Killing Fields (2016) s01e02 Episode Script
Buried Secrets
1 I'd like to see if I could open a case up Eugenie boisfontaine case.
Two months after she went missing, her body was found in iberville parish.
Aubrey, I want you to work with rodie on this.
Why you didn't solve it in '97? There's a lot of stuff I could have done better.
Back in 1997, that's the same damn time that we them [bleep.]
damn serial killers running around.
Derrick Todd Lee murdered five women in the Baton Rouge area, but they believe he could be involved in a string of other murders.
And the advancement in DNA and all I think the case can be solved.
They had the DNA while he was there in custody.
And he was excluded.
Now, what we did find is that it is a mixture of potentially two to three males.
From them results, we got our work cut out for us.
My girl, my girl Don't lie to me Tell me, where did you sleep last night? Sweetheart.
Give me some ice, baby.
Just some ice.
- I'll get you some.
- Okay.
You're the only man I know that got six of everything.
You got six salt shakers, six pepper shakers.
I think I had a garage sale, and I'm not lying to you.
I think I had four or five toasters still in the box.
I've been married six times.
Six.
Seven in Louisiana I think they don't acknowledge them after that.
What about the new wife? Is she gonna be okay with you pulling them files up? Yeah, believe me, we had a long talk about it.
And she understands how much this case meant to me.
Yeah, you got two DNA profiles in her underwear, you said? - Yes.
- Gang rape? Very possible.
Eugenie boisfontaine She was abducted in 1997 from the lsu lakefront.
Three months later, she was found brutally murdered.
Her body was dumped in a raggedy-ass killing field over there in bayou manchac like a piece of trash.
I hold Eugenie in my heart because of the life I realize she lived and how lonely she really was.
I don't think anybody has to be lonely in this world.
Eugenie came to lsu, got to be in a sorority with her friends.
And after she graduated, she got married.
Marriage didn't work out.
Divorced.
Came back to lsu, where she had went to school.
I think the poor girl, after she got divorced I think she felt she lost everything in the world.
And I've never said this before, but I'll say why eugenie's case meant so much to me Eugenie reminds me of me.
Through my different marriages and divorces, I've been lonely several times.
I know what it is to search for a friend when you're down.
She had no one to be there every night for her, to hold her hand and say, "it's okay.
" And the only person that she had found that showed her a little bit of sympathy, I think Was the one who killed her.
Was she dating anybody? We don't know.
We need to look back into that again, whether it was just someone she had met one particular night, whether she had a boyfriend.
That certainly could be a person of interest to us.
So, apparently she's having sex with somebody, whether it be consensual or non-consensual.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
To know who your killer is, you got to know the victim.
You have to almost put yourself there.
You have to know what her lifestyle was, what she did on a daily basis, who she seen, who she hung around with.
18 years Somebody might want to talk now.
Somebody might have seen something, but didn't want at that particular time to get involved.
What you're gonna need to do is you're gonna need to go back and retrace everything.
Start from the beginning.
While you do that, I'm gonna talk to the sheriff about reinvestigating the dump site.
Who knows? They may have dropped something that the department back in the day didn't find.
The thing about it is, if you got two or three profiles in there, somebody had to mess up somewhere.
And we could use a lead.
Tomorrow, I'm gonna get with Aubrey.
We'll go out to where she lived.
You got Aubrey with you.
He's young.
He's fresh.
- He's a go-getter.
- He's a go-getter.
He's not gonna be scared to go.
And he wants to go, go, go all the time.
Aubrey has ambition.
It's a beast out there.
We try to prepare ourselves every way as a cop Mentally, physically, emotionally.
I always question, when's my card gonna get pulled? My dad, he was in law enforcement.
I'd see his patrol car.
And mom was a cop, as well.
She used to work on the ambulance service.
I guess it was in my blood.
Two things I carry with me every day The fact that death is certain, life is not.
I lost my mom at a young age.
I was 13 when she passed away.
She was 32.
Told my mom that I was going to seek a medical profession and find a cure for cancer that took her from us.
And it wasn't feasible, you know, trying to pay for college and raise an 8-year-old brother.
Somebody's got to protect people, right? That's what I made a commitment to.
Cancer took my mom from me and my brother and my family.
Another monster took Eugenie from her family.
I'd like to know what happened to Eugenie.
80% of women that are murdered, their lovers committed the crime.
We could be looking at a crime of passion.
That's why it's the utmost important that we find out who she was dating or who she was seeing after her divorce.
Nobody's here, Aubrey.
Do you remember her walking around here? - I do.
- You ever seen her walking with anyone other than herself? No, I never saw her with anybody but herself.
Did Eugenie have a boyfriend? I did not know of anyone specific that she had found.
It's a possibility that Eugenie's killer could have been a lover.
Relationships go bad all the time.
And in the heat of the moment, homicides happen.
Do you think she changed after the divorce? Yes, I do.
She wasn't very kept up.
Just not herself.
So it was a pretty bad breakup.
Yes.
Her husband left her.
Please leave a message at the tone.
[beep.]
St.
Angelo: Yes, sir.
How you doing? Aubrey St.
Angelo, homicide division.
We are reopening your ex-wife's case, and I'd like to speak with you.
So I'd appreciate it if you'd give me a call.
Did she ever, at any time, tell you of anyone that she was dating? I really don't remember if she did or not.
No one ever seen her with a man.
No one.
But if there's three DNA and none of your close sorority friends and neighbors ever seen anyone come to your house or you never talked about dating anyone or they never heard you say anything, that's why this case is so hard to solve.
More than one man's DNA could mean she was gang-raped, or it could mean she had consensual sex with someone one day and was raped and killed the next.
It doesn't matter how quiet you are.
You're going to meet people.
You're divorced for a couple years.
You're lonely.
You want to have sex.
I mean, come on.
Everybody that we talked to that said that she was quiet and this and that, were mostly her friends.
And just to say, if you were killed and you were a little promiscuous or wild or something like that, 9 times out of 10, your friends aren't gonna run your name through the mud.
And who knows? Maybe she was seeing people we didn't know.
Maybe she wanted to keep that to her personal self.
Lots of curveballs in this one.
Definitely.
This investigation is fixing to get very dark and very, very deep.
Take you now to Baton Rouge, by the lakefront where she was abducted.
There's a couple strange things out there that happened that I want your opinion on.
What you mean by strange? I'll show you when I get there.
Show you.
This is it right here.
Aubrey needs to know everything I know and everything I did on this case because he has a new, fresh, young set of eyes.
'Cause it may take that to solve this case.
I think she was abducted right here in this area.
Her credit cards and driver's license and stuff were found right up in here.
Probably someone stopped to talk to her.
And good-hearted as she was, thought she found a friend.
Ended up knocking her behind the head and throwing her in that raggedy-ass canal that I found her in.
Walk this way.
I'm gonna show you something else.
