The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway (2017) s01e03 Episode Script
The Sting: Day 2
1 My name is Dave Holloway.
My daughter is Natalee Holloway.
She went missing in Aruba in May 2005.
I never dreamed that 12 years and we still have nothing up until now.
[DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
One day, van der Sloot says, "I'm gonna give you $1,500 to move the body.
" I'm wiring the room that y'all are gonna be staying in.
It will be used for law enforcement.
This guy knows something, and I'm gonna find out what.
The surveillance, it's never scripted, so you have to be prepared for anything.
It did, and that's concerning.
We need to get John's confession on tape, so we can use that against him in a criminal case that may lead to the conviction of Joran van der Sloot.
You know what our goal is, correct? [SWEEPING STRING MUSIC.]
[DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
There's been some changes, or I should say some added information that you need to know about.
With day one with the sting operation behind us, it's time to tell Dave where we are.
Last night, John changed his story.
Originally, he told Gabriel that he recovered Natalee's remains from the national forest, and now he claims it's at a different location, near his aunt's rental property, He's already admitted that he was involved in moving Natalee's remains, okay, and I'm gonna let you see right from the horse's mouth.
Okay.
John, I think, is trying to throw Gabriel off because he's changed the story.
John's girlfriend, she doesn't trust Gabe, and I think she's trying to convince John not to trust Gabriel as well.
Paulus van der Sloot was smart enough not to bury somebody in a residential area, and, you know, what are the odds that they'd pick a spot John happens to be so familiar with? But I know he knows where she is.
He knows the details of that night that only Joran van der Sloot could've told him.
Now, in this section of the tape, John is sharing his admiration for Joran.
He's enamored with Joran van der Sloot.
He idolizes the guy, and I don't know why, and it seems to me that anything that Joran would want him to do, then would be willing to do it.
You know, I'm thinking, "Why would anyone in their crazy mind want to be friends with him?" And I found out that they actually became what I understand to be lovers.
Everyone says, "Oh, he's obsessed with Joran.
" Yeah, I was a little obsessed with him.
We used to hook up with girls all the time and go out partying and gambling and stuff, and then one night, we were having a threesome.
- Where? - At my house.
- At your house? - Yeah.
So you guys would bring the girls to your house? Yeah, but the problem was, the girl finished before us and passed the fuck out 'cause we were all drunk as shit.
- Okay.
- So then he's like, um uh, "Don't worry.
Just turn off the lights.
" "This is how we do it in Europe.
" I'm like, "This ain't no 'Brokeback Mountain' shit going down.
" He's like, "Just shut up.
It'll all be over soon.
" After that, there wasn't no hesitation.
We were all team players after that to get each other off.
What do you mean, team player? Well, whatever it took to get each other off.
You turn off the lights, and you go at it.
It's European style.
He'll do anything for his best friend.
It sucks that Stephany put him behind bars, 'cause our partying days are over.
That dumb bitch, I fucking hope she rolls in her fucking grave for putting him there 'cause it's her fault he's there.
It's not his fault for killing her.
It's her fault for egging him on.
I've watched a lot of the tapes that Gabriel has made, and it's quite evident that John's trying to be the same monster that Joran van der Sloot is.
[CELL PHONE RINGING.]
He's too busy texting.
He was distracted the whole time he was asking those questions.
When Kathy was watching John and Gabriel last night, it seemed to be a lot of conflicts with John's girlfriend.
John's girlfriend doesn't trust Gabriel.
We need to make sure she's not tipping off John that Gabriel's trying to set him up.
My concern is, the girlfriend's gonna try to circumvent this whole thing, is what my concern is.
I want the girlfriend to go to Aruba.
- Yeah.
- If we can convince girlfriend to come to Aruba, then we can keep an eye on her, and there's a possibility she'd be brought in for questioning, along with John and Gabriel, and that way, we'll have one more witness to corroborate the story.
I think what's gonna happen is, is Lauren and John will start making up a different story.
They'll lead Gabriel here, to the Aunt's house.
I'm telling you, it's off in the national forest.
We can check the Aunt's house first.
- Yeah.
- And if it's not there, we'll know it's in the national forest.
I know Dave's concerned, but if we can get the location identified and gather the DNA and evidence, then we'll get John and Joran van der Sloot to serve the time that they deserve for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
What was our goal to come here to get him to do? Give those statements.
Lock John in as party to the crime, okay, so we can take it to the Aruba authorities, and they will get interested, okay.
That's our whole goal.
We can get him locked in to certain things that he's directly involved in.
Then we can use it against him.
We'll see again tonight.
[CLEARS THROAT.]
We still need to know how much Joran paid John to remove Natalee's remains.
We need to know the exact location where he dug up the body, we need to know where he took the body to have it cremated, and we need it all on tape.
[PHONE LINE TRILLING.]
- Hello.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- Tell me what's going on.
What's the chances of getting a couple other things answered? Right now, it's real important, because we need to ask him what his involvement is as far as a crime is concerned, and I need to know where.
That's a big fricking change from "it was in the forest.
" Now it's at the end of the street in a cul-de-sac on a dirt road.
I feel a lot of pressure.
I just want to get this done.
I want the time to come down where we go to Aruba, and this all just falls into place.
Here's something else that's real important.
Uh-huh.
Find out where the crematory was located.
I know.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
[DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
- Is it too cold? - No, it's nice out.
Real nice.
It's perfect.
Today is the last day.
We're at it full force, and we're just constantly on guard, waiting for the information to come out.
- You want to go to that market? - Yeah, let's go eat.
We need to get the confession to put someone in jail.
Now it's just a waiting game.
[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC.]
This is the 9th Ward area where Hurricane Katrina occurred.
It affected our investigation in a number of ways.
The news media was basically pushing the Aruban authorities to come up with an answer and come up with, you know, an arrest.
Hurricane Katrina occurred on August the 29th, 2005.
We're expecting upwards of 20,000 to 30,000 people inside the Superdome here for Katrina.
All the news media had vacated the island.
It was a very quiet time, and Joran van der Sloot was released within days after this happened.
I think it was a prime opportunity to allow this release to occur without cameras being involved.
I think they took the opportunity to basically shut the case down.
When the news media left, everything stopped.
[DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
After 12 weeks in custody, Joran van der Sloot is getting what he wants.
