Kindred Spirits (2016) s01e04 Episode Script
The Basement
I AM PLACING THIS RECORDER IN THE CLOSET.
OOH! ADAM? I'M SORRY.
DID SOMETHING JUST TOUCH YOU? YES! Sandy: MY UNCLE WAS MURDERED IN HERE.
I SAW A MAN STANDING RIGHT HERE IN MY ROOM.
IS THERE ANYBODY DOWN THERE? Linda: MY DAUGHTER HAD THE HOUSE BLESSED.
BUT I FELT LIKE THERE WAS SOME EVIL LEFT BEHIND.
OH, MY GOD! -- Captions by VITAC -- I'M AMY BRUNI.
AND I'M ADAM BERRY.
WE'VE SPEN A COMBINED 30 YEARS INVESTIGATING THE WORLD'S MOST TERRIFYING HAUNTINGS.
AFTER THOUSANDS OF CASES, WE ARE READY FOR OUR MOST IMPORTANT JOURNEY YET.
[ BOTH GASP .]
RESCUING FAMILIES TERRORIZED BY PARANORMAL ACTIVITY IN THEIR OWN HOMES.
WE UNCOVER THE TRUTH BEHIND THE HAUNTING TO HELP FAMILIES RECLAIM THEIR HOMES THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND THEIR LIVES.
CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS Sandy: Good evening.
A message on behalf of my mother, Linda.
She lives in Chelsea, Massachusetts.
And her house is most definitely haunted.
She's the victim of shadow figures.
She'll never go down in the basement.
She's lived there for more than 35 years.
And it's the house where she raised her five kids.
My Uncle Eric was actually murdered in the house, in one of the apartments downstairs.
We don't know if it's him or something else in the house.
Please, come check out the house.
THAT'S A LOT.
I KNOW.
IT'S A LOT.
AND THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING.
THIS CASE, ALMOST MORE THAN ANY OTHER CASE WE'VE DONE, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A LOT RIDING ON IT.
WOW.
THE BROTHER'S MURDERED IN THE BASEMENT? YEAH, THE BROTHER.
WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN? THE MURDER IN THE BASEMEN TOOK PLACE IN, I BELIEVE, 1995.
HER BROTHER ERIC, WHO WAS MENTALLY HANDICAPPED, HAD THE BRAIN CAPACITY OF LIKE A 10- OR 12-YEAR-OLD, WAS MURDERED BY HIS OWN BROTHER.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
IT WAS AWFUL.
DO WE KNOW WHY? I DON'T KNOW YET.
BUT THEY EXPERIENCED ACTIVITY EVEN BEFORE THEN.
THAT IS CRAZY.
SHE WANTS TO KNOW WHO IT IS.
SHE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.
IF IT'S HER FAMILY, SHE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE OKAY.
IF IT IS THE BROTHER WHO WAS MURDERED, THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE CONTACT WITH HIM AND FIND OU IF MEANS EVERYONE WELL.
SHE'S LIKE, "YOU GUYS ARE KINDA MY ONLY HOPE AT THIS POINT.
" Bruni: THIS IS GONNA BE A TOUGH CASE.
WE'RE DEALING WITH A HOME THAT'S HAD PARANORMAL ACTIVITY FOR MORE THAN 35 YEARS, SOME OF WHICH MAY BE LINKED TO A TRAGIC MURDER.
SO THE EMOTIONAL TIES RUN DEEP.
BUT WE'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO DETERMINE WHAT SPIRIT OR SPIRITS ARE SCARING THE FAMILY AND HOPEFULLY HELP THEM OVERCOME THEIR FEARS.
YOUR HOUSE IS GORGEOUS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS MY DAUGHTER SANDY.
Berry: HI.
[ CHUCKLES .]
SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE? UM, SINCE '74.
OH, MY GOODNESS.
SO A WHILE.
I KNOW YOU GUYS CONTACTED US.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT GOING ON HERE.
A LOT OF STRANGE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED AFTER WE HAD SOME DEATHS IN THE FAMILY, EVEN PRIOR TO THAT.
EVEN PRIOR.
YEAH, WHEN WE FIRST -- WHEN I FIRS BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
SO ACTIVITY HAPPENED BEFORE YOUR BROTHER PASSED.
IT WAS CONSTANTLY THINGS HAPPENING.
IT'S GETTING TO A POINT NOW IT'S AN EVERYDAY OCCURRENCE.
SOMETHING HAPPENED THIS WEEK, TOO.
MY HUSBAND WOULD SEE SHADOWS WALKING FROM ONE BEDROOM TO ANOTHER.
THEY'RE VERY -- VERY FRIGHTENING.
IT SEEMS LIKE THIS HOUSE, THEY PLAY TRICKS.
IT'S, LIKE, WHOEVER THIS IS, IT'S, LIKE, WANTS YOU TO GET, LIKE, A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW? I STILL GET CHILLS TODAY THINKING ABOUT IT.
ABOUT 3 OR 4 WEEKS AGO, I WAS SLEEPING.
SOMETHING WOKE ME UP, LIKE, SOMETHING THAT WASN'T NORMAL.
MY HUSBAND CAME INTO THE BEDROOM AND SAW SOMEONE TALL STAND OVER ME AND TOUCH MY FACE.
SO THAT'S WHEN I REALLY GOT SCARED.
WHO DO YOU THINK THAT MIGHT BE? I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE MAYBE IT'S MY UNCLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
THIS WAS A DIFFERENT PRESENCE, A PRESENCE THAT KIND OF SCARED ME.
BUT WHATEVER IT WAS, IT SCARED ME ENOUGH FOR ME TO LOOK FOR ROSARY BEADS.
I NEED TO KNOW WHY THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW FOR MY OWN PIECE OF MIND AND FOR MY CHILDREN.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW.
I'M THINKING MAYBE WE COULD HEAD DOWNSTAIRS.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, SANDY WILL TAKE YOU DOWN.
YOU DON'T GO DOWNSTAIRS AT ALL? NO.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S HEARTBREAKING THAT THERE'S A PAR OF YOUR HOUSE THAT YOU CAN' EVEN USE AT ALL AND YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE GOING DOWN THERE.
AND IT'S, LIKE, I MEAN, THIS IS YOUR HOME.
THIS IS YOUR HOME.
WHEN I'M AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS, I JUST GET THIS STRANGE ALMOST LIKE ANXIETY ATTACK.
YEAH.
YEAH, IT'S KINDA LIKE A SHAKY FEELING, GOOSE BUMPS.
LIKE, SHORTNESS OF BREATH.
MM-HMM.
DO YOU THINK THERE'S SOMETHING DOWN IN THE BASEMENT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMEBODY THERE.
JUST DOESN' FEEL COMFORTABLE.
NOT AT ALL.
SEEING YOUR MOM'S REACTION TO THAT, HOW DOES THA MAKE YOU FEEL? AFTER MY UNCLE WAS KILLED, I BEGGED HER TO SELL THE HOUSE AND MOVE.
BUT SHE JUST HAD SUCH A CONNECTION HERE.
AND SHE JUST FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY PUSH ME OUT OF MY HOME.
RIGHT, RIGHT.
AND TO SEE HER NO WANNA COME DOWN HERE, IT IS SAD.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED DOWN HERE? ONE NIGHT, I WAS SLEEPING ON THIS COUCH.
AND SOMETHING WOKE ME UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
AND I LOOKED OVER IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND I SAW SOMEBODY STANDING THERE, LOOKED LIKE AN OUTLINE.
AND I ORIGINALLY HAD THOUGHT, "OH, MY GOD.
SOMEONE BROKE IN, AND I CAUGHT THEM.
SOMEONE'S IN THE HOUSE," BECAUSE IT WAS THAT CLEAR.
SO I DOVE OVER THE COUCH.
AND I HIT THE LIGHT SWITCH HERE.
AND LIGHTS CAME ON, AND NOBODY WAS THERE.
OH, MY GOODNESS.
YEAH, SO THAT WAS A LITTLE WEIRD.
SO THIS IS THE FAMILY ROOM.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER APARTMENT THIS WAY? -CORRECT.
-OKAY.
A LITTLE BACK STORY ON THIS APARTMENT, MY UNCLE LIVED HERE.
MY UNCLE WAS BORN WITH CEREBRAL PALSY AND EPILEPSY.
AND HE ALSO LOST OXYGEN AT BIRTH.
SO HE WAS DEVELOPMENTALLY BEHIND.
HE WAS 33.
BUT HE ALMOST WAS, LIKE, THE AGE OF A 12-YEAR-OLD.
HIS NAME WAS ERIC.
AND HE WAS MURDERED IN HERE.
ACTUALLY RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE DOOR WAS WHERE HIS BODY WAS LEFT.
-OH.
-OH.
WHAT HAPPENED? THERE WAS A DISAGREEMEN WITH HIS BROTHER, MY OTHER UNCLE, WHO HAD DRUG ISSUES.
HE WAS BREAKING INTO MY MOTHER'S HOUSE, AND THERE WAS A FIGHT, AND HE KILLED HIM.
HOW DO YOU DO THA TO SOMEONE? IT WAS AWFUL.
IT WAS TERRIBLE.
IT WAS BRUTAL.
WE HAD TO HAVE CLOSED CASKET.
-IT WAS -- -REALLY? SO I TAKE IT THEN, YOUR OTHER UNCLE HE'S IN PRISON.
IN PRISON FOREVER, RIGHT? OOH.
SO SINCE THEN, I GUESS, WHAT ACTIVITY HAS HAPPENED? MY DAUGHTER LIVED DOWN HERE WITH HER DAUGHTER, ARIANA, MY GRANDDAUGHTER.
AND THERE WERE ALWAYS THINGS HAPPENING.
LIKE, SHE WOULD ALWAYS STAND AT THE EDGE OF HER CRIB, FACING THIS WAY AND LOOK RIGHT AT THE CLOSET.
AND SHE SAW A SHADOW.
-HMM.
-WEIRD.
SHE CLEARLY REMEMBERS IT TO THIS DAY.
THAT'S WHEN I STARTED TO WORRY A LITTLE.
AND THEY ENDED UP MOVING BACK HOME WITH ME, SO -YEAH.
-RIGHT.
IS THAT WHY THEY MOVED BACK? YEAH, SHE WAS JUST -- IT WAS KINDA LIKE, ENOUGH.
AND SHE WAS JUS LIKE, BOOM, HOME.
-WE HAVE A LOT TO LOOK OVER.
-WE HAVE A LOT.
-WE HAVE SO MUCH.
-WE HAVE A LOT TO LOOK OVER.
I HOPE YOU GUYS FIND SOME ANSWERS, ESPECIALLY FOR MY MOTHER.
I JUST WANT HER TO BE COMFORTABLE AGAIN.
Berry: THIS CASE CARRIES MORE EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE THAN MOST.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO FIND ANSWERS FOR LINDA.
THESE CAMERAS ARE JUST ONE TOOL FOR MAKING CONTAC WITH THE SPIRITS AND FIGURING OU WHO IS ACTUALLY HERE.
THIS WHOLE, LIKE, SCENARIO PUTS ME ON EDGE.
IT'S PRETTY HEAVY.
THE LITTLES THINGS MAKE ME UNEASY.
I MEAN, WE'VE INVESTIGATED SOME PRETTY AWFUL PLACES WHERE TERRIBLE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED.
YES, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYWHERE THAT WE INVESTIGATED HAS THERE BEEN SUCH A CLOSE CONNECTION -TO WHAT HAPPENED? -TO WHAT HAPPENED.
RIGHT.
-HER BROTHER -YEAH.
AND THERE'S THE SPOT.
-THAT'S A LOT.
-IT IS A LOT.
I'M GONNA GO PLUG THIS IN HERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFEREN THINGS HAPPENING IN THIS HOUSE -- MANIPULATION OF OBJECTS, SHADOW FIGURES, LINDA'S BROTHER ERIC, WHO WAS VIOLENTLY ATTACKED AND MURDERED IN THE BASEMENT.
AND SO I THINK, LOGICALLY, IT COULD BE HIM.
BUT I'M NOT SURE.
