HOMES.
WE UNCOVER THE TRUTH BEHIND THE HAUNTING TO HELP FAMILIES RECLAIM THEIR HOMES THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND THEIR LIVES.
CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS BASICALLY, CATHERINE LIVES WITH HER DAUGHTER ON THIS MASSIVE PROPERTY, 30-SOME-ODD ACRES, 35 ACRES, I GUESS.
11 YEARS AGO, SHE STARTED HAVING CRAZY EXPERIENCES.
SHE THINKS IT'S HER FAMILY MEMBERS.
OKAY.
BUT THERE ARE EXPLODING LIGHT FIXTURES.
HER DAUGHTER WAS SCRATCHED.
SHE HAS SEEN AN APPARITION OR SOMETHING STANDING BY A TREE STARING AT HER WHILE SHE'S SITTING IN HER HOME.
SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S ENTIRELY HER FAMILY.
I MEAN, SOME OF THAT ACTIVITY SOUNDS DIFFERENT.
ABSOLUTELY.
THERE AREN'T ANY DEATHS IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN '82, '83.
THEY BUILT IT, SO THERE WAS NO HOUSE ON THIS PROPERTY BEFORE THEN.
LOOKING AT THE ADDRESS, THIS PLACE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
NOWHERE.
IT IS ON A LONG ROAD BY ITSELF.
WE ARE NOT WOODSY PEOPLE.
YEAH.
WE NEED TO GET YOU SOME CAMOUFLAGE CARGO SHORTS.
WHAT IF WE WORE CAMOUFLAGE IN THE WOODS? WE WOULD CATCH THE SPIRIT.
THEY WOULDN'T SEE US.
THEY'D BE LIKE [SMACKS LIPS.]
"THAT'S JUST A TREE.
" NO? CHECK, PLEASE.
SOME OF THE ACTIVITY THAT SHE'S EXPERIENCING JUST DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL LIKE IT'S HER FAMILY THAT SHE'S REALLY SET ON IT BEING.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE A LOVING FAMILY MEMBER WOULD SMASH A LIGHT FIXTURE, WAKE YOU FROM YOUR SLEEP.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE ANSWER RIGHT FOR HER.
-HI, GUYS.
-HI! -HI! -ADAM, HI! -MARY.
-MARY.
AMY.
COME ON IN.
I'LL SHOW YOU THE HOUSE.
-AFTER YOU.
-THANK YOU.
WELL, THIS IS NICE.
THANK YOU.
BUILT IT OURSELVES.
AND NOW, IS IT JUST YOU HERE ALL THE TIME? NO, MY DAUGHTER LIVES HERE WITH ME SINCE MY HUSBAND LEFT.
SO IT's JUS THE TWO OF US.
ALL RIGHT.
Berry: SO, WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT YOUR CASE.
BUT WE'D LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT THE ACTIVITY AND ABOUT THINGS, SO TAKE US THROUGH THE HOUSE.
TELL US EVERYTHING.
GIVE US THE HOT SPOTS.
WE DID HAVE AN INCIDEN THAT HAPPENED HERE.
I CAME HOME FROM WORK ONE DAY.
AND THERE WAS GLASS AND WOOD SPLINTERS ALL OVER THE FLOOR HERE.
MARY TOLD ME, UH, THAT SHE HAD BEEN BACK IN THE LAUNDRY ROOM.
SHE HEARD A LOUD CRASH, CAME OUT HERE.
AND THE LIGHT UP THERE HAD BROKEN.
THIS ONE? THE LIGHT WAS THE SAME DESIGN AS THE ONE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS.
OKAY.
THEY WERE, LIKE, A SET, ONLY THIS WAS A SWING LIGHT.
SO THIS WAS SOMETHING? THIS HAD -- THIS WAS SOMETHING? IT WAS, YEAH.
THERE WAS A WOOD BASE ON THE BOTTOM JUST LIKE THE TOP.
AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE WHERE IT'S RIPPED OFF.
Bruni: INTERESTING.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOME FORCE.
THAT WOULD SCARE THE HELL OUT OF ME.
THIS IS THE MASTER BEDROOM.
JUST THIS LAST SATURDAY, I HAD SOMETHING REALLY THAT KIND OF REALLY FREAKED ME OUT.