A judge has ruled there is no longer any reason to hold the 18-year-old.
We began focusing on Hurricane Katrina for a long time and rightly so.
You know, not in my benefit, but for their benefit.
You know, I it, um It was a sad situation down here.
We had a lot of damage back home in Meridian, Mississippi.
I had to attend to that for several months and just let the investigation go at that point in time.
I'm in the insurance business, and I had several hundred people that were my clients that needed help, and, you know, I just had to put a lot of things on the back burner at that time.
You just have to.
A lot of people lost their homes, and I did everything I could do to help my clientele and any others that needed help.
You just have to do what you have to do, and I did, and it took several months later when things kind of settled down to get the ball rolling again.
I think I arrived back in Aruba sometime in October.
I'll never forget.
October the 21st was Natalee's birthday, and I was down in a well, and I got so frustrated that I crawled out, and I swore I'd never come back to this island again, you know, just thinking about that you're looking for Natalee in a hole in Aruba on her birthday.
And I thought I'd never be back, but I did and, uh and still looking 12 years later.
You know, this new lead may be exactly what we need to regain the media's attention to get Aruba to move forward in the investigation and maybe finally solve it.
[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC.]
We are running out of time, so everything is high gear.
We knew it wouldn't be easy.
We're ready for it.
We're as prepared as we can be.
Gabriel knows what to do, and he's gonna do it.
You had the bury the fucking body, like, deep enough, you know.
I know, but I like hearing it because it's like you were part of that.
I would have liked to seen it and witness what you did, you know.
[WHISPERING.]
I'm ecstatic.
We got it all.
Where she was buried, what happened after he dug up the bones, why he dug up the bones.
The fact that the perpetrator is mentioning pertinent information that we've never heard before, to me, just substantiates everything else that he has previously said.
I mean, he's got information that's not out there.
[SOFT DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
- Good morning.
- Hey, T.
J.
How are you? - Long night.
- Yeah, I can imagine.
Last night, we got the confession that will be the basis for the Aruban authorities to reopen the investigation, and that will help us to find the burial site.
A lot of this information's graphic and difficult to hear, but I need to share it with Dave, so he's fully up to speed, so we can decide our next steps.
Let's let you watch some of the footage.
Okay.
Did he ever tell you what actually like, what actually happened that night? Like, you know, to see Natalee die in there? [SIGHS.]
- Mm-hmm.
- [BREATHES DEEPLY.]
You don't think that it was wrong of him? Who in the hell like, who helped him? You know, I've always had a suspicion that Paulus van der Sloot played a role in this.
Paulus van der Sloot made a statement, "No body, no case," which means that if they can't find a body, then no one can be arrested for the murder of Natalee.
How much involvement does he have in this case to make that type of statement, "No body, no case"? So it made me think that he's very, very confident that Natalee would not ever be recovered.
We did all this sonar 7 miles off the coast of Aruba, searched the island completely, and they weren't the least bit concerned.
About two months into the search operation, I was to the point of frustration.
We happened to come up on this gravel road, and lo and behold, there's the prison where Joran was being held, and I was so frustrated.
I said, "You know, I've never met Joran", and he's done something to my daughter.
" I said, "We're into it far enough along that I know" he had something to do with her disappearance.
" And I said, "You know, I'm sick of this.
" I'm fixing to have a nose-to-nose talk "with Joran van der Sloot," and here came Paulus, and he agreed to shake my hand, and I kind of squeezed on his hand, and he kind of squeezed back.
And he said, "No.
" I don't want you to see Joran.
" And I said, "Okay, big boy.
" I'm not letting go of your hand until I get some answers.
" Paulus got very nervous because I continued to hang on to his hand, and we continued the conversation in a stern way that this is not going right, and I've got to have some answers, and your son is involved in it, and he basically, in parting words I felt like he almost was going to break.
His lip started quivering, and he finally said, "I know you care about your daughter, "but I care about my son, and I'll do everything I can to protect him.
" And I probably could've punched him out right there.
[TENSE MUSIC.]
How did you come about to say, "Hey, man, you know", I'm gonna get caught"? And you went in and you fucking dug the body up? Did it smell? Then what did van der Sloot say? You got it cremated, and then you brung it back? How in the hell did you get away with, uh cremating the body, dude? - Mm-hmm.
- Can I push can I What did you do with the body? Like, not the body, the ashes.
You just threw them anywhere? How much was it? Like, how much dust? That's a lot, maybe because it was combined with the dog.
[EXHALES SHARPLY.]
[CLEARS THROAT.]
John clearly knows what he did is a crime, as to his involvement in discarding Natalee's remains.
We're one step closer to see him facing charges.
What was his reaction to, like, "Oh, my God, John", you did this.
You did this"? You don't think that her mom and her dad went through hell? That's so sick.
He's just like Joran van der Sloot.
He could care less if, uh about anyone but himself.
You didn't have no, like, remorse towards any of this? [SOMBER MUSIC.]
Let me get a drink.
[CLEARS THROAT.]
[EXHALES SLOWLY.]
You know, while watching that video, you know, I can only take so much.
The memories I have of Natalee.
Show us how you danced today, Natalee.
Very energetic, very loving, very kind.
She would do anything for you.
You know, just a real good kid, and to hear this guy desecrate her remains to the point where we could never have a funeral, I just couldn't watch it.
[SOFT PIANO MUSIC.]
He's emotionally drained over this, and that's his this has been his whole goal - Yeah.
- To find out the truth, and we're finding out the truth.
Yeah.
Right.
Dave and I have built a relationship, and this has gone beyond professional.
It's personal.
Natalee's personal to me, and I want something to come out of this.
I feel a lot of Dave's emotions.
He's a father who's got to the bottom of what happened to his daughter.
He is very angry.
He told me yesterday, "Don't let me get around John Ludwig.
" "If I find this is what he's done to my daughter," "don't let me get around that guy," and "'Cause I'm angry.
I'm mad.
" And I said, "I know you are.
" [DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
John Ludwig, I know he's involved.
It's just a matter of being able to prove what he did and what his involvement was with Natalee Holloway.
[DOOR OPENS.]
You okay? Yeah, I'm good, man.
I'm satisfied with what we've accomplished here in New Orleans.