I JUST NEED -- ADAM? Berry: I HEARD FOOTSTEPS.
YOU DID? OVER HERE? I HEARD LIKE TWO FOOTSTEPS, LIKE, BOOM, BOOM.
IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE COMING FROM THE UPSTAIRS HALLWAY.
SOMETHING IS TRYING TO REACH OUT TO US ALREADY.
AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEGUN TO INVESTIGATE.
WE SHOULD FINISH SETTING UP QUICKLY.
IF THERE'S SOMEBODY HERE, THEY ARE GOING TO STAR INTERACTING WITH US NOW.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA WAIT.
SO WE'RE GONNA STAR WITH THE LIVING ROOM, FACING DOWN THE HALLWAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY SAW THE SHADOW FIGURES AND WHERE I HEARD THE FOOTSTEPS.
SO WHAT CAN WE I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR SHADOW FIGURES, WE'LL PU THE REM PODS DOWN.
AND SOMETHING WALKS THROUGH, IT WOULD GO OFF.
Bruni: WE USE REM PODS TO POSSIBLY DETEC THE PRESENCE OF SPIRITS.
LET'S PUT IT RIGH IN FRONT OF THE DOOR WHERE THEY SEE THE SHADOWS.
THEY PICK UP ON ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS, OR EMF.
PARANORMAL RESEARCHERS BELIEVE THAT SUDDEN UNEXPLAINABLE CHANGES IN EMF COULD BE THE SIGN OF GHOSTS.
ARE YOU READY? YEAH, I'M READY.
WHEREVER YOU ARE IN THE HOUSE, CAN YOU MAKE A NOISE SO WE KNOW YOU'RE HERE? IF YOU WALK BY THOSE THINGS ON THE GROUND, THEY MIGHT GO OFF.
CAN YOU WALK TOWARD US, PLEASE? IS THERE ANYBODY DOWN THERE? ARE YOU ERIC? HUH? [ DEVICE BEEPING .]
IF YOU WALK BY THOSE THINGS ON THE GROUND, THEY MIGHT GO OFF.
WHAT WAS THAT? HUH? [ DEVICE BEEPING .]
IS THAT YOU? IS THAT YOU TRYING TO GET OUR ATTENTION? CAN YOU MAKE A NOISE SO WE KNOW YOU'RE HERE? DID YOU HEAR THAT? A KNOCK.
IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS EITHER IN THE KITCHEN OR THE BACK BEDROOM.
I THINK IT WAS COMING FROM, LIKE, HERE.
WASN'T IT? YEAH, MAYBE A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN TO THE LEFT.
THIS SIDE? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
DO IT AGAIN.
CAN YOU MAKE A NOISE SO WE KNOW YOU'RE HERE? SO QUIET! LITTLE TINY KNOCK.
I DON'T -- YEAH.
IF THERE WERE MORE MAYBE THEN IT WOULD'VE BEEN SOMETHING.
Berry: WE GOT ONE EMF SPIKE AND ONE KNOCK SINCE WE'VE BEEN UPSTAIRS.
AND ALTHOUGH THEY'RE BOTH PROMISING SIGNS, EACH WAS SO BRIEF THAT I'M NOT SURE WHATEVER'S HERE IS WILLING TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.
DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING HERE.
BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE OUR APPROACH AND HEAD DOWNSTAIRS.
THE DOWNSTAIRS IS THE HOT SPO FOR ACTIVITIES.
THEY'VE SEEN SHADOW FIGURES.
AND IT'S WHERE ERIC WAS TRAGICALLY MURDERED.
WE NEED TO REALLY FIGURE OU IF ERIC IS ACTUALLY THE SPIRI HAUNTING THIS BASEMENT.
SO THAT'S THE PLACE WE WANNA TACKLE.
OKAY.
HEY, ERIC.
IF YOU'RE HERE, MY NAME IS ADAM.
HI.
I'M AMY.
YOUR FAMILY INVITED US HERE TO TRY TO TALK TO YOU.
I KNOW YOU MIGHT BE A LITTLE SCARED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE MAYBE NO ONE'S REALLY TALKED TO YOU LIKE THIS.
BUT IT'S HARD FOR US TO SEE YOU.
IT'S HARD FOR US TO HEAR YOU.
BUT WE HAVE THIS DEVICE HERE IN HER HAND THAT IF YOU TALK LOUD ENOUGH INTO IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU, AND THEY'RE NO GONNA HURT YOU.
SO, ERIC, ARE YOU HERE? I KEEP SEEING THINGS OUT OF THE CORNER OF MY EYES.
WHAT? I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST KEEP SEEING WEIRD MOVEMENT OU OF THE CORNER OF MY EYES.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO LISTEN TO THIS, OKAY? WE'LL SEE IF WE'RE HEARING YA.
[ DEVICE BEEPS .]
QUIET.
WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE OUR APPROACH.
I THINK I'LL PUT THIS IN HIS ROOM JUST BECAUSE THEN IT'S FURTHER AWAY FROM US AND WAY LESS THREATENING THAN HAVING US, LIKE, MAKE HIM APPROACH US.
I'M GONNA FILM I WITH A FULL-SPECTRUM CAMERA.
AND MAYBE IT'LL PICK UP SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING.
ALL RIGHT, ERIC.
SO NOW YOU'RE IN THERE IN YOUR SAFE PLACE.
SO CAN YOU LET US KNOW YOU'RE THERE? CAN YOU KNOCK FOR ME LIKE THIS? [ KNOCKS .]
[ CLICKING .]
IS THAT NOISE COMING FROM THE BEDROOM? THAT SOUND IS THE FULL-SPECTRUM TRYING TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING? IF THAT'S YOU WALKING IN FRONT OF OUR CAMERA TO TAKE YOUR PICTURE, DON'T BE AFRAID.
YOU CAN STAND THERE ALL YOU WANT.
WHY WOULD I BE FOCUSING? I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT'S IT TRYING TO FOCUS ON? NO, LET IT KEEP GOING.
BUT, LIKE, I REALLY WANNA SEE WHAT IT'S FOCUSING ON.
ERIC, IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE HERE WITH YOU OR ARE YOU ALL ALONE? WANNA GO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CAMERA? YEAH.
THAT'S WEIRD.
LET ME JUS SEE WHY THIS YEAH, WHAT I WAS FOCUSING ON.
YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS VIDEO.
SO EITHER THE CAMERA IS PICKING UP ON SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T SEE, OR SOMETHING IS TOUCHING THE CAMERA.
AND WE GOT NOTHING ON THE RECORDER EITHER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET HIM TO TRUST US.
YEAH.
ALL RIGHT.
I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO SHIFT FOCUS.
WHAT IF WE WAN TO THE TABLE IN THERE AND JUST KIND OF GAVE HIM SPACE? YEAH.
IT WAS SO QUIET.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S HIM.
I DON'T KNOW THA HE'S READY TO TALK TO US.
YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE HE MIGHT HAVE SOME TRUST ISSUES AT THIS POINT.
I'M THINKING THAT THIS IS A CASE THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE THE FAMILY COME IN.
DO YOU THINK WE COULD GET LINDA? I DON'T THINK SHE WOULD COME DOWN HERE.
I THINK WE COULD GET SANDY DOWN HERE.
I MEAN, I WOULD -- YEAH, I AGREE.
I'M ALSO -- I'M GONNA CALL MY FRIEND TOMORROW BECAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER IDEA ON HOW TO GET ERIC TO TALK TO US.
Bruni: I'VE CALLED IN MY FRIEND CHRISTINE, WHO IS ANOTHER PARANORMAL INVESTIGATOR.
SHE DESIGNED THIS HOLOGRAM DIVORCE THAT CAN PRODUCE 3-D IMAGES.
WE'RE HOPING THAT IT WILL KIND OF BE A TRIGGER OBJECT, KIND OF ENTICE ENTITIES OU AND HAVE THEM COME INTERACT WITH US, WHETHER IT'S ERIC OR SOMEONE ELSE.
IT'S MADE USING A REGULAR FLAT-SCREEN TV AND SOME PLEXIGLAS.
AND AROUND I IS A PROXIMITY SENSOR, SO IF ANYTHING GOES TOWARD THE HOLOGRAM, IT WILL SET OFF THE ALARM.
WE'RE ALSO BRING SANDY INTO THE INVESTIGATION.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OVER.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
COME ON IN.
Bruni: SHE'S SOMEONE WHO ERIC WILL BE FAMILIAR WITH AND WHO HE WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE TALKING TO.
THIS IS THE HOLOGRAM.
AND IT FLIPS THROUGH.
AND SO IT FEELS LIKE YOU CAN, LIKE, REACH IN AND TOUCH IT, YOU KNOW? OKAY, SO I THINK THAT THE BES THING FOR YOU TO DO IS TO BASICALLY JUST KIND OF TALK TO ERIC.
OKAY.
LET HIM KNOW WHO WE ARE AND THAT WE'RE SAFE.
UM, ERIC, IT'S ME, SANDY.
THESE ARE MY FRIENDS AMY AND ADAM.
THEY'RE VERY NICE.
HI.
AND THEY'RE HERE TO HELP YOU TALK TO US.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY TO ME, MOM, THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL HELP US DO THAT.
SO IT'S TOTALLY OKAY TO TALK TO THEM.
ERIC, ARE YOU HERE WITH US? DO YOU LIKE THE HOLOGRAM RIGHT HERE? IT'S A DINOSAUR.
THAT'S PRETTY COOL, RIGHT? YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT YOUR HAND IN HERE LIKE THIS.
WHOA.
I'M GRABBING THE DINOSAUR.
SO IF YOU'RE HERE, CAN YOU LET US KNOW SOMEHOW? JUST TOUCH THE HOLOGRAM OR SAY SOMETHING.
WAS THAT YOU THAT USED TO PLAY WITH ARIANA, WHEN SHE WAS DOWN HERE IN YOUR ROOM? DO YOU WANNA LISTEN TO THIS? YEAH, LET'S LISTEN TO IT.
WAIT.
WHAT IS THAT? IS THA WHAT WAS THAT WAS? YEAH, LISTEN.
[ GASPS .]
OH, MY -- CLEAR AS DAY.
"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" -"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" -"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" -"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" -"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" IT'S LIKE THERE'S MORE THAN ONE.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S KEEP TALKING, OKAY? SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING TO US.
YOU SAID, "WE NEED TO TOUCH IT.
" SO HOW MANY OF YOU ARE HERE? CAN YOU KNOCK ON SOMETHING? LET'S LISTEN.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING TO US.
QUIET.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, WHOEVER THIS IS HAS STOPPED COMMUNICATING WITH US.
ALL RIGHT.
YOU WANNA GO UP IN THE UPSTAIRS? -YEAH, LET'S DO IT.
-LET'S DO SOME THAT.
NOW THAT WE KNOW THERE ARE MULTIPLE ENTITIES HERE, WE'LL HAVE TO CAST A WIDER NE TO FIND OUT WHICH SPIRITS WE'RE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON ON DOWNSTAIRS.
IT'S SAYING, "WE NEED TO TOUCH IT.
" THAT'S WEIRD! YEAH.
AND THAT MEANS IT'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
AND WHO'S "WE" AND WHY? YEAH.
STILL, I'M LEANING TOWARD IT BEING ERIC.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING CONCRETE, THOUGH.
I DON'T HAVE ANY -- TO ME, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH TO SAY, "THIS IS DEFINITELY ERIC.
" BUT WHO IS IT? ERIC COULD BE ONE OF THE SPIRITS.
BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE HERE, EITHER ATTACHED TO THE LAND OR THE HOUSE.
AND A LOT OF STUFF WE HAVE GOTTEN DOESN'T INDICATE A DEFINITE PERSON OR AN IDENTITY.
AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO DIG DEEP INTO THE BASEMENT.
I MEAN, SANDY'S DAUGHTER AND HER GRANDDAUGHTER BOTH LIVED DOWN THERE AND HAD EXPERIENCES.
WE SHOULD TALK TO THEM, SEE IF THEY CAN DESCRIBE WHAT THIS APPARITION LOOKS LIKE THAT THEY'VE EACH SEEN.