WHILE I'M LAYING THERE QUIETLY, I HEARD FOOTSTEPS STAR TO COME INTO THE ROOM.
AND I OPENED MY EYES.
AND IT WAS, LIKE, STANDING NEXT TO THE BED, JUST A SMALL FIGURE WATCHING ME SLEEP.
AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I HEARD THIS LOUD BREATHY SIGH IN MY EAR.
WHOLE SIDE OF MY BODY WENT ICE COLD.
THAT'S REALLY STRANGE.
JUST CHILLS FROM HEAD TO TOE.
YEAH, THAT'S TERRIFYING.
THAT WOULD BE ROUGH.
YEAH.
ABOUT A MONTH AGO, MY ONE DAUGHTER CAME TO VISIT.
AND WE WERE STANDING OVER HERE.
AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I WOULD HEAR VOICES COME FROM DOWN THE HALL.
-OKAY, SO IN THAT ROOM THERE? -IT CAME FROM THAT DIRECTION.
YES.
AND MY DAUGHTER LOOKED AT ME.
HER EYES WERE AS BIG AS SAUCERS.
SHE SAID, "DID YOU HEAR THAT?" DID IT SOUND LIKE A RADIO OR A TV, OR DID IT SOUND LIKE PEOPLE TALKING? IT SOUNDED LIKE -- LIKE THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE VOICE.
BUT THEY WERE SORT OF MONOTONE.
WOW.
NOW, THAT WAS THE FIRS TIME ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAD EVER HAPPENED.
THERE WERE TIMES WHERE I'D BE SITTING HERE AND LOOKING OU THE SLIDING GLASS DOOR WHERE I WOULD SWEAR I SAW SOMEBODY OUT THERE STANDING AGAINST ONE OF THE TREES.
I SEE WHAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING PEAKING OU FROM BEHIND THE TREE.
BUT I WAS HESITAN TO SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO FREAK OUT CATHERINE.
IT WAS VERY DARK.
IT WAS DARKER THAN THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
IT'S, LIKE, LOOKING AT US, KIND OF GAUGING WHAT WE'RE DOING AND -- AND I SEE IT CLEAR AS DAY.
HOW CLOSE IS A NEIGHBOR? OH, FROM OUT BACK THERE? QUITE A WAYS OUT THROUGH THE WOODS, DOWN THE HILL.
-HOW MANY ACRES? -I'VE GOT 34.
-OKAY.
-34, 35.
THE TABLE MAKES A VERY DISTINC SOUND WHEN YOU MOVE IT.
-RIGHT.
-I WAS IN THE LIVING ROOM.
AND I HEARD THAT NOISE, THAT CREAK, LIKE SOMEBODY LEANING UP AGAINST THE TABLE.
HERE, I WANT TO SEE.
[ TABLE CREAKS .]
OH, YEAH.
OKAY.
IT GIVES THIS CREAK WHEN YOU MOVE IT.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO MOVE IT HARD.
JUST LEAN AGAINST IT.
ALL RIGHT.
WHAT COULD WE DO FOR YOU? WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GONNA BE THE IDEAL WELL, I THINK A LOT OF IT WAS FAMILY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO FROM THE FAMILY IS HERE.
WHICH OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE PASSED THAT YOU THINK MIGH WANT TO STICK AROUND? WELL, THE -- THE FIRS AND FOREMOST, MY SON.
HIS NAME WAS ADAM.
HE DIED AN INFANT.
WE TALKED ON THE PHONE, AND I'M WONDERING, YOUR -- YOUR DAUGHTER GOT SCRATCHED.
-YES.
-RIGHT.
AND YOU GET SCRATCHED, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WELCOMING.
RIGHT.
AND THAT CONCERNED ME BECAUSE I THOUGHT, "IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE HERE THAT WE DON'T WANT?" WAS MARY FRIGHTENED BY THIS WHOLE THING? UH, YOU'D HAVE TO ASK HER.
WE NEED TO REGROUP AND DISCUSS OUR STRATEGY.
CAN I TELL YOU SOMETHING? YES.
WHEN WE WERE STARING OUT AT THE WOODS, I SAW SOMETHING MOVE IN THE WOODS.
I DID, TOO.
NEXT TO THE TREE RIGHT WHERE SHE SAID.
YES.
RIGHT WHERE SHE SAID.
