The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch (2020) s01e08 Episode Script

- Look at that.
- What is that?
THOMAS:
There's a helicopter coming in.
That dude's hovering
right there.
THOMAS: I think somebody's
watching us right now.
There's something going on
out here.
TRAVIS: What in the world?
There's no sign of struggle.
It's just dead.
- (beeping)
- The meter is going nuts.
All the frequencies are excited.
Mankind doesn't know
how to do that.
LINDA: You all may have
the first consistent data
here at the Skinwalker Ranch.
We're dealing with something
that doesn't want us
to understand.
ERIK:
The cow is right here.
I can't help
but also notice that
there's something
happening here.
BRANDON:
The cow reacted
the moment that
that object appeared.
NARRATOR: There is a
ranch in Northern Utah.
It is considered the epicenter
of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
animal mutilations,
bizarre UFO sightings
and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
For 20 years,
the federal government
tried to find answers
and failed.
Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
researchers and experts
has taken over.
They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal
The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
ERIK:
So here, you can see
she starts to get up.
The cow is trying
to get up on her feet.
- The object is here.
- LINDA: Wow.
- The cow reacted.
- TRAVIS: Right.
The moment that
that object appeared
above the cow,
the cow was reacting.
Yes.
TRAVIS: Yesterday,
on the ranch, we found
that a two-year-old cow
that had gotten
completely separated
from the rest of the herd
just suddenly died.
And for no apparent reason.
Jim, are you seeing anything
on the spectrum analyzer?
So, I'm getting
some pretty high spikes.
TRAVIS:
Oh, wow!
Later, we had
a veterinarian come out
and perform an autopsy to
determine the cause of death.
But his findings only served
to confirm our suspicions
that something
really out of the ordinary
must have happened to it.
SEGALA:
I just want to verify something,
that the animal
was going about her business,
doing her thing,
got stressed by something
that lowered her immune system,
which allowed pneumonia
to set in.
Exactly, yeah.
All the signs I've seen
point toward
stress-induced pneumonia.
TRAVIS: Luckily, one of Erik
Bard's surveillance cameras
actually captured the moment
that the cow died.
It also captured something else.
Something that appears
to be a UFO
in the sky directly overhead.
Go back and show them
where you first see it, Erik.
Okay, so this
is our first shot of it.
And I'm going to go
single-stepping
one frame at a time.
LINDA:
And it actually popped.
So, is that 1/30th
of a second video?
- It's 1/15th.
- This is, this is 1/15. - LINDA: 1/15.
TRAVIS: And so, clearly,
it's behind the trees.
And you know,
the distance from the camera
to the trees is how far?
It's about 75 feet
between the-the tree
that you see on the far right
and the next tree.
So, if it's
directly over the tree line,
it moved 75 feet
in a 15th of a second.
So, you multiply that,
that means it moved about
a thousand feet in a second.
That's That's as fast
as a high-powered rifle bullet.
I was sitting here
this whole time
just thinking it was a bird,
but you watch that real-time,
- I mean, that's fast.
- Yeah, there's no bird moving that fast.
Not at a thousand feet
per second.
I have no idea what that is.
And you're saying
a thousand feet per second,
- assuming it's right above the trees.
- It's right over the trees.
- Right.
- If it's just beyond the tree,
- it could be moving even faster.
- TRAVIS: Even faster.
There's an interesting thing
that I noticed
when we were looking
at it earlier. Erik,
if you could pull the one where
it's directly over the cow.
- And zoom in on the thing.
- Sure.
- You want to go in tighter?
- TRAVIS: Yup.
Uh, if you look around
the spot, there's an area
that looks
a little bit different.
- LINDA: Halo-ish.
- TRAVIS: Yeah.
And I noticed it
when I did an analysis
of the Tic Tac video
that the Navy has.
Recently, it's come to light
that there's been this program
that the Pentagon
has been funding called
the Advanced Aerospace Threat
Identification Program,
A- A-T-I-P or AATIP.
And this program
was actually put in place
to look at unknown
aerial phenomena: UFOs.
And there's a Gimbal video
that was released,
uh, and a Tic Tac video.
And all these videos show
a vehicle that's flying
with some type of propulsion
that we don't know of.
We can't understand what it is
by looking at the video.
When we looked at it on a FLIR,
that told us that it was cold
and the craft was warm.
And then you got ambient air
around it.
During my first meeting
with the Skinwalker team,
Brandon showed me a photo
of a UFO
that was taken above the ranch.
One of the first things
that we captured
on the property
was an interesting object
just over the mesa.
TRAVIS:
And it looked to have
that same kind of halo
around it,
something
that I believe is caused
by a temperature differential.
And that's something I've seen
in a number of other UFO videos.
It could be a highly,
highly classified thing.
But here's the thing.
If there's a project
that's that classified,
that level of technology
so far advanced
from the rest of the technology
we have on the planet,
that-that's h
that's real hard to swallow.
Two things we don't know.
Are we dealing with a craft
that is moving point to point
and has influence
on the brain of that cow?
And the fact
that the herd is not around.
I don't know
that I have seen them pushed up
to that side of the ranch
since we brought them on,
so that behavior by itself
was unusual.
LINDA:
I saw the cow,
and it's not a mutilation.
But somehow that animal
was sick enough
or affected enough
or manipulated enough,
it was left behind all the herd.
And it is that that has been
reported over and over
in animal mutilation cases.
Is it related in some way?
I think we're seeing a reaction
to something in its environment
- at the very end.
- Right.
And it's enough of a reaction
that it's making
- a deathly ill cow want to move.
- Want to get out of there.
BRANDON: We very well
could have prevented
a full-blown cattle mutilation
from occurring.