AND COMPARE IT TO PHOTOGRAPHS, ASK THE FAMILY, SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHO I IS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
YEAH.
TODAY I'M GOING TO MEET UP WITH SANDY'S DAUGHTER AND GRANDDAUGHTER TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT FIGURE IN THE CLOSET.
ALL RIGHT.
SO YOU'RE ARIANA? IS THAT RIGHT? DO YOU GO BY ARI OR ARIANA? YOU CAN CALL ME WHATEVER.
OH, OKAY.
NOW, THIS -- WAS THIS YOUR ROOM? -YEAH.
-YEAH? AND WHEN YOU WERE IN THIS ROOM, DID YOU SEE SOMEBODY IN YOUR CLOSET? WELL, UM I SAW, LIKE, A MAN STANDING RIGHT HERE IN MY ROOM.
REALLY? AND WHAT WAS HE DOING? HE WAS JUST LOOKING AT ME LIKE IN A STRANGE AND EVIL WAY.
SO HE WASN'T BEING SILLY OR ANYTHING? NO? HE WAS JUS STANDING STILL LIKE THAT? SO WHAT WOULD YOU DO? HOW'D YOU MAKE HIM GO AWAY? I TURNED AROUND, I GOT UP, AND THEN I SHUT THE DOOR.
AND THEN I WEN BACK TO BED.
BUT THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, IT WAS OPEN AGAIN.
OKAY.
AND HOW MANY TIMES DID THAT HAPPEN? I SAW HIM LIKE FIVE TIMES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
HOW LONG AGO WAS THIS THAT THIS HAPPENED? THE FIRST TIME SHE TOLD ME IT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO.
OKAY.
SO SHE WOULD'VE BEEN 4, ABOUT THAT TIME? YES.
WERE YOU SCARED? A LOT.
YEAH? YOU REMEMBER WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE? YEAH.
HE WAS, LIKE, HAVING -- HAD, LIKE, A WORK SHIRT ON AND A TIE.
AND HE HAD A HAT.
HE HAD, LIKE, BOOTS ON.
AND THEY, LIKE, HAD, LIKE, BUTTONS ON IT.
OKAY.
THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PARANORMAL AND IMAGINATION WHEN IT COMES TO KIDS.
AND IT'S TOUGH TO GAUGE IT SOMETIMES.
ARIANA DESCRIBED THE FIGURE IN HER CLOSE WITH SUCH DETAIL THAT I'M CALLING IN A SKETCH ARTIS TO SEE IF WE CAN GE SOME CONCRETE EVIDENCE AS TO WHO THIS FIGURE IS.
I REMEMBER THA HIS HAIR WAS BROWN.
HE WAS TALL.
LONG PANTS ON.
WHILE I'M DOING THAT, ADAM'S GOING TO SIT DOWN WITH LINDA TO SEE WHAT MORE HE CAN UNCOVER ABOUT ERIC.
IS THIS, UM, IS THIS ERIC? THAT'S ERIC, YEAH.
AND HOW OLD WAS HE IN THIS PICTURE? IN THAT PICTURE, HE WAS, UM, LET ME SEE, 19, 20.
OKAY.
AND THEN HE PASSED AT, UM HE WAS 33.
HE WAS VERY PROTECTIVE.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY HE WAS KILLED, WAS BECAUSE MY OTHER BROTHER WAS USING A CROWBAR TO BREAK OPEN THE DOOR.
AND, UM, THEN HE WAS GONNA GO CALL THE POLICE.
AND HE HAD THE CORD ON THE DOOR.
AND THEN HE USED EVERYTHING YOU COULD IMAGINE TO KILL HIM.
YEAH.
YEAH, YEAH.
YEAH.
[ SIGHS .]
MY GOD.
I NEVER GOT TO SAY GOODBYE.
I NEVER GOT TO KISS HIM GOODBYE.
JUST WALKED OUT THE DOOR, SAID, "I'LL SEE YOU IN A LITTLE BIT.
" AND THAT WAS IT.
YEAH.
I HAVE THAT EMPTINESS WONDERING.
WHAT EXACTLY WAS ERIC'S MENTAL ILLNESS? HE WAS BORN CHILDLIKE.
SO AT 33, HE HAD A MIND OF A 10-YEAR-OLD.
HE HAD CEREBRAL PALSY.
OKAY.
HE HAD A HARD TIME SPELLING, LEARNING.
AND HE COULD ONLY COUN WITH THE DOLLAR BILLS.
HE COULDN'T DO, LIKE, FIVES, TENS, TWENTIES? NO, NO.
ONLY DOLLAR BILLS.
OH, HE USED TO ALSO LINE HIS CARS UP IN A STRAIGHT ROW.
LITTLE MATCHBOX CARS, STRAIGHT IN A ROW, VERY NEAT.
EVERYTHING WAS SO NEAT.
HE WAS A VERY NEAT PERSON.
OKAY, SO HE LIKED MATCHBOX CARS.
YEAH.
DO YOU THINK HE'S THE ONE THAT'S CAUSING MOS OF THE ACTIVITY? DO YOU BELIEVE THAT? SOMETIMES I THINK IT'S HIM.
BUT THEN NOT ALWAYS.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT IT'S HIM.
I MEAN, MY DAUGHTER HAD THE HOUSE BLESSED.
BUT I FELT LIKE THERE WAS SOME EVIL LEFT BEHIND.
Berry: IF WE COULD LINK ALL THE ACTIVITY TO ERIC, IT WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE RELIEF FOR LINDA.
BUT WE KNOW THERE'S NO JUST ONE ENTITY HERE.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO IDENTIFY BOTH SPIRITS.
AND HOPEFULLY, AMY HAS SOME LEADS.
WELL, I HAVE SKETCHES.
THIS IS WHAT ARIANA SAW IN HER CLOSET IN HER ROOM.
ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? WELL, I HAVE SKETCHES.
THIS IS WHAT ARIANA SAW IN HER CLOSET IN HER ROOM.
ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? THAT IS NOT ERIC.
-REALLY? -YEAH.
THIS IS HIM WHEN HE WAS IN SCHOOL.
THIS DOESN'T FI THE DESCRIPTION OF ERIC BY ANY STRETCH.
NO.
THE GLASSES, THE HAIR, THE NOSE.
YEAH.
SHE SAID HE'S VERY TALL AND SKINNY.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THIS IS.
THERE IS ONE DETAIL SHE TOLD ME, THOUGH, THAT I FOUND REALLY INTERESTING.
WHAT? SHE SAID THE BOOTS HE WORE HAD BUTTONS ON THE SIDE.
YEAH, AND SHE SAID DISTINCTLY, LIKE, ON THE SIDE.
SO I DID SOME RESEARCH INTO, LIKE, FOOTWEAR.
ONLY THING I CAN FIND THAT MATCHES ARE BOOTS THAT MEN IN, LIKE, THE EARLY 1900s.
THERE WERE SOME BOOTS THAT THEY WOULD'VE WORN THAT LOOKED LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, AND THAT'S NO SOMETHING SHE WOULD'VE KNOWN, BEING 7.
SO I'M GONNA LOOK INTO I A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT THAT MIGHT GIVE US A CLUE AS TO WHO MIGHT BE HERE.
Bruni: TODAY I'M HEADED TO TOWN ARCHIVES TO SEE WHAT I CAN UNCOVER ABOUT OUR MYSTERIOUS FIGURE IN THE BASEMENT CLOSET.
SINCE MOST SPIRITS WE ENCOUNTER ARE VICTIMS OF A TRAGIC FATE, AND OUR SUSPECT APPEARS TO HAVE LIVED IN THE EARLY 20th CENTURY, I'M GOING TO USE THAT INFORMATION TO SEE IF I CAN IDENTIFY WHO HE WAS.
I FOUND SOMETHING.
MM-HMM? IN 1908, THERE WAS SOMETHING CALLED THE GREAT FIRE OF CHELSEA.
AND IT WAS HUGE.
I MEAN, I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE 85 PEOPLE PRESUMED DEAD.
GOD! REALLY BIG.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, LIKE, ON A MAP, WHERE THAT HAPPENED IN RELATIONSHIP TO HERE.
LIKE, THIS IS THE BURNT AREA.
IT'S LIKE A FIVE-MINUTE DRIVE FROM HERE.
BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE NO NAMES OR PICTURES OF ANY OF THE VICTIMS.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON THAT'S ON THAT SKETCH FITS THAT TIME PERIOD OF THE FIRE OF CHELSEA.
Berry: LOGICALLY, ONE WOULD THINK THAT ERIC WOULD BE THE PERSON IN THE BASEMENT.
BUT IN THE PAST, WE'VE ENCOUNTERED HAUNTINGS WHERE NEARBY TRAGEDIES, LIKE THE CHELSEA FIRE, HAVE LED TO TRAPPED SPIRITS.
Bruni: WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S MORE THAN ONE ENTITY IN THE HOUSE.
AND NOTHING THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SAYS TO ME CONCRETELY THAT IT'S ERIC.
OUR GOAL TONIGH IS TO FIND SOLID EVIDENCE OF WHO EITHER ENTITY IS.
ALL RIGHT.
I ASSUME WE'RE STARTING BACK HERE? OKAY.
HE LOVED TO PLAY WITH HIS MATCHBOX CARS.
AND HE WOULD PUT THEM IN LINE.
AND HE ONLY COULD COUNT IN DOLLARS.
SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL SET THE CARS UP BUT LEAVE ONE ASKEW.
AND THEN I'LL PUT THE DOLLARS UP AND DO KINDA THE SAME THING, LEAVE A COUPLE UP.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY, THAT'LL COAX HIM INTO PLAYING AROUND WITH THEM, TRY TO SET 'EM RIGHT.
ERIC, THESE ARE SOME -- WE GOT YOU SOME CARS TO PLAY WITH.
THESE ARE JUS FOR YOU, OKAY? YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH THEM.
I ALSO BROUGHT YOU SOME DOLLARS 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU LIKE TO COUNT DOLLARS.
I KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE SCARED RIGHT NOW.
MAYBE YOU'RE HIDING.
BUT THERE'S NOBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO DO YOU HARM.
OKAY? WAS THERE EVER A FIRE NEAR HERE? DID YOU GET HUR IN A FIRE? THE YELLOW CAR THERE IS A LITTLE OUT OF PLACE.
IT'S NOT IN LINE.
DO YOU WANNA FIX I FOR US? DID YOU HEAR THAT UPSTAIRS? IT WAS DEFINITELY A LIKE A FOOTSTEP GOING ON RIGHT HERE? WE HAVE TO GO CHECK THAT OUT.
SO THE FOOTSTEPS WERE COMING FROM DOWN AT THAT END.
SURE.
LET ME JUST GO TAKE A PEEK.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.
I MEAN, NOBODY'S -- NOBODY'S DOWN HERE MOVING.
NO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
LET'S GO CHECK OUT THE RECORDER AND SEE IF WE GOT ANY EVPs WHILE WE WERE UP HERE.
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S LISTEN TO THIS.
[ DEVICE BEEPS .]
COME ON, PLEASE.
LET'S BE CLEAR.
NO ONE WAS IN HERE.
NO! YOU HEAR THAT, RIGHT? OH, YOU'RE KIDDING ME! OH, MY GOD! OH, MY GOD! Berry: OKAY.
Bruni: ALL RIGHT.
LET'S LISTEN TO THIS.
[ DEVICE BEEPS .]
YOU HEARD THAT, RIGHT? OH, YOU'RE KIDDING ME.
OH, MY GOD! LOOK AT THE HAIRS ON MY ARMS.
OH, MY GOD.
DON'T LOSE THE SPACE.
"AH.
" LIKE, IT'S MAKING -- JUST MAKING SOUNDS.
"PA-DAH, PA-DAH.
" WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT IF IT'S, LIKE -- WHAT IF HE -- IF THAT'S THE WAY HE TALKS? -LIKE, JUST PLAYING? -YEAH.
IT SOUNDS PLAYFUL, KIND OF.
YEAH.