OKAY, 'CAUSE I DIDN' WANT TO OVERREACT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO FREAK HER OUT.
IT WAS WEIRD 'CAUSE I DIDN'T -- I WASN'T TRUSTING MYSELF COMPLETELY.
YOU STARED, YOU KEP LOOKING AT THAT STOP.
I WAS STARING FOR THE LONGEST TIME.
AND YOU WOULD NOT MOVE.
BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OU IF MY EYES WERE PLAYING TRICKS ON ME.
BUT I WAS LIKE, "I KEEP THINKIN' I'M SEEIN' SOMEBODY, LIKE A SHADOW, PEAK OU FROM BEHIND THAT TREE.
" RIGHT.
EXACTLY.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAW.
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S ON THE PROPERTY BACK THERE.
YES, 100%.
WE HAVE A BILLION LAYERS TO LOOK THROUGH.
SHE REALLY THINKS IT'S HER FAMILY.
BUT THE ACTIVITY THAT SHE'S EXPLAINING ABOUT THE WOODS AND THE LIGHTS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A FAMILY MEMBER AT ALL.
NO, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE FAMILY.
SO I WANT TO TALK TO THE DAUGHTER.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHA THE DAUGHTER'S THINKING.
I WANT TO KNOW WHA THE DAUGHTER'S FEELING.
I MEAN, WE NEED TO FIND OU MORE ABOUT THE SCRATCHES AND WHAT TYPE OF SPIRI WOULD DO THIS BEFORE WE START ANY TYPE OF INVESTIGATION.
SO TOMORROW, WE HAVE TO HIT I VERY, VERY HARD AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHO'S HERE.
SO TELL ME ABOUT THE SCRATCHES, AND WHERE THEY WERE, WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
OKAY.
THE WHOLE STORY OF I IS I FELL ASLEEP DOWNSTAIRS ON THE COUCH WATCHING TV.
WHICH COUCH WAS IT? IT WAS THE COUCH DOWNSTAIRS.
OKAY.
SO YOU WERE SLEEPING THE LIVING ROOM? YEAH.
YEAH.
AND THE NEXT MORNING FROM, LIKE, HERE ON MY LEG TO HERE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, THERE WERE, LIKE SO, LIKE, ABOUT A FOOT? YEAH.
THERE WERE, LIKE, THESE SCRATCHES.
BUT THEY TENDED -- IT WASN' JUST LIKE ONE SCRATCH DOWN.
THEY WERE KIND OF, LIKE, CIRCULAR.
COULD YOU DRAW THEM FOR ME? PROBABLY YEAH.
SAY THIS IS MY LEG.
THEY WERE KIND OF LIKE THIS.
LIKE, IT WASN'T STRAIGHT.
THEY WERE REALLY WEIRD.
OKAY.
DO YOU THINK THA IT'S THE FAMILY MEMBERS? MY MOM ALWAYS THINKS IT'S FAMILY.
BUT HOW SHOULD I PUT THAT? IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE I -- IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE IT REALLY WASN'T FAMILY.
Berry: THE MORE I TALK TO THE FAMILY, THE MORE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DEALING WITH A MUCH DARKER SPIRIT.
WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR TONIGHT'S INVESTIGATION, SETTING UP CAMERAS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE HOUSE.
Bruni: SO, ADAM IS SETTING UP A TRAIL CAM OUT HERE JUST BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY SEEN A SHADOW FIGURE IN THIS AREA.
THE GAME CAMERAS ARE I.
R.
CAMERAS THAT ARE MOTION-ACTIVATED.
SO THEY'RE MEANT FOR, LIKE, SPOTTING WILDLIFE.
SO IF SOMETHING MOVES IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA, IT WILL RECORD FOR ONE MINUTE.
SO IF YOU'RE IN HERE, MY NAME IS ADAM.
THIS IS AMY.
SO WHOEVER'S HERE WITH US, YOU'RE CERTAINLY NOT SHY WHEN CATHERINE IS HERE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SHY AROUND US.
WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TALK TO YOU.
SO, ARE YOU RELATED TO CATHERINE? DID YOU SCRATCH MARY ONCE? IS THERE SOMEONE HERE NAMED ADAM BESIDES THIS ADAM? IS THERE ANOTHER ADAM? JUST GET OUR ATTENTION BY, LIKE, KNOCKING OR WALKING AROUND.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WITH THE LAST NAME [ CREAK .]
