Kindred Spirits (2016) s01e03 Episode Script

Amy: WHAT IS IN THE CLOSET? [ GARBLED VOICE .]
[ GASPS .]
THIS WAS HER GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE.
THEY FOUND HER ON THE FLOOR.
Amy: SHE'S HERE.
Berry: WHAT'S IN THE CLOSET? I DON'T KNOW.
Coffey: YOU THINK YOU'VE GO THIS ONE STORY OVER HERE.
BUT IT'S BIGGER.
-"YOU DO NOT GET OUT.
" -DID YOU MAKE IT WARM IN HERE? [ BOTH GASP .]
-- Captions by VITAC -- I'M AMY BRUNI.
AND I'M ADAM BERRY.
WE'VE SPEN A COMBINED 30 YEARS INVESTIGATING THE WORLD'S MOST TERRIFYING HAUNTINGS.
AFTER THOUSANDS OF CASES, WE ARE READY FOR OUR MOST IMPORTANT JOURNEY YET.
[ BOTH GASP .]
RESCUING FAMILIES TERRORIZED BY PARANORMAL ACTIVITY IN THEIR OWN HOMES.
WE UNCOVER THE TRUTH BEHIND THE HAUNTING TO HELP FAMILIES RECLAIM THEIR HOMES THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND THEIR LIVES.
CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS WE'VE BEEN CALLED HERE BY A WOMAN NAMED KRISTY.
SHE HAS TWO KIDS.
ONE'S 8.
ONE IS 5.
SHE'S EXTREMELY NERVOUS.
THEY'VE BEEN SEEING THIS SHADOW FIGURE.
THEY CALL I THE SHADOW MAN.
WANDERS AROUND THE HOUSE? YEAH.
I MEAN, THEY'VE SEEN HIM IN THEIR ROOMS.
SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL HER KIDS.
SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THIS THING IS THAT THEY'VE BEEN SEEING.
SHE WANTS HER KIDS NOWHERE NEAR THE INVESTIGATION.
I THINK THAT SHE'S NERVOUS TO, LIKE, FIND OUT WHO IT IS.
I THINK SHE'S NERVOUS TO HAVE IT IN HER HOUSE, BUT SHE'S ALSO NERVOUS TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT.
SHE'S SCARED.
I THINK HER KIDS ARE SCARED.
AND SHE WANTS ANSWERS FOR THEM.
DOES SHE HAVE ANY IDEA WHO SHE THINKS IT IS? SHE THINKS IT MIGH BE HER GRANDMOTHER.
THIS WAS HER GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE.
OH, OKAY.
SHE AND HER GRANDMOTHER HAD A BIG FALLING OUT.
AND SHE HADN'T TALKED TO HER GRANDMOTHER IN YEARS.
SHE WAS NEVER ABLE TO GET CLOSURE.
AND THEN HER GRANDMOTHER PASSED AWAY.
HER FAMILY CONVINCED HER TO BUY THE HOME.
SHE WANTED TO PATCH THINGS UP.
AND HER GRANDMOTHER NEVER DID.
GRANDMOTHER WAS LIKE, "NO, NO, NO.
" WOW.
-YEAH, SO -THAT'S COLD.
SO SIGNS ARE POINTING TOWARD THE GRANDMA RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE MOST LIKELY SUSPECT.
BUT, AS WE'VE LEARNED, THE MOST LIKELY SUSPEC IS NOT ALWAYS WHO IT TURNS OUT TO BE.
Bruni: IT'S IMPORTAN WHEN WE DO THESE CASES TO NOT ASSUME WE KNOW WHO IS THERE.
-HI.
-I'M KRISTY.
Bruni: I REALIZE A LO OF THESE FAMILIES WE DEAL WITH DO THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHO OR WHA IS IN THEIR HOME.
BUT WE'VE JUST FOUND, IN SO MANY CASES, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFEREN THAN WHAT THEY EXPECTED, OR THERE'S MORE THERE THAN WHAT THEY REALIZED.
I KNOW WE TALKED ON THE PHONE, AND WE E-MAILED A FEW TIMES.
BUT THIS IS JUS KIND OF OUR CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE HOUSE WITH YOU.
AND YOU CAN JUS KINDA TELL US AREAS THAT THINGS HAVE HAPPENED.
WHAT KIND OF ACTIVITY HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED IN THIS ROOM? UM, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I'M SITTING ON THIS COUCH, I CAN HEAR NOISES COMING FROM THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
SOMEBODY RUMMAGING AROUND.
I'LL TAKE A WALK BACK AND LOOK, AND OBVIOUSLY NOBODY'S THERE, AND THAT'S WHEN IT OCCURS TO ME THAT MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.
THIS IS THE MASTER BEDROOM.
MOST OF THE TIMES THAT I'M IN HERE, I HEAR NOISES COMING FROM THE CLOSET.
THAT'S WHERE I HEAR RUMMAGING AND STUFF.
IT'S STRANGE.
I ACTUALLY GET CHILLS.
I'VE TRIED TO REPLICATE IT.
I'VE TRIED TO FIGURE IT OUT.
WHAT'S MAKING THAT NOISE? I HAVE NO IDEA.
UM, LET'S GO LOOK REALLY QUICK.
MOVING LIKE THIS? IT FEELS LIKE SOMEBODY'S MOVING AROUND THE BASKET.
IT'S BEEN ALL DIFFEREN TIMES OF THE YEAR, DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY.
IT'S THE STRANGEST THING TO ME.
I REALLY DON' UNDERSTAND IT.
THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
ONCE A WEEK AT LEAST.
ACTUALLY, I'M LAYING HERE.
AND I HEAR IT SO MUCH, MORE THAN ONCE, THAT I'M LIKE, "ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S IT.
I'M OUTTA HERE.
" LIKE, I ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET UP AND LEAVE 'CAUSE IT -- IT REALLY BOTHERS ME.
NOW HAVE YOUR KIDS HAD ANY EXPERIENCES IN HERE? UM, YES.
ACTUALLY, MY SON SAW A SHADOW FIGURE, UM, IN THIS CORNER.
AND HE SAID I VERY MATTER-OF-FACTLY.
IT JUST WAS, UM, "HEY, THERE WAS A SHADOW FIGURE.
" HE WAS KINDA CONFUSED.