John said where the body was buried and his instructions by Joran van der Sloot where he was paid to go out and remove the remains and take them to a crematory and then took possession of the ashes and then turned them over to Joran van der Sloot.
I mean, at least we definitely know he's involved.
- Right.
- It's just a matter of We know he's involved.
He's already established that.
But we need physical evidence of what he's involved with.
- Yeah, so we can prove it.
- Yep.
In Aruba, you can confess all you want, and you've got to have facts the police have to have some sort of evidence to back it up that what you say is true, which in the United States is totally different.
If I confess to a crime, then I'm going to jail the rest of my life.
Joran van der Sloot has given a number of stories and confessions over the entire course of this investigation.
I think Joran van der Sloot liked the attention of the media.
Van der Sloot went on the record with us in 2006.
Well, now his story changes again.
Joran van der Sloot is talking again.
He has confessed again.
He liked toying with the police and media.
He felt like the police did a poor job, and I think he grew a big ego out of it.
[SPEAKING NATIVE LANGUAGE.]
Some people would pay him for these stories.
If you offer Joran $10,000 tomorrow and ask him to tell you a fifth story, he'll do it.
No one expects anyone to believe anything this kid has to say anymore.
Quite frankly, he's on the verge of sociopath and despicable.
I would say that there was at least 10 to 15 different versions of what happened.
This time it's gonna be different because we're finally gonna find some evidence that's gonna have him locked up for good.
I want to sit down with Eric.
He's been in the FBI for a number of years, and I want to get his ideas and thoughts.
You know, I'm not gonna be able to look at it from a analytic point of view because I'm gonna be focused on what they're saying about my daughter.
Tell me what you thought about the recording.
- Uh - A lot of key things came out.
If what he says is true, he dug her remains up and then had them incinerated.
- He needs the book thrown at him.
- Yeah, yeah.
And I what we do over the next few weeks is very, very critical that we get something - and get it to the Arubans - Exactly.
Before he can get off the hook.
I don't know if it's still the same Chief of Police that's there or who I No, they change those out regularly.
Everything's changed, the Prosecutor, the Prime Minister, Chief of Police.
Most of the investigators have been shuffled out.
I think that bringing Natalee's case back to light is going to enhance their desire to bring it to some resolution because you had a lot of Government Officials whose actions were not above board.
With bringing forward the new evidence, I think the new government will look at it and say, "Hey, you know, these guys screwed it up the first time.
- "Let's do it right this time.
" - Yeah, yeah, I think so too.
So taking a hard look, giving it a fresh approach, and giving you a fair shake, and I take my hat off to you for, uh your patience, your demeanor because having been down this road so many times, and here's this, you know, little worm saying what he did, - and, you know, uh - Yeah.
Your restraint is is awesome.
You know, your restraint and, you know, li hoping everything works out is awesome, because, um um, a little a little turd like that - deserves what he gets.
- Oh, yeah, yeah.
We've been through so many tips and leads and missteps, and I'm thinking what else could there be? I mean, I've been through ocean searches, land searches, draining ponds, searching the sand dunes for months and months and months.
And, uh, so, uh You've been going down this road for a long time, and, you know, it's time for you to get some closure.
It's time for you to know, you know, what happened.
- Mm-hmm.
- You wanna know what happened.
I mean, if she drowned, if she was killed, if she was Whatever happened, you want to know.
If her remains are there, you know, Dave would wanna bring her back and give her a decent burial.
He's a father who, you know, has gone through a lot, and I know he probably thinks of his daughter every single day, several times a day, and he just wants to know what happened.
You've been on this journey a long time.
You've hit dead end after dead end, and hopefully this will get you to your finish line.
I'm hoping.
I'm hoping.
So we've got 2 1/2 days of, uh, filming.
We've gotten a lot of footage of our informant and our perpetrator.
There in Aruba, if we put a good report together for them, to incorporate also the videos and all the undercovers that we've done and the information we've compiled and the recordings that we have directly with Gabriel, they could take Gabriel, the girlfriend, and John into custody and then let them commence an investigation or pick it back up or open the case back up.
Will the statements that John made to Gabriel be admissible? In terms of using it as an investigative tool to get him to talk, yeah, that's one thing.
But can you use them in terms of a prosecution? That is the million-dollar question.
I can tell you right now the recordings are not gonna be admissible because they were not obtained by a police official from Aruba.
If you're a witness in Aruba, they can take you into custody, okay, and they can hold you up to 14 days.
If we name three people, the perpetrator, Gabriel, the girlfriend's all on the island.
They're not going anywhere.
They're not gonna let them off the island.
Those three people are gonna get taken into custody, and putting them in a prison for even a short duration, I think they'll get what they need to corroborate the evidence that we've already compiled.
If we can find the burial site, there still should be DNA in the soil for us to gather as evidence.
If we find the crime scene, it's all over.
Here's something we might need to be careful about, because I know you want the girlfriend to go to Aruba, but I'm not sure we can trust her.
You know, right now, John's girlfriend, she's already suspicious on Gabriel, and I don't want her telling John not to give Gabriel the details that we need.
Let me ask you this.
Do you think we're going to run this investigation based on something that we think is gonna happen? Oh, I know.
I'm just trying to be careful.
I'm just looking for no mistakes and no surprises.
[SOFT DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
Our next step is, as soon as we get back to Atlanta, we'll try to determine whether the information that we gathered here in New Orleans is true or not.
Then we'll plan a trip to Aruba where John will show Gabriel where exactly he dug up the body.
We're gonna give Gabriel a GPS, so he can drop it at the exact spot where John moved the remains.
Then we can move in with a cadaver dog to find the exact location to find the DNA.
[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC.]
[PHONE LINE TRILLING.]
Since we got back from New Orleans, we've been trying to get Gabriel on the phone to plan our trip to Aruba.
Gabriel, we're trying to get in touch with you.
Can you give me a call back? Thanks.
This is a little disturbing.
The whole thing right now is hanging on Gabriel to be able to go to Aruba.
That's what's holding us up right now.
Gabriel is not being reliable as he used to be.
He's having a lot of difficulty handling John.
John's a handful.
We all know that, and I think Gabriel's a little overwhelmed.
This is a lot of pressure, and I think it's too much for him.
So you said Gabriel and John have been in an argument the last couple days? Yeah, they're not getting along.
He's being a little difficult.
Gabriel will complain all the time.
