King of Collectibles: The Goldin Touch (2023) s01e05 Episode Script

[tense music playing]
If we're talking about a value range
of 25 to 40 million,
I'd anticipate at least a 50% advance.
[Ken] Let's say I met you at 50%.
I am willing
to wire you today $10,000,000.
That's why I invited you to my house,
because I have a lot of faith in you,
and I think you can maximize the value.
And that's why I think Goldin Auctions
could do an advance of $15,000,000.
[laughing]
I will meet you halfway.
$12.5 million cash up-front today.
I was really expecting a higher number.
$15,000,000 advance, Jim? Really?
I don't think we've ever given more than
a $2,000,000 advance in this company.
I never should've told Jim I flew private
to bring back all of his stuff,
because he knew
I'd be under a lot of pressure
to get a deal today.
-Okay, deal.
-[Ken] Is that a deal? Thank you, Jim.
You will not regret this.
Let's make history.
[dramatic music playing]
[Dave] There it is.
[team] Wow!
[Ken] span style="style2"This week,
span style="style2"Carlo needs to brush up on his French…
[woman speaking French]
[Ken] span style="style2"…if he wants a Canadian family
span style="style2"to consign a life-changing F1 card.
[Carlo] Ooh!
This is the only one in the world.
[Ken] span style="style2"I head to Denver
span style="style2"to meet with my friend, Peyton Manning.
You, your dad, and Eli all have very nice,
legible signatures.
-span style="style1"I don't know. Eli's is a little…
span style="style1"-[Ken laughs]
Myesha gets her big break
with a valuable music item.
[man] This is a shirt
that Britney Spears wore.
-[gasps]
-Britney?
[Ken] span style="style2"And finally,
span style="style2"I challenge Iron Mike Tyson to a fight,
sort of,
with some rare boxing relics up for grabs.
Put up your dukes.
Work for that money
Get that money for the work… ♪
Grab the other end.
Successful day in Puerto Rico.
The historical artifacts
I'm getting to bring back to New Jersey
and sell on Goldin
have never been seen in decades.
[Laura] Gotcha!
This is what I came down here for.
I'm thrilled.
Cash in hand
I turn a penny into a grand ♪
When I'm ready, I'mma lay 'em
Rocking steady for my fam… ♪
-We did it.
-We did it. Congratulations.
-We're a good team.
-Excellent job.
We do well together.
It's almost like you're my dad.
[Ken] Exactly. You just gotta
learn about collectibles.
You teach me about collectibles.
I'll teach you how to be a people person.
[laughs]
[upbeat pop music playing]
-[Dave] There it is. Woo!
-[Ryan] Is this it?
-Ken.
-Howdy, how are we doing?
-[Alex] Wow. God.
-[Myesha] Okay.
-Welcome back.
-[Myesha] This is insane!
-Did I bring back enough?
-[Carlo] Wow.
How much stuff does this guy have?
It's insane.
He easily has over 20,000 total pieces.
Just a small portion in his house,
he had over $100,000,000 sitting there.
Over $100,000,000.
What would you do
if you had Taubenfeld money?
You'd never see me ever again.
The first thing I would do is get drivers…
[laughs]
…because I do hate driving.
I'd be somewhere in Italy,
countryside, drinking wine.
A house in Vegas, a house in Miami.
I'd be hanging out
with LeBron James every day.
Maybe I'll even buy myself some fake abs,
so I can stop doing sit-ups finally.
How do people have this much money?
What did they do,
and why am I not that rich?
[laughs] I don't know.
How did you convince him
to give it to you?
-I'm Ken effing Goldin. What can I say?
-[all laugh]
-Right?
-What happened in that house?
[Ken] So… [clears throat]
-This is Kobe Bryant--
-Kobe's, yeah.
-Game-used Olympic Team USA.
-[Carlo exhales]
[coworker] No way!
-[Alex] Cool.
-[Ken] See the red, white, and blue?
-[Myesha] That's so cool.
-[Ken] That's awesome.
This may be
one of the single most unique pieces.
This is a ticket stub
to Wilt's 100-point game.
The scorekeeper's ticket.