WHO USED TO SLEEP IN THIS ROOM BEFORE? GROWING UP, THIS WAS MY GRANDMA'S ROOM.
WHEN SHE PASSED AWAY, UM, THEY FOUND HER ON THE FLOOR OVER THERE.
SHE WAS EITHER GETTING INTO OR OUT OF BED.
COVERS WERE TURNED BACK.
SHE WAS IN HER PAJAMAS, RIGHT ALONG BY THE WINDOW THERE.
UM, SO WE'RE NO SURE WHAT HAPPENED.
WHAT WAS HER NAME? DOROTHY.
KRISTY SAYS HER KIDS REPORTED A SHADOW FIGURE FROM THE VERY SAME CORNER THE GRANDMOTHER PASSED.
WE NEED TO FIND OU IF THAT'S MORE THAN COINCIDENCE.
AND THIS IS CALEB'S ROOM.
MY DAUGHTER SAW, SHE SAID, A SHADOW MAN STANDING RIGHT HERE.
ACTUALLY, NOT THAT LONG AGO, MAYBE ONLY ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO, HE CAME OUT.
AND HE SAID THAT HE HEARD BREATHING IN HERE, WHICH I'D NEVER HEARD HIM SAY BEFORE.
THAT WAS A SURPRISE TO ALL OF US.
HE HAS NEVER HEARD THAT OR SAID THAT BEFORE.
YOU HAVE AN IDEA AS TO WHO YOU THINK COULD BE HERE, RIGHT? UM, I FEEL THAT IT'S MOS LIKELY MY GRANDMA WHO LIVED HERE.
I GREW UP COMING TO THIS HOUSE A LOT.
WE WERE VERY CLOSE.
SHE BABYSAT ME.
SO I WAS HERE ALL THE TIME, UNTIL 2005.
UM, SHE WENT INTO THE HOSPITAL TO HAVE A PROCEDURE DONE.
I DIDN'T GET TO VISIT HER IN THE HOSPITAL, BUT I DID CALL HER.
AND AFTER SHE GO OUT OF THE HOSPITAL, I CALLED HER UP ONE DAY.
AND SHE YELLED AT ME ABOUT SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW EVEN WHAT SHE SAID, AND HUNG UP ON ME.
AND SHE NEVER SPOKE TO ME AGAIN AFTER THAT.
I GOT MARRIED.
I HAD MY DAUGHTER.
EVEN THOSE EVENTS, IT WASN'T EVEN ENOUGH FOR HER TO WANNA BE IN MY LIFE.
AND IT SOUNDS CRAZY.
AND THAT'S -- I'M AFRAID OF, LIKE, ACTUALLY BEING JUDGED LIKE, "COME ON.
YOU HAD TO HAVE DONE SOMETHING MORE THAN THAT.
" BUT HONESTLY, THAT'S IT.
AND I THOUGHT, MAYBE SHE'S UNHAPPY THAT WE'RE HERE.
MAYBE SHE DOESN' WANT US HERE.
THAT WAS MY BIGGEST FEAR MOVING HERE IS, HOW DOES SHE FEEL? AND THERE'S NO WAY OF ME KNOWING THAT.
IF SHE'S HERE, I WANT TO KNOW THA SHE'S HAPPY MY FAMILY'S HERE.
AND I'M RAISING MY FAMILY HERE.
AND EVEN IF THIS WERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN BE ABLE TO TELL THIS STORY -WITHOUT CRYING.
-YEAH.
-AW, IT'S OKAY.
-NO, IT'S OKAY.
TELLING THIS STORY SO MANY TIMES.
AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BOTHERING ME.
I'VE TOLD -- YOU KNOW.
I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE HERE, AND IT'S GONNA BE FRESH FOR A WHILE, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT FOR A FEW DAYS.
BUT WE'RE GONNA GET THROUGH IT.
Bruni: WHAT WE'RE DOING, THERE'S JUST A LOT AT STAKE.
KRISTY'S SO EMOTIONALLY INVESTED IN THE OUTCOME.
WHAT IF WE DO GE AHOLD OF GRANDMA? -I THINK WE ARE GOOD.
-GOOD.
I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD PULL OUT ALL THE STOPS WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING, LIKE, DIRECT, CONVERSATIONS WITH WHATEVER IS HERE.
I REALLY WANNA DO THE SPIRIT BOX EXPERIMENT.
-OKAY.
-ARE YOU READY? YEAH.
I'M READY.
THE SPIRIT BOX SCANS THROUGH RADIO FREQUENCIES, SOMETIMES PICKING UP ON WORDS.
ONE OF US WEARS NOISE-PROOF HEADPHONES AND A BLINDFOLD AND JUST LISTENS TO THE SPIRIT BOX.
THE PERSON LISTENING SAYS WHATEVER THEY CAN DECIPHER.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE OTHER ONE OF US ASKS QUESTIONS.
AND WE HOPE THA THERE'S A CORRELATION.
I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS, PLEASE.
UM, YOU CAN TALK INTO THIS LITTLE BOX.
AND AMY IS, UH, HOPEFULLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU ANSWER.
OKAY? DOROTHY, ARE YOU HERE? "PREPARE.
" ARE YOU HERE, DOROTHY? "WHAT IS IT?" YES OR NO, DOROTHY.
ARE YOU HERE? "NO.
" IF YOU'RE NOT PAR OF THE FAMILY, CAN YOU TELL ME YOUR NAME? "AMY.
" DID YOU KNOW THAT IS AMY? "I DON'T.
" IS THIS MAKING ANY SENSE? IT'S STRANGE.
IT IS A LITTLE STRANGE.
WHY? I WAS LIKE, "WHAT'S YOUR NAME?" AND YOU WERE LIKE, "AMY.
" -REALLY? -YEAH.
AND THEN I WAS LIKE, "DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS AMY?" AND IT SAID, "I DON'T.
" THE SPIRIT BOX SAYS THE NAME AMY.
IT'S -- IT'S REALLY WEIRD.
AND IT DIDN'T SAY THAT IT WAS TALKING ABOUT HER.
SO WHO'S AMY? I HAVE NO IDEA.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT POINTS TO WHO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
-BUT THE -- [ THUD .]
-[ GASPS .]
-[BLEEP.]
WHAT WAS THAT? -IT WAS NOT.
-IT WAS COMING FROM DOWN THERE.
IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE I CAME FROM THIS CLOSET.