See this particular pole here? We put posters up, fliers.
When we put them up, come back the next day or the day after, they were gone.
Not one, not two, not three, but five different occasions.
Like guilt, like can't see her face? Good possibility.
- And that's odd, dude.
- Very.
To find her flier taken off that pole not one, not two, but four or five times, that tells me that that probably was the killer pulling that off.
He came back.
He was trying to test me and say, "you can't catch me.
" Killers will go on back to the crime scene and watch behind trees or whatever they can do to see what we doing.
And probably go back and laugh and say, "hey, I got them.
" I'll kill another one.
They ain't got me yet.
" Well, put another one back up.
Let's see if we can smoke him out if he's still out there.
Let's do it.
You know, I think Eugenie's killer's still out there.
Maybe he still lives in the same area.
Come on.
Come back and get it.
I'll be waiting for you.
I'll promise you one thing Whoever you are, you're not smarter than me.
Sooner or later, I'm gonna get your ass.
Oh, my brother You've fallen from grace Come on! Yeah, my baby.
That there's the baby.
That's daddy's old buddy.
I really don't want to get rid of him when we move.
- Have you found a house yet? - I have found a house.
- You finally found one - I found it.
- After all the houses.
- It's beautiful.
Tell me about it.
It's a lot of space for us.
You can have your own space.
I'm gonna have an office to do all my police work? No police work.
No police work.
- No police work? - No police work.
You know, you're supposed to be retired, but You're not.
You're not.
You're still tied up.
You're tied up in everything.
I know, Leda, but you got to understand I've been doing this since I was 18 years old.
I've been married six times.
I live to work.
And my wives, they had to suffer.
And that's why I'm on number 6, I guess.
It's just time.
It's time for you to relax.
It's time for retiring.
It's time for, you know, calmness in your life.
After this case, my baby.
I'm not gonna lose this wife over law enforcement.
That ain't gonna happen to me.
But I'm not gonna be happy until I know who killed Eugenie.
Don't overdo it, Rodie.
- Love you.
- Love you, too, baby.
Hey, watch that.
Please leave a message at the tone.
Before I came to homicide, Zack simmers was one of the first guys I got to train.
Turn in right here.
We chased bad guys together.
I'd trust Zack with my life.
Lot of freaks hang out here at night.
Turn in.
So, when rodie's not around, this case is gonna be handled one way or another.
It's assigned to me, and I'll take care of it.
In '97, Rodie and them were out here canvassing the area.
They put some fliers up.
One pole right there in particular, the flier kept getting ripped down.
They were gone.
Not one, not two, not three, but five different occasions.
We put up some fliers this morning.
Tonight, I want to see if they come down again.
Right.
I want to set up surveillance on that pole.
It's night vision.
- Cool? - Let's do it.
The killer could still be out there in this neighborhood, man.
I got to see if history's repeating itself.
Some killers like to leave clues for detectives like it's a big game.
I'm not playing.
Here.
Talking about the first pole? Just this side of it is where her driver's license, credit cards, stuff like that is dropped.
And that's where somebody smashed her in the head and took her, I think.
You don't want a piece of pizza? I just want your pepperoni.
Give me your pepperoni.
Well, just touch all of them.
Touch them all.
It's 2:00 in the morning.
We still got a little traffic out here.
You know, she was abducted on a Friday, I think.
Nighttime? Daytime? Well, evil seeks darkness, homey.
Nothing but money around here.
I mean, look at the houses.
A beautiful area to live in.
But a bunch of skeezes and weirdos out there at night.
Yeah.
I mean, what better place to come abduct somebody? Oh, this is like shooting fish in barrel.
But, I mean, what would possess her to walk around at night? Or ask yourself this question.
Was she by herself? I do ask myself that.
And I told you This is a mind virus.
This case is really It's starting to get to me.
Flier getting torn down, it totally raised my eyebrow.
What does it mean? If the same person that took down those fliers is the same person that killed her, I mean, maybe he still lives in the same area.
It's gonna be getting light out in a little bit, dude.
Let's roll out.
We just need a little hint.
We need some clue to help us know more about the killer.
We got to wake up in three hours.
You ain't got to tell me twice.
- Aubrey? - Yes, sir.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay, cool.
We're on our way back.
Who knows? Maybe she'll give us a lead.
You know, each person that Eugenie touched in her life has vital information to her case.
Maybe someone'll remember something that they didn't remember back then or seen something this time that they could tell us that they forgot.
That may be the thing that solves this case.
I understand you saw the flier and could provide some information about Eugenie.
Shortly before she disappeared, she started acting a little odd.
She'd walk past the house very late in the evening.
And one evening, she was getting out of her car.
She had several bags of groceries.
And so I went across the street to help her carry them.
So I said, "why are you parking over here?" And she says, "I'm scared.
" She said somebody was following her.
She said, "I don't want to park in front of the house.
" I don't want him to know where I live.
" - Wow.
- I said, "who's following you?" And she didn't know.
She just said some guy.
She was just skittish.
She was scared.
She looked like a puppy that had been hit by a newspaper too many times.
Whenever you were walking around the lakes, did you ever see anything odd, out of the ordinary, anything that disturbed you? There were some mornings I would see the same truck over and over again.
One morning, I saw him kind of following me.
He was driving very slowly around the lake.
But he was staying behind me and to the side.
And it really kind of bothered me that he was matching my speed and staying right there.
So I just kind of cut through somebody's yard.
I'm pretty sure it was a silver- or gray-colored Nissan truck.
Silver or gray Nissan truck.
That was a little creepy.
This could be our best lead.
There were a lot of perverts on that lake in 1997.
We better start looking for some perverted son of a bitches.
Poor Eugenie, thrown in a swamp in the bayou.
It's such a perfect area for the bad guys to dump their victims.
And the bugs, alligators It's perfect to eat up all your evidence on your case.
So it makes it that much harder to work.
You know, in this case with Eugenie, we had no murder weapon to put anyone at the scene or at her residence where she came up missing or on the lakefront.
That's what we need to find out.
Yes, sir.
Major, what's going on with the boisfontaine case? It's not a perfect murder.
You know, somebody had to mess up somewhere.
I mean, if we can find some physical evidence at that crime scene where she was dumped, it may lead us in the right direction.
There's a company called aqua survey.
What they do is they have a lot of high-tech sonar equipment.
I'd like for to get them in and scan that area.
He may have discarded her and the weapon there.
It's worth a shot going out there and scanning this area.
Who knows what we'll find? - You got a minute, dude? - Yeah.
I've been doing some searching on just different sex offenders and stuff like that in the Stanford area back in '97.
Came up with one dude He was actually arrested in the park area of Stanford.
What? - What he got arrested for? - Obscenity.
There were some mornings I would see the same truck over and over again.
One morning, I saw him kind of following me.
He was driving very slowly around the lake.
That was a little creepy.