It's his personal ticket
to enter the game.
This is the actual scorekeeper's sheet.
It is a one-of-one.
Somebody found Wilt and he signed it.
And you have
the program to enter the stadium.
I do not know
what the value of this is gonna be,
but this is something really…
When you look at something like this,
this has Basketball Hall of Fame
all over it.
That's so cool.
-[Ken] I have to get to this. Okay.
-[team laughs]
[Ken] So Kobe Bryant.
What do Kobe Bryant
photo-matched jerseys go for these days?
-Fifty?
-About $150K.
-A hundred thousand? Okay.
-[Carlo, Ryan] Yeah.
What about…
a Kobe Bryant NBA Finals
photo-matched jersey?
-Is that a little better?
-Wow.
-Yeah.
-Could this be half a million?
-[Ryan] Yeah.
-Could it be more than half a million?
-What?
-I definitely think so.
I think it's the first one
to ever hit the public market.
-First one ever.
-[Carlo] It's incredible.
-Jeez.
-[Ken] Then, he also has non-sports.
This is a Michael Jackson
concert-used fedora.
-[Dave] Put it on.
-Please try it on.
-[sings] span style="style2"'Cause this is thriller… ♪
-[team laughs]
-Oh my goodness!
-Let's go!
-[singsong] span style="style2"My life is complete! ♪
-Oh God.
-I wanna see Ken do it. No offense.
-No. I… I can't dance.
-I don't know what way to put it on.
-[Dave] It's signed.
It's signed from the inside.
I won't put it on. He can do it. I won't.
-Um, I got too much hairspray.
-Small head.
The Taubenfeld Collection
is the most insane memorabilia collection
ever put together.
Ken has been after this deal
for over a decade,
and to see it in our warehouse right now,
it belongs in the Hall,
and it's sitting in front of us.
It's surreal.
Let's do it. Let's go.
We used to do this in a year, Ken.
This is one day.
Exactly, think about that.
[exciting music playing]
-[Myesha] I got this guy coming in.
-[Laura] Okay.
I cannot wait until he lets me know
how he got this stuff.
You can, like, chill here with me.
Carlo is a potential seller.
He says he has
some pop culture and entertainment stuff.
I'm looking forward to closing the deal
and proving to Dave I'm better than him.
[chuckles]
-I'm Myesha. Nice to meet you.
-Hi. Nice to meet you.
-This is Laura. Ken's daughter.
-Hi. Nice to meet you.
Oh my gosh. So nice to meet you.
I'm Carlo DeSantis. I'm 33 years old,
from Somerset, New Jersey,
and I'm so passionate about pop culture.
I have a tendency to drive around,
go to thrift stores, record stores,
see what I like, and buy it.
The thing I want to show you,
I'll preface it by saying this is crazy
and I'm aware it is.
[Laura laughs] Okay.
-[Carlo] But…
-Exciting.
My uncle worked for the Marriott
in Poland in 1996,
and Michael Jackson
stayed there on his HIStory tour.
[Myesha] Are those wash--?
-[Carlo] Michael Jackson's washcloths.
-Those are Michael Jackson's washcloths?
[Myesha] Is that his makeup?
That's his makeup.
There's an eyebrow on one.
[Carlo laughs]
We have these washcloths.
It's really weird.
But around here,
we've sold a bunch of weird stuff.
We sell hair all the time.
We have people's x-rays.
We've had people's dentures.
I do think it would do well in auction,
and I think Michael Jackson
always sells really well.
So, in terms of authentication,
it does come with a letter
from the head
of the housekeeping department.
-[Myesha] This is crazy.
-[Carlo laughs]
This is definitely
one of my most prized possessions ever.
-This is a shirt Britney Spears wore…
-[gasps]
[Carlo] …on span style="style2"The X Factor in 2012.
-Britney?
-[Carlo] It actually was a dress.
It was attached to a skirt,
and she cut it into a top,
and walked out with jeans,
and made it into a halter top.
[pop music playing]
[Alex] span style="style2"Britney Spears is admired
span style="style2"for her fearlessness, talent,
and ability
to authentically express herself.