"You just don't know how hard it is to take care of this guy.
"He goes off, and he's outside committing crimes, he's and I'm having to bail him out.
" It's draining Gabriel.
Gabriel can't work.
He doesn't want to work 'cause he can't leave this guy by himself in his home.
He's stolen a lot of money, so he's not only dealing with something that's home with him every day.
He's having to deal with keeping him out of trouble, and I'm trying to get him mind set that it's almost over.
The end is near.
Is this basically his idea of pouting, not answering your call? I don't know.
He's just talking about, he says he has his own expenses that have to be paid, and he can't leave John in the house by himself.
Is this something new or just when he gets pissed off? No, when he gets frustrated, that's what he brings up.
I mean, Gabriel wants to get rid of him.
I mean, he wants him gone.
Right.
And he said the sooner the better.
So that's why we talked yesterday about what we need to do and get prepared to get them to Aruba.
We're so close, but we need that one last piece.
We need to know where the burial site is.
Now is not the time for Gabriel to be flaky with us.
He needs to focus and get back on track.
He needs to stop complaining and just get it done.
If John and Gabe don't come to Aruba, we're fucked.
[DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
The Natalee Holloway case began in May of 2005.
I got captured by it, and I picked up the phone and made contact with the Holloway family, and I told them, I said, "You probably have a lot of investigators "that's made inquiries to you about the case in Aruba, "but I have something a little bit different.
"I have a system called layered voice analysis, "and I have analyzed these guys that have been involved "with the disappearance of your daughter, and they're not telling the truth.
" There was more false statements in that transmission than I've ever seen in any other interview I've ever done.
He and his team of detectives are among the few now using layered voice analysis, or LVA.
It works off of involuntary changes of voice and how a person feels.
I don't need to have a person in front of me in order to capture audio that I need to get results from the voice analysis.
I can take it over the TV.
I can do it from a recording, over the phone.
We know that the voice analysis nor the polygraph can be used in Aruba, but we know that it's an investigative focus tool which leads us to other things that we can look into.
John has changed his story.
We're going to do an analysis on John and Gabriel's conversation and try to confirm some of the information that was communicated in the last couple of days to be true or not true.
We're going to run the audio of the perpetrator through the layered voice analysis and see how it comes back as far as how truthful he's being after changing his story.
Okay, are you keyed up on the segment we want to try? - Yeah, we're ready to go.
- Okay.
It's, like, it wasn't in a national park.
"It wasn't in a national park.
" So these two snippets together, we have highly stressed and truth.
He's smart enough to know he's describing himself committing a crime.
When you're looking at these, you can't look at any individual snippet by itself.
You're looking at what's around it.
You're looking at the numbers.
You're looking at what's being said here, and I think he's telling the truth here, almost entirely, uh, that it's not in the national forest, and that he's, uh it's going to be somewhere close to his aunt's house.
My instincts all along, just from watching the interview and listening to what the perpetrator had to say, it was my belief that he was being truthful that this new location was the actual location, and now that we're able to confirm with the voice analysis some of the information that we were in question with.
I feel good about it.
Moving on to the next relevant section.
He's talking about at the crematory and that how van der Sloot knew that he could get the cremation done without anybody looking in the box.
He knew he could get it done.
He had paid him under the table money.
Van der Sloot knew the family.
And again, this shows up as inaccuracy again.
Under the table money it's 'cause there was We see a high tension, bad feelings, medium risk, inaccuracies.
There's definitely something more here to explore that he's holding back about the crematory.
Still a little apprehensive.
I, uh I haven't swallowed the Kool-Aid yet.
This was the first time seeing it.
And that inaccuracy, does it show that he may not have gone to a crematorium? Or is there That's a great question.
There's definitely deception here.
There's definitely I would call this a medium level of deception, but if he had not gone to the crematory at all, it would be a much higher result than this.
There are elements of this story that aren't true or either are being left out, and it warrants further investigation.
Could it be that he didn't go alone? - It could be.
- There's something else in there that he's thinking about.
This is something we need to target in on even more.
What I have seen in my many, many years of running these analysis and all kind of investigations, when you have somebody who's telling a true out-and-out lie, the whole thing's made up, you're gonna see everything in here.
You're gonna see so many high-risk false samples.
What we see here is very indicative of him telling nearly the whole truth.
I am extremely confident that, based off of the information he's giving us now, we're gonna have some good success looking in these areas.
I absolutely agreed with Frank's analysis.
It does put the pieces together for me, and I trust Frank's opinion regarding the crematory, and we have enough information.
We can really move forward quickly.
- What do you think? - Eh.
- "Eh"? - Different.
- "Eh"? - Something different.
I encourage you not to believe it, honestly.
I encourage you to let it prove itself to you.
- Hey, Dave.
- Hey.
- Sorry to bother you.
- All right.
We just got through analyzing a couple parts of the video from New Orleans, specifically the part about the subdivision and the dirt road at the top of the hill and also the crematory, and the bottom line and in the results is that he's telling the truth.
- Really? - Yes.
Wow.
But this just confirms what my beliefs were from after hearing what he said from last week.
- Yeah, okay.
- Okay? All right, sounds good.
All right, I'll be in touch with you.
- Okay, sounds good.
- All right, thank you.
All right, Bye.
We still haven't heard from Gabriel.
Dave said he wants to give him till Wednesday, and then we'll come up with our plan B to go forth.
Without Gabriel and John? Yep.
Yep.
Gabriel and John, they are key to finding where the evidence is, because if I send you up a particular trail or whatever, and you're looking for a cactus and a rock, it's it's futile.
Without John actually saying that this is the spot, it's a needle in a haystack.
[CELL PHONE CHIMES.]
Gabriel just sent me a message and said he was ready.
[PHONE LINE TRILLING.]
Gabriel.
So what's going on with John? I understand that.
Gabriel, I know that you I know that you've gone the extra mile.
Dealing with Gabriel on a day-to-day basis is very challenging.
It's challenging having to deal with his frustration, conversation after conversation after conversation.
I spend money every day to if I didn't give him what he wanted, he would've never went to New Orleans.
I feel like I'm getting taken advantage of when I am doing all the goddamn work, and this is how I feel.
I feel like I'm getting slapped in the face Okay FEMALE ANNOUNCER: For more information on "The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway" go to oxygen.