IS THAT, THAT TABLE? MM-HMM.
WE NEED TO GO SEE IT.
JUST GET OUR ATTENTION BY, LIKE, KNOCKING OR WALKING AROUND.
Bruni: IS THERE ANYONE HERE WITH THE LAST NAME [ CREAKS .]
IS THAT, THAT TABLE? MM-HMM.
WE NEED TO GO SEE IT.
SO WE THOUGHT WE HEARD A NOISE IN HERE WHICH IS WHY WE MOVED OVER.
MM-HMM.
SO CAN YOU KNOCK ON THIS TABLE OR -- OR MAKE SOME SORT OF SOUND FOR US.
IF YOU'RE NOT RELATED TO CATHERINE, THAT'S OKAY.
SHE JUST WANTS TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S TRY THIS ONE MORE TIME.
AND THEN, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE OTHER ONE.
QUIET.
YOU WANT TO GO INTO THAT OTHER ROOM? THE GUEST ROOM, THE SPARE ROOM? YEP.
YEAH.
I THINK WE SHOULD TRY IT.
[ DOOR CREAKS .]
THIS IS AMY AND ADAM, WE ARE IN CATHERINE'S HOUSE, AND WE ARE IN THE GUEST ROOM WHERE SHE HEARD VOICES.
HAVE YOU BROKEN THINGS IN THE HOUSE BEFORE? WHOEVER'S IN HERE, DO YOU LIKE CATHERINE AND MARY? DO YOU SOMETIMES WATCH FROM THE WOODS AND LOOK INTO THE HOUSE TO WATCH CATHERINE AND MARY? LET'S SEE.
-YES! -OH! WHOA! HMM.
MNH-MNH.
DID YOU HEAR HOW THAT SOUNDED? YEAH.
WHATEVER'S TALKING, IT'S SO LOUD.
BUT ALL THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF MY NECK IS STANDING UP RIGHT NOW.
GOT GOOSE BUMPS ALL OVER.
UGH.
LIKE, IT WATCHES THEM FROM THE WOODS.
Bruni: SO WE BOTH SAW A SHADOW FIGURE IN THE WOODS.
AND NOW, WE HAVE THIS PERSON THAT BASICALLY ADMITTED, IN EVP, IT STARES FROM THE WOODS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SHOW THAT TO CATHERINE.
YEP.
YEAH.
WELL, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO NEXT? I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S ODD.
WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY, LIKE, IT WATCHES THEM FROM THE WOODS.
I KNOW.
I NEED TO GO RESEARCH THE DEED, LAND, SEE WHAT ELSE WAS ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO I'M GONNA GO TO THE LIBRARY.
LET'S PACK UP.
THE ACTIVITY IN THE GUEST ROOM MAKES ME THINK, "WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH A FAMILY MEMBER, BUT SOMETHING ELSE.
" WHILE ADAM'S GOING TO RESEARCH THE LAND'S HISTORY I WANT TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON A PROPERTY THAT IS NEARBY IN LITTLE MEADOWS, PA.
I'M GOING TO TALK TO CATHERINE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT HER EXPERIENCES.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU A FEW MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT CAN HELP US WHEN WE'RE INVESTIGATING.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WERE, LIKE, A FEW, JUST THE BIGGEST THING OR THINGS HERE THAT WERE MAYBE NOT FAMILY, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE DISCONCERTING? UH, WELL, ONE TIME, I WOKE UP DURING THE NIGHT.
AND THERE WAS, LIKE, A SHADOW PERSON JUST WATCHING ME SLEEP.
AND THIS WASN'T THE SIZE OF ANY OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS.
IT WAS MORE LIKE A CHILD.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY OTHER ACTIVITY THAT MIGHT POINT TO, LIKE, A CHILD-TYPE SPIRIT? WE DID.
THERE WAS A LITTLE TOY BLACK & DECKER BENCH HERE ON THE PORCH THAT WAS MY GRANDSON'S.
AND MARY HEARD I MAKING A SOUND.
AND SHE CAME OUT TO LOOK, AND THERE WAS A LITTLE SAW BLADE, AND SHE SAID THAT WAS TURNING.