It's why we love her.
In 2012, while on the set of span style="style1"The X Factor,
Britney restyled a chainmail,
silk-lined Sheri Bodell dress
by cutting it in half, and mended it
with fabric tape and hand-stitching.
The resulting halter top
is a one-of-a-kind,
show-stopping pop culture artifact.
Like, do you mind if I…
put it on for a sec?
[Carlo] Be my guest.
I mean, obviously,
just to see how it looks.
Now you're wearing
something Britney Spears wore.
-I didn't even register that.
-[all laugh]
-I think it could kind of work.
-[Carlo] That looks amazing.
-[Myesha] I like the fact she designed it.
-She gets a co-credit as a designer.
[laughs]
I love this because
it's quite literally a one-of-one.
You can't find this anywhere else.
[Carlo] Britney's my number one,
and I don't know
that I can see myself parting with this.
-Okay, I got you.
-[Carlo] So…
-I thought I was getting a new shirt.
-[all laugh]
I'm here at Goldin today
to test the waters,
and see what
some of the things I have might be worth.
Because I love pop culture so much,
they are really priceless to me.
But I am curious because I love money.
I'll have to bring it to our team.
I'm sure we'll have to do
further authentication,
but I would love
to start the authentication process,
and see if we can just go from there.
-Are you interested?
-Yeah. Absolutely.
Let's do this.
[hip-hop music playing]
Today, I'm hopping
back on a plane to Denver
to meet with an investor in Goldin.
I also got wind
of a Peyton Manning game-used jersey,
and a very rare Mickey Mantle card
that came into a local card shop.
I've been working on getting it
to sell it on Goldin for several years.
-Darren?
-Yes? Hey, Ken. Good to see you.
-Good to meet you.
-Thanks for coming so far out here.
Of course. For Mickey Mantle,
I'll fly across country.
[laughs] I get it.
[Ken] I can tell
the store's been around for a while.
It has. Since 1981.
We had a local collector sell this to us.
We're pretty excited about it.
[Ken] Wow,
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle rookie card.
Signed!
Look at the quality of the autograph.
It's so strong, you can read every letter.
I would love to get this
in the next Goldin Elite.
Okay, so how does that work,
and what can you do for us
to make sure we get the best price?
Well, the Goldin Elite obviously
is gonna be the best of the best,
all the high-priced stuff,
and for a card like this,
I'd personally do a video for it,
we'd promote it.
We'd send out millions of emails.
I would guarantee you
a top-ten lot position,
which means when people go to the website,
you're one of
the first ten lots they'd see.
For something like this,
I think we're looking at,
worst-case 225. Best-case 300,000.
-[Darren] Okay.
-It's worth more with the signature.
Okay, I'd be open to that.
That sounds really good.
We got one other thing.
-It's, uh…
-[Ken] Oh.
…some guy by the name of Manning,
a game-used jersey.
Peyton Manning Broncos, very nice.
What type of work
was done on the jersey to authenticate it?
It was photo-matched,
and they came up
with a September game against the Raiders
where he threw for roughly 370 yards.
So another day at the office.
[Ken laughs] Amazing.
I love game-used items like this,
and Peyton Manning is such a legend.
Do you mind if I ask my business associate
to come to the store and look at it?
And he loves items like this.
-That'd be fine.
-Great. Great. Let's do it.
Here you go. Thanks.
-Let's give him a buzz.
-[Darren] Okay.
[hip-hop music playing]
Morning, guys. Welcome. Welcome.
-Nice to see you in person. I'm Carlo.
-I'm Jean.
-[Carlo] It's a pleasure.
-Nicolas.
[Carlo] It's a pleasure. Thank you, guys.
To make sure we understand each other,
I brought in Beatrice.
She'll be our interpreter.
I've brought in a French-Canadian family.
16-year-old son
pulled a card out of one pack.
F1 Lewis Hamilton Superfractor.
I told the family I wanna fly them out.
I'm really excited for them.
This could change
the course of everything.
[Alex] span style="style2"In 2021, British racing driver
span style="style2"Lewis Hamilton
was officially knighted for his
lifetime accomplishments in racing.