OKAY.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHATEVER WAS THERE WAS NOT EVEN, LIKE, TALKING TO US.
IT WAS JUST DOING ITS OWN THING.
LIKE IT WAS PLAYING WITH THE CARS.
LIKE IT WAS PLAYING WITH THE CARS.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THINK.
-LIKE, "RAH!" -YEAH.
"HAH!" YEAH.
WHATEVER'S HERE KNOWS WHEN WE LEAVE THE ROOM.
AND, IN FACT, I THINK IT PREFERS WHEN WE'RE NOT AROUND BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT STARTS DOING STUFF.
WHAT IF WE JUST LEAVE I FOR A LITTLE BIT? YEAH.
JUST GO, AND LET HIM PLAY WITH THE CARS.
YEAH.
ERIC, YOU WANNA PLAY WITH THOSE CARS? THEY'RE YOURS.
GO AHEAD AND PLAY WITH 'EM, OKAY? LEAVE THE RECORDER DOWN IN THAT CLOSE AND SEE IF WE GE ANYTHING TOO.
YEAH.
I THINK MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE THE KEY, IS LEAVING THE RECORDER DOWN THERE.
THIS IS AMY AND ADAM.
I AM PLACING THIS RECORDER IN THE CLOSET IN ERIC'S ROOM.
OOH! ADAM? Berry: I'M SORRY.
DID SOMETHING JUST TOUCH YOU? YES! HERE? YES! I DON'T SEE LIKE, THERE'S NO COBWEBS.
NO.
I THOUGH IT WAS GONNA BE, LIKE, A BUG OR SOMETHING.
HEY.
WERE YOU TOUCHING AMY? IT'S OKAY IF YOU WERE.
IT'S FINE.
WE WERE GETTING EXCITED.
DON'T WORRY.
ALL RIGHT, I SHOULDN' HAVE SAID IT'S OKAY TO -- ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I MEAN, I DON'T LOVE IT, BUT IF YOU WERE TRYING TO GE MY ATTENTION, THAT IS OKAY.
ALL RIGHT? THAT IS WHAT -- YOU ARE ALLOWED.
WAS THAT YOU, ERIC? ARE YOU THE PERSON THAT STANDS IN THE CLOSET? DO YOU NEED SOMETHING FROM US? IS THAT WHY YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OUR ATTENTION? ALL RIGHT, LET'S LISTEN.
I'M LIKE -- I KNOW.
YOU'RE FREAKING OUT.
YOU KNOW, IF HE'S MISCHIEVOUS, MAYBE IT GOES, "BOOP!" AND RUNS OFF.
AND, LIKE, RUNS AWAY.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING IT'S DOING IS VERY MISCHIEVOUS.
AND IT'S EXACTLY WHA THE FAMILY DESCRIBED.
MM-HMM.
IT'S, LIKE, TURNING THINGS OFF AND MAKING NOISES IN THE OTHER ROOM AND MAKING NOISES UPSTAIRS AND, YOU KNOW, TOUCHING ME AND RUNNING OFF.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT INTERACTING.
IT'S PLAYING.
IT'S, LIKE, THIS VERY PLAYFUL AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S, LIKE, MALICIOUSLY -- LIKE BAD-INTENTION MALICIOUS.
I JUST WISH IT WOULD GIVE US AN INDICATION OF WHO IT IS.
LET'S LEAVE THE RECORDER HERE OVERNIGHT AND SEE IF WE CAN GE ANY MORE EVIDENCE.
IT'S POSSIBLE THA THE THE MISCHIEVOUS ACTIVITY COULD BE ERIC.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONCLUSIVE YET, SO WE HAVE TO KEEP GOING THROUGH THE EVIDENCE.
ALL RIGHT.
SO I WAS ABLE TO REVIEW THE RECORDER FROM THE CLOSET, AND THERE'S NOTHING.
I MEAN, I CAN HEAR US.
AND I CAN HEAR A FEW SPOTS WHERE IT SOUNDS LIKE FOOTSTEPS FROM UPSTAIRS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, NOT ANYTHING ON THAT RECORDER.
WELL, I FOUND SOMETHING AMAZING.
SO I WAS REVIEWING THE FULL-SPECTRUM FOOTAGE WHEN WE FOCUSED ON THE DOLLARS AND THE CARS.
WE SET UP THE CARS FOR ERIC AND SET UP THE DOLLARS FOR ERIC.
AND WE LEFT THE ROOM.
AND THE RECORDER WAS SITTING THERE.
AND, UM, JUST -- YOU HAVE TO WATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO ONE OF THE DOLLARS.
OH.
YOU HAVE TO WATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO ONE OF THE DOLLARS.
Bruni: SO BIZARRE.
-DO IT AGAIN.
-IT'S GOING.
WHAT'S REALLY COOL IS IF YOU WATCH YOURSELF PUT THE DOLLARS DOWN, YOU PUT DOLLAR ONE DOWN, YOU PUT DOLLAR TWO DOWN, AND THEN DOLLAR THREE HITS DOLLAR TWO, OH, AND JUST GOES BACK UP.
YEAH, YOU'D THINK THAT WOULD MAKE IT GO DOWN.
NOPE, STAYING UP.
SO WEIRD! DO YOU HAVE A DOLLAR IN YOUR POCKET? I'M GONNA GET A DOLLAR.
ALL RIGHT.
SO HERE IS -- THIS IS VERY MUCH LIKE -- BUT THAT'S WHA IT SHOULD'VE DONE, RIGHT? BUT INSTEAD, IT WENT, BLOOP! I LITERALLY CAN'T EVEN MAKE IT DO THAT.
IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY WENT LIKE THIS.
WEIRD.
THAT MAKES IT WEIRDER, NOW THAT I'M SEEING.
YOU THINK IT'S ERIC? WE DON'T KNOW DEFINITELY WHO IT IS.
-RIGHT.
-WE DON'T.
WE DO KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS HERE WHO'S MISCHIEVOUS AND LIKES TO PLAY PRANKS.
OOH! ADAM? I HEARD FOOTSTEPS.
I MEAN, LIKE, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER CASES THAT WE GOT, WHERE IT WAS, LIKE, "YES.
THIS IS IT.
" YEAH, AND POTENTIALLY MORE THAN ONE BECAUSE WE DID GET THA EVP THAT SAID, "WE NEED TO TOUCH IT.
" I SAW A MAN STANDING RIGHT HERE IN MY ROOM.
BEYOND ARIANA SEEING THAT MAN IN THE CLOSET, THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER ACTIVITY THAT IS LINKED TO HIM.
SO HE'S CLEARLY NOT AGGRESSIVE OR EVEN PARTICULARLY ACTIVE.
NOTHING HERE THA SHE SHOULD BE AFRAID OF.
NOPE.
IT'S TOTALLY SAFE.
I THINK THE FIRST THING WE WANNA START WITH IS AN EVP THAT WE ACTUALLY GOT.
-AND YOU HEAR THIS.
-SO CRAZY.
THIS IS WHA MAKES US THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE MORE THAN ONE THING HERE.
"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" BUT HE SAYS, "WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" THAT LEADS US TO BELIEVE THERE'S MORE THAN ONE OF THEM.
MM-HMM.
WONDERING WHO THE HECK THEY ARE.
WE THINK IT'S SOMEONE ATTACHED TO THE LAND.
I FEEL LIKE I COULD BE ALMOST ANYONE.
I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT, LIKE, THE CHELSEA FIRE IN 1908.
THAT WAS, LIKE, A MILE AWAY.
AND THERE WERE 85 PEOPLE PRESUMED DEAD.
YOU KNOW, THE PERSON THAT'S ON THAT SKETCH THAT ARIANA HELPED US WITH MATCHES THE TIME PERIOD OF THE FIRE THAT HAPPENED NEARBY IN 1908.
SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THA HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.
BUT BECAUSE IT WAS SO LONG AGO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RECORDS TO CONFIRM FOR SURE.
WE'VE GOTTEN NO EVIDENCE OF AGGRESSION SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE.
ARIANA HAS ONLY SEEN HIM ONCE.
AND HE'S NEVER BEEN AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS YOU IN THE PAST.
WE DON'T THINK HE'S HARMFUL IN ANY WAY.
OKAY.
BUT THERE'S MORE THAN ONE ENTITY IN THE HOUSE.
BECAUSE YOU HAD TOLD ADAM THAT ERIC ENJOYED, -LIKE, MATCHBOX CARS -YEAH.
AND THINGS, WE SET UP A ROW OF MATCHBOX CARS.
AND WE HAD THE RECORDER RIGHT NEXT TO THEM.
AND THEN WE GOT THIS EVP.
OKAY.
WHAT WE NEED YOUR HELP WITH HERE, IS WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE IF THIS IS ERIC.
DO YOU HEAR THAT KIND OF -- -"KAPOW!" -YEAH.
OH, MY GOODNESS.
THAT'S WHAT ERIC WOULD DO.
REALLY? Berry: ARE YOU SERIOUS? HE WOULD DO THAT? HE WOULD LINE HIS CARS UP.
AND JUST LIKE THE LITTLE KIDS, YOU KNOW, YOU GET THE OTHER CAR, GO FAST.
-BOOM, LIKE THAT.
-OH, MY GOD.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT ERIC WOULD DO.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT DOLLAR BILLS.
AND YOU SAID THAT HE COUNTED MONEY IN ONES.
-RIGHT.
-IF YOU WATCH HERE -OH, MY GOD.
-OH, MY GOD.
JUST THAT ONE DOLLAR BILL.
SAYS, "IT'S OKAY.
THAT'S ENOUGH.
" AND IT STAYS DOWN.
Berry: MM-HMM.
IT DOESN'T MOVE.
LET'S SEE I ONE MORE TIME.
OH, MY GOODNESS.
LIKE HE JUST WENT -- YEAH, PUSHED IT DOWN.
YEAH.
THAT'S DEFINITELY ERIC.
DEFINITELY ERIC.
YEAH.
AND KNOWING AFTER WHAT HE WENT THROUGH, THAT HE STILL HAS THAT IN HIM AND THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT THAT.
GOOD.
DO YOU FEEL GOOD ENOUGH ABOUT I TO MAYBE TO GO DOWN THERE AND TALK TO HIM A LITTLE BIT? I HAVE TO GO IN MY ROOM FOR A MINUTE.
OKAY.
YEAH.
-IS SHE OKAY? -SHE'LL BE ALL RIGHT.
-OKAY.
-SHE'LL BE OKAY.
UM, I'M JUST REALLY GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET ANSWERS.
-OH, I AM, TOO.
-AND VERIFY.
AND VERIFY.
I THINK THAT'S WHA SHE NEEDED.
BECAUSE WE JUST DIDN' WANT HER TO BE AFRAID IN HER OWN HOUSE ANYMORE.
YOU ALL RIGHT? Linda: I'M JUST TRYING TO COLLECT MY EMOTIONS, THAT'S ALL.
I KNOW.
I COULD TRY.
YOU OKAY? SO MANY MEMORIES.
THINK OF ALL THE GOOD ONES.
I GOTTA THINK OF THE GOOD ONES.
ALL THE GOOD ONES.
I GOTTA THINK OF THE BETTER MEMORIES THERE WAS.
ERIC, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE ME STRENGTH TO CONTINUE, TO BE HERE AGAIN IN OUR OWN HOME WITH YOU.
WE'RE NOT GONNA LET ANYBODY TAKE IT AWAY FROM US.
I LOVE YOU, AND I MISS YOU.
I MISS OUR TIMES TOGETHER.
I MISS EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU.
I WISH YOU NEVER HAD TO GO THROUGH WHAT YOU HAD TO DO.
WASN'T FAIR.
I WISH I WAS HERE TO PROTECT YOU.
BUT I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BE HERE TO PROTECT ME NOW.
ERIC, I LOVE YOU.
LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
REALLY DO.
Bruni: I CAN'T HELP BUT GE EMOTIONAL ON CASES LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE CAME IN TO FIND A BROKEN WOMAN.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE HER SOME PEACE.
YOU DID IT.
YES, I DID IT.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
YOU'RE SO WELCOME.