HMM.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SORT OF A CHILDLIKE-TYPE THING.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF WE CAME BACK AND WE JUST -- WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE IT'S YOUR FAMILY? WELL, SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW ME, WHY WOULD THEY CHOOSE MY HOME? CATHERINE'S VERY INTEN ON THIS BEING HER FAMILY.
BUT A LOT OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT SHE DESCRIBED IS CHILDLIKE.
ADAM WAS ONLY 4 DAYS OLD WHEN HE PASSED AWAY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WOULD BE A CHILD SPIRIT THERE.
I REALLY DON'T.
Berry: IN MY RESEARCH, I HAVE DISCOVERED THAT THE ASHCRAFT FAMILY OWNED THIS LAND BEFORE CATHERINE AND HER FAMILY BOUGHT IT.
I'M GONNA DO A TON OF RESEARCH TO FIND OUT, DID THEY DIE HERE? AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL GET SOME ANSWERS.
OH.
SO FAR WHAT I'VE GOT, UH, FRED ASHCRAFT JR.
, LITTLE MEADOWS, PA.
HE HAD A DAUGHTER.
OH, GOD.
SHE DIED WHEN SHE WAS 3, JUNE 5th, 1942.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DIED.
ACCIDENT.
[ LAUGHS .]
THAT TICKLES! DID THAT BEAR JUST MOVE? WHAT? I DON'T KNOW.
DID IT? THAT BEAR JUST MOVED.
IT'S -- IT, LIKE, ROCKED BACK FURTHER.
I DIDN'T NOTICE IT MOVING.
OR AM I JUST, LIKE, SEEING THINGS? WELL, YOU HAVE THE CAMERA.
SHOULD I LOOK BACK ON THIS THING? YEAH.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND YOU DO, IT'S GONNA SAY IT'S GETTING TOUCHED.
I KNOW.
I MEAN, WE COULD JUST REVIEW IT.
YEAH, LET'S REVIEW IT LATER.
BUT I HONESTLY HAVE NEVER HAD THAT BEAR DO THAT, THAT MUCH.
LET ME SEE HOW HARD I HAVE TO TOUCH IT TO MAKE IT [ LAUGHS .]
THAT TICKLES! I HAD TO SQUEEZE THAT PRETTY HARD.
SO SOMETHING WAS DEFINITELY TOUCHING IT.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S LISTEN NOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
MNH-MNH.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO GO ON.
YEAH.
WE HAVE A FIGURE DOWNSTAIRS THAT MIGHT BE THE ONE WATCHING FROM THE WOODS.
SO THAT'S INTERESTING.
WE CAN CHECK THE TRAIL CAMS.
MM-HMM.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO SAY 100% THAT A LITTLE GIRL IS HERE.
BUT SOMETHING WAS MANIPULATING THE BEAR.
WE SHOULD DEFINITELY CHECK OUT THAT FOOTAGE.
YEAH.
FOR SURE.
DID YOU FIND ANYTHING ON THE TRAIL CAMS? NOTHING.
NOPE.
UH, IT WENT OFF ONCE WHEN I WAS SETTING IT UP AND ONCE WHEN I WAS TAKING IT DOWN.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING REALLY QUICK.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE BEAR UPSTAIRS IN THE MASTER BEDROOM.
AND REMEMBER WHEN I WAS LIKE, "DID THAT BEAR JUST MOVE?" RIGHT.
DID THAT BEAR JUST MOVE? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
DO IT AGAIN.
DID THAT BEAR JUST MOVE? -DID NOT MOVE.
-IT CLEARLY DID NOT MOVE.
I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE REST OF THIS EVIDENCE AND SEE IF I CAN CATCH ANYTHING ELSE.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE CLOSE TO THE SOLUTION ON THIS ONE AT ALL.
AND WE HAVE SO MANY OPTIONS BETWEEN LUCINDA AND FAMILY.
FAMILY, WHATEVER'S OUT IN THE WOODS, WHATEVER'S IN THAT ROOM, I MEAN, ALL OF THAT, WE STILL DON'T HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER AS TO WHAT IS DEFINITIVELY HERE OR IF IT'S ALL OF THE ABOVE.
I'VE GOTTEN NO SENSE THAT HER FAMILY MEMBERS ARE HERE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S RIGHT.