RIGHT HERE, RIGHT? DID ANYTHING FALL IN HERE? DO YOU SEE? I DON'T KNOW WHA MADE THAT SOUND.
IT WAS VERY BASSY.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT -- I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT WOULD MAKE THAT SOUND.
WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.
BUT WE'VE HEARD SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT SHE HEARS, SO WE KINDA KNOW NOW WHAT SHE'S EXPERIENCED.
THAT'S REALLY WEIRD.
YEAH.
I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY INVESTIGATE IN HERE FOR A WHILE.
I MEAN, BASICALLY THAT JUST LED US HERE.
ALL RIGHT, THIS IS AMY AND ADAM, AND WE ARE IN KRISTY'S BEDROOM.
CAN YOU MAKE A KNOCKING SOUND LIKE THIS? [ KNOCKS .]
WHAT IS IN THE CLOSET? DO YOU LOVE KRISTY? I'M SORRY.
WHAT WAS THAT? CUT, CUT.
IT DID SOUND LIKE TWO KNOCKS.
BUT, LIKE, EVP KNOCKS? WE CAN'T HEAR THEM TALKING.
SO WHY SHOULD WE HEAR -- ALWAYS HEAR THEM KNOCKING? IF IT'S TALKING TO US, IT'S GOTTA BE IN THE SAME PLANE, OR WHEREVER THEY ARE.
IT'S DOING WHA YOU'RE ASKING.
HERE.
LET'S TRY IT SOME MORE.
WHAT IS THAT? HOLY -- THAT'S FRIGHTENING.
I'VE NEVER IN MY LIFE HEARD THAT COME OUT OF THIS -- THE MACHINE.
WHAT'S IN THE CLOSET? I DON'T KNOW.
WE PLAY THAT FOR KRISTY, THAT'S GONNA BE INTENSE FOR HER.
THIS THING IS REALLY TRYING TO GRAB OUT ATTENTION.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A -- A GRUFF VOICE.
IT'S ANGRY AND ORNERY.
AND IT MATCHES THE DESCRIPTION OF HER GRANDMOTHER.
BUT WE HAVE NOTHING COMPLETE AND CONCLUSIVE.
WELL, NOW WE HAVE STUFF TO GO ON.
-WE HAVE A NAME.
-AMY.
YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO READ INTO IT.
RIGHT.
EITHER THEY'RE TALKING TO ME, OR MAYBE THERE IS AN ENTITY NAMED AMY.
IT'S WEIRD BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING THESE KNOCKS, AND THEN WE GET A GROWL RESPONSE ABOUT THE CLOSET.
AND THE ONLY TIME SHE EVER HEARS ANYTHING IS IN THE CLOSET.
AND THIS IS ALL IN THE SAME ROOM WHERE HER GRANDMOTHER DIED.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD DO? WE SHOULD TALK TO KRISTY'S HUSBAND AND GET SOME OF THE GRANDMA'S BELONGINGS TO USE AS TRIGGER OBJECTS DURING OUR INVESTIGATION TOMORROW.
YEAH.
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
ALL RIGHT.
GOT IT? I'M GONNA PUT THIS AWAY.
AWESOME.
HERE, YEAH.
THERE'S A BIBLE.
I MEAN, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF STUFF.
THIS IS A LAST RITES CROSS.
WHEN SOMEONE IS SICK, THEY, UM, USE IT AS A PRAYER ALTAR.
AND THEY PU THEY CANDLES HERE.
AND THERE'S HOLY WATER HERE USUALLY.
-OH, OKAY.
-AND IT'S BEEN USED.
MAYBE SHE'LL LET US KNOW, IF SHE'S HERE, WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO WITH THEM.
HAVE YOU EVER HAD ANY ACTIVITY IN THE HOUSE YOURSELF? I HAVE, UH, ACTUALLY IN THE ROOM HERE.
IT WAS ONE NIGHT, WE WERE SLEEPING.
FELT A TAPPING ON MY SHOULDER.
LIKE, SOMEBODY TRYING TO, UH, GET MY ATTENTION OR WAKE ME UP.
I IMMEDIATELY ROLLED OVER, TRIED TO SEE IF IT WAS KRISTY.
BUT SHE WAS SOUND ASLEEP.
THE WAY SHE WAS LAYING, THERE WAS NO WAY THAT SHE COULD HAVE TAPPED ME AND THEN GOT BACK OVER WITHOUT ME NOTICING.
MM-HMM.
WHAT DO YOU FEEL -- OR WHAT'S YOUR IDEAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN KRISTY SAYS -- COMES TO YOU AND SAYS, "HEY, I THINK THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE HOUSE"? I MEAN, I BELIEVE HER.
I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HER GRANDMA.
BUT THE WAY SHE DESCRIBED HER, I COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HER COMING AND TRYING TO MAKE HERSELF KNOWN.
DO YOU THINK IT IS THE GRANDMOTHER? I GUESS I REALLY COULDN'T SAY.
Berry: NIGHT ONE, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
BUT WE HAVE NOTHING COMPLETE.
BUT WE'RE HOPING INVESTIGATING WITH THESE TRIGGER OBJECTS CAN POINT US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND GIVE US SOME ANSWERS.
THE ONLY THING THEY NEVER GOT RID OF WAS THE CATHOLIC MEMORABILIA HERE.
LET'S PUT 'EM OUT.
I MEAN, THERE'S LOTS IN HERE.
AND THIS -- THIS IS COOL.
Bruni: WE'RE PLACING THE K-II METER NEXT TO THE GRANDMOTHER'S THINGS TO MONITOR FOR ELECTROMAGNETIC ANOMALIES.
IF ANYTHING IS HERE, THE DEVICE WILL LIGHT UP AND LET US KNOW.
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
READY? LET'S ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT.
IS THIS DOROTHY? DO THESE OBJECTS BELONG TO YOU? IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY TO KRISTY AND HER FAMILY? SHE'S SAD BECAUSE SHE FELT LIKE YOU REALLY DIDN'T LIKE HER.
HEY, LIGHT'S GOING OFF.
IT'S REALLY GOING OFF.
IT'S REALLY GOING OFF.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY TO KRISTY AND HER FAMILY? SHE'S SAD BECAUSE SHE FELT LIKE YOU REALLY DIDN'T LIKE HER.
HEY, LIGHT'S GOING OFF.
IT'S REALLY GOING OFF.