I DON'T THINK I COULD'VE DONE IT ALONE.
OOH! ADAM? I'M SORRY.
DID SOMETHING JUST TOUCH YOU? YES! Sandy: MY UNCLE WAS MURDERED IN HERE.
I SAW A MAN STANDING RIGHT HERE IN MY ROOM.
IS THERE ANYBODY DOWN THERE? Linda: MY DAUGHTER HAD THE HOUSE BLESSED.
BUT I FELT LIKE THERE WAS SOME EVIL LEFT BEHIND.
OH, MY GOD! -- Captions by VITAC -- I'M AMY BRUNI.
AND I'M ADAM BERRY.
WE'VE SPEN A COMBINED 30 YEARS INVESTIGATING THE WORLD'S MOST TERRIFYING HAUNTINGS.
AFTER THOUSANDS OF CASES, WE ARE READY FOR OUR MOST IMPORTANT JOURNEY YET.
[ BOTH GASP .]
RESCUING FAMILIES TERRORIZED BY PARANORMAL ACTIVITY IN THEIR OWN HOMES.
WE UNCOVER THE TRUTH BEHIND THE HAUNTING TO HELP FAMILIES RECLAIM THEIR HOMES THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND THEIR LIVES.
CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS Sandy: Good evening.
A message on behalf of my mother, Linda.
She lives in Chelsea, Massachusetts.
And her house is most definitely haunted.
She's the victim of shadow figures.
She'll never go down in the basement.
She's lived there for more than 35 years.
And it's the house where she raised her five kids.
My Uncle Eric was actually murdered in the house, in one of the apartments downstairs.
We don't know if it's him or something else in the house.
Please, come check out the house.
THAT'S A LOT.
I KNOW.
IT'S A LOT.
AND THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING.
THIS CASE, ALMOST MORE THAN ANY OTHER CASE WE'VE DONE, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A LOT RIDING ON IT.
WOW.
THE BROTHER'S MURDERED IN THE BASEMENT? YEAH, THE BROTHER.
WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN? THE MURDER IN THE BASEMEN TOOK PLACE IN, I BELIEVE, 1995.
HER BROTHER ERIC, WHO WAS MENTALLY HANDICAPPED, HAD THE BRAIN CAPACITY OF LIKE A 10- OR 12-YEAR-OLD, WAS MURDERED BY HIS OWN BROTHER.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
IT WAS AWFUL.
DO WE KNOW WHY? I DON'T KNOW YET.
BUT THEY EXPERIENCED ACTIVITY EVEN BEFORE THEN.
THAT IS CRAZY.
SHE WANTS TO KNOW WHO IT IS.
SHE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.
IF IT'S HER FAMILY, SHE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE OKAY.
IF IT IS THE BROTHER WHO WAS MURDERED, THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE CONTACT WITH HIM AND FIND OU IF MEANS EVERYONE WELL.
SHE'S LIKE, "YOU GUYS ARE KINDA MY ONLY HOPE AT THIS POINT.
" Bruni: THIS IS GONNA BE A TOUGH CASE.
WE'RE DEALING WITH A HOME THAT'S HAD PARANORMAL ACTIVITY FOR MORE THAN 35 YEARS, SOME OF WHICH MAY BE LINKED TO A TRAGIC MURDER.
SO THE EMOTIONAL TIES RUN DEEP.
BUT WE'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO DETERMINE WHAT SPIRIT OR SPIRITS ARE SCARING THE FAMILY AND HOPEFULLY HELP THEM OVERCOME THEIR FEARS.
YOUR HOUSE IS GORGEOUS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS MY DAUGHTER SANDY.
Berry: HI.
[ CHUCKLES .]
SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE? UM, SINCE '74.
OH, MY GOODNESS.
SO A WHILE.
I KNOW YOU GUYS CONTACTED US.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT GOING ON HERE.
A LOT OF STRANGE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED AFTER WE HAD SOME DEATHS IN THE FAMILY, EVEN PRIOR TO THAT.
EVEN PRIOR.
YEAH, WHEN WE FIRST -- WHEN I FIRS BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
SO ACTIVITY HAPPENED BEFORE YOUR BROTHER PASSED.
IT WAS CONSTANTLY THINGS HAPPENING.
IT'S GETTING TO A POINT NOW IT'S AN EVERYDAY OCCURRENCE.
SOMETHING HAPPENED THIS WEEK, TOO.
MY HUSBAND WOULD SEE SHADOWS WALKING FROM ONE BEDROOM TO ANOTHER.
THEY'RE VERY -- VERY FRIGHTENING.
IT SEEMS LIKE THIS HOUSE, THEY PLAY TRICKS.
IT'S, LIKE, WHOEVER THIS IS, IT'S, LIKE, WANTS YOU TO GET, LIKE, A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW? I STILL GET CHILLS TODAY THINKING ABOUT IT.
ABOUT 3 OR 4 WEEKS AGO, I WAS SLEEPING.
SOMETHING WOKE ME UP, LIKE, SOMETHING THAT WASN'T NORMAL.
MY HUSBAND CAME INTO THE BEDROOM AND SAW SOMEONE TALL STAND OVER ME AND TOUCH MY FACE.
SO THAT'S WHEN I REALLY GOT SCARED.
WHO DO YOU THINK THAT MIGHT BE? I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE MAYBE IT'S MY UNCLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
THIS WAS A DIFFERENT PRESENCE, A PRESENCE THAT KIND OF SCARED ME.
BUT WHATEVER IT WAS, IT SCARED ME ENOUGH FOR ME TO LOOK FOR ROSARY BEADS.
I NEED TO KNOW WHY THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW FOR MY OWN PIECE OF MIND AND FOR MY CHILDREN.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW.
I'M THINKING MAYBE WE COULD HEAD DOWNSTAIRS.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, SANDY WILL TAKE YOU DOWN.
YOU DON'T GO DOWNSTAIRS AT ALL? NO.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S HEARTBREAKING THAT THERE'S A PAR OF YOUR HOUSE THAT YOU CAN' EVEN USE AT ALL AND YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE GOING DOWN THERE.
AND IT'S, LIKE, I MEAN, THIS IS YOUR HOME.
THIS IS YOUR HOME.
WHEN I'M AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS, I JUST GET THIS STRANGE ALMOST LIKE ANXIETY ATTACK.
YEAH.
YEAH, IT'S KINDA LIKE A SHAKY FEELING, GOOSE BUMPS.
LIKE, SHORTNESS OF BREATH.
MM-HMM.
DO YOU THINK THERE'S SOMETHING DOWN IN THE BASEMENT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMEBODY THERE.
JUST DOESN' FEEL COMFORTABLE.
NOT AT ALL.
SEEING YOUR MOM'S REACTION TO THAT, HOW DOES THA MAKE YOU FEEL? AFTER MY UNCLE WAS KILLED, I BEGGED HER TO SELL THE HOUSE AND MOVE.
BUT SHE JUST HAD SUCH A CONNECTION HERE.
AND SHE JUST FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY PUSH ME OUT OF MY HOME.
RIGHT, RIGHT.
AND TO SEE HER NO WANNA COME DOWN HERE, IT IS SAD.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED DOWN HERE? ONE NIGHT, I WAS SLEEPING ON THIS COUCH.
AND SOMETHING WOKE ME UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
AND I LOOKED OVER IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND I SAW SOMEBODY STANDING THERE, LOOKED LIKE AN OUTLINE.
AND I ORIGINALLY HAD THOUGHT, "OH, MY GOD.
SOMEONE BROKE IN, AND I CAUGHT THEM.
SOMEONE'S IN THE HOUSE," BECAUSE IT WAS THAT CLEAR.
SO I DOVE OVER THE COUCH.
AND I HIT THE LIGHT SWITCH HERE.
AND LIGHTS CAME ON, AND NOBODY WAS THERE.
OH, MY GOODNESS.
YEAH, SO THAT WAS A LITTLE WEIRD.
SO THIS IS THE FAMILY ROOM.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER APARTMENT THIS WAY? -CORRECT.
-OKAY.
A LITTLE BACK STORY ON THIS APARTMENT, MY UNCLE LIVED HERE.
MY UNCLE WAS BORN WITH CEREBRAL PALSY AND EPILEPSY.
AND HE ALSO LOST OXYGEN AT BIRTH.
SO HE WAS DEVELOPMENTALLY BEHIND.
HE WAS 33.
BUT HE ALMOST WAS, LIKE, THE AGE OF A 12-YEAR-OLD.
HIS NAME WAS ERIC.
AND HE WAS MURDERED IN HERE.
ACTUALLY RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE DOOR WAS WHERE HIS BODY WAS LEFT.
-OH.
-OH.
WHAT HAPPENED? THERE WAS A DISAGREEMEN WITH HIS BROTHER, MY OTHER UNCLE, WHO HAD DRUG ISSUES.
HE WAS BREAKING INTO MY MOTHER'S HOUSE, AND THERE WAS A FIGHT, AND HE KILLED HIM.
HOW DO YOU DO THA TO SOMEONE? IT WAS AWFUL.
IT WAS TERRIBLE.
IT WAS BRUTAL.
WE HAD TO HAVE CLOSED CASKET.
-IT WAS -- -REALLY? SO I TAKE IT THEN, YOUR OTHER UNCLE HE'S IN PRISON.
IN PRISON FOREVER, RIGHT? OOH.
SO SINCE THEN, I GUESS, WHAT ACTIVITY HAS HAPPENED? MY DAUGHTER LIVED DOWN HERE WITH HER DAUGHTER, ARIANA, MY GRANDDAUGHTER.
AND THERE WERE ALWAYS THINGS HAPPENING.
LIKE, SHE WOULD ALWAYS STAND AT THE EDGE OF HER CRIB, FACING THIS WAY AND LOOK RIGHT AT THE CLOSET.
AND SHE SAW A SHADOW.
-HMM.
-WEIRD.
SHE CLEARLY REMEMBERS IT TO THIS DAY.
THAT'S WHEN I STARTED TO WORRY A LITTLE.
AND THEY ENDED UP MOVING BACK HOME WITH ME, SO -YEAH.
-RIGHT.
IS THAT WHY THEY MOVED BACK? YEAH, SHE WAS JUST -- IT WAS KINDA LIKE, ENOUGH.
AND SHE WAS JUS LIKE, BOOM, HOME.
-WE HAVE A LOT TO LOOK OVER.
-WE HAVE A LOT.
-WE HAVE SO MUCH.
-WE HAVE A LOT TO LOOK OVER.
I HOPE YOU GUYS FIND SOME ANSWERS, ESPECIALLY FOR MY MOTHER.
I JUST WANT HER TO BE COMFORTABLE AGAIN.
Berry: THIS CASE CARRIES MORE EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE THAN MOST.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO FIND ANSWERS FOR LINDA.
THESE CAMERAS ARE JUST ONE TOOL FOR MAKING CONTAC WITH THE SPIRITS AND FIGURING OU WHO IS ACTUALLY HERE.
THIS WHOLE, LIKE, SCENARIO PUTS ME ON EDGE.
IT'S PRETTY HEAVY.
THE LITTLES THINGS MAKE ME UNEASY.
I MEAN, WE'VE INVESTIGATED SOME PRETTY AWFUL PLACES WHERE TERRIBLE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED.
YES, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYWHERE THAT WE INVESTIGATED HAS THERE BEEN SUCH A CLOSE CONNECTION -TO WHAT HAPPENED? -TO WHAT HAPPENED.
RIGHT.
-HER BROTHER -YEAH.
AND THERE'S THE SPOT.
-THAT'S A LOT.
-IT IS A LOT.
I'M GONNA GO PLUG THIS IN HERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFEREN THINGS HAPPENING IN THIS HOUSE -- MANIPULATION OF OBJECTS, SHADOW FIGURES, LINDA'S BROTHER ERIC, WHO WAS VIOLENTLY ATTACKED AND MURDERED IN THE BASEMENT.
AND SO I THINK, LOGICALLY, IT COULD BE HIM.
BUT I'M NOT SURE.
I JUST NEED -- ADAM? Berry: I HEARD FOOTSTEPS.