At age 15, Hamilton became
the youngest-ever driver
to be ranked number one
in the sport of karting.
He holds the record for the most race wins
in Formula 1 history,
and is the first and only man
of Black heritage to have raced in F1.
This Lewis Hamilton rookie card
has Hamilton's autograph
and is the only one of its kind,
making it the most sought-after
Formula 1 trading card in history.
You wanna see the warehouse
where we have all these amazing items?
[translating in French]
-[agreeing in French]
-All right, guys. Follow me. Follow me.
It's an honor
to work with people like this.
Nicolas, he's a nurse,
he works with Alzheimer's patients.
He's a good guy.
This is someone
you want this to happen to.
I know I could help change their lives.
This is my favorite kind of deal.
I pulled out some F1 items already
to show you some cards that sold recently.
-Wow.
-Wow.
F1 is exploding.
It's so popular right now.
Your timing is great.
This is one of
Lewis Hamilton's first cards.
[Nicolas] Oh!
[Carlo] So this one right here,
this Leclerc,
we just sold for $264,000.
As good as these are,
they're not as good as your card.
-Let's see it.
-[Jean] Okay.
[Carlo] Ooh. Look at this.
This is incredible.
This is the only one in the world.
There's not another one of these printed.
You'll never find another one.
You pulled this out of a pack?
[in French] Yes,
I bought this pack of cards.
How much was the pack?
[in English] Um, around $50.
[laughs] $50! Look at this.
This is the best thing
you'll pull out of a pack in your life.
How much do you think this card is worth?
[in French] As far as assigning
an exact dollar amount,
we have no clue.
I called you guys here today,
not just because I wanna see the card,
but I have a substantial offer
from a private buyer.
[curious music playing]
$750,000.
-[gasps]
-[Carlo laughs]
[in French] Carlo told us we got an offer
of $750,000 from a private buyer.
When I heard that amount,
I almost fell backwards!
I never thought
a little piece of cardboard
could be worth that much.
It's real money?
-[Beatrice, in English] It's real money?
-That's a real offer.
I know it's crazy, it's a lot,
but it's a very real offer.
When a super rare card like this
hits the market
everyone comes out of the woodwork.
Everyone tells you
what they think it'll be worth,
what it should go for,
offers all over the place.
What's real? What's not?
It's hard to navigate
through all that nonsense
to find the real buyer.
We have to let this private buyer
know we're gonna bring it to auction
because he doesn't want that to happen.
He knows if it goes to auction,
other people are gonna see it,
they might bid against him,
price can go way up.
So we need to leverage that.
There are a lot of big buyers.
There are quite a few people
that could drive this over $1,000,000.
There is a big risk here.
If we tell him we'll bring it to auction,
he could also walk away.
So we gotta be very careful.
He doesn't want this to go to auction.
I got a feeling he's gonna come up.
[in French]
I am putting all my trust in you.
So we will go that way.
And we will eagerly await your call.
The next time you come in,
it will only be if there's a better offer.
I'm really excited they trusted me.
I know I will succeed as long as
I'm doing right by the consignor.
Our company's exploding.
I… I think I'm a valuable member.
I brought a lot of money
through this door.
That's something I'm proud of.
I'm helping grow the company. It's great.
-[in French] I'm your favorite son.
-[Nicolas and Beatrice laugh]
Now he is.
[rap music playing]
[Ken] This is actually pretty clean.
I'd love to get
the specs of that photo-match
because what Peyton used to do a lot
is switch jerseys at halftime.
Oh, didn't know that.
["Zadok The Priest, HUV 258"
by Choir of New College Oxford playing]
-Ken!
-[Ken] Hey, Peyton, how are you?
-Oh my God.
-Hey.
-Good to see you, bro.
-[Ken] How are you?
-Good to see you.
-How are you? Peyton.
-Good to see you. Doing all right?
-Yes.
[Ken] I've known Peyton Manning
for several years,
and he's actually
an investor in my company.
He's even interested
in collecting his own items.
He loves that they're worth
more than his brother Eli.
Feels like the real deal, Ken. It's, uh…
It's clean, which could be two things.