IT'S REALLY GOING OFF.
DO YOU ENJOY WATCHING HER IN THIS HOUSE NOW? DO YOU STILL LOVE EACH OTHER? IS THERE MORE YOU WANT TO SAY? SAY IT NOW.
IT STOPPED FLASHING NOW.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S RELIABLE ENOUGH RIGHT NOW TO SAY IT'S ANYTHING FOR SURE.
BUT I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT IT'S HAPPENING WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
FOR SURE.
FOR SURE.
LET'S GO INTO THE KIDS' BEDROOM AND SEE IF WE CAN GE A MORE CLEAR RESPONSE THERE.
THIS IS WHA WE'RE GONNA DO.
ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, YOU JUST NEED TO SAY I INTO THIS LITTLE SILVER BOX.
IT'S A RECORDER.
IT JUST HEARS YOUR VOICE.
AND WE CAN PLAY IT BACK.
SO I'M GONNA SET IT DOWN.
AND WE'RE JUST GONNA BE TOTALLY QUIET.
AND YOU JUST COME UP, AND YOU SAY WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU NEED TO SAY TO THIS FAMILY, OKAY? IF YOU KNOW THEM, GREAT.
IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S FINE TOO.
BUT WHATEVER I IS YOU WANNA SAY, THIS IS YOUR CHANCE, OKAY? SO WE'RE JUST GONNA SET THIS RIGHT HERE, AND YOU JUST WALK RIGHT UP TO I AND JUST SPEAK INTO I AS LOUDLY AS YOU CAN.
LET'S SEE IF WE GOT ANYTHING.
WHAT? I CAN'T TELL WHAT IT'S SAYING.
BUT IT'S JUST TALKING, TALKING, TALKING, TALKING, TALKING.
IS IT TALKING LIKE IT'S -- LIKE IT'S A FEMALE, RIGHT? HOW DO WE GO BACK TO KRISTY AND SAY, "WELL, THERE IS THIS THING IN YOUR SON'S ROOM THAT'S TALKING UP A STORM, BUT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT'S SAYING"? WHAT'S WEIRD IS IT'S LIKE -- IT'S TALKING -- LIKE, REALLY -- I CANNOT MAKE OU WHAT IT'S SAYING.
THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN A PSYCHIC.
YEAH.
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK WE SHOULD BRING IN CHIP.
Bruni: AS FAR AS PSYCHICS GO, CHIP IS ABOUT AS GOOD AS THEY GET.
WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER ON MANY OCCASIONS.
HE'S A VERY DEAR FRIEND OF MINE.
WE'RE USING HIM AS A TOOL, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TOOL IN OUR ARSENAL.
ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP US GET A CLEARER PICTURE.
I KNOW NOTHING, BUT I'VE ALREADY BEEN PICKING UP STUFF.
EVEN FROM OUTSIDE? OH, YEAH.
LITTLE BIT OF NAUSEA.
I GET A PUSH ON THE BED.
I FEEL, LIKE, PRESSURE ON THE BED, LIKE, ALMOST, LIKE, IF SOMEONE'S LYING IN BED, THEY'D JUST SIT UP AND ARE STARTLED.
-OKAY.
-YEAH, OKAY.
ATTACHED TO A FEMALE.
AND THAT'S ALL THEY WANNA GIVE ME AT THIS POINT IN TIME, ATTACHED TO A FEMALE.
THE WORD THA CAME INTO MY HEAD WHEN I WALKED INTO THIS ROOM WAS "STOP!" AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE "STOP" IS.
WHEN YOU CAME INTO THIS ROOM, IT SAID, "STOP"? I HEARD, "STOP!" I DON'T GET I COMPLETELY YET.
BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW YOU'VE GO TWO THINGS HERE.
-OKAY.
-MM-HMM.
THERE FEELS LIKE THERE'S A FEMALE.
THERE FEELS LIKE THERE'S A KID.
-OKAY.
-YOU KNOW THAT OLD SAYING OR THAT SONG OR WHATEVER, "ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER"? -MM-HMM.
-THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING HERE.
ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER.
LIKE, THE -- THE FEMALE, I FEEL SHE WAS SICK.
AND I GET MEDICAL THINGS A LOT.
MM-HMM.
PRESSURE IN MY HEAD, A LITTLE BIT OF NAUSEA, BUT SHORT OF BREATH AND [ GRUNTS .]
-OKAY.
-THAT SORT OF THING.
FEELS LIKE THERE'S ENERGY FLOWING IN HER DIRECTION FROM THIS.
AND SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW, THERE'S A STORY OF CHILD ABUSE.
OH.
OKAY.
OH.
THAT'S THE CONNECTION TO YOU.
Coffey: SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW, THERE'S A STORY OF CHILD ABUSE.
Bruni: OH, OKAY.
OH.
THAT'S THE CONNECTION TO YOU.
AND YOU DON'T THINK IT'S THE CHILD.
YOU DON'T KNOW ABOU A CHILD YET, CORRECT? NO.
MNH-MNH.
WOW, THAT JUST HIT ME IN THE HEART.
HMM.
YOU'RE THE MAGNET.
NOT THAT YOU DON'T LOVE CHILDREN AND EVERYTHING, BUT YOU'RE NOT A MOMMY, AND THIS IS A MOMMY.
THIS IS A PROTECTIVE MAMA-BEAR MOMMY.
AND THIS CHILD IS, LIKE MM.
OKAY.
YOU'RE HER SAFETY NET.
OKAY.
YOU'RE GONNA BE SURPRISED BY WHAT YOU GET THERE.
OR YOU CAN BE.
I HOPE YOU WILL BE.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? YOU THINK YOU'VE GO THIS ONE STORY OVER HERE.
BUT IT'S -- IT'S BIGGER.
AND THE BIGGER STORY THAT YOU FIND, IF YOU CAN DIG DEEP ENOUGH, AND I HOPE YOU CAN AND FIND IT, IS THE CHILD.
OKAY.
LET'S KEEP WALKING.
-YEAH.
-MM-HMM.
IT'S -- AMY, ADAM, IT'S GONNA TURN OUT DIFFERENTLY.
SHE JUST SAID TO ME WHEN I WALKED DOWN HERE, SHE GOES, "I HIDE DOWN HERE.
" IT'S LIKE A HIDE-AND-SEEK THING.
"I HIDE DOWN HERE.