YOU DID? OVER HERE? I HEARD LIKE TWO FOOTSTEPS, LIKE, BOOM, BOOM.
IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE COMING FROM THE UPSTAIRS HALLWAY.
SOMETHING IS TRYING TO REACH OUT TO US ALREADY.
AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEGUN TO INVESTIGATE.
WE SHOULD FINISH SETTING UP QUICKLY.
IF THERE'S SOMEBODY HERE, THEY ARE GOING TO STAR INTERACTING WITH US NOW.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA WAIT.
SO WE'RE GONNA STAR WITH THE LIVING ROOM, FACING DOWN THE HALLWAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY SAW THE SHADOW FIGURES AND WHERE I HEARD THE FOOTSTEPS.
SO WHAT CAN WE I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR SHADOW FIGURES, WE'LL PU THE REM PODS DOWN.
AND SOMETHING WALKS THROUGH, IT WOULD GO OFF.
Bruni: WE USE REM PODS TO POSSIBLY DETEC THE PRESENCE OF SPIRITS.
LET'S PUT IT RIGH IN FRONT OF THE DOOR WHERE THEY SEE THE SHADOWS.
THEY PICK UP ON ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS, OR EMF.
PARANORMAL RESEARCHERS BELIEVE THAT SUDDEN UNEXPLAINABLE CHANGES IN EMF COULD BE THE SIGN OF GHOSTS.
ARE YOU READY? YEAH, I'M READY.
WHEREVER YOU ARE IN THE HOUSE, CAN YOU MAKE A NOISE SO WE KNOW YOU'RE HERE? IF YOU WALK BY THOSE THINGS ON THE GROUND, THEY MIGHT GO OFF.
CAN YOU WALK TOWARD US, PLEASE? IS THERE ANYBODY DOWN THERE? ARE YOU ERIC? HUH? [ DEVICE BEEPING .]
IF YOU WALK BY THOSE THINGS ON THE GROUND, THEY MIGHT GO OFF.
WHAT WAS THAT? HUH? [ DEVICE BEEPING .]
IS THAT YOU? IS THAT YOU TRYING TO GET OUR ATTENTION? CAN YOU MAKE A NOISE SO WE KNOW YOU'RE HERE? DID YOU HEAR THAT? A KNOCK.
IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS EITHER IN THE KITCHEN OR THE BACK BEDROOM.
I THINK IT WAS COMING FROM, LIKE, HERE.
WASN'T IT? YEAH, MAYBE A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN TO THE LEFT.
THIS SIDE? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
DO IT AGAIN.
CAN YOU MAKE A NOISE SO WE KNOW YOU'RE HERE? SO QUIET! LITTLE TINY KNOCK.
I DON'T -- YEAH.
IF THERE WERE MORE MAYBE THEN IT WOULD'VE BEEN SOMETHING.
Berry: WE GOT ONE EMF SPIKE AND ONE KNOCK SINCE WE'VE BEEN UPSTAIRS.
AND ALTHOUGH THEY'RE BOTH PROMISING SIGNS, EACH WAS SO BRIEF THAT I'M NOT SURE WHATEVER'S HERE IS WILLING TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.
DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING HERE.
BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE OUR APPROACH AND HEAD DOWNSTAIRS.
THE DOWNSTAIRS IS THE HOT SPO FOR ACTIVITIES.
THEY'VE SEEN SHADOW FIGURES.
AND IT'S WHERE ERIC WAS TRAGICALLY MURDERED.
WE NEED TO REALLY FIGURE OU IF ERIC IS ACTUALLY THE SPIRI HAUNTING THIS BASEMENT.
SO THAT'S THE PLACE WE WANNA TACKLE.
OKAY.
HEY, ERIC.
IF YOU'RE HERE, MY NAME IS ADAM.
HI.
I'M AMY.
YOUR FAMILY INVITED US HERE TO TRY TO TALK TO YOU.
I KNOW YOU MIGHT BE A LITTLE SCARED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE MAYBE NO ONE'S REALLY TALKED TO YOU LIKE THIS.
BUT IT'S HARD FOR US TO SEE YOU.
IT'S HARD FOR US TO HEAR YOU.
BUT WE HAVE THIS DEVICE HERE IN HER HAND THAT IF YOU TALK LOUD ENOUGH INTO IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU, AND THEY'RE NO GONNA HURT YOU.
SO, ERIC, ARE YOU HERE? I KEEP SEEING THINGS OUT OF THE CORNER OF MY EYES.
WHAT? I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST KEEP SEEING WEIRD MOVEMENT OU OF THE CORNER OF MY EYES.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO LISTEN TO THIS, OKAY? WE'LL SEE IF WE'RE HEARING YA.
[ DEVICE BEEPS .]
QUIET.
WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE OUR APPROACH.
I THINK I'LL PUT THIS IN HIS ROOM JUST BECAUSE THEN IT'S FURTHER AWAY FROM US AND WAY LESS THREATENING THAN HAVING US, LIKE, MAKE HIM APPROACH US.
I'M GONNA FILM I WITH A FULL-SPECTRUM CAMERA.
AND MAYBE IT'LL PICK UP SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING.
ALL RIGHT, ERIC.
SO NOW YOU'RE IN THERE IN YOUR SAFE PLACE.
SO CAN YOU LET US KNOW YOU'RE THERE? CAN YOU KNOCK FOR ME LIKE THIS? [ KNOCKS .]
[ CLICKING .]
IS THAT NOISE COMING FROM THE BEDROOM? THAT SOUND IS THE FULL-SPECTRUM TRYING TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING? IF THAT'S YOU WALKING IN FRONT OF OUR CAMERA TO TAKE YOUR PICTURE, DON'T BE AFRAID.
YOU CAN STAND THERE ALL YOU WANT.
WHY WOULD I BE FOCUSING? I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT'S IT TRYING TO FOCUS ON? NO, LET IT KEEP GOING.
BUT, LIKE, I REALLY WANNA SEE WHAT IT'S FOCUSING ON.
ERIC, IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE HERE WITH YOU OR ARE YOU ALL ALONE? WANNA GO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CAMERA? YEAH.
THAT'S WEIRD.
LET ME JUS SEE WHY THIS YEAH, WHAT I WAS FOCUSING ON.
YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS VIDEO.
SO EITHER THE CAMERA IS PICKING UP ON SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T SEE, OR SOMETHING IS TOUCHING THE CAMERA.
AND WE GOT NOTHING ON THE RECORDER EITHER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET HIM TO TRUST US.
YEAH.
ALL RIGHT.
I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO SHIFT FOCUS.
WHAT IF WE WAN TO THE TABLE IN THERE AND JUST KIND OF GAVE HIM SPACE? YEAH.
IT WAS SO QUIET.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S HIM.
I DON'T KNOW THA HE'S READY TO TALK TO US.
YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE HE MIGHT HAVE SOME TRUST ISSUES AT THIS POINT.
I'M THINKING THAT THIS IS A CASE THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE THE FAMILY COME IN.
DO YOU THINK WE COULD GET LINDA? I DON'T THINK SHE WOULD COME DOWN HERE.
I THINK WE COULD GET SANDY DOWN HERE.
I MEAN, I WOULD -- YEAH, I AGREE.
I'M ALSO -- I'M GONNA CALL MY FRIEND TOMORROW BECAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER IDEA ON HOW TO GET ERIC TO TALK TO US.
Bruni: I'VE CALLED IN MY FRIEND CHRISTINE, WHO IS ANOTHER PARANORMAL INVESTIGATOR.
SHE DESIGNED THIS HOLOGRAM DIVORCE THAT CAN PRODUCE 3-D IMAGES.
WE'RE HOPING THAT IT WILL KIND OF BE A TRIGGER OBJECT, KIND OF ENTICE ENTITIES OU AND HAVE THEM COME INTERACT WITH US, WHETHER IT'S ERIC OR SOMEONE ELSE.
IT'S MADE USING A REGULAR FLAT-SCREEN TV AND SOME PLEXIGLAS.
AND AROUND I IS A PROXIMITY SENSOR, SO IF ANYTHING GOES TOWARD THE HOLOGRAM, IT WILL SET OFF THE ALARM.
WE'RE ALSO BRING SANDY INTO THE INVESTIGATION.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OVER.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
COME ON IN.
Bruni: SHE'S SOMEONE WHO ERIC WILL BE FAMILIAR WITH AND WHO HE WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE TALKING TO.
THIS IS THE HOLOGRAM.
AND IT FLIPS THROUGH.
AND SO IT FEELS LIKE YOU CAN, LIKE, REACH IN AND TOUCH IT, YOU KNOW? OKAY, SO I THINK THAT THE BES THING FOR YOU TO DO IS TO BASICALLY JUST KIND OF TALK TO ERIC.
OKAY.
LET HIM KNOW WHO WE ARE AND THAT WE'RE SAFE.
UM, ERIC, IT'S ME, SANDY.
THESE ARE MY FRIENDS AMY AND ADAM.
THEY'RE VERY NICE.
HI.
AND THEY'RE HERE TO HELP YOU TALK TO US.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY TO ME, MOM, THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL HELP US DO THAT.
SO IT'S TOTALLY OKAY TO TALK TO THEM.
ERIC, ARE YOU HERE WITH US? DO YOU LIKE THE HOLOGRAM RIGHT HERE? IT'S A DINOSAUR.
THAT'S PRETTY COOL, RIGHT? YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT YOUR HAND IN HERE LIKE THIS.
WHOA.
I'M GRABBING THE DINOSAUR.
SO IF YOU'RE HERE, CAN YOU LET US KNOW SOMEHOW? JUST TOUCH THE HOLOGRAM OR SAY SOMETHING.
WAS THAT YOU THAT USED TO PLAY WITH ARIANA, WHEN SHE WAS DOWN HERE IN YOUR ROOM? DO YOU WANNA LISTEN TO THIS? YEAH, LET'S LISTEN TO IT.
WAIT.
WHAT IS THAT? IS THA WHAT WAS THAT WAS? YEAH, LISTEN.
[ GASPS .]
OH, MY -- CLEAR AS DAY.
"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" -"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" -"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" -"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" -"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" IT'S LIKE THERE'S MORE THAN ONE.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S KEEP TALKING, OKAY? SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING TO US.
YOU SAID, "WE NEED TO TOUCH IT.
" SO HOW MANY OF YOU ARE HERE? CAN YOU KNOCK ON SOMETHING? LET'S LISTEN.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING TO US.
QUIET.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, WHOEVER THIS IS HAS STOPPED COMMUNICATING WITH US.
ALL RIGHT.
YOU WANNA GO UP IN THE UPSTAIRS? -YEAH, LET'S DO IT.
-LET'S DO SOME THAT.
NOW THAT WE KNOW THERE ARE MULTIPLE ENTITIES HERE, WE'LL HAVE TO CAST A WIDER NE TO FIND OUT WHICH SPIRITS WE'RE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON ON DOWNSTAIRS.
IT'S SAYING, "WE NEED TO TOUCH IT.
" THAT'S WEIRD! YEAH.
AND THAT MEANS IT'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
AND WHO'S "WE" AND WHY? YEAH.
STILL, I'M LEANING TOWARD IT BEING ERIC.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING CONCRETE, THOUGH.
I DON'T HAVE ANY -- TO ME, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH TO SAY, "THIS IS DEFINITELY ERIC.
" BUT WHO IS IT? ERIC COULD BE ONE OF THE SPIRITS.
BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE HERE, EITHER ATTACHED TO THE LAND OR THE HOUSE.
AND A LOT OF STUFF WE HAVE GOTTEN DOESN'T INDICATE A DEFINITE PERSON OR AN IDENTITY.
AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO DIG DEEP INTO THE BASEMENT.
I MEAN, SANDY'S DAUGHTER AND HER GRANDDAUGHTER BOTH LIVED DOWN THERE AND HAD EXPERIENCES.
WE SHOULD TALK TO THEM, SEE IF THEY CAN DESCRIBE WHAT THIS APPARITION LOOKS LIKE THAT THEY'VE EACH SEEN.