I mean, I was moving
pretty fast back in those days,
so maybe nobody caught me.
But it could be also, you know,
that I used to change jerseys at halftime.
I'm gonna bet,
based on the year and the jersey,
it's probably a first-half jersey.
I'd love to take this back with me.
-We can add it to the '52 Mantle card.
-That'd be good.
-Let's do it. Absolutely.
-[Ken] That'd be good?
The whole business of collectibles,
in some ways is about
getting closer to a celebrity.
So when you're dealing
with these high-net-worth individuals
and celebrities,
if you want their business,
you have to cater to them.
So you have to be
where they want you to be,
and when they want you to be there,
otherwise somebody else will get the deal.
-This is what I was telling you about.
-Let's take a peek.
I have no idea, but this is…
I was on the cover of span style="style2"Sports Illustrated
my junior year in college.
-Oh, look at that face.
-1996.
I figured it's a one-of-one.
It was mailed to my college apartment.
So you subscribed to span style="style2"Sports Illustrated
in 1996, there you go.
I was a longtime subscriber.
Apartment 232, Knoxville, Tennessee.
There's only one of those.
What do you think?
Five bucks? Ten bucks?
No, honestly these are
the types of goofy items
you put them up in auction,
they go for $1,000.
It could go for $15,000
because there might be somebody who goes,
"Wow! This is
Peyton Manning's personal copy
mailed to him at Tennessee,
and it's his first time ever."
When it came in the mail,
yeah, it was cool.
Obviously, I grew up watching my heroes
on the cover of span style="style2"Sports Illustrated,
so to be on it and share it with my dad
when he was on the cover was cool.
That's 1996.
-I've held on to it for a long time.
-[Ken] Great collectible.
What else is here? This looks cool.
I love this kind of stuff.
This store's been here for 40 years.
Let's see what else they got here.
[lounge music playing]
[Ken] Oh, here you are. Look up. [laughs]
Do autographs increase in value
with neater signatures?
The collectors really want to know
whose signature it is and,
you know, all three of you.
I mean, you, your dad,
and Eli all have nice, legible--
-I don't know. Eli's is a little…
-[Ken laughs]
…I will be calling him about that.
-You could take a picture and show him.
-[Peyton] Failed English.
That is a, uh, '98 SP authentic,
and it is limited to 2,000.
That's probably
a $10,000 to $15,000 card now.
-[Peyton] Really?
-[Ken] Yeah. That's a good one.
Ken, I have some of my rookie cards,
but I've never been able
to get my hands on a massive collection.
You've got a few people
hoarding your cards.
They want to hold on to them
until they hit a certain price.
Why would they hoard my cards?
It… It seems weird to me.
Why would somebody
buy anything they think is a great deal?
Somebody can look at your cards,
they can compare the prices
to a Tom Brady, or a Patrick Mahomes
and say, "Wow! Why is Peyton Manning
so much cheaper?"
And they know it's wrong, they buy it,
and wait for the market to correct.
So I should be honored
that people are hoarding?
If you went to Goldin and you saw
175 lots full of Peyton Manning cards,
you'd know everyone's taking and dumping,
"I don't want this guy's cards anymore."
-"Sell, sell, sell."
-Yeah.
So that's something good. You want that.
[upbeat music playing]
-Hey, boo.
-Hey, lady. What's up?
-[Myesha] I'm okay. How are you doing?
-[Marlisa] Doing good.
Super excited to see the results.
Where are we starting?
The Britney dress.
When the Goldin team comes to me,
it's to get
that initial step of authentication,
and determine whether or not
they'd be worth it to send off
to get a final verification.
I was able to find images from 2012,
when she walked out
on span style="style2"The X-Factor wearing this dress.
-Literally?
-[Marlisa] Yes.
So I was able to match
these three beads from right here.
-[Myesha] These here?
-[Marlisa] Yup.
I can tell, based on the sewing job
from down here on the hem,
that this was indeed cut,
and it was cut a little jagged.
-[Myesha] Love this.
-[Marlisa] Because of how that lays.
If you try to lay it flat,
it's not perfectly straight.