" IF YOU DIG DEEP ENOUGH, OR YOU TRY HARD ENOUGH, WITH THE EVP AND THE CONTACT STUFF, THIS CHILD WILL COME THROUGH TO YOU.
I'LL BET YOU ANYTHING.
DO YOUR -- DO THE THINGS THAT YOU DO BEST.
ANYBODY THAT KNOWS YOUR WORK KNOWS THAT YOU GUYS CAN REACH OUT TO SOMETHING.
AND IT'S, 99 PERCENT OF THE TIME, WILLING TO COMMUNICATING WITH YOU.
BUT THE DEAL IS THIS CHILD IS JUST JONESING TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU.
AND YOU MAY NOT THINK THAT'S THE STORY.
BUT THAT'S A FACE OF THE STORY NONETHELESS -OKAY.
-OF WHAT'S IN THIS HOUSE.
YEAH.
I'M GONNA GO SIT FOR A MINUTE.
OKAY.
Bruni: WHAT ABOUT THE WOMAN? FEISTY AND, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE GRUMPY.
OKAY.
SHE'S EITHER CONNECTED TO THIS HOUSE OR TO THIS FAMILY, BUT SHE'S GOT -- SHE'S GOT A CONNECTION THAT LAYS WITHIN THESE WALLS -OR ON THIS PROPERTY.
-RIGHT.
THE KID, I DON'T KNOW.
OKAY.
SHE THREW HERSELF RIGHT INTO MY CONSCIOUSNESS AND SHE'S -- SHE'S JUST -- I MEAN, SHE'S BREAKING MY HEART.
-MM-HMM.
-ALL RIGHT.
SHE FEELS LIKE SHE'S FINALLY GOT SOMEBODY'S ATTENTION.
SHE'S GOT -- SHE'S GOT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A WHILE, SHE FEELS HAPPINESS AND HOPE.
DO WHAT YOU'VE GOTTA DO OVER HERE.
I MEAN, THERE'S THIS STUFF OVER HERE.
-AND THEN THERE'S -OKAY.
OVER HERE.
IS THERE A NAME STILL OUT THERE, OR NO? THERE IS.
THERE'S AN "M" NAME.
BUT IT'S ALMOS LIKE EMILY, AMELIA.
MM.
AND IF IT'S NOT STARTING WITH AN "M," IT'S GOT THAT -- YOU NOTICE HOW IT'S LIKE EMILY.
TEARS, LOOK.
THERE'S A BIGGER STORY.
AND IT'S GONNA SHED A WHOLE NEW LIGH ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS RESIDENCE.
OKAY, SO THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.
HE HIT ON A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE KNEW ABOUT.
YEAH.
WHICH WAS KIND OF CRAZY.
I MEAN, I EXPECT IT FROM HIM, BUT I DON'T EXPECT IT.
IT'S NOT GUARANTEED ALWAYS.
SO I'M GLAD HE WAS ABLE TO HIT ON THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY VERIFIED AND THINGS THAT WE KNOW.
WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFEREN THINGS HAPPENING.
WE HAVE THIS ENTITY THAT MATCHES THE DESCRIPTION OF HER GRANDMOTHER.
EXACTLY.
WHEN HE WENT INTO THE MAIN BEDROOM, HE DID SAY A FEMALE CONNECTION.
AND LAST NIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE DID GET ONE FEMALE EVP.
THAT'S TRUE.
NOW THE CHILD THING IS THROWING ME FOR A LOOP -BECAUSE -ME TOO.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO PROBABLY RESEARCH AND SEE IF SOMETHING HAPPENED NEARBY.
YEAH.
WE HAVE A LOT TO GO ON.
I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN CONFIRM SOME OF THE THINGS HE'S SAYING -AND FIND A NAME FOR THE GIRL.
-MM-HMM.
I'M GONNA START SOME MORE RESEARCH SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE COVER OUR BASES AND FIND OUT NAMES.
I'M GOING TO STAY HERE AND SEE WHAT I CAN FIND ONLINE.
Berry: WE HAVE SO MUCH RESEARCH TO DO.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO AND, LIKE, COLLECT THE DEEDS, FIND OUT WHO LIVED HERE IN THE HOUSE, WHO LIVED HERE BEFORE THEY LIVED HERE, WHO OWNED THE LAND.
I'M GONNA TRY TO GO BACK AS FAR AS I CAN.
I'M GONNA SCOUR EVERYTHING.
I'M GONNA LOOK A FAMILY HISTORY.
AND I'M GONNA TRY TO FIND US AN ANSWER.
Bruni: WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS RESEARCH.
AS SOON AS WE START HEARING THESE THINGS CHIP IS SAYING, WE INSTANTLY JUST WANNA OPEN UP OUR COMPUTERS AND START LOOKING AND -- AND TRYING TO CORRELATE THIS INFORMATION WITH ACTUAL PEOPLE AND EXPERIENCES.
OH, GOD.
I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH LUCK WITH THE DEEDS.
I WENT THROUGH THE ANCESTRY STUFF.
AND I CAN'T FIND ANY KIND OF WEIRD, LIKE, A DEATH OF A CHILD AT A YOUNG AGE FROM KRISTY, DOROTHY, OR ANYBODY ELSE.
I FOUND SOMETHING.
MM-HMM? LIKE, SOMETHING WITH A KID? YEAH.
UM, WELL I FOUND SOMETHING REALLY AWFUL, ACTUALLY.
WHAT? WHAT? IN THE '80s.
PROBABLY IT'S, LIKE, A FIVE-MINUTE DRIVE FROM HERE.
UM, THERE WAS A 3 1/2-YEAR-OLD GIRL.
HER STEPMOTHER PUT HER IN THE BATHTUB AND TURNED ON THE HOT WATER.
AND THE LITTLE GIRL SAID, "IT BURNS.
" AND SHE SAID, "STAY IN THERE.
" AND THE LITTLE GIRL ENDED UP GETTING, UM, FIRST- AND THIRD-DEGREE BURNS OVER HALF HER BODY.
AND, UM, BY THE TIME THEY TOOK HER TO THE HOSPITAL AND EVERYTHING, SHE DIED OF CARDIAC ARREST.
AND IT HAPPENED VERY NEAR HERE.
AND HER NAME WAS AMY.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME? "AMY.
" Bruni: IT HAPPENED VERY NEAR HERE.
AND HER NAME WAS AMY.