So, he must have been showing himself to somebody or something.
I looked him up, ran his criminal history.
He has a good, little rap sheet Battery with dangerous weapon, stuff like that.
But the obscenity was what caught my eye.
When was he arrested? June 2nd of '97, 11 days before she disappeared.
Work history shows he used to work at St.
Gabriel in the bayou Manchac area, which is where we found her.
Looks like somebody we need to get in here and talk to.
We're gonna go find him.
We got to find him and sit him down and see what he knows.
He could be our guy.
So, we got a lead on a guy.
He fits a lot of the profile to what happened with Eugenie.
Up here on the right.
Detective St.
Angelo with the sheriff's office.
- How you doing? - Leslie Bradford.
We got a subpoena to speak with you.
We'd like for you to come back to our office in Iberville parish.
How long would it take for you to get ready and follow us over there? - All right.
- We'll be waiting.
Follow the black Tahoe.
- We got you.
- Okay.
What do you think? He lived blocks away from Eugenie.
He was arrested for masturbating in a park in the same area that she came up missing.
He even worked near bayou Manchac.
He could possibly be our guy.
Have you ever been arrested before? Uh, yeah.
For what? Golly, I can't even remember, man.
It's been so long ago.
In 1971, you was arrested for aggravated assault.
1990, aggravated battery with a dangerous weapon again.
You tried to hit somebody with a baseball bat? Not me.
You don't hit people with objects? Unh-unh.
- Brass knuckles or something? - No.
All right.
What about June of 1997? Obscenity.
You pled to disturbing the peace.
All right, I'm-a help you remember a little bit.
It says that on 6-2 of '97, at 900 Stanford on a bench I had just stopped there, you know? And police pulled up, you know? Came over to me.
Everything progressed from there.
How often did you go out there by those lsu lakes? - You fish out there? - Oh, yeah.
Like I said, that's right where I was raised up there, you know? Born and raised in that area.
You ever seen that lady? No, I don't know her.
This lady used to always walk around the lsu lakes.
No, I haven't seen her.
You familiar with bayou Manchac? Yeah, I've gone to Manchac.
I used to go straight up Perkins road and What's that, bluff road? To get to alligator bayou.
Tell me what kind of vehicles you had in 1997.
Pickup truck, okay.
I'm pretty sure it was a silver- or gray-colored Nissan truck.
Silver or gray Nissan truck.
Somebody said they saw you in a silver pickup truck in 1997.
No, never had a white one.
This is bayou Manchac.
I don't remember seeing all that trash and stuff like that in there when I was fishing and stuff around there.
You don't remember seeing that body in there? A body? Yeah, that body, that corpse right there.
Mnh-mnh.
I don't like the way he looked at that.
Most people would say, "man, I don't want to see this.
" He didn't make any reaction at all.
He just looked at it kind of cold-heartedly.
- Is that her legs? - Yeah.
Does it bother you to look at this? No, not really.
Really? Why? Bothers me to look at it, and I've seen a bunch of them.
I see dead bodies all the time, and it bothers me to look at somebody dead that got killed.
But, you know, you different from me, you know? Because I haven't seen this particular Hold on.
Stop.
How am I different 'Cause I have compassion for a human? No, no, don't get me wrong.
I don't see any compassion in your eyes looking at this.
I haven't seen this particular "whatever you want to call it" before in my life.
I don't see any compassion in you.
Like, you don't give a [bleep.]
that you looking at a dead body.
That is just a picture.
It's real pictures.
That's a real skull.
You all right over there? I make you nervous? Have you ever hurt anybody? Does it bother you to look at this? No, not really.
That is just a picture.
It's real pictures.
That's a real skull.
I For whatever, I can't say I have.
I'm not being cynical about anything, but do you find her attractive? Not really.
Have you ever hit a woman before? Nope.
Would you be willing to submit a DNA sample, - reference sample to us? - Mm-hmm.
Or help us with our investigation? - No, I wouldn't mind.
- All right.
What's y'all thoughts? I think he's cold-hearted.
I mean, them pictures didn't bother him a bit.
I think he's ashamed of what did.
He didn't want to really talk about that, but I don't like the way he looked at that picture.
All we can do at this particular time is get DNA from our suspect and wait for the results.
We looking at probably two male suspects.
So, sooner or later, somebody's gonna break.
It's hell when you hit a dead end.
But that's what happens when you work a case 18 years old like this one.
Here, chick, chick, chick, chick, chick, chick, chick.
I don't feel like I have a job.
I feel like I have a mission.
I would do anything to fulfill my promise.
I owe the family the truth of who killed they daughter.
Hi, Curtis.
Rodie Sanchez.
How are you? Doing well, doing well, Rodie.
Tried calling your mama.
I wanted to give you a call.
I've been thinking about her.
How's she doing? She has some good days and some bad days.
We've had a lot of tragedy in the family.
Eugenie's death was tough on mom, so it's a lot of time to heal.
I don't ever stop thinking about Eugenie and that day.
Is there new evidence or? No, buddy.
Nothing since we last talked.
I'm fixing to do something about that for us If at all possible, I am.
Mom would be happy to know that maybe there's some closure to this after all these years.
I agree.
Closure would be good.
Yes.
I hope you'll stay in touch with me and let me know how things have been going.
Give mom my love, and bye-bye.
Rodie, thanks very much.
We'll talk soon.
What you say, Maj? You need to head back out to that crime scene again, Rodie.
And there'll be a company out there you're gonna meet up with called aqua survey.
I talked to the sheriff, and he gave me his blessing, said, "hey, go for it.
" Let's see if they can find anything that possibly could have been used as a murder weapon back in that time.
Hey, good, good.
Okay, I'll head across there now.
It's a long shot, but, you know, well worth trying.
In '97, what did y'all use to look for a murder weapon back then? Cadaver dogs and divers.
Other than that, we usually Weight on the end of a rope, buddy.
Yeah, a weight on the end of a rope, huh? - Yeah.
- Popping, huh? That's it.
That's all.
I hope this technology we got now, we can find it.
And if we find it, hey, thank God.
Just as long as we find it and can solve the case That's my main thing.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
This would be the spot.
- Right here? - Yeah.
I can still see her laying here.
I can see her clear as day.
We need something to help us narrow down our search.
And maybe there's something out at bayou Manchac.
I mean, it's hard enough as it is to commit a crime and not make a mistake.
It's very unlikely.
Appreciate y'all coming by to call.
Let me just give you a little briefing.
Eugenie was found probably Just head this way, feet this way in this area about right here.
We never found the weapon that actually killed her.
She had some blunt trauma to the back of the skull.
What kind of murder weapon are we looking for? I would say either a hammer or a tire tool.
Something probably sharp, compact, strong Metal object, maybe.
- So she was hit pretty hard.
- Oh, yes.
It had to be swung with enough force and carry enough blunt to break the skull through and through.