This photo in particular,
it's super pixilated
because they're, like, ten years old.
Right.
[Marlisa] But here, you can see there are
these two darker
skin-color pixels right here.
Right.
And the grayer pixels
continue up here, on these two lines,
[Myesha] Right.
You can actually tell
that mimics these threads right there.
[gasps] Oh my God.
How'd you figure that out? That's insane.
Based on that, I think I can confirm
that this is…
-Yay.
-This is the Britney dress.
But what about the washcloths?
Looking at the letter
that came from the housekeeper,
the letter itself
came from the Marriott in Warsaw.
I can confirm
he did in fact stay at the hotel.
I was able to match this photo
of him coming into the hotel,
to this video.
[fans cheering and screaming]
Is there video of him
using washcloths at all from that time?
Unfortunately not.
I am doubtful that they're fake.
I'm almost certain they're real.
It's just the standards are way too high.
They'd never allow this to go to auction,
so that is disappointing.
[Marlisa] Yeah.
[Myesha] I am super worried
that Carlo is not gonna want to
get rid of the Britney dress at all.
I think the washcloths
are gonna make or break the deal.
Hopefully, he'll still work with me
on this one.
He better.
-[Myesha laughs] Thank you, Marlisa.
-It's Britney, bitch. [laughs]
-[Myesha] It is indeed.
-[both laugh]
-See you.
-[Myesha] Appreciate it.
["Gonna Be a Knockout"
by The Hoof playing]
It's gonna be a knockout
Knockout, knockout ♪
It's gonna be a knockout
Knockout, a knockout ♪
'Cause you ain't never seen me fight
Like this ♪
I'm a heavyweight… ♪
-How are you, my friend?
-Mike, how are you doing?
-[Mike] Awesome, brother.
-Good to see you, my man.
-What's up, Ken?
-[Ken] Hey, good to see you, Ryan.
Thanks for coming.
I believe we have some tasty items
you might find interesting.
Let's take a look.
When Mike Tyson told me he wanted
to put up some of his items for auction,
I dropped everything.
Everyone knows Iron Mike.
Whatever he's got
is going to excite a lot of collectors.
This is the one I was hoping you'd bring.
I knew you had this.
Shorts from span style="style2"Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
-[laughs]
-Bravo, bravo, bravo!
The greatest fighting video game
of all time. It'll be a masterpiece item.
[Alex] span style="style2"In 1985 an 18-year-old Mike Tyson
span style="style2"made his professional boxing debut.
In 1987 the critically acclaimed
span style="style1"Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! was released.
Tyson donned these black silk shorts
on the cover of what would become known
as one of
the greatest video games of all time.
After the license to use Tyson expired,
he was replaced
by the fictional Mr. Dream,
making these cover-worn boxing shorts
a riveting piece of memorabilia.
-Have you beaten the game?
-I never came close.
I never fought myself.
[laughs]
-I suck.
-[laughing]
And Glass Joe knocked me out.
[gaming music playing]
Anybody who's a fan of yours
and a fan of the game
will want to own this,
and there's only one.
You're absolutely right.
I don't get nostalgic
about my fighting shorts or anything.
I think they belong to the people.
The people should have them.
So the people are welcome to it.
This, I would think, um, we can get, uh,
maybe $25,000 for it, maybe more.
So does this sound good?
Do we have a deal?
[curious music playing]
I also wanna fight you
for those Muhammad Ali gloves.
[boxing bell dinging]
That's gonna be
the deal closer right there.
My Muhammad Ali gloves?
[Mike] Right there,
the red Muhammad Ali glove
with the gold writing on it.
-Are you ready to put up your dukes?
-[laughing] Oh, not versus you!
Come on, man. Give it up, dude.
Ken's trying to make a deal,
but I'm gonna make it hard on him.
Every time I see any products
or memorabilia of Muhammad Ali,
I'm always hopeful I can get it.
Really. I got a collection,
and this would be the crown jewel.
Oh man.
This is such an important deal.
Locking in my relationship
with a historic athlete like Mike,
he could keep bringing us items
for years to come.
Rock, paper, scissors for it?
-Yeah!