THE CHILD SUFFERED FIRST-DEGREE BURNS OVER 50 PERCEN OF HER BODY BELOW HER WAIS AND THIRD-DEGREE BURNS OVER 17 PERCEN OF THE SAME AREA.
SHE DIED OF CARDIAC ARRES AT 2:25 A.
M.
THE NEXT DAY.
REMEMBER CHIP WAS SAYING THE LITTLE GIRL'S NAME HAD AN MM IN IT? HE'S LIKE, "IT'S AN EMILY OR AN EMMA.
" -YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
-YOU KNOW? I MEAN, HE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE SAID AMY BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE THOUGH THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.
IT'S DISTURBING TO THINK ABOUT.
I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR IT.
IF SHE'S HERE, AND SHE WANTS TO TALK TO A LOVING MAMA, LIKE, I KNOW I AM THAT PERSON, AND I WILL.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW -- IT'S JUST SAD TO THINK ABOUT.
YEAH.
I MEAN, OF COURSE.
BUT LET'S -- LET'S LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE.
WE CAN HOPEFULLY GIVE THIS LITTLE GIRL SOME RESOLUTION.
YEAH.
Bruni: THERE ARE TWO ENTITIES WE ARE DEALING WITH -- KRISTY'S GRANDMOTHER AND THIS LITTLE GIRL, AMY, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO VERIFY TONIGHT.
I HATE WHEN I FIND STORIES ABOUT CHILDREN THAT WERE HURT OR DIED IN SOME TRAGIC WAY.
IT'S BECAUSE I'M A MOM.
YOU INSTANTLY THINK OF YOUR OWN CHILD.
IT MAKES ME SO SAD.
I GO HOME.
AND I STILL THINK ABOUT IT.
BUT THIS LITTLE GIRL IS REACHING OUT FOR A REASON.
MAYBE SHE NEEDS HELP MOVING ON.
MAYBE SHE'S LOOKING FOR THA MOTHER FIGURE TO LATCH ONTO.
SO IT'S VERY IMPORTAN THAT WE TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM BOTH, STARTING WITH KRISTY'S GRANDMOTHER DOROTHY.
SO FAR, IT'S BEEN REALLY INTERESTING.
WE CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENED.
Berry: YEAH.
WE'VE HAD A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE PUSHED US IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION.
-OKAY.
-BUT WE NEED TO DIG DEEPER.
WE BROUGHT IN A DEAR FRIEND OF OURS WHO IS A PSYCHIC, WHO WE TRUST.
HIS NAME IS CHIP COFFEY.
YOU HAVE SOME UNFINISHED BUSINESS WITH YOUR GRANDMOTHER.
AND CHIP DEALS WITH A LOT OF THESE CASES.
AND HE'S ALSO BEEN KNOWN TO CONNECT.
WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO MEET HIM TONIGHT.
-SHALL WE? -UM, YEAH.
-IS HE INSIDE? -HE'S INSIDE RIGHT NOW.
-COOL.
-SHALL WE GO IN AND MEET HIM? -OKAY.
-OKAY.
[ LAUGHS .]
KRISTY, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO MEET MY FRIEND CHIP COFFEY.
HI, KRISTY.
HOW ARE YOU, DARLIN'? -NICE TO MEET YOU.
-IT'S GOOD TO MEET YOU.
WE THOUGHT MAYBE YOU COULD CHAT WITH KRISTY AND GIVE US YOUR IMPRESSIONS OF HER AND HER SITUATION.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE MAYBE SHE CAN GET SOME RESOLUTION.
YOU'VE GOT SOME STUFF GOING ON IN YOUR HOUSE, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
ARE YOU, LIKE, WANTING ME TO TRY TO REACH OU COMMUNICATE WITH SOMEBODY WHO'S PASSED? -YEAH.
-YEAH.
SHE'S ATTACHED TO THIS HOUSE.
SO SHE LIVED PHYSICALLY IN THIS HOUSE OR RESIDED IN THIS HOUSE? Kristy: MM-HMM.
SHE'S A TOUGH COOKIE, BUT I LIKE HER.
AND I FEEL SHE WAS SICK.
I FEEL FLUID-Y IN MY CHES WHEN I CONNECT WITH HER.
YOU'RE HER FAVORITE.
AND YOU KINDA KNEW THAT.
AND SHE HOPED YOU KNEW IT, BUT SHE CAN BE TOUGH.
SHE LOVES YOU.
AND IF SHE SAID OR DID ANYTHING, SHE'S COMING BACK TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
THERE WAS MUTUAL HURT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE FEL HURT ABOUT NECESSARILY.
BUT YOU FELT HURT.
SHE FELT HURT.
-EVERYBODY GOT HURT.
-MM-HMM.
BUT SHE SAYS, "I'M SORRY.
" SHE'S GLAD YOU'RE HERE.
SHE'S JUST GONNA TELL YOU LIKE SHE WOULD TELL IT TO YOU 'CAUSE SHE WOULD TELL YOU UP FRONT.
SHE WOULD LAY I OUT ON THE LINE.
-YEAH.
-AND HERE'S THE DEAL.
SHE'S LIKE, "WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY TO YOU? I'M SORRY.
I LOVE YOU.
-YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT.
" -OKAY.
"I'M KEEPING AN EYE ON YOU EVERY NOW AND THEN.
WE'RE GOOD.
WE'RE REALLY GOOD.
" AND SHE WANTS YOU TO BE TOO.
MOSTLY WHAT I'M HOLDING ONTO IS JUST SADNESS THAT THERE WAS NO CLOSURE.
RIGHT.
THAT'S TOUGH.
BUT AS LONG AS I KNOW THA SHE'S NOT STILL ANGRY WITH ME, YOU KNOW, AND THAT SHE'S OKAY, SHE MIGHT EVEN BE HAPPY THAT I'M HERE WITH MY FAMILY, THEN THAT LIKE, FIRST SIX YEARS, ALMOST EVERY NIGHT, I, LIKE, THOUGHT ABOUT THIS.
BUT, I MEAN, YOU LIVED WITH THIS EVEN -BEFORE THE SIX YEARS -YEAH.
RIGHT.
BECAUSE YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH EVA WHEN SHE WAS STILL ALIVE FOR -- YES.
FOR FIVE YEARS BEFORE THAT.