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[BELL DINGS.]
My daughter is Natalee Holloway.
She went missing in Aruba in May 2005.
I never dreamed that 12 years and we still have nothing up until now.
[DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
One day, van der Sloot says, "I'm gonna give you $1,500 to move the body.
" I'm wiring the room that y'all are gonna be staying in.
It will be used for law enforcement.
This guy knows something, and I'm gonna find out what.
The surveillance, it's never scripted, so you have to be prepared for anything.
It did, and that's concerning.
We need to get John's confession on tape, so we can use that against him in a criminal case that may lead to the conviction of Joran van der Sloot.
You know what our goal is, correct? [SWEEPING STRING MUSIC.]
[DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
There's been some changes, or I should say some added information that you need to know about.
With day one with the sting operation behind us, it's time to tell Dave where we are.
Last night, John changed his story.
Originally, he told Gabriel that he recovered Natalee's remains from the national forest, and now he claims it's at a different location, near his aunt's rental property, He's already admitted that he was involved in moving Natalee's remains, okay, and I'm gonna let you see right from the horse's mouth.
Okay.
John, I think, is trying to throw Gabriel off because he's changed the story.
John's girlfriend, she doesn't trust Gabe, and I think she's trying to convince John not to trust Gabriel as well.
Paulus van der Sloot was smart enough not to bury somebody in a residential area, and, you know, what are the odds that they'd pick a spot John happens to be so familiar with? But I know he knows where she is.
He knows the details of that night that only Joran van der Sloot could've told him.
Now, in this section of the tape, John is sharing his admiration for Joran.
He's enamored with Joran van der Sloot.
He idolizes the guy, and I don't know why, and it seems to me that anything that Joran would want him to do, then would be willing to do it.
You know, I'm thinking, "Why would anyone in their crazy mind want to be friends with him?" And I found out that they actually became what I understand to be lovers.
Everyone says, "Oh, he's obsessed with Joran.
" Yeah, I was a little obsessed with him.
We used to hook up with girls all the time and go out partying and gambling and stuff, and then one night, we were having a threesome.
- Where? - At my house.
- At your house? - Yeah.
So you guys would bring the girls to your house? Yeah, but the problem was, the girl finished before us and passed the fuck out 'cause we were all drunk as shit.
- Okay.
- So then he's like, um uh, "Don't worry.
Just turn off the lights.
" "This is how we do it in Europe.
" I'm like, "This ain't no 'Brokeback Mountain' shit going down.
" He's like, "Just shut up.
It'll all be over soon.
" After that, there wasn't no hesitation.
We were all team players after that to get each other off.
What do you mean, team player? Well, whatever it took to get each other off.
You turn off the lights, and you go at it.
It's European style.
He'll do anything for his best friend.
It sucks that Stephany put him behind bars, 'cause our partying days are over.
That dumb bitch, I fucking hope she rolls in her fucking grave for putting him there 'cause it's her fault he's there.
It's not his fault for killing her.
It's her fault for egging him on.
I've watched a lot of the tapes that Gabriel has made, and it's quite evident that John's trying to be the same monster that Joran van der Sloot is.
[CELL PHONE RINGING.]
He's too busy texting.
He was distracted the whole time he was asking those questions.
When Kathy was watching John and Gabriel last night, it seemed to be a lot of conflicts with John's girlfriend.
John's girlfriend doesn't trust Gabriel.
We need to make sure she's not tipping off John that Gabriel's trying to set him up.
My concern is, the girlfriend's gonna try to circumvent this whole thing, is what my concern is.
I want the girlfriend to go to Aruba.
- Yeah.
- If we can convince girlfriend to come to Aruba, then we can keep an eye on her, and there's a possibility she'd be brought in for questioning, along with John and Gabriel, and that way, we'll have one more witness to corroborate the story.
I think what's gonna happen is, is Lauren and John will start making up a different story.
They'll lead Gabriel here, to the Aunt's house.
I'm telling you, it's off in the national forest.
We can check the Aunt's house first.
- Yeah.
- And if it's not there, we'll know it's in the national forest.
I know Dave's concerned, but if we can get the location identified and gather the DNA and evidence, then we'll get John and Joran van der Sloot to serve the time that they deserve for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
What was our goal to come here to get him to do? Give those statements.
Lock John in as party to the crime, okay, so we can take it to the Aruba authorities, and they will get interested, okay.
That's our whole goal.
We can get him locked in to certain things that he's directly involved in.
Then we can use it against him.
We'll see again tonight.
[CLEARS THROAT.]
We still need to know how much Joran paid John to remove Natalee's remains.
We need to know the exact location where he dug up the body, we need to know where he took the body to have it cremated, and we need it all on tape.
[PHONE LINE TRILLING.]
- Hello.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- Tell me what's going on.
What's the chances of getting a couple other things answered? Right now, it's real important, because we need to ask him what his involvement is as far as a crime is concerned, and I need to know where.
That's a big fricking change from "it was in the forest.
" Now it's at the end of the street in a cul-de-sac on a dirt road.
I feel a lot of pressure.
I just want to get this done.
I want the time to come down where we go to Aruba, and this all just falls into place.
Here's something else that's real important.
Uh-huh.
Find out where the crematory was located.
I know.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
[DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
- Is it too cold? - No, it's nice out.
Real nice.
It's perfect.
Today is the last day.
We're at it full force, and we're just constantly on guard, waiting for the information to come out.
- You want to go to that market? - Yeah, let's go eat.
We need to get the confession to put someone in jail.
Now it's just a waiting game.
[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC.]
This is the 9th Ward area where Hurricane Katrina occurred.
It affected our investigation in a number of ways.
The news media was basically pushing the Aruban authorities to come up with an answer and come up with, you know, an arrest.
Hurricane Katrina occurred on August the 29th, 2005.
We're expecting upwards of 20,000 to 30,000 people inside the Superdome here for Katrina.
All the news media had vacated the island.
It was a very quiet time, and Joran van der Sloot was released within days after this happened.
I think it was a prime opportunity to allow this release to occur without cameras being involved.
I think they took the opportunity to basically shut the case down.
When the news media left, everything stopped.
[DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
After 12 weeks in custody, Joran van der Sloot is getting what he wants.
A judge has ruled there is no longer any reason to hold the 18-year-old.