Wow.
Wow.
'Cause it cracked the inside, as well.
I want to cover every inch of this from that tree back there to maybe that tree over there.
Just turn over every leaf, every stick, every bottle, every branch Anything we could find pertaining to my case.
- Appreciate it.
Thank you, sir.
- Let's make it happen.
- Let's do it.
- Okay.
How y'all gonna get it done exactly, Scott? Well, first off, I want to do a sweep and clear off any surface clutter we see.
Be careful, now.
And Eric and I are gonna set up a two-man carry platform.
There we go.
Standing up.
Okay.
And we're gonna set up survey lines, and we're gonna follow that trying to cover 100%.
And you just pick it up and carry.
- Right.
- Gotcha.
Gotcha.
All right.
I think I'm comfortable here.
- How you feeling? - Good.
All right.
Let's turn around.
We can take the data that we're recording, analyze it, and hopefully have a good target list that we can work off of finding high-priority targets, something that might match up with a murder weapon.
Couple targets right there.
Yes, sir.
Okay, so, we surveyed this whole area.
- Okay.
- Every single one of these, we call these the blooms, the electromagnetic blooms.
That's where there's a metal object.
These are a high prioritized target.
That could be a hammer.
That could be a tire iron, all right? - So, there's two.
- Mm-hmm.
- Three.
Four.
- Right.
Three, four.
- Five.
- Five.
- Oh, look at that.
- Yeah.
Yeah.
Couple more all the way up at the end here.
Yeah.
Those, gentlemen, could be a hammer.
Dude, what are you doing with all that butter? You can hear your arteries clogging up now.
They But this opens your arteries up.
That doesn't open your arteries up.
Let's the blood slide through there, huh? Speeds it up as it goes through the arteries? Good point, major.
I know his health is a big issue.
He hides that well.
But, I mean, I see straight through it.
Can you order him to eat better if you're gonna put us on this case together? What I can tell him I say, "dude, is your health gonna hold up?" Here he is shoving down 8 pounds of butter.
- I want you to eat some fruit.
- Ain't gonna happen.
At 61 years old, ain't never ate a piece of fruit.
You probably right, too.
- I haven't! - That's ridiculous.
Next step is we're gonna around to each one of these locations.
We're gonna pin it, we're gonna flag it, and we're gonna dig it.
- Let's do it.
- Okay.
One and two are right over here.
Stick your shovel in there, you're gonna hit something.
Wire? - What do we got there? - Barbed wire.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, let's go on to the next one.
[beeps.]
Got something right here.
Oh, hit something, Aubrey.
Grill.
- There we go.
- Ah, there it is.
It's just one thing left right there.
High-priority target number 4.
Start digging in here and see what we got.
There's something metal right here.
Yeah, there is sure enough.
Go right here.
What do we got? Look like an old shackle for a chain that's run through.
It's blunt.
It could be used.
I could kill somebody with this.
Could do some damage.
It's got a point on it.
That spot on the skull maybe.
So that could be the murder weapon.
We'll get Lori to take look at it and see what she can do with it.
We have may have a murder weapon.
But in order to me to solve a case, it's gonna take the right person to open his mouth and speak about it.
You never know who a murderer is.
It could be you neighbor.
Who knows? It could be your best friend.
Hi, Rodie.
It's Kathy.
The last time that we met, it kind of stirred up some more memories.
Can we meet up again? Did she ever tell you of anyone that she was dating? I really don't remember if she did or not.
I'm glad you called me and wanted to meet with me.
What's on your mind? Well, I'd gone to visit her on Memorial Day weekend, two weeks before she disappeared.
She told me she had been seeing somebody.
She said that she was dating a guy called Robert.
Wait a minute.
So, she was dating someone? Yeah, she was really excited.
Did she say how long she was dating this guy? I just remember that they were gonna have another date at the alligator bar.
Did you ever see her in your establishment? I don't remember her.
I don't remember her.
It wasn't a place that Eugenie would usually go.
You're the first person that ever told us anything about her dating or going on a date.
She didn't give you any last name or tell you what he did or what kind of work? Yeah, see, I don't remember any of that.
Anyone else I can talk to about Robert or? Well, ferbee.
Yeah, what about her? She was in the sorority with us.
How could I get in touch with her? - I think she died of cancer.
- Oh.
But she and Eugenie at the time were close.
She confided in Ferbee a pretty good bit.
Oh, yeah.
Does Ferbee have any family I can talk to? She did have a daughter.
We got something.
Whoa.
I'm not quite sure what it is.
It looks familiar, like I've seen something like this before, maybe in the cattle or horse industry, like a coupling.
Or maybe it's a stretched-out link.
So, are you thinking in terms of, like, blunt-force trauma to the head? - Right.
- The tool used? It was right where the crime scene could have been.
And, obviously, you can see Look at that edge right there.
what kind of trauma this could cause.
Yeah, 'cause that's something that looks like it could have made this injury.
This surface right here, that's oblong and oval.
Here's a diagram of the injury.
And it's just a perfectly oval area.
If you could just maybe get the with the lab.
It was right there it was in the ground where the body is.
The tool department could maybe give us some kind of I.
D.
On this.
This case is solvable.
But it's gonna take the right lead.
It's the nature of the beast.
You have to exhaust every lead good or bad.
That's your job as detective.
What I'm here for is to talk to you a little bit about Eugenie.
My mom and her were sorority sisters at ls And they remained friends after all those years.
But she always seemed private, and she always seemed like there was just kind of something she didn't want to, like, let on to.
One conversation I do remember them having 'Cause me and my sister were there Was my mom was getting onto her for being so private.
She was dating a guy by the name of Robert.
Are you familiar with that? That was why they were getting in a fight.
We were helping her get ready for a date with Robert, and she wouldn't give my mom any kind of information about him, where they were going.
Didn't say Robert's last name or what Robert did? No.
Nothing.
She was worried.
- Who this guy was - She had no idea.
- Yeah.
Did she ever go? - Mm-hmm.
She did.
I hate to even say it, because I don't I don't know if my memory's serving me exactly correct, but I really want to say that that was the night before she went missing.
Wow.
One of the things my mom said She was just like, "I'm pretty sure we helped her get ready for her murder.
" We got a name now Robert.
We gonna find Robert if it's the last thing we do.
I certainly hope that this is the weapon.
I could kill somebody with this.
Have you ever heard of anybody by the name of Robert that Eugenie may have been seeing? We don't even have a last name, nor do we even have a description.
How many Roberts you think they got living in east Baton Rouge? This is Robert.
I know that.
Let's go get him.
Yeah, that's him.
We'd like to talk to you a minute, sir.
Well, look at it.
- I'm looking at it.
- Don't remember that, either? Man: The dude's got [bleep.]
selective amnesia.
A lot of times, you just want to give up and stop.
Behind that church is a horrible-ass smell.