SO IT'S BEEN 11 YEARS, AND SO IF THIS GETS YOU ANY CLOSER TO GETTING AWAY FROM THAT, LIKE, WE ARE SO HAPPY TO DO IT.
I FEEL A LOT BETTER.
I FEEL LIKE A WEIGHT'S BEEN LIFTED.
Berry: I THINK KRISTY GO A LOT OF RELIEF FROM WHAT CHIP HAD TO SAY.
SO I'M SO GLAD CHIP WAS ABLE TO RELAY THOSE MESSAGES.
BUT WE'RE NOT DONE HERE YET.
I WILL TELL YOU THIS.
THIS, LIKE MANY CASES WE DO, HAS TURNED INTO, UM, A LOT MORE LAYERS THAN WE EXPECTED.
WELL, WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO.
I KNOW.
WE ARE NOT DONE.
WE HAVE MORE INVESTIGATING TO DO.
WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO INVESTIGATE WITH US FOR A LITTLE BIT.
I'M ON BOARD.
AND THEN YOU CAN GET BACK TO YOUR FAMILY -AND RELAX -OKAY.
-AND SLEEP TONIGHT.
-YEAH.
Bruni: WE HAVE SO MANY MORE PIECES TO UNCOVER.
I WANNA REALLY FOCUS ON WHAT CHIP HAS LED US TO, INVESTIGATE THIS LITTLE-GIRL ENTITY THAT HE'S DETECTING.
SO I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY GO IN THE BASEMEN 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE HE REGISTERED HER THE STRONGES AND JUST REALLY TRY TO SPEAK WITH HER.
Bruni: HIS NAME IS BooBuddy.
SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT HE DOES, HE, UM, IS AN EMF DETECTOR, A TEMPERATURE SENSOR.
AND HE'S A VIBRATION SENSOR.
IF THE TEMPERATURE CHANGES, IT'LL SAY, "OH, IT'S GETTING WARM IN HERE.
" IF IT GETS TOUCHED AND FEELS ANY SORT OF MOVEMENT, IT'LL SAY, "OH, THAT TICKLES.
" AND IT ALSO ASKS EVP QUESTIONS.
ARE YOU GONNA STAR RECORDING IT? MM-HMM.
YOU CAME THROUGH HERE TODAY AND TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU SENSED A CHILDLIKE PRESENCE.
-AMELIA, EMILY -YEAH.
AND YOU SAID IT HAS AN "M.
" WE WERE DOING THE SPIRIT BOX.
AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, "WHAT'S YOUR NAME?" AND THEN -- AND SHE GOT "AMY.
" I WAS ABLE TO DIG UP A STORY THAT HAPPENED.
IT WAS MAYBE A MILE AWAY.
IN THE EARLY '80s, THIS LITTLE GIRL, UM, HER NAME WAS AMY.
SHE WAS 3 1/2.
AND HER STEPMOTHER PUT HER IN THE BATH.
AND AMY SAID, "THE WATER'S TOO HOT.
" AND SHE SAID, "YOU STAY IN THAT WATER.
" [ GASPS .]
THE WATER WAS 138 DEGREES.
AND SHE SUFFERED BURNS TO OVER HALF HER BODY AND WAS TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL AND WENT INTO CARDIAC ARREST AND DIED.
AND I JUST KEEP THINKING OVER AND OVER AGAIN OF THAT POOR LITTLE GIRL GETTING IN THE TUB AND SAYING, "IT'S TOO HOT" AND THEN BEING TOLD TO STAY THERE, -"YOU DO NOT GET OUT.
" -DID YOU MAKE IT WARM IN HERE? [ BOTH GASP .]
AND I JUST KEEP THINKING OVER AND OVER AGAIN OF THAT POOR LITTLE GIRL GETTING IN THE TUB AND SAYING, "IT'S TOO HOT" AND THEN BEING TOLD TO STAY THERE, -"YOU DO NOT GET OUT.
" -DID YOU MAKE IT WARM IN HERE? [ BOTH GASP .]
DID YOU HEAR WHAT HE SAID? WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOT WATER.
AND THE BEAR SAYS, "DID YOU MAKE IT WARM IN HERE?" MM-HMM.
IT'S TOO MUCH.
YOU KNOW, AS A PAREN AND HOW, LIKE, MY CHILD IS EVERYTHING TO ME, LIKE, HOW COULD ANYONE EVER DO THAT? -YOU KNOW? -IT MAKES ME SICK.
I KNOW.
IT'S A LOT.
WELL, I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS TO TALK TO HER.
I'M GONNA STAR THIS RECORDER.
IF THERE'S A LITTLE GIRL HERE, IF YOUR NAME IS AMY, CAN YOU COME CLOSE TO THE STUFF WE PUT OUT? JUST GRAB ONTO I IF YOU CAN.
DON'T BE SHY.
THERE'S A LOT OF LOVE IN THIS ROOM.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AFRAID TO BE HERE WITH US.
AMY, ARE YOU OKAY? IF YOU'RE OKAY, CAN YOU LIGHT UP THOSE LIGHTS FOR US? SHE'S HERE.
THAT, YOU CAN MAKE LIGHT UP, JUST LIKE THAT.
DID YOU KNOW THAT HER NAME IS AMY TOO? YES.
I'M AMY.
ISN'T THAT COOL? DO YOU LIKE BEING HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER KIDS TO PLAY WITH? AMY, YOU DON' HAVE TO STAY.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN THIS PLACE THAT YOU ARE.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK YOU'VE BEEN ANY BOTHER TO ANYBODY.
IF YOU WANNA STAY AND PLAY, YOU DO THAT, TOO.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF ANYMORE.
NO ONE'S EVER GONNA HURT YOU EVER AGAIN.
EVER.
BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO STAY IN THIS PLACE.
OKAY? AMY, ARE YOU HERE WITH US? I THINK IT'S JUST QUIET NOW.
[ SIGHS .]
ALL RIGHT.
WELL I'M GLAD TO BE HERE FOR THIS CHILD.
THIS GIRL WAS IN PAIN, WAS ABUSED.
I JUST WANTED HER TO KNOW THAT SHE WAS NOT FORGOTTEN.
I THINK THE PRIMARY REASON FOR COMING HERE WAS KRISTY AND HER FAMILY.
BUT I THINK THE OFFSHOO OF THAT IS AMY.
THAT'S A BLESSING THAT SHE'S GONNA GET.