We began focusing on Hurricane Katrina for a long time and rightly so.
You know, not in my benefit, but for their benefit.
You know, I it, um It was a sad situation down here.
We had a lot of damage back home in Meridian, Mississippi.
I had to attend to that for several months and just let the investigation go at that point in time.
I'm in the insurance business, and I had several hundred people that were my clients that needed help, and, you know, I just had to put a lot of things on the back burner at that time.
You just have to.
A lot of people lost their homes, and I did everything I could do to help my clientele and any others that needed help.
You just have to do what you have to do, and I did, and it took several months later when things kind of settled down to get the ball rolling again.
I think I arrived back in Aruba sometime in October.
I'll never forget.
October the 21st was Natalee's birthday, and I was down in a well, and I got so frustrated that I crawled out, and I swore I'd never come back to this island again, you know, just thinking about that you're looking for Natalee in a hole in Aruba on her birthday.
And I thought I'd never be back, but I did and, uh and still looking 12 years later.
You know, this new lead may be exactly what we need to regain the media's attention to get Aruba to move forward in the investigation and maybe finally solve it.
[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC.]
We are running out of time, so everything is high gear.
We knew it wouldn't be easy.
We're ready for it.
We're as prepared as we can be.
Gabriel knows what to do, and he's gonna do it.
You had the bury the fucking body, like, deep enough, you know.
I know, but I like hearing it because it's like you were part of that.
I would have liked to seen it and witness what you did, you know.
[WHISPERING.]
I'm ecstatic.
We got it all.
Where she was buried, what happened after he dug up the bones, why he dug up the bones.
The fact that the perpetrator is mentioning pertinent information that we've never heard before, to me, just substantiates everything else that he has previously said.
I mean, he's got information that's not out there.
[SOFT DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
- Good morning.
- Hey, T.
J.
How are you? - Long night.
- Yeah, I can imagine.
Last night, we got the confession that will be the basis for the Aruban authorities to reopen the investigation, and that will help us to find the burial site.
A lot of this information's graphic and difficult to hear, but I need to share it with Dave, so he's fully up to speed, so we can decide our next steps.
Let's let you watch some of the footage.
Okay.
Did he ever tell you what actually like, what actually happened that night? Like, you know, to see Natalee die in there? [SIGHS.]
- Mm-hmm.
- [BREATHES DEEPLY.]
You don't think that it was wrong of him? Who in the hell like, who helped him? You know, I've always had a suspicion that Paulus van der Sloot played a role in this.
Paulus van der Sloot made a statement, "No body, no case," which means that if they can't find a body, then no one can be arrested for the murder of Natalee.
How much involvement does he have in this case to make that type of statement, "No body, no case"? So it made me think that he's very, very confident that Natalee would not ever be recovered.
We did all this sonar 7 miles off the coast of Aruba, searched the island completely, and they weren't the least bit concerned.
About two months into the search operation, I was to the point of frustration.
We happened to come up on this gravel road, and lo and behold, there's the prison where Joran was being held, and I was so frustrated.
I said, "You know, I've never met Joran", and he's done something to my daughter.
" I said, "We're into it far enough along that I know" he had something to do with her disappearance.
" And I said, "You know, I'm sick of this.
" I'm fixing to have a nose-to-nose talk "with Joran van der Sloot," and here came Paulus, and he agreed to shake my hand, and I kind of squeezed on his hand, and he kind of squeezed back.
And he said, "No.
" I don't want you to see Joran.
" And I said, "Okay, big boy.
" I'm not letting go of your hand until I get some answers.
" Paulus got very nervous because I continued to hang on to his hand, and we continued the conversation in a stern way that this is not going right, and I've got to have some answers, and your son is involved in it, and he basically, in parting words I felt like he almost was going to break.
His lip started quivering, and he finally said, "I know you care about your daughter, "but I care about my son, and I'll do everything I can to protect him.
" And I probably could've punched him out right there.
[TENSE MUSIC.]
How did you come about to say, "Hey, man, you know", I'm gonna get caught"? And you went in and you fucking dug the body up? Did it smell? Then what did van der Sloot say? You got it cremated, and then you brung it back? How in the hell did you get away with, uh cremating the body, dude? - Mm-hmm.
- Can I push can I What did you do with the body? Like, not the body, the ashes.
You just threw them anywhere? How much was it? Like, how much dust? That's a lot, maybe because it was combined with the dog.
[EXHALES SHARPLY.]
[CLEARS THROAT.]
John clearly knows what he did is a crime, as to his involvement in discarding Natalee's remains.
We're one step closer to see him facing charges.
What was his reaction to, like, "Oh, my God, John", you did this.
You did this"? You don't think that her mom and her dad went through hell? That's so sick.
He's just like Joran van der Sloot.
He could care less if, uh about anyone but himself.
You didn't have no, like, remorse towards any of this? [SOMBER MUSIC.]
Let me get a drink.
[CLEARS THROAT.]
[EXHALES SLOWLY.]
You know, while watching that video, you know, I can only take so much.
The memories I have of Natalee.
Show us how you danced today, Natalee.
Very energetic, very loving, very kind.
She would do anything for you.
You know, just a real good kid, and to hear this guy desecrate her remains to the point where we could never have a funeral, I just couldn't watch it.
[SOFT PIANO MUSIC.]
He's emotionally drained over this, and that's his this has been his whole goal - Yeah.
- To find out the truth, and we're finding out the truth.
Yeah.
Right.
Dave and I have built a relationship, and this has gone beyond professional.
It's personal.
Natalee's personal to me, and I want something to come out of this.
I feel a lot of Dave's emotions.
He's a father who's got to the bottom of what happened to his daughter.
He is very angry.
He told me yesterday, "Don't let me get around John Ludwig.
" "If I find this is what he's done to my daughter," "don't let me get around that guy," and "'Cause I'm angry.
I'm mad.
" And I said, "I know you are.
" [DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
John Ludwig, I know he's involved.
It's just a matter of being able to prove what he did and what his involvement was with Natalee Holloway.
[DOOR OPENS.]
You okay? Yeah, I'm good, man.
I'm satisfied with what we've accomplished here in New Orleans.
John said where the body was buried and his instructions by Joran van der Sloot where he was paid to go out and remove the remains and take them to a crematory and then took possession of the ashes and then turned them over to Joran van der Sloot.