WELL, LET'S INVESTIGATE WITH HER TONIGHT FOR A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH.
GETTING HER IN THERE MIGHT BE THE PUSH WE NEED TO GET THEM TO TALK TO US.
I'M JUST HOPING TONIGH WHEN WE INVESTIGATE, THERE'S JUST SOMETHING THAT TIES IT ALL UP.
THIS IS AMY, ADAM, AND CATHERINE IN CATHERINE'S ROOM.
SO IF ANYONE ELSE IS IN HERE BESIDES US, YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE TRYING TO TALK TO YOU.
AND WE BROUGHT CATHERINE WITH US TONIGHT.
ARE YOU RELATED TO CATHERINE? WHY ARE YOU HERE? HOW OLD ARE YOU? CAN YOU TELL ME WHO YOU ARE? YOU MY FAMILY? IF IT IS YOU, ADAM, I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.
I HEAR YOU EVERY NIGHT IN HERE.
IS THIS A PICTURE OF HIM? YES.
THAT'S HIM.
-HE LOOKS SO SWEET.
-MM-HMM.
ALL RIGHT, BUDDY.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S LISTEN TO THAT.
YEAH.
ARE YOU RELATED TO CATHERINE? NO.
WHY ARE YOU HERE? [ INDISTINCT SPEAKING .]
COME ON.
WHAT IS THAT?! NO.
COME ON.
WHAT IS THAT?! IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE, "ADAM.
" GO BACK.
HE'S SAYING, "ADAM.
" ADAM.
IT'S ADAM.
IT'S TWO SYLLABLES.
TWO SYLLABLES.
THAT IS ADAM.
I MEAN, THAT'S ON TOP OF THE MICROPHONE.
LET'S KEEP GOING.
THAT WAS AN ANSWER.
YEAH.
SOUNDS LIKE 33.
ADAM WOULD BE 33.
REALLY? YEAH.
WAIT.
HE WAS BORN 33 YEARS AGO? YEAH.
-THIRTY-THREE.
-THIRTY-THREE.
Bruni: I WASN'T SURE IF THE FIRST EVP TONIGH WAS REFERRING TO OUR ADAM OR CATHERINE'S SON.
BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE A SECOND EVP POINTING TOWARDS HER SON, IT MAKES ME THINK WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH HIM.
IT'S ANSWERING, "ADAM.
" IT SAID, "33.
" I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR.
I'VE GOT GOOSE BUMPS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S REALLY GREA THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE JUST SOMETHING.
YEAH.
AND YOU GO TO BE THERE FOR THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED IF YOU HADN'T BEEN IN HERE WITH US.
-IT MIGHT NOT OF.
-NO.
-YEAH.
Bruni: GETTING THOSE EVPs WAS INTENSE.
BUT THERE IS STILL A LOT OF ACTIVITY HERE THAT I DON'T THINK IS A LOVING FAMILY MEMBER.
SO WE STILL HAVE A LO OF INVESTIGATING TO DO.
WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO GET TO THE OTHER PARTS.
WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GO DOWNSTAIRS AND FIND OUT WHO ELSE IS IN THE HOUSE.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA CHECK OUT THAT ROOM.
CAN I GO INTO THE BACK ROOM WITH YOU WHEN YOU GO IN? WELL, YES.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN.
THERE'S SOME INFORMATION THAT WE WANT TO FIND OU THAT WE DON'T WANT TO, LIKE, TELL YOU, BECAUSE IF WE TELL YOU AND I TURNS OUT TO BE NOT CORREC BASED ON OUR INVESTIGATION, DON'T WANT YOU TO EVER THINK ABOUT IT.
WHY DON'T WE DO FOR LIKE 5 OR 10 MINUTES? -YEAH.
OKAY.
-YEAH.
LET'S.
I'LL SIT OVER HERE.
MM-HMM.
Bruni: ALL RIGHT.
SO WE ARE IN THE SPARE ROOM.
IT'S ADAM, MYSELF, AND CATHERINE.
ARE YOU A CHILD? DO I KNOW YOU? ARE YOU LOST? LET'S LISTEN TO THAT.
WHAT WAS THAT? I AM? LOST? THAT'S SAD.
"ARE YOU LOST?" "I AM.
" THAT'S REALLY SAD.
IT SOUNDED FEMALE TO ME.