Something dead.
If that's a kid, I don't know if I can deal, bro.
Two months after she went missing, her body was found in iberville parish.
Aubrey, I want you to work with rodie on this.
Why you didn't solve it in '97? There's a lot of stuff I could have done better.
Back in 1997, that's the same damn time that we them [bleep.]
damn serial killers running around.
Derrick Todd Lee murdered five women in the Baton Rouge area, but they believe he could be involved in a string of other murders.
And the advancement in DNA and all I think the case can be solved.
They had the DNA while he was there in custody.
And he was excluded.
Now, what we did find is that it is a mixture of potentially two to three males.
From them results, we got our work cut out for us.
My girl, my girl Don't lie to me Tell me, where did you sleep last night? Sweetheart.
Give me some ice, baby.
Just some ice.
- I'll get you some.
- Okay.
You're the only man I know that got six of everything.
You got six salt shakers, six pepper shakers.
I think I had a garage sale, and I'm not lying to you.
I think I had four or five toasters still in the box.
I've been married six times.
Six.
Seven in Louisiana I think they don't acknowledge them after that.
What about the new wife? Is she gonna be okay with you pulling them files up? Yeah, believe me, we had a long talk about it.
And she understands how much this case meant to me.
Yeah, you got two DNA profiles in her underwear, you said? - Yes.
- Gang rape? Very possible.
Eugenie boisfontaine She was abducted in 1997 from the lsu lakefront.
Three months later, she was found brutally murdered.
Her body was dumped in a raggedy-ass killing field over there in bayou manchac like a piece of trash.
I hold Eugenie in my heart because of the life I realize she lived and how lonely she really was.
I don't think anybody has to be lonely in this world.
Eugenie came to lsu, got to be in a sorority with her friends.
And after she graduated, she got married.
Marriage didn't work out.
Divorced.
Came back to lsu, where she had went to school.
I think the poor girl, after she got divorced I think she felt she lost everything in the world.
And I've never said this before, but I'll say why eugenie's case meant so much to me Eugenie reminds me of me.
Through my different marriages and divorces, I've been lonely several times.
I know what it is to search for a friend when you're down.
She had no one to be there every night for her, to hold her hand and say, "it's okay.
" And the only person that she had found that showed her a little bit of sympathy, I think Was the one who killed her.
Was she dating anybody? We don't know.
We need to look back into that again, whether it was just someone she had met one particular night, whether she had a boyfriend.
That certainly could be a person of interest to us.
So, apparently she's having sex with somebody, whether it be consensual or non-consensual.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
To know who your killer is, you got to know the victim.
You have to almost put yourself there.
You have to know what her lifestyle was, what she did on a daily basis, who she seen, who she hung around with.
18 years Somebody might want to talk now.
Somebody might have seen something, but didn't want at that particular time to get involved.
What you're gonna need to do is you're gonna need to go back and retrace everything.
Start from the beginning.
While you do that, I'm gonna talk to the sheriff about reinvestigating the dump site.
Who knows? They may have dropped something that the department back in the day didn't find.
The thing about it is, if you got two or three profiles in there, somebody had to mess up somewhere.
And we could use a lead.
Tomorrow, I'm gonna get with Aubrey.
We'll go out to where she lived.
You got Aubrey with you.
He's young.
He's fresh.
- He's a go-getter.
- He's a go-getter.
He's not gonna be scared to go.
And he wants to go, go, go all the time.
Aubrey has ambition.
It's a beast out there.
We try to prepare ourselves every way as a cop Mentally, physically, emotionally.
I always question, when's my card gonna get pulled? My dad, he was in law enforcement.
I'd see his patrol car.
And mom was a cop, as well.
She used to work on the ambulance service.
I guess it was in my blood.
Two things I carry with me every day The fact that death is certain, life is not.
I lost my mom at a young age.
I was 13 when she passed away.
She was 32.
Told my mom that I was going to seek a medical profession and find a cure for cancer that took her from us.
And it wasn't feasible, you know, trying to pay for college and raise an 8-year-old brother.
Somebody's got to protect people, right? That's what I made a commitment to.
Cancer took my mom from me and my brother and my family.
Another monster took Eugenie from her family.
I'd like to know what happened to Eugenie.
80% of women that are murdered, their lovers committed the crime.
We could be looking at a crime of passion.
That's why it's the utmost important that we find out who she was dating or who she was seeing after her divorce.
Nobody's here, Aubrey.
Do you remember her walking around here? - I do.
- You ever seen her walking with anyone other than herself? No, I never saw her with anybody but herself.
Did Eugenie have a boyfriend? I did not know of anyone specific that she had found.
It's a possibility that Eugenie's killer could have been a lover.
Relationships go bad all the time.
And in the heat of the moment, homicides happen.
Do you think she changed after the divorce? Yes, I do.
She wasn't very kept up.
Just not herself.
So it was a pretty bad breakup.
Yes.
Her husband left her.
Please leave a message at the tone.
[beep.]
St.
Angelo: Yes, sir.
How you doing? Aubrey St.
Angelo, homicide division.
We are reopening your ex-wife's case, and I'd like to speak with you.
So I'd appreciate it if you'd give me a call.
Did she ever, at any time, tell you of anyone that she was dating? I really don't remember if she did or not.
No one ever seen her with a man.
No one.
But if there's three DNA and none of your close sorority friends and neighbors ever seen anyone come to your house or you never talked about dating anyone or they never heard you say anything, that's why this case is so hard to solve.
More than one man's DNA could mean she was gang-raped, or it could mean she had consensual sex with someone one day and was raped and killed the next.
It doesn't matter how quiet you are.
You're going to meet people.
You're divorced for a couple years.
You're lonely.
You want to have sex.
I mean, come on.
Everybody that we talked to that said that she was quiet and this and that, were mostly her friends.
And just to say, if you were killed and you were a little promiscuous or wild or something like that, 9 times out of 10, your friends aren't gonna run your name through the mud.
And who knows? Maybe she was seeing people we didn't know.
Maybe she wanted to keep that to her personal self.
Lots of curveballs in this one.
Definitely.
This investigation is fixing to get very dark and very, very deep.
Take you now to Baton Rouge, by the lakefront where she was abducted.
There's a couple strange things out there that happened that I want your opinion on.
What you mean by strange? I'll show you when I get there.
Show you.
This is it right here.
Aubrey needs to know everything I know and everything I did on this case because he has a new, fresh, young set of eyes.
'Cause it may take that to solve this case.
I think she was abducted right here in this area.
Her credit cards and driver's license and stuff were found right up in here.
Probably someone stopped to talk to her.
And good-hearted as she was, thought she found a friend.
Ended up knocking her behind the head and throwing her in that raggedy-ass canal that I found her in.
Walk this way.
I'm gonna show you something else.
See this particular pole here? We put posters up, fliers.