AND COMPARE IT TO PHOTOGRAPHS, ASK THE FAMILY, SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHO I IS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
YEAH.
TODAY I'M GOING TO MEET UP WITH SANDY'S DAUGHTER AND GRANDDAUGHTER TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT FIGURE IN THE CLOSET.
ALL RIGHT.
SO YOU'RE ARIANA? IS THAT RIGHT? DO YOU GO BY ARI OR ARIANA? YOU CAN CALL ME WHATEVER.
OH, OKAY.
NOW, THIS -- WAS THIS YOUR ROOM? -YEAH.
-YEAH? AND WHEN YOU WERE IN THIS ROOM, DID YOU SEE SOMEBODY IN YOUR CLOSET? WELL, UM I SAW, LIKE, A MAN STANDING RIGHT HERE IN MY ROOM.
REALLY? AND WHAT WAS HE DOING? HE WAS JUST LOOKING AT ME LIKE IN A STRANGE AND EVIL WAY.
SO HE WASN'T BEING SILLY OR ANYTHING? NO? HE WAS JUS STANDING STILL LIKE THAT? SO WHAT WOULD YOU DO? HOW'D YOU MAKE HIM GO AWAY? I TURNED AROUND, I GOT UP, AND THEN I SHUT THE DOOR.
AND THEN I WEN BACK TO BED.
BUT THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, IT WAS OPEN AGAIN.
OKAY.
AND HOW MANY TIMES DID THAT HAPPEN? I SAW HIM LIKE FIVE TIMES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
HOW LONG AGO WAS THIS THAT THIS HAPPENED? THE FIRST TIME SHE TOLD ME IT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO.
OKAY.
SO SHE WOULD'VE BEEN 4, ABOUT THAT TIME? YES.
WERE YOU SCARED? A LOT.
YEAH? YOU REMEMBER WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE? YEAH.
HE WAS, LIKE, HAVING -- HAD, LIKE, A WORK SHIRT ON AND A TIE.
AND HE HAD A HAT.
HE HAD, LIKE, BOOTS ON.
AND THEY, LIKE, HAD, LIKE, BUTTONS ON IT.
OKAY.
THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PARANORMAL AND IMAGINATION WHEN IT COMES TO KIDS.
AND IT'S TOUGH TO GAUGE IT SOMETIMES.
ARIANA DESCRIBED THE FIGURE IN HER CLOSE WITH SUCH DETAIL THAT I'M CALLING IN A SKETCH ARTIS TO SEE IF WE CAN GE SOME CONCRETE EVIDENCE AS TO WHO THIS FIGURE IS.
I REMEMBER THA HIS HAIR WAS BROWN.
HE WAS TALL.
LONG PANTS ON.
WHILE I'M DOING THAT, ADAM'S GOING TO SIT DOWN WITH LINDA TO SEE WHAT MORE HE CAN UNCOVER ABOUT ERIC.
IS THIS, UM, IS THIS ERIC? THAT'S ERIC, YEAH.
AND HOW OLD WAS HE IN THIS PICTURE? IN THAT PICTURE, HE WAS, UM, LET ME SEE, 19, 20.
OKAY.
AND THEN HE PASSED AT, UM HE WAS 33.
HE WAS VERY PROTECTIVE.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY HE WAS KILLED, WAS BECAUSE MY OTHER BROTHER WAS USING A CROWBAR TO BREAK OPEN THE DOOR.
AND, UM, THEN HE WAS GONNA GO CALL THE POLICE.
AND HE HAD THE CORD ON THE DOOR.
AND THEN HE USED EVERYTHING YOU COULD IMAGINE TO KILL HIM.
YEAH.
YEAH, YEAH.
YEAH.
[ SIGHS .]
MY GOD.
I NEVER GOT TO SAY GOODBYE.
I NEVER GOT TO KISS HIM GOODBYE.
JUST WALKED OUT THE DOOR, SAID, "I'LL SEE YOU IN A LITTLE BIT.
" AND THAT WAS IT.
YEAH.
I HAVE THAT EMPTINESS WONDERING.
WHAT EXACTLY WAS ERIC'S MENTAL ILLNESS? HE WAS BORN CHILDLIKE.
SO AT 33, HE HAD A MIND OF A 10-YEAR-OLD.
HE HAD CEREBRAL PALSY.
OKAY.
HE HAD A HARD TIME SPELLING, LEARNING.
AND HE COULD ONLY COUN WITH THE DOLLAR BILLS.
HE COULDN'T DO, LIKE, FIVES, TENS, TWENTIES? NO, NO.
ONLY DOLLAR BILLS.
OH, HE USED TO ALSO LINE HIS CARS UP IN A STRAIGHT ROW.
LITTLE MATCHBOX CARS, STRAIGHT IN A ROW, VERY NEAT.
EVERYTHING WAS SO NEAT.
HE WAS A VERY NEAT PERSON.
OKAY, SO HE LIKED MATCHBOX CARS.
YEAH.
DO YOU THINK HE'S THE ONE THAT'S CAUSING MOS OF THE ACTIVITY? DO YOU BELIEVE THAT? SOMETIMES I THINK IT'S HIM.
BUT THEN NOT ALWAYS.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT IT'S HIM.
I MEAN, MY DAUGHTER HAD THE HOUSE BLESSED.
BUT I FELT LIKE THERE WAS SOME EVIL LEFT BEHIND.
Berry: IF WE COULD LINK ALL THE ACTIVITY TO ERIC, IT WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE RELIEF FOR LINDA.
BUT WE KNOW THERE'S NO JUST ONE ENTITY HERE.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO IDENTIFY BOTH SPIRITS.
AND HOPEFULLY, AMY HAS SOME LEADS.
WELL, I HAVE SKETCHES.
THIS IS WHAT ARIANA SAW IN HER CLOSET IN HER ROOM.
ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? WELL, I HAVE SKETCHES.
THIS IS WHAT ARIANA SAW IN HER CLOSET IN HER ROOM.
ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? THAT IS NOT ERIC.
-REALLY? -YEAH.
THIS IS HIM WHEN HE WAS IN SCHOOL.
THIS DOESN'T FI THE DESCRIPTION OF ERIC BY ANY STRETCH.
NO.
THE GLASSES, THE HAIR, THE NOSE.
YEAH.
SHE SAID HE'S VERY TALL AND SKINNY.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THIS IS.
THERE IS ONE DETAIL SHE TOLD ME, THOUGH, THAT I FOUND REALLY INTERESTING.
WHAT? SHE SAID THE BOOTS HE WORE HAD BUTTONS ON THE SIDE.
YEAH, AND SHE SAID DISTINCTLY, LIKE, ON THE SIDE.
SO I DID SOME RESEARCH INTO, LIKE, FOOTWEAR.
ONLY THING I CAN FIND THAT MATCHES ARE BOOTS THAT MEN IN, LIKE, THE EARLY 1900s.
THERE WERE SOME BOOTS THAT THEY WOULD'VE WORN THAT LOOKED LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, AND THAT'S NO SOMETHING SHE WOULD'VE KNOWN, BEING 7.
SO I'M GONNA LOOK INTO I A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT THAT MIGHT GIVE US A CLUE AS TO WHO MIGHT BE HERE.
Bruni: TODAY I'M HEADED TO TOWN ARCHIVES TO SEE WHAT I CAN UNCOVER ABOUT OUR MYSTERIOUS FIGURE IN THE BASEMENT CLOSET.
SINCE MOST SPIRITS WE ENCOUNTER ARE VICTIMS OF A TRAGIC FATE, AND OUR SUSPECT APPEARS TO HAVE LIVED IN THE EARLY 20th CENTURY, I'M GOING TO USE THAT INFORMATION TO SEE IF I CAN IDENTIFY WHO HE WAS.
I FOUND SOMETHING.
MM-HMM? IN 1908, THERE WAS SOMETHING CALLED THE GREAT FIRE OF CHELSEA.
AND IT WAS HUGE.
I MEAN, I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE 85 PEOPLE PRESUMED DEAD.
GOD! REALLY BIG.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, LIKE, ON A MAP, WHERE THAT HAPPENED IN RELATIONSHIP TO HERE.
LIKE, THIS IS THE BURNT AREA.
IT'S LIKE A FIVE-MINUTE DRIVE FROM HERE.
BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE NO NAMES OR PICTURES OF ANY OF THE VICTIMS.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON THAT'S ON THAT SKETCH FITS THAT TIME PERIOD OF THE FIRE OF CHELSEA.
Berry: LOGICALLY, ONE WOULD THINK THAT ERIC WOULD BE THE PERSON IN THE BASEMENT.
BUT IN THE PAST, WE'VE ENCOUNTERED HAUNTINGS WHERE NEARBY TRAGEDIES, LIKE THE CHELSEA FIRE, HAVE LED TO TRAPPED SPIRITS.
Bruni: WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S MORE THAN ONE ENTITY IN THE HOUSE.
AND NOTHING THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SAYS TO ME CONCRETELY THAT IT'S ERIC.
OUR GOAL TONIGH IS TO FIND SOLID EVIDENCE OF WHO EITHER ENTITY IS.
ALL RIGHT.
I ASSUME WE'RE STARTING BACK HERE? OKAY.
HE LOVED TO PLAY WITH HIS MATCHBOX CARS.
AND HE WOULD PUT THEM IN LINE.
AND HE ONLY COULD COUNT IN DOLLARS.
SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL SET THE CARS UP BUT LEAVE ONE ASKEW.
AND THEN I'LL PUT THE DOLLARS UP AND DO KINDA THE SAME THING, LEAVE A COUPLE UP.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY, THAT'LL COAX HIM INTO PLAYING AROUND WITH THEM, TRY TO SET 'EM RIGHT.
ERIC, THESE ARE SOME -- WE GOT YOU SOME CARS TO PLAY WITH.
THESE ARE JUS FOR YOU, OKAY? YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH THEM.
I ALSO BROUGHT YOU SOME DOLLARS 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU LIKE TO COUNT DOLLARS.
I KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE SCARED RIGHT NOW.
MAYBE YOU'RE HIDING.
BUT THERE'S NOBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO DO YOU HARM.
OKAY? WAS THERE EVER A FIRE NEAR HERE? DID YOU GET HUR IN A FIRE? THE YELLOW CAR THERE IS A LITTLE OUT OF PLACE.
IT'S NOT IN LINE.
DO YOU WANNA FIX I FOR US? DID YOU HEAR THAT UPSTAIRS? IT WAS DEFINITELY A LIKE A FOOTSTEP GOING ON RIGHT HERE? WE HAVE TO GO CHECK THAT OUT.
SO THE FOOTSTEPS WERE COMING FROM DOWN AT THAT END.
SURE.
LET ME JUST GO TAKE A PEEK.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.
I MEAN, NOBODY'S -- NOBODY'S DOWN HERE MOVING.
NO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
LET'S GO CHECK OUT THE RECORDER AND SEE IF WE GOT ANY EVPs WHILE WE WERE UP HERE.
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S LISTEN TO THIS.
[ DEVICE BEEPS .]
COME ON, PLEASE.
LET'S BE CLEAR.
NO ONE WAS IN HERE.
NO! YOU HEAR THAT, RIGHT? OH, YOU'RE KIDDING ME! OH, MY GOD! OH, MY GOD! Berry: OKAY.
Bruni: ALL RIGHT.
LET'S LISTEN TO THIS.
[ DEVICE BEEPS .]
YOU HEARD THAT, RIGHT? OH, YOU'RE KIDDING ME.
OH, MY GOD! LOOK AT THE HAIRS ON MY ARMS.
OH, MY GOD.
DON'T LOSE THE SPACE.
"AH.
" LIKE, IT'S MAKING -- JUST MAKING SOUNDS.
"PA-DAH, PA-DAH.
" WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT IF IT'S, LIKE -- WHAT IF HE -- IF THAT'S THE WAY HE TALKS? -LIKE, JUST PLAYING? -YEAH.
IT SOUNDS PLAYFUL, KIND OF.
YEAH.
OKAY.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHATEVER WAS THERE WAS NOT EVEN, LIKE, TALKING TO US.