-[Ken] You'll do that?
Ken has no idea I'm a master
at rock, paper, scissors.
-[gaming music playing]
-Two out of three.
[both] Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
-Ah!
-Oof.
-[both] Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
-Boom. You lose. Tiebreaker now. Uh-oh.
-Tiebreaker. [laughs]
-[Ken] Ready?
Yeah.
[both] Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
-[Ken] Boo.
-[laughs]
-[Ken] Okay.
-Ah-ha!
-[boxing bell dings]
-See?
[Mike sighs happily]
-[Ken] Here's the glove. We got a deal?
-Yes.
[Ken] Okay, got a deal, my man.
[Mike] That looks beautiful.
["We Play Dirty" by Josh Mobley playing]
span style="style2"We play dirty ♪
-Yo, we don't fight fair ♪
-We don't fight fair ♪
We fight like your air drums
Ha! ♪
Bob your head
Till you break your neck… ♪
-Thank you for coming in so soon.
-Thanks for having me back.
Carlo is getting way more excited
about getting rid of the washcloth.
I think that's his main goal here.
My main goal
is to get him the money he deserves
for that Britney dress.
-We'll start with the washcloth.
-Okay.
Unfortunately for Goldin,
we cannot put these in our auction.
We need to be able to,
essentially, photo-match.
They'd have to literally
have pictures of Michael using it.
To be completely honest,
I really thought
that was enough to authenticate it.
You're not gonna have security footage
from his room of him wiping his face.
I understand it's disappointing, Carlo.
I'd highly recommend
you try to do a private sale for this,
but I can't put that into our auction.
Okay. [chuckles]
There's plenty of reason to believe
these are the exact washcloths he used,
but the high standards
for authentication we have
is why people prefer us.
Because they know
every one of our items are real.
This one we can
certainly put into auction.
So I'm hoping
you are willing to close this out.
I don't know.
Britney is really important to me,
and it's really tough
for me to part with it. [exhales]
If you consign today,
I would store it in the vault,
and we could just hold it there
until it's a good time again.
So when Britney is in the media again,
for whatever reason,
you will get the maximum amount
you possibly could for this.
If we put it in at a good time,
when she's, you know, hot again,
I would imagine it's going 20,
25 thousand dollars, maybe.
-[whimsical music playing]
-Well… [laughs]
…in that case…
-Yeah, I'd rather have $20,000. Okay.
-[laughs]
All right, then we can
get this process started.
I can get you a contract
and we can start now.
-Okay. Cool.
-All right?
I do feel like this is
a step forward for me.
I am so happy.
If I close the five-figure deal,
we're all going on vacation. [laughs]
We'll have this ready to go into auction,
and we'll get you a bunch of money for it.
Hopefully, a comeback tour.
We'll be front row together.
-[laughs]
-[laughs] Absolutely.
[upbeat music playing]
Hi, guys. Welcome back.
Thank you for coming back.
This is Armando. Nicolas and Jean Nicolas.
I brought Armando here.
He made that initial great offer.
He wanted to meet you guys.
See if we can get this done today.
My name is Armando Gutierrez.
I've been collecting since I was eight.
F1, like any sport, has its GOATs.
The greatest of all time,
which I believe, in F1, is Lewis Hamilton.
Armando made a great initial offer,
but I did tell him
that we're starting to lean
towards the auction.
This is a very special card.
But I also don't like the back-and-forth
of bidding against other people
going to auction.
So I'll make you another offer.
You either gotta say yes or no.
I either walk out of this door
with the card,
or you keep it and take it to auction.
[mysterious music playing]
[sighs, chuckles]
[in French] I am so excited
to view this offer,
and such a huge amount
can really change my life
and the life of my family.
[mysterious music continues]
["West Coast Swag"
by Young Hustle playing]
You know, I'm always on the grind
With some money on my mind ♪
But I like it
Why? Why? ♪
But I like it
Yeah, yeah ♪
Cali weather, Cali trees
Cali swag, Cali freeze ♪
Never stops wearing the Rolex watch ♪
But I like it
Why? Why? ♪
But I like it ♪
Yeah… ♪