Bruni: I FEEL LIKE WE MIGH BE PICKING UP ON THE SPIRIT OF LUCINDA.
BUT UNTIL WE KNOW FOR SURE, I DON'T WANT CATHERINE TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
SO WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME PRIVACY TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND, HOPEFULLY, GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS HAUNTING.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO STAR ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT STUFF THAT KNOW WE KNOW.
YEAH.
THAT WE HAVE TO WAI TO TELL YOU.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GIVING US YOUR HOUSE AGAIN FOR ONE MORE NIGHT? OKAY.
AND TOMORROW, WE ARE GOING TO SHARE A BUNCH OF INFORMATION WITH YOU.
IT'S TALKING.
LET'S KEEP RECORDING.
DO YOU KNOW THE LAST NAME ASHCRAFT? ARE YOU A LITTLE GIRL? WHAT IS YOUR NAME? YES.
UGH.
IT'S TWO SYLLABLES.
LUCY.
IT'S TWO SYLLABLES.
LUCY.
LUCY.
IT TOTALLY SAID, "LUCY.
" LUCY AND I'M A LITTLE GIRL.
[ SIGHS .]
UNFORTUNATELY, IT MATCHES TO THAT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED.
I KNOW.
[ SIGHS .]
OH, IT'S SO MUCH.
IT'S SO MUCH! I KNOW.
IT'S JUST BLOWING MY MIND.
[ SIGHS .]
HEY.
WE GOT A LO OF INFORMATION.
WE DEFINITELY KNOW WHO'S IN THE HOUSE.
WE SHOULD LET HER KNOW WHO WE THINK IS HERE.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE ADAM.
MM-HMM.
FOR SURE.
IT'S SAYING, "ADAM.
" AND WE KNOW THAT A LO OF THE OTHER ACTIVITY IS THE LITTLE GIRL'S SPIRIT, LUCINDA.
YEAH.
WE GOT HER NAME.
AND SHE MATCHES THE CHILD FIGURE SEEN BY THE BED.
STANDING NEXT TO THE BED, JUST A SMALL FIGURE WATCHING ME SLEEP.
SHE DIED RIGHT OUTSIDE THIS PROPERTY WHICH IS WHY SHE WOULD WATCH US FROM THE WOODS.
DO YOU WATCH FROM THE WOODS? THERE'S THE EERIE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TOY SAW MOVING ON ITS OWN AND HOW SHE DIED.
AND THE SCRATCHES AND THE OBJECTS BREAKING, LIKE THE LIGHT, ISN'T NEGATIVE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST HER WAY OF GETTING OUR ATTENTION.
SO I MEAN, THAT'S LUCY'S THERE.
YES.
HER SON IS HERE.
YEAH.
I THINK THAT I THINK -- I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S AS GOOD OF NEWS AS WE COULD GIVE HER.
RIGHT.
AND THE -- AND THE HISTORY IS A LITTLE CLEARER NOW.
YEAH.
SHE HAS MORE HISTORY.
NOW, SINCE SHE HAS A LITTLE MORE BACKSTORY, MAYBE SHE CAN OPEN UP HER HOME A LITTLE BIT MORE.
MAYBE IT'LL MAKE THINGS PEACEFUL AROUND HERE.
I AGREE.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S GO FIND HER.
-OKAY.
-LET'S GO GET HER.
[ SIGHS .]
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN JUST WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT.
OH, YES.
UM, I MEAN, WE CAME INTO THIS KIND OF THINKING IT'S YOUR FAMILY.
BUT THERE WAS SOME ACTIVITY THAT SOUNDED LIKE IT COULD BE SOMETHING OR SOMEONE ELSE.
I CAME ACROSS SOMETHING THAT I FOUND VERY UNUSUAL.
AND THE ASHCRAFTS HAD A DAUGHTER.
UH, HER NAME WAS LUCINDA.
AND THEY OWNED A SAWMILL.
THE MOTHER BROUGHT THE DAUGHTER TO SEE THE FATHER AND GRANDFATHER AT WORK.
SHE LET THE DAUGHTER RUN UP TO THE MILL.
AND SHE SHE RAN INTO THE SAW.
OH, THAT POOR GIRL.
AND THEY DID NOT KNOW.
AND THAT COULD EXPLAIN THE TOY YOU SAW MOVING.