When we put them up, come back the next day or the day after, they were gone.
Not one, not two, not three, but five different occasions.
Like guilt, like can't see her face? Good possibility.
- And that's odd, dude.
- Very.
To find her flier taken off that pole not one, not two, but four or five times, that tells me that that probably was the killer pulling that off.
He came back.
He was trying to test me and say, "you can't catch me.
" Killers will go on back to the crime scene and watch behind trees or whatever they can do to see what we doing.
And probably go back and laugh and say, "hey, I got them.
" I'll kill another one.
They ain't got me yet.
" Well, put another one back up.
Let's see if we can smoke him out if he's still out there.
Let's do it.
You know, I think Eugenie's killer's still out there.
Maybe he still lives in the same area.
Come on.
Come back and get it.
I'll be waiting for you.
I'll promise you one thing Whoever you are, you're not smarter than me.
Sooner or later, I'm gonna get your ass.
Oh, my brother You've fallen from grace Come on! Yeah, my baby.
That there's the baby.
That's daddy's old buddy.
I really don't want to get rid of him when we move.
- Have you found a house yet? - I have found a house.
- You finally found one - I found it.
- After all the houses.
- It's beautiful.
Tell me about it.
It's a lot of space for us.
You can have your own space.
I'm gonna have an office to do all my police work? No police work.
No police work.
- No police work? - No police work.
You know, you're supposed to be retired, but You're not.
You're not.
You're still tied up.
You're tied up in everything.
I know, Leda, but you got to understand I've been doing this since I was 18 years old.
I've been married six times.
I live to work.
And my wives, they had to suffer.
And that's why I'm on number 6, I guess.
It's just time.
It's time for you to relax.
It's time for retiring.
It's time for, you know, calmness in your life.
After this case, my baby.
I'm not gonna lose this wife over law enforcement.
That ain't gonna happen to me.
But I'm not gonna be happy until I know who killed Eugenie.
Don't overdo it, Rodie.
- Love you.
- Love you, too, baby.
Hey, watch that.
Please leave a message at the tone.
Before I came to homicide, Zack simmers was one of the first guys I got to train.
Turn in right here.
We chased bad guys together.
I'd trust Zack with my life.
Lot of freaks hang out here at night.
Turn in.
So, when rodie's not around, this case is gonna be handled one way or another.
It's assigned to me, and I'll take care of it.
In '97, Rodie and them were out here canvassing the area.
They put some fliers up.
One pole right there in particular, the flier kept getting ripped down.
They were gone.
Not one, not two, not three, but five different occasions.
We put up some fliers this morning.
Tonight, I want to see if they come down again.
Right.
I want to set up surveillance on that pole.
It's night vision.
- Cool? - Let's do it.
The killer could still be out there in this neighborhood, man.
I got to see if history's repeating itself.
Some killers like to leave clues for detectives like it's a big game.
I'm not playing.
Here.
Talking about the first pole? Just this side of it is where her driver's license, credit cards, stuff like that is dropped.
And that's where somebody smashed her in the head and took her, I think.
You don't want a piece of pizza? I just want your pepperoni.
Give me your pepperoni.
Well, just touch all of them.
Touch them all.
It's 2:00 in the morning.
We still got a little traffic out here.
You know, she was abducted on a Friday, I think.
Nighttime? Daytime? Well, evil seeks darkness, homey.
Nothing but money around here.
I mean, look at the houses.
A beautiful area to live in.
But a bunch of skeezes and weirdos out there at night.
Yeah.
I mean, what better place to come abduct somebody? Oh, this is like shooting fish in barrel.
But, I mean, what would possess her to walk around at night? Or ask yourself this question.
Was she by herself? I do ask myself that.
And I told you This is a mind virus.
This case is really It's starting to get to me.
Flier getting torn down, it totally raised my eyebrow.
What does it mean? If the same person that took down those fliers is the same person that killed her, I mean, maybe he still lives in the same area.
It's gonna be getting light out in a little bit, dude.
Let's roll out.
We just need a little hint.
We need some clue to help us know more about the killer.
We got to wake up in three hours.
You ain't got to tell me twice.
- Aubrey? - Yes, sir.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay, cool.
We're on our way back.
Who knows? Maybe she'll give us a lead.
You know, each person that Eugenie touched in her life has vital information to her case.
Maybe someone'll remember something that they didn't remember back then or seen something this time that they could tell us that they forgot.
That may be the thing that solves this case.
I understand you saw the flier and could provide some information about Eugenie.
Shortly before she disappeared, she started acting a little odd.
She'd walk past the house very late in the evening.
And one evening, she was getting out of her car.
She had several bags of groceries.
And so I went across the street to help her carry them.
So I said, "why are you parking over here?" And she says, "I'm scared.
" She said somebody was following her.
She said, "I don't want to park in front of the house.
" I don't want him to know where I live.
" - Wow.
- I said, "who's following you?" And she didn't know.
She just said some guy.
She was just skittish.
She was scared.
She looked like a puppy that had been hit by a newspaper too many times.
Whenever you were walking around the lakes, did you ever see anything odd, out of the ordinary, anything that disturbed you? There were some mornings I would see the same truck over and over again.
One morning, I saw him kind of following me.
He was driving very slowly around the lake.
But he was staying behind me and to the side.
And it really kind of bothered me that he was matching my speed and staying right there.
So I just kind of cut through somebody's yard.
I'm pretty sure it was a silver- or gray-colored Nissan truck.
Silver or gray Nissan truck.
That was a little creepy.
This could be our best lead.
There were a lot of perverts on that lake in 1997.
We better start looking for some perverted son of a bitches.
Poor Eugenie, thrown in a swamp in the bayou.
It's such a perfect area for the bad guys to dump their victims.
And the bugs, alligators It's perfect to eat up all your evidence on your case.
So it makes it that much harder to work.
You know, in this case with Eugenie, we had no murder weapon to put anyone at the scene or at her residence where she came up missing or on the lakefront.
That's what we need to find out.
Yes, sir.
Major, what's going on with the boisfontaine case? It's not a perfect murder.
You know, somebody had to mess up somewhere.
I mean, if we can find some physical evidence at that crime scene where she was dumped, it may lead us in the right direction.
There's a company called aqua survey.
What they do is they have a lot of high-tech sonar equipment.
I'd like for to get them in and scan that area.
He may have discarded her and the weapon there.
It's worth a shot going out there and scanning this area.
Who knows what we'll find? - You got a minute, dude? - Yeah.
I've been doing some searching on just different sex offenders and stuff like that in the Stanford area back in '97.
Came up with one dude He was actually arrested in the park area of Stanford.
What? - What he got arrested for? - Obscenity.
There were some mornings I would see the same truck over and over again.
One morning, I saw him kind of following me.
He was driving very slowly around the lake.
That was a little creepy.
So, he must have been showing himself to somebody or something.
I looked him up, ran his criminal history.