IT WAS JUST DOING ITS OWN THING.
LIKE IT WAS PLAYING WITH THE CARS.
LIKE IT WAS PLAYING WITH THE CARS.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THINK.
-LIKE, "RAH!" -YEAH.
"HAH!" YEAH.
WHATEVER'S HERE KNOWS WHEN WE LEAVE THE ROOM.
AND, IN FACT, I THINK IT PREFERS WHEN WE'RE NOT AROUND BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT STARTS DOING STUFF.
WHAT IF WE JUST LEAVE I FOR A LITTLE BIT? YEAH.
JUST GO, AND LET HIM PLAY WITH THE CARS.
YEAH.
ERIC, YOU WANNA PLAY WITH THOSE CARS? THEY'RE YOURS.
GO AHEAD AND PLAY WITH 'EM, OKAY? LEAVE THE RECORDER DOWN IN THAT CLOSE AND SEE IF WE GE ANYTHING TOO.
YEAH.
I THINK MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE THE KEY, IS LEAVING THE RECORDER DOWN THERE.
THIS IS AMY AND ADAM.
I AM PLACING THIS RECORDER IN THE CLOSET IN ERIC'S ROOM.
OOH! ADAM? Berry: I'M SORRY.
DID SOMETHING JUST TOUCH YOU? YES! HERE? YES! I DON'T SEE LIKE, THERE'S NO COBWEBS.
NO.
I THOUGH IT WAS GONNA BE, LIKE, A BUG OR SOMETHING.
HEY.
WERE YOU TOUCHING AMY? IT'S OKAY IF YOU WERE.
IT'S FINE.
WE WERE GETTING EXCITED.
DON'T WORRY.
ALL RIGHT, I SHOULDN' HAVE SAID IT'S OKAY TO -- ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I MEAN, I DON'T LOVE IT, BUT IF YOU WERE TRYING TO GE MY ATTENTION, THAT IS OKAY.
ALL RIGHT? THAT IS WHAT -- YOU ARE ALLOWED.
WAS THAT YOU, ERIC? ARE YOU THE PERSON THAT STANDS IN THE CLOSET? DO YOU NEED SOMETHING FROM US? IS THAT WHY YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OUR ATTENTION? ALL RIGHT, LET'S LISTEN.
I'M LIKE -- I KNOW.
YOU'RE FREAKING OUT.
YOU KNOW, IF HE'S MISCHIEVOUS, MAYBE IT GOES, "BOOP!" AND RUNS OFF.
AND, LIKE, RUNS AWAY.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING IT'S DOING IS VERY MISCHIEVOUS.
AND IT'S EXACTLY WHA THE FAMILY DESCRIBED.
MM-HMM.
IT'S, LIKE, TURNING THINGS OFF AND MAKING NOISES IN THE OTHER ROOM AND MAKING NOISES UPSTAIRS AND, YOU KNOW, TOUCHING ME AND RUNNING OFF.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT INTERACTING.
IT'S PLAYING.
IT'S, LIKE, THIS VERY PLAYFUL AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S, LIKE, MALICIOUSLY -- LIKE BAD-INTENTION MALICIOUS.
I JUST WISH IT WOULD GIVE US AN INDICATION OF WHO IT IS.
LET'S LEAVE THE RECORDER HERE OVERNIGHT AND SEE IF WE CAN GE ANY MORE EVIDENCE.
IT'S POSSIBLE THA THE THE MISCHIEVOUS ACTIVITY COULD BE ERIC.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONCLUSIVE YET, SO WE HAVE TO KEEP GOING THROUGH THE EVIDENCE.
ALL RIGHT.
SO I WAS ABLE TO REVIEW THE RECORDER FROM THE CLOSET, AND THERE'S NOTHING.
I MEAN, I CAN HEAR US.
AND I CAN HEAR A FEW SPOTS WHERE IT SOUNDS LIKE FOOTSTEPS FROM UPSTAIRS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, NOT ANYTHING ON THAT RECORDER.
WELL, I FOUND SOMETHING AMAZING.
SO I WAS REVIEWING THE FULL-SPECTRUM FOOTAGE WHEN WE FOCUSED ON THE DOLLARS AND THE CARS.
WE SET UP THE CARS FOR ERIC AND SET UP THE DOLLARS FOR ERIC.
AND WE LEFT THE ROOM.
AND THE RECORDER WAS SITTING THERE.
AND, UM, JUST -- YOU HAVE TO WATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO ONE OF THE DOLLARS.
OH.
YOU HAVE TO WATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO ONE OF THE DOLLARS.
Bruni: SO BIZARRE.
-DO IT AGAIN.
-IT'S GOING.
WHAT'S REALLY COOL IS IF YOU WATCH YOURSELF PUT THE DOLLARS DOWN, YOU PUT DOLLAR ONE DOWN, YOU PUT DOLLAR TWO DOWN, AND THEN DOLLAR THREE HITS DOLLAR TWO, OH, AND JUST GOES BACK UP.
YEAH, YOU'D THINK THAT WOULD MAKE IT GO DOWN.
NOPE, STAYING UP.
SO WEIRD! DO YOU HAVE A DOLLAR IN YOUR POCKET? I'M GONNA GET A DOLLAR.
ALL RIGHT.
SO HERE IS -- THIS IS VERY MUCH LIKE -- BUT THAT'S WHA IT SHOULD'VE DONE, RIGHT? BUT INSTEAD, IT WENT, BLOOP! I LITERALLY CAN'T EVEN MAKE IT DO THAT.
IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY WENT LIKE THIS.
WEIRD.
THAT MAKES IT WEIRDER, NOW THAT I'M SEEING.
YOU THINK IT'S ERIC? WE DON'T KNOW DEFINITELY WHO IT IS.
-RIGHT.
-WE DON'T.
WE DO KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS HERE WHO'S MISCHIEVOUS AND LIKES TO PLAY PRANKS.
OOH! ADAM? I HEARD FOOTSTEPS.
I MEAN, LIKE, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER CASES THAT WE GOT, WHERE IT WAS, LIKE, "YES.
THIS IS IT.
" YEAH, AND POTENTIALLY MORE THAN ONE BECAUSE WE DID GET THA EVP THAT SAID, "WE NEED TO TOUCH IT.
" I SAW A MAN STANDING RIGHT HERE IN MY ROOM.
BEYOND ARIANA SEEING THAT MAN IN THE CLOSET, THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER ACTIVITY THAT IS LINKED TO HIM.
SO HE'S CLEARLY NOT AGGRESSIVE OR EVEN PARTICULARLY ACTIVE.
NOTHING HERE THA SHE SHOULD BE AFRAID OF.
NOPE.
IT'S TOTALLY SAFE.
I THINK THE FIRST THING WE WANNA START WITH IS AN EVP THAT WE ACTUALLY GOT.
-AND YOU HEAR THIS.
-SO CRAZY.
THIS IS WHA MAKES US THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE MORE THAN ONE THING HERE.
"WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" BUT HE SAYS, "WE HAVE TO TOUCH IT.
" THAT LEADS US TO BELIEVE THERE'S MORE THAN ONE OF THEM.
MM-HMM.
WONDERING WHO THE HECK THEY ARE.
WE THINK IT'S SOMEONE ATTACHED TO THE LAND.
I FEEL LIKE I COULD BE ALMOST ANYONE.
I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT, LIKE, THE CHELSEA FIRE IN 1908.
THAT WAS, LIKE, A MILE AWAY.
AND THERE WERE 85 PEOPLE PRESUMED DEAD.
YOU KNOW, THE PERSON THAT'S ON THAT SKETCH THAT ARIANA HELPED US WITH MATCHES THE TIME PERIOD OF THE FIRE THAT HAPPENED NEARBY IN 1908.
SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THA HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.
BUT BECAUSE IT WAS SO LONG AGO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RECORDS TO CONFIRM FOR SURE.
WE'VE GOTTEN NO EVIDENCE OF AGGRESSION SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE.
ARIANA HAS ONLY SEEN HIM ONCE.
AND HE'S NEVER BEEN AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS YOU IN THE PAST.
WE DON'T THINK HE'S HARMFUL IN ANY WAY.
OKAY.
BUT THERE'S MORE THAN ONE ENTITY IN THE HOUSE.
BECAUSE YOU HAD TOLD ADAM THAT ERIC ENJOYED, -LIKE, MATCHBOX CARS -YEAH.
AND THINGS, WE SET UP A ROW OF MATCHBOX CARS.
AND WE HAD THE RECORDER RIGHT NEXT TO THEM.
AND THEN WE GOT THIS EVP.
OKAY.
WHAT WE NEED YOUR HELP WITH HERE, IS WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE IF THIS IS ERIC.
DO YOU HEAR THAT KIND OF -- -"KAPOW!" -YEAH.
OH, MY GOODNESS.
THAT'S WHAT ERIC WOULD DO.
REALLY? Berry: ARE YOU SERIOUS? HE WOULD DO THAT? HE WOULD LINE HIS CARS UP.
AND JUST LIKE THE LITTLE KIDS, YOU KNOW, YOU GET THE OTHER CAR, GO FAST.
-BOOM, LIKE THAT.
-OH, MY GOD.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT ERIC WOULD DO.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT DOLLAR BILLS.
AND YOU SAID THAT HE COUNTED MONEY IN ONES.
-RIGHT.
-IF YOU WATCH HERE -OH, MY GOD.
-OH, MY GOD.
JUST THAT ONE DOLLAR BILL.
SAYS, "IT'S OKAY.
THAT'S ENOUGH.
" AND IT STAYS DOWN.
Berry: MM-HMM.
IT DOESN'T MOVE.
LET'S SEE I ONE MORE TIME.
OH, MY GOODNESS.
LIKE HE JUST WENT -- YEAH, PUSHED IT DOWN.
YEAH.
THAT'S DEFINITELY ERIC.
DEFINITELY ERIC.
YEAH.
AND KNOWING AFTER WHAT HE WENT THROUGH, THAT HE STILL HAS THAT IN HIM AND THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT THAT.
GOOD.
DO YOU FEEL GOOD ENOUGH ABOUT I TO MAYBE TO GO DOWN THERE AND TALK TO HIM A LITTLE BIT? I HAVE TO GO IN MY ROOM FOR A MINUTE.
OKAY.
YEAH.
-IS SHE OKAY? -SHE'LL BE ALL RIGHT.
-OKAY.
-SHE'LL BE OKAY.
UM, I'M JUST REALLY GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET ANSWERS.
-OH, I AM, TOO.
-AND VERIFY.
AND VERIFY.
I THINK THAT'S WHA SHE NEEDED.
BECAUSE WE JUST DIDN' WANT HER TO BE AFRAID IN HER OWN HOUSE ANYMORE.
YOU ALL RIGHT? Linda: I'M JUST TRYING TO COLLECT MY EMOTIONS, THAT'S ALL.
I KNOW.
I COULD TRY.
YOU OKAY? SO MANY MEMORIES.
THINK OF ALL THE GOOD ONES.
I GOTTA THINK OF THE GOOD ONES.
ALL THE GOOD ONES.
I GOTTA THINK OF THE BETTER MEMORIES THERE WAS.
ERIC, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE ME STRENGTH TO CONTINUE, TO BE HERE AGAIN IN OUR OWN HOME WITH YOU.
WE'RE NOT GONNA LET ANYBODY TAKE IT AWAY FROM US.
I LOVE YOU, AND I MISS YOU.
I MISS OUR TIMES TOGETHER.
I MISS EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU.
I WISH YOU NEVER HAD TO GO THROUGH WHAT YOU HAD TO DO.
WASN'T FAIR.
I WISH I WAS HERE TO PROTECT YOU.
BUT I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BE HERE TO PROTECT ME NOW.
ERIC, I LOVE YOU.
LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
REALLY DO.
Bruni: I CAN'T HELP BUT GE EMOTIONAL ON CASES LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE CAME IN TO FIND A BROKEN WOMAN.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE HER SOME PEACE.
YOU DID IT.
YES, I DID IT.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
YOU'RE SO WELCOME.
I DON'T THINK I COULD'VE DONE IT ALONE.