Catherine: AND HOW OLD WAS SHE AT THAT TIME? -3 YEARS, 8 MONTHS.
-OH, 3? SHE WAS EXACTLY THE AGE THAT MY DAUGHTER IS NOW.
Mary: OH, MY GOSH.
YEAH.
SO WE STARTED TO TRY TO MAKE CONTAC WITH THE LITTLE GIRL.
LISTEN.
"ARE YOU A LITTLE GIRL?" ARE YOU A LITTLE GIRL? YES.
-ARE YOU LUCY? -YES.
-AWW.
-AWW.
MM-HMM.
WE ASK, "WHAT IS YOUR NAME?" Bruni: WHAT IS YOUR NAME? LUCY.
WHAT'D YOU HEAR? -I HEARD, "LUCY.
" -I HEAR, "LUCY, TOO.
YEAH.
I THINK SO.
SO WE THINK LUCINDA IS THE FIGURE THAT YOU'RE SEEING.
AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, ESPECIALLY CHILD SPIRITS, THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO LOVING HOMES.
AND I THINK THA THAT'S PROBABLY WHY -SHE'S ATTRACTED TO THIS SPACE.
-MM-HMM.
AND TO TALK ABOU YOUR SCRATCHES FOR A SECOND, I MEAN, IT HAPPENED ONCE.
MM-HMM.
I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK TOO MUCH INTO IT.
WHEN WE ENCOUNTER PEOPLE THAT HAVE SCRATCHES AND STUFF, SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY, SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS ONCE A WEEK.
IF THIS HAPPENED ONCE AT ONE TIME SOMETIMES, ENTITIES ARE JUS SO DESPERATE TO GET IN CONTACT, THEY WILL ACCIDENTALLY SCRATCH YOU.
AND KNOWING THAT, LIKE, IT'S A LITTLE 3-YEAR-OLD GIRL, LIKE, THAT'S NOT REALLY SCARY.
THAT'S JUST SAD.
-RIGHT.
-RIGHT.
BUT IT WAS JUST SO CLEAR.
AND IT JUST, EVEN NOW, JUST BREAKS MY HEART.
IT'S -- YEAH.
YOU KNOW, LAST NIGHT, YOU INVESTIGATED WITH US.
WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE -- WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO REACH OUT TO THE FAMILY MEMBERS.
-RIGHT.
AND WE WERE NERVOUS BECAUSE WE WEREN' GETTING ANYTHING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT YOU IN.
AND SO WE'LL PLAY THE EVPs WE GOT LAST NIGHT.
HERE, GO LISTEN.
I HEARD SOME OF 'EM.
-SO I'LL LET YOU LISTEN TO IT.
-OKAY.
UM WHY ARE YOU HERE? ADAM.
WAS IT SAYING ADAM? -MM-HMM.
ADAM.
-YEAH.
-WE THINK IT'S ADAM.
-OH, WOW.
I THINK ADAM REALLY WANTED YOU TO KNOW HE WAS HERE.
-YEAH.
-YEAH.
I THINK SO.
[ Crying .]
I'M SORRY.
-IT'S OKAY.
-IT'S FINE.
I'VE ALWAYS KNOWN HE WAS HERE.
BUT JUST TO HEAR I AND I KNOW.
[ CHUCKLES .]
THAT'S WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO.
WE ARE SO HAPPY AND THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS FOR YOU.
-FOR SURE.
-THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NOW THAT CATHERINE KNOWS THAT LUCINDA IS IN HER HOME, SHE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN HER HOME TO THIS LITTLE GIRL.
LUCINDA, IF YOU'RE HERE, IF THAT'S YOU IN THE ROOM, IN THE HOUSE, YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO COME OU INTO THE REST OF THE HOUSE AND JOIN US IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY, MAKES YOU COMFORTABLE.
AND IF YOU SEE MY SON OUT THERE, FEEL FREE TO INTERACT WITH HIM.
SO I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE CATHERINE CONFIRMATION THAT HER SON IS WITH HER.
EVEN THOUGH THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING LUCINDA'S DEATH ARE HORRIBLE, THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS LITTLE GIRL IS THE ONE CAUSING THE ACTIVITY WILL HOPEFULLY BRING COMFOR TO CATHERINE AND MARY.