He has a good, little rap sheet Battery with dangerous weapon, stuff like that.
But the obscenity was what caught my eye.
When was he arrested? June 2nd of '97, 11 days before she disappeared.
Work history shows he used to work at St.
Gabriel in the bayou Manchac area, which is where we found her.
Looks like somebody we need to get in here and talk to.
We're gonna go find him.
We got to find him and sit him down and see what he knows.
He could be our guy.
So, we got a lead on a guy.
He fits a lot of the profile to what happened with Eugenie.
Up here on the right.
Detective St.
Angelo with the sheriff's office.
- How you doing? - Leslie Bradford.
We got a subpoena to speak with you.
We'd like for you to come back to our office in Iberville parish.
How long would it take for you to get ready and follow us over there? - All right.
- We'll be waiting.
Follow the black Tahoe.
- We got you.
- Okay.
What do you think? He lived blocks away from Eugenie.
He was arrested for masturbating in a park in the same area that she came up missing.
He even worked near bayou Manchac.
He could possibly be our guy.
Have you ever been arrested before? Uh, yeah.
For what? Golly, I can't even remember, man.
It's been so long ago.
In 1971, you was arrested for aggravated assault.
1990, aggravated battery with a dangerous weapon again.
You tried to hit somebody with a baseball bat? Not me.
You don't hit people with objects? Unh-unh.
- Brass knuckles or something? - No.
All right.
What about June of 1997? Obscenity.
You pled to disturbing the peace.
All right, I'm-a help you remember a little bit.
It says that on 6-2 of '97, at 900 Stanford on a bench I had just stopped there, you know? And police pulled up, you know? Came over to me.
Everything progressed from there.
How often did you go out there by those lsu lakes? - You fish out there? - Oh, yeah.
Like I said, that's right where I was raised up there, you know? Born and raised in that area.
You ever seen that lady? No, I don't know her.
This lady used to always walk around the lsu lakes.
No, I haven't seen her.
You familiar with bayou Manchac? Yeah, I've gone to Manchac.
I used to go straight up Perkins road and What's that, bluff road? To get to alligator bayou.
Tell me what kind of vehicles you had in 1997.
Pickup truck, okay.
I'm pretty sure it was a silver- or gray-colored Nissan truck.
Silver or gray Nissan truck.
Somebody said they saw you in a silver pickup truck in 1997.
No, never had a white one.
This is bayou Manchac.
I don't remember seeing all that trash and stuff like that in there when I was fishing and stuff around there.
You don't remember seeing that body in there? A body? Yeah, that body, that corpse right there.
Mnh-mnh.
I don't like the way he looked at that.
Most people would say, "man, I don't want to see this.
" He didn't make any reaction at all.
He just looked at it kind of cold-heartedly.
- Is that her legs? - Yeah.
Does it bother you to look at this? No, not really.
Really? Why? Bothers me to look at it, and I've seen a bunch of them.
I see dead bodies all the time, and it bothers me to look at somebody dead that got killed.
But, you know, you different from me, you know? Because I haven't seen this particular Hold on.
Stop.
How am I different 'Cause I have compassion for a human? No, no, don't get me wrong.
I don't see any compassion in your eyes looking at this.
I haven't seen this particular "whatever you want to call it" before in my life.
I don't see any compassion in you.
Like, you don't give a [bleep.]
that you looking at a dead body.
That is just a picture.
It's real pictures.
That's a real skull.
You all right over there? I make you nervous? Have you ever hurt anybody? Does it bother you to look at this? No, not really.
That is just a picture.
It's real pictures.
That's a real skull.
I For whatever, I can't say I have.
I'm not being cynical about anything, but do you find her attractive? Not really.
Have you ever hit a woman before? Nope.
Would you be willing to submit a DNA sample, - reference sample to us? - Mm-hmm.
Or help us with our investigation? - No, I wouldn't mind.
- All right.
What's y'all thoughts? I think he's cold-hearted.
I mean, them pictures didn't bother him a bit.
I think he's ashamed of what did.
He didn't want to really talk about that, but I don't like the way he looked at that picture.
All we can do at this particular time is get DNA from our suspect and wait for the results.
We looking at probably two male suspects.
So, sooner or later, somebody's gonna break.
It's hell when you hit a dead end.
But that's what happens when you work a case 18 years old like this one.
Here, chick, chick, chick, chick, chick, chick, chick.
I don't feel like I have a job.
I feel like I have a mission.
I would do anything to fulfill my promise.
I owe the family the truth of who killed they daughter.
Hi, Curtis.
Rodie Sanchez.
How are you? Doing well, doing well, Rodie.
Tried calling your mama.
I wanted to give you a call.
I've been thinking about her.
How's she doing? She has some good days and some bad days.
We've had a lot of tragedy in the family.
Eugenie's death was tough on mom, so it's a lot of time to heal.
I don't ever stop thinking about Eugenie and that day.
Is there new evidence or? No, buddy.
Nothing since we last talked.
I'm fixing to do something about that for us If at all possible, I am.
Mom would be happy to know that maybe there's some closure to this after all these years.
I agree.
Closure would be good.
Yes.
I hope you'll stay in touch with me and let me know how things have been going.
Give mom my love, and bye-bye.
Rodie, thanks very much.
We'll talk soon.
What you say, Maj? You need to head back out to that crime scene again, Rodie.
And there'll be a company out there you're gonna meet up with called aqua survey.
I talked to the sheriff, and he gave me his blessing, said, "hey, go for it.
" Let's see if they can find anything that possibly could have been used as a murder weapon back in that time.
Hey, good, good.
Okay, I'll head across there now.
It's a long shot, but, you know, well worth trying.
In '97, what did y'all use to look for a murder weapon back then? Cadaver dogs and divers.
Other than that, we usually Weight on the end of a rope, buddy.
Yeah, a weight on the end of a rope, huh? - Yeah.
- Popping, huh? That's it.
That's all.
I hope this technology we got now, we can find it.
And if we find it, hey, thank God.
Just as long as we find it and can solve the case That's my main thing.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
This would be the spot.
- Right here? - Yeah.
I can still see her laying here.
I can see her clear as day.
We need something to help us narrow down our search.
And maybe there's something out at bayou Manchac.
I mean, it's hard enough as it is to commit a crime and not make a mistake.
It's very unlikely.
Appreciate y'all coming by to call.
Let me just give you a little briefing.
Eugenie was found probably Just head this way, feet this way in this area about right here.
We never found the weapon that actually killed her.
She had some blunt trauma to the back of the skull.
What kind of murder weapon are we looking for? I would say either a hammer or a tire tool.
Something probably sharp, compact, strong Metal object, maybe.
- So she was hit pretty hard.
- Oh, yes.
It had to be swung with enough force and carry enough blunt to break the skull through and through.
Wow.
Wow.
'Cause it cracked the inside, as well.