I MEAN, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT KRISTY WANTED, WHICH IS THE CLOSURE AND THE MOVING ON AFTER THE 11 YEARS.
I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT DOROTHY WAS HERE.
YEAH.
YEAH.
SHE WAS TRYING TO GE OUR ATTENTION NIGHT ONE.
MM-HMM.
[ THUD .]
-[ GASPS .]
-[BLEEP.]
WHAT WAS THAT? I MEAN, WE HEARD THE SOUND IN THE CLOSET IN HER OLD BEDROOM.
AND WE GOT THAT CRAZY GROWL BACK THERE.
Amy: WHAT IS IN THE CLOSET? [ GARBLED VOICE .]
Bruni: AND CHIP WAS ABLE TO CHANNEL HER AND TALK TO KRISTY.
"WE'RE GOOD.
WE'RE REALLY GOOD.
" IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHATEVER WAS GOING ON WITH KRISTY AND HER GRANDMOTHER, IT FEELS LIGHTER ALREADY.
I FEEL LIKE HER MOMENT WITH CHIP WAS REALLY WHAT SHE NEEDED.
-RIGHT.
MM-HMM.
-YOU KNOW? AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S ALSO THE LITTLE GIRL.
BUT THE ACTIVITY IN THE SON'S ROOM WAS VERY CHILDLIKE.
"STOP!" AND CHIP FELT HER PRESENCE AS SOON AS HE GOT HERE.
SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW, THERE'S A STORY OF CHILD ABUSE.
AND LAST NIGHT, AFTER WE TOLD HER SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE SCARED AND STAY HERE ANYMORE, THE ACTIVITY STOPPED.
I DO NOT THINK IT'S HERE ANYMORE.
NO.
I DON'T EITHER.
I THINK WE SHOULD OBVIOUSLY TELL THEM ABOUT HER AND MAKE THEM AWARE, JUST IN CASE -- I MEAN, MAYBE SHE'LL POP BACK IN OR SOMETHING.
-RIGHT.
-UM, AND SO THA THEY JUST KNOW WHAT IT IS, IF IT HAPPENS, IF THEY GET ANY KIND OF CHILDLIKE ACTIVITY.
ALL RIGHT.
WELL, ARE YOU READY TO TALK TO THEM? YEAH.
WE CAN TELL YOU RIGHT OFF THE BA THAT WE DEFINITELY EXPERIENCED ACTIVITY HERE.
AND IT WAS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU EXPERIENCED.
OH, OKAY.
CHIP DID HIS WALK-THROUGH, AND HE WENT INTO YOUR ROOM.
HE IMMEDIATELY PICKED UP ON A FEMALE FIGURE IN THAT ROOM.
HE SAID, "THERE'S A FEMALE IN HERE, A VERY STRONG FEMALE IN THIS ROOM.
" AND THEN THE NEXT NIGH WITH YOU, HE WAS ABLE TO CONNECT WITH HER.
CHIP COMING AND DOING THAT RECONCILIATION FOR YOU AND KIND OF HELPING YOU THROUGH THAT ISSUE, IT'S REALLY GREA THAT WE WERE -- WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF CONNECT THOSE -- THAT BRIDGE.
THAT REALLY HELPED ME.
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH THAT, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS HE HAD TO SAY.
AND IT WAS WHAT I NEEDED.
IT WAS WHA I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR.
AND WE DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOU WITH THE SHADOW FIGURES OR THE NOISES IN THE CLOSET.
THAT WAS JUST HER TRYING TO TELL YOU A MESSAGE AND TO GET SOMETHING TO YOU.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THIS OTHER SPIRI AND THIS OTHER ENTITY THA DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU, THE FAMILY, THE PROPERTY.
CHIP PICKED UP ON THIS, UH, THIS ENTITY OF A CHILD.
HE SAID THAT IT WAS, LIKE, AN ABUSE SITUATION AND THAT SHE WAS REALLY JUST REALLY LONGING TO BE ACCEPTED SOMEWHERE.
LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES FROM HERE, THERE WAS A LITTLE GIRL.
UM, SHE WAS 3 1/2.
AND HER NAME WAS AMY.
BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED WAS HER STEPMOTHER, UH, PUT HER IN THE BATHTUB.
IT WAS 138 DEGREES.
AND SHE SAID, "STAY IN THERE.
" IT SCALDED OVER 50 PERCENT OF HER BODY.
SHE HAD FIRST- AND THIRD-DEGREE BURNS.
AND THEN THEY TOOK HER TO THE HOSPITAL.
AND SHE DIED OF CARDIAC ARREST THAT NIGHT.
THAT'S HEARTBREAKING.
SHE MAYBE INITIALLY WAS JUST KIND OF ATTRACTED BY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PARK RIGHT HERE, THERE'S KIDS, YOU HAVE KIDS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A LOVING MOM.
AND THEN WHEN SHE SAW US GET HERE AND KNEW WE COULD TALK TO THEM, THAT REALLY KIND OF EXCITED HER.
WE FEEL SHE WAS INTERACTING.
AND I BASICALLY JUST HAD A TALK WITH HER AND JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, "YOU CAN GO WHEREVER YOU NEED TO GO, AND YOU ARE LOVED.
" AND WE DON'T THINK SHE'S PROBABLY HERE ANYMORE.
LIKE, COMFORTING TO KNOW THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, NOT AGGRESSIVE OR EVER TRYING TO HURT ANYBODY.
YEAH.
NOW, IN TERMS OF YOUR GRANDMOTHER, HAVE THIS BE ABOUT FORGIVENESS.
IN THAT BOX THAT YOU HAVE LEF WITH THE RELIGIOUS ARTIFACTS, THERE'S A CROSS IN THERE.
IT WOULD BE A NICE GESTURE IF YOU HUNG THA SOMEWHERE IN YOUR HOUSE.
YEAH.
YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
Bruni: KRISTY IS FINALLY ABLE TO HAVE THE CLOSURE SHE'S BEEN LOOKING FOR.
THE GRANDMOTHER IS WATCHING OVER THEM AND IS HAPPY THEY ARE HERE.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A LOT OF ANSWERS AND RELIEF.
AND IT FEELS AMAZING THA WHILE WE WERE HELPING KRISTY, WE WERE ABLE TO HELP A LITTLE GIRL THAT FELT LIKE SHE HAD NO PLACE TO GO.