I mean, at least we definitely know he's involved.
- Right.
- It's just a matter of We know he's involved.
He's already established that.
But we need physical evidence of what he's involved with.
- Yeah, so we can prove it.
- Yep.
In Aruba, you can confess all you want, and you've got to have facts the police have to have some sort of evidence to back it up that what you say is true, which in the United States is totally different.
If I confess to a crime, then I'm going to jail the rest of my life.
Joran van der Sloot has given a number of stories and confessions over the entire course of this investigation.
I think Joran van der Sloot liked the attention of the media.
Van der Sloot went on the record with us in 2006.
Well, now his story changes again.
Joran van der Sloot is talking again.
He has confessed again.
He liked toying with the police and media.
He felt like the police did a poor job, and I think he grew a big ego out of it.
[SPEAKING NATIVE LANGUAGE.]
Some people would pay him for these stories.
If you offer Joran $10,000 tomorrow and ask him to tell you a fifth story, he'll do it.
No one expects anyone to believe anything this kid has to say anymore.
Quite frankly, he's on the verge of sociopath and despicable.
I would say that there was at least 10 to 15 different versions of what happened.
This time it's gonna be different because we're finally gonna find some evidence that's gonna have him locked up for good.
I want to sit down with Eric.
He's been in the FBI for a number of years, and I want to get his ideas and thoughts.
You know, I'm not gonna be able to look at it from a analytic point of view because I'm gonna be focused on what they're saying about my daughter.
Tell me what you thought about the recording.
- Uh - A lot of key things came out.
If what he says is true, he dug her remains up and then had them incinerated.
- He needs the book thrown at him.
- Yeah, yeah.
And I what we do over the next few weeks is very, very critical that we get something - and get it to the Arubans - Exactly.
Before he can get off the hook.
I don't know if it's still the same Chief of Police that's there or who I No, they change those out regularly.
Everything's changed, the Prosecutor, the Prime Minister, Chief of Police.
Most of the investigators have been shuffled out.
I think that bringing Natalee's case back to light is going to enhance their desire to bring it to some resolution because you had a lot of Government Officials whose actions were not above board.
With bringing forward the new evidence, I think the new government will look at it and say, "Hey, you know, these guys screwed it up the first time.
- "Let's do it right this time.
" - Yeah, yeah, I think so too.
So taking a hard look, giving it a fresh approach, and giving you a fair shake, and I take my hat off to you for, uh your patience, your demeanor because having been down this road so many times, and here's this, you know, little worm saying what he did, - and, you know, uh - Yeah.
Your restraint is is awesome.
You know, your restraint and, you know, li hoping everything works out is awesome, because, um um, a little a little turd like that - deserves what he gets.
- Oh, yeah, yeah.
We've been through so many tips and leads and missteps, and I'm thinking what else could there be? I mean, I've been through ocean searches, land searches, draining ponds, searching the sand dunes for months and months and months.
And, uh, so, uh You've been going down this road for a long time, and, you know, it's time for you to get some closure.
It's time for you to know, you know, what happened.
- Mm-hmm.
- You wanna know what happened.
I mean, if she drowned, if she was killed, if she was Whatever happened, you want to know.
If her remains are there, you know, Dave would wanna bring her back and give her a decent burial.
He's a father who, you know, has gone through a lot, and I know he probably thinks of his daughter every single day, several times a day, and he just wants to know what happened.
You've been on this journey a long time.
You've hit dead end after dead end, and hopefully this will get you to your finish line.
I'm hoping.
I'm hoping.
So we've got 2 1/2 days of, uh, filming.
We've gotten a lot of footage of our informant and our perpetrator.
There in Aruba, if we put a good report together for them, to incorporate also the videos and all the undercovers that we've done and the information we've compiled and the recordings that we have directly with Gabriel, they could take Gabriel, the girlfriend, and John into custody and then let them commence an investigation or pick it back up or open the case back up.
Will the statements that John made to Gabriel be admissible? In terms of using it as an investigative tool to get him to talk, yeah, that's one thing.
But can you use them in terms of a prosecution? That is the million-dollar question.
I can tell you right now the recordings are not gonna be admissible because they were not obtained by a police official from Aruba.
If you're a witness in Aruba, they can take you into custody, okay, and they can hold you up to 14 days.
If we name three people, the perpetrator, Gabriel, the girlfriend's all on the island.
They're not going anywhere.
They're not gonna let them off the island.
Those three people are gonna get taken into custody, and putting them in a prison for even a short duration, I think they'll get what they need to corroborate the evidence that we've already compiled.
If we can find the burial site, there still should be DNA in the soil for us to gather as evidence.
If we find the crime scene, it's all over.
Here's something we might need to be careful about, because I know you want the girlfriend to go to Aruba, but I'm not sure we can trust her.
You know, right now, John's girlfriend, she's already suspicious on Gabriel, and I don't want her telling John not to give Gabriel the details that we need.
Let me ask you this.
Do you think we're going to run this investigation based on something that we think is gonna happen? Oh, I know.
I'm just trying to be careful.
I'm just looking for no mistakes and no surprises.
[SOFT DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
Our next step is, as soon as we get back to Atlanta, we'll try to determine whether the information that we gathered here in New Orleans is true or not.
Then we'll plan a trip to Aruba where John will show Gabriel where exactly he dug up the body.
We're gonna give Gabriel a GPS, so he can drop it at the exact spot where John moved the remains.
Then we can move in with a cadaver dog to find the exact location to find the DNA.
[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC.]
[PHONE LINE TRILLING.]
Since we got back from New Orleans, we've been trying to get Gabriel on the phone to plan our trip to Aruba.
Gabriel, we're trying to get in touch with you.
Can you give me a call back? Thanks.
This is a little disturbing.
The whole thing right now is hanging on Gabriel to be able to go to Aruba.
That's what's holding us up right now.
Gabriel is not being reliable as he used to be.
He's having a lot of difficulty handling John.
John's a handful.
We all know that, and I think Gabriel's a little overwhelmed.
This is a lot of pressure, and I think it's too much for him.
So you said Gabriel and John have been in an argument the last couple days? Yeah, they're not getting along.
He's being a little difficult.
Gabriel will complain all the time.
"You just don't know how hard it is to take care of this guy.