I want to cover every inch of this from that tree back there to maybe that tree over there.
Just turn over every leaf, every stick, every bottle, every branch Anything we could find pertaining to my case.
- Appreciate it.
Thank you, sir.
- Let's make it happen.
- Let's do it.
- Okay.
How y'all gonna get it done exactly, Scott? Well, first off, I want to do a sweep and clear off any surface clutter we see.
Be careful, now.
And Eric and I are gonna set up a two-man carry platform.
There we go.
Standing up.
Okay.
And we're gonna set up survey lines, and we're gonna follow that trying to cover 100%.
And you just pick it up and carry.
- Right.
- Gotcha.
Gotcha.
All right.
I think I'm comfortable here.
- How you feeling? - Good.
All right.
Let's turn around.
We can take the data that we're recording, analyze it, and hopefully have a good target list that we can work off of finding high-priority targets, something that might match up with a murder weapon.
Couple targets right there.
Yes, sir.
Okay, so, we surveyed this whole area.
- Okay.
- Every single one of these, we call these the blooms, the electromagnetic blooms.
That's where there's a metal object.
These are a high prioritized target.
That could be a hammer.
That could be a tire iron, all right? - So, there's two.
- Mm-hmm.
- Three.
Four.
- Right.
Three, four.
- Five.
- Five.
- Oh, look at that.
- Yeah.
Yeah.
Couple more all the way up at the end here.
Yeah.
Those, gentlemen, could be a hammer.
Dude, what are you doing with all that butter? You can hear your arteries clogging up now.
They But this opens your arteries up.
That doesn't open your arteries up.
Let's the blood slide through there, huh? Speeds it up as it goes through the arteries? Good point, major.
I know his health is a big issue.
He hides that well.
But, I mean, I see straight through it.
Can you order him to eat better if you're gonna put us on this case together? What I can tell him I say, "dude, is your health gonna hold up?" Here he is shoving down 8 pounds of butter.
- I want you to eat some fruit.
- Ain't gonna happen.
At 61 years old, ain't never ate a piece of fruit.
You probably right, too.
- I haven't! - That's ridiculous.
Next step is we're gonna around to each one of these locations.
We're gonna pin it, we're gonna flag it, and we're gonna dig it.
- Let's do it.
- Okay.
One and two are right over here.
Stick your shovel in there, you're gonna hit something.
Wire? - What do we got there? - Barbed wire.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, let's go on to the next one.
[beeps.]
Got something right here.
Oh, hit something, Aubrey.
Grill.
- There we go.
- Ah, there it is.
It's just one thing left right there.
High-priority target number 4.
Start digging in here and see what we got.
There's something metal right here.
Yeah, there is sure enough.
Go right here.
What do we got? Look like an old shackle for a chain that's run through.
It's blunt.
It could be used.
I could kill somebody with this.
Could do some damage.
It's got a point on it.
That spot on the skull maybe.
So that could be the murder weapon.
We'll get Lori to take look at it and see what she can do with it.
We have may have a murder weapon.
But in order to me to solve a case, it's gonna take the right person to open his mouth and speak about it.
You never know who a murderer is.
It could be you neighbor.
Who knows? It could be your best friend.
Hi, Rodie.
It's Kathy.
The last time that we met, it kind of stirred up some more memories.
Can we meet up again? Did she ever tell you of anyone that she was dating? I really don't remember if she did or not.
I'm glad you called me and wanted to meet with me.
What's on your mind? Well, I'd gone to visit her on Memorial Day weekend, two weeks before she disappeared.
She told me she had been seeing somebody.
She said that she was dating a guy called Robert.
Wait a minute.
So, she was dating someone? Yeah, she was really excited.
Did she say how long she was dating this guy? I just remember that they were gonna have another date at the alligator bar.
Did you ever see her in your establishment? I don't remember her.
I don't remember her.
It wasn't a place that Eugenie would usually go.
You're the first person that ever told us anything about her dating or going on a date.
She didn't give you any last name or tell you what he did or what kind of work? Yeah, see, I don't remember any of that.
Anyone else I can talk to about Robert or? Well, ferbee.
Yeah, what about her? She was in the sorority with us.
How could I get in touch with her? - I think she died of cancer.
- Oh.
But she and Eugenie at the time were close.
She confided in Ferbee a pretty good bit.
Oh, yeah.
Does Ferbee have any family I can talk to? She did have a daughter.
We got something.
Whoa.
I'm not quite sure what it is.
It looks familiar, like I've seen something like this before, maybe in the cattle or horse industry, like a coupling.
Or maybe it's a stretched-out link.
So, are you thinking in terms of, like, blunt-force trauma to the head? - Right.
- The tool used? It was right where the crime scene could have been.
And, obviously, you can see Look at that edge right there.
what kind of trauma this could cause.
Yeah, 'cause that's something that looks like it could have made this injury.
This surface right here, that's oblong and oval.
Here's a diagram of the injury.
And it's just a perfectly oval area.
If you could just maybe get the with the lab.
It was right there it was in the ground where the body is.
The tool department could maybe give us some kind of I.
D.
On this.
This case is solvable.
But it's gonna take the right lead.
It's the nature of the beast.
You have to exhaust every lead good or bad.
That's your job as detective.
What I'm here for is to talk to you a little bit about Eugenie.
My mom and her were sorority sisters at ls And they remained friends after all those years.
But she always seemed private, and she always seemed like there was just kind of something she didn't want to, like, let on to.
One conversation I do remember them having 'Cause me and my sister were there Was my mom was getting onto her for being so private.
She was dating a guy by the name of Robert.
Are you familiar with that? That was why they were getting in a fight.
We were helping her get ready for a date with Robert, and she wouldn't give my mom any kind of information about him, where they were going.
Didn't say Robert's last name or what Robert did? No.
Nothing.
She was worried.
- Who this guy was - She had no idea.
- Yeah.
Did she ever go? - Mm-hmm.
She did.
I hate to even say it, because I don't I don't know if my memory's serving me exactly correct, but I really want to say that that was the night before she went missing.
Wow.
One of the things my mom said She was just like, "I'm pretty sure we helped her get ready for her murder.
" We got a name now Robert.
We gonna find Robert if it's the last thing we do.
I certainly hope that this is the weapon.
I could kill somebody with this.
Have you ever heard of anybody by the name of Robert that Eugenie may have been seeing? We don't even have a last name, nor do we even have a description.
How many Roberts you think they got living in east Baton Rouge? This is Robert.
I know that.
Let's go get him.
Yeah, that's him.
We'd like to talk to you a minute, sir.
Well, look at it.
- I'm looking at it.
- Don't remember that, either? Man: The dude's got [bleep.]
selective amnesia.
A lot of times, you just want to give up and stop.
Behind that church is a horrible-ass smell.
Something dead.
If that's a kid, I don't know if I can deal, bro.