"He goes off, and he's outside committing crimes, he's and I'm having to bail him out.
" It's draining Gabriel.
Gabriel can't work.
He doesn't want to work 'cause he can't leave this guy by himself in his home.
He's stolen a lot of money, so he's not only dealing with something that's home with him every day.
He's having to deal with keeping him out of trouble, and I'm trying to get him mind set that it's almost over.
The end is near.
Is this basically his idea of pouting, not answering your call? I don't know.
He's just talking about, he says he has his own expenses that have to be paid, and he can't leave John in the house by himself.
Is this something new or just when he gets pissed off? No, when he gets frustrated, that's what he brings up.
I mean, Gabriel wants to get rid of him.
I mean, he wants him gone.
Right.
And he said the sooner the better.
So that's why we talked yesterday about what we need to do and get prepared to get them to Aruba.
We're so close, but we need that one last piece.
We need to know where the burial site is.
Now is not the time for Gabriel to be flaky with us.
He needs to focus and get back on track.
He needs to stop complaining and just get it done.
If John and Gabe don't come to Aruba, we're fucked.
[DRAMATIC MUSIC.]
The Natalee Holloway case began in May of 2005.
I got captured by it, and I picked up the phone and made contact with the Holloway family, and I told them, I said, "You probably have a lot of investigators "that's made inquiries to you about the case in Aruba, "but I have something a little bit different.
"I have a system called layered voice analysis, "and I have analyzed these guys that have been involved "with the disappearance of your daughter, and they're not telling the truth.
" There was more false statements in that transmission than I've ever seen in any other interview I've ever done.
He and his team of detectives are among the few now using layered voice analysis, or LVA.
It works off of involuntary changes of voice and how a person feels.
I don't need to have a person in front of me in order to capture audio that I need to get results from the voice analysis.
I can take it over the TV.
I can do it from a recording, over the phone.
We know that the voice analysis nor the polygraph can be used in Aruba, but we know that it's an investigative focus tool which leads us to other things that we can look into.
John has changed his story.
We're going to do an analysis on John and Gabriel's conversation and try to confirm some of the information that was communicated in the last couple of days to be true or not true.
We're going to run the audio of the perpetrator through the layered voice analysis and see how it comes back as far as how truthful he's being after changing his story.
Okay, are you keyed up on the segment we want to try? - Yeah, we're ready to go.
- Okay.
It's, like, it wasn't in a national park.
"It wasn't in a national park.
" So these two snippets together, we have highly stressed and truth.
He's smart enough to know he's describing himself committing a crime.
When you're looking at these, you can't look at any individual snippet by itself.
You're looking at what's around it.
You're looking at the numbers.
You're looking at what's being said here, and I think he's telling the truth here, almost entirely, uh, that it's not in the national forest, and that he's, uh it's going to be somewhere close to his aunt's house.
My instincts all along, just from watching the interview and listening to what the perpetrator had to say, it was my belief that he was being truthful that this new location was the actual location, and now that we're able to confirm with the voice analysis some of the information that we were in question with.
I feel good about it.
Moving on to the next relevant section.
He's talking about at the crematory and that how van der Sloot knew that he could get the cremation done without anybody looking in the box.
He knew he could get it done.
He had paid him under the table money.
Van der Sloot knew the family.
And again, this shows up as inaccuracy again.
Under the table money it's 'cause there was We see a high tension, bad feelings, medium risk, inaccuracies.
There's definitely something more here to explore that he's holding back about the crematory.
Still a little apprehensive.
I, uh I haven't swallowed the Kool-Aid yet.
This was the first time seeing it.
And that inaccuracy, does it show that he may not have gone to a crematorium? Or is there That's a great question.
There's definitely deception here.
There's definitely I would call this a medium level of deception, but if he had not gone to the crematory at all, it would be a much higher result than this.
There are elements of this story that aren't true or either are being left out, and it warrants further investigation.
Could it be that he didn't go alone? - It could be.
- There's something else in there that he's thinking about.
This is something we need to target in on even more.
What I have seen in my many, many years of running these analysis and all kind of investigations, when you have somebody who's telling a true out-and-out lie, the whole thing's made up, you're gonna see everything in here.
You're gonna see so many high-risk false samples.
What we see here is very indicative of him telling nearly the whole truth.
I am extremely confident that, based off of the information he's giving us now, we're gonna have some good success looking in these areas.
I absolutely agreed with Frank's analysis.
It does put the pieces together for me, and I trust Frank's opinion regarding the crematory, and we have enough information.
We can really move forward quickly.
- What do you think? - Eh.
- "Eh"? - Different.
- "Eh"? - Something different.
I encourage you not to believe it, honestly.
I encourage you to let it prove itself to you.
- Hey, Dave.
- Hey.
- Sorry to bother you.
- All right.
We just got through analyzing a couple parts of the video from New Orleans, specifically the part about the subdivision and the dirt road at the top of the hill and also the crematory, and the bottom line and in the results is that he's telling the truth.
- Really? - Yes.
Wow.
But this just confirms what my beliefs were from after hearing what he said from last week.
- Yeah, okay.
- Okay? All right, sounds good.
All right, I'll be in touch with you.
- Okay, sounds good.
- All right, thank you.
All right, Bye.
We still haven't heard from Gabriel.
Dave said he wants to give him till Wednesday, and then we'll come up with our plan B to go forth.
Without Gabriel and John? Yep.
Yep.
Gabriel and John, they are key to finding where the evidence is, because if I send you up a particular trail or whatever, and you're looking for a cactus and a rock, it's it's futile.
Without John actually saying that this is the spot, it's a needle in a haystack.
[CELL PHONE CHIMES.]
Gabriel just sent me a message and said he was ready.
[PHONE LINE TRILLING.]
Gabriel.
So what's going on with John? I understand that.
Gabriel, I know that you I know that you've gone the extra mile.
Dealing with Gabriel on a day-to-day basis is very challenging.
It's challenging having to deal with his frustration, conversation after conversation after conversation.
I spend money every day to if I didn't give him what he wanted, he would've never went to New Orleans.
I feel like I'm getting taken advantage of when I am doing all the goddamn work, and this is how I feel.
I feel like I'm getting slapped in the face Okay FEMALE ANNOUNCER: For more information on "The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway" go to oxygen.
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[BELL DINGS.]