- That's a possibility.
- That's a possibility.
It's oddly serendipitous.
You know,
it's one of those things.
We continue to hit home
that correlation
isn't causation,
but we have two
really interesting phenomena
occurring
at exactly the same time
very near
the same spatial location.
It really makes you want
to look deeper to see
can we prove the cow moved
because of that thing?
Man, you just got to wonder.
If this object appeared
at just the same time
this cow is dying
its last breath
and then just after the fact,
we're measuring
all these weird
electromagnetic signals,
is that a coincidence?
BRANDON: We're out in
the middle of nowhere.
So, which begs the question.
Linda,
have you seen with other cases
you have investigated
these type of phenomena attend
cattle mutilations
and other events?
LINDA:
The sudden separation
of a herd
that goes completely as far
as they can go in a pasture,
leaving the animal
that is found mutilated?
That's happened
many, many times.
What about the electromagnetic
type of anomalies?
LINDA:
I feel strongly
where there are mutilations,
where there are UFOs,
you're going to find
that there are
magnetic anomalies.
They go together.
And that includes
the running down of batteries.
Wow.
TRAVIS:
That's
We get that all the time.
It's really weird that when
strange things seem to happen,
we seem to find something
in the sky at the same time.
LINDA:
I think we are dealing
with point to point.
I think
we're dealing with portals.
I think we are dealing
with advanced technology.
See, you've got the combination
of just about every
high strangeness going on here
at Skinwalker Ranch.
But after being here for a day,
I think the chapter
has just simply turned.
And what I think gives me
a new confidence
that maybe we're going to get
some more data
is because of the work
you're doing.
So, hooray, you guys.
Keep doing this,
because this is maybe
the only way we're really going
to learn some of the truth
that has been hidden.
BRANDON:
Absolutely.
I think we're just starting
to pull back the curtain
with our investigation here
at Skinwalker Ranch.
And, uh, we'll look forward
to further updates
in the future.
- Thank you.
- (overlapping chatter)
(wind whistling)
JIM:
It's good to see everybody.
- It's good to have you back, Travis.
- Yeah, man.
I missed you guys.
After being out there with y'all
for so long,
it was strange going home.
And I kept looking
over my shoulder for crazy stuff
to happen, but
- (laughter)
- Brandon
has instructed
Tom, Erik and the team
to continue their surveillance
of all the activities
on the ranch.
But after the death of the cow,
we decided
to put a pause
on experimentation out there,
at least until
we've had a chance to analyze
all the data that we collected
over the summer.
Hey, gentlemen.
I'd like you to meet
attorney general
for the state of Utah,
- Sean Reyes.
- TRAVIS: Wow!
- Dragon, how's it going?
- Hey.
- Good to see you again.
- Good to see you, too.
- Sir.
- Travis Taylor.
Mr. Taylor.
Pleased to meet you.
Attorney General Reyes
has been briefed
over the course
of the last several years.
He's been very well aware
and kept up on the events
that have occurred
on property with you.
And I thought
it was important today,
at his request,
for him to be briefed
on some of the more disturbing
and interesting incidents
that we've
most recently had out on the
on the property.
- Great.
- JIM: Yeah, thank you so much.
- Appreciate your time. Thanks very much.
- Glad you're here.
TRAVIS:
The fact that our activities
at Skinwalker Ranch
have merited the attention
of the state's attorney generl
shows me how seriously
the state of Utah is taking
everything that we're doing
out there.
I mean, let's face it,
if just some of our suspicions
turn out to be correct,
the national security
implications could be huge.
Thanks very much.
Brandon's been keeping me
updated.
Because you all shepherd
the public now
in a much more visible way
into the exploration
of what Skinwalker Ranch
represents.
- Yeah.
- And, um,
on behalf of the citizens
of the state of Utah,
I think it'd be important
that this isn't viewed
as just, you know,
this mysterious project
that these outsiders
are conducting.
These are important issues
for our state.
I'm happy to be a part of it.
I'm honored that you all
would brief me
and let me participate.
So thank you all,
each and every one of you.
- Appreciate it.
- Thank you. - Thank you.
You know, as we come back
together after a month,
I thought it was important
to evaluate the events
that happened on that ranch.
- Yeah.
- Because now you have hard data
- Right. - that helps
us hopefully understand
what is at play
at Skinwalker Ranch.
- Right.
- ERIK: There's so many points here,
very good important points,
for us to discuss,
and, really,
sifting information,
trying to understand,
you know, what is significant
and what may just be
coincidental.
And also,
if there are connections,
what are they?
Well, what have you taken
from the events
that have occurred
over the last few months?
Let's take this recent
disturbing incident
with the cow.
The cow died, and we have,
at the time of it dying,
measured strange
microwave activity.
- He was getting gammas.
- Yeah, and microwaves.
TRAVIS:
Hey, y'all?
I'd recommend not to touch it
till we see
if it's radioactive or not.
THOMAS:
No sign of trauma.
TRAVIS:
What in the world?
There's no cat tracks,
there's no sign of struggle.
- Middle of the day.
- It's just dead.
Jim, are you seeing anything
on the spectrum analyzer?
I'm getting
some pretty high spikes.
TRAVIS:
Oh, wow!
Look at
the meter's going crazy.
My phone starts freaking out
whenever your TriField goes off.
I don't have any control
over my phone right now.
TRAVIS:
Dude, look at that.
SEGALA:
We had an actual autopsy done
by a veterinarian,
a local veterinarian, and
what they found out
is that it died of pneumonia
brought on by stress.
BRANDON: What we did record
is, we did record
some anomalous object
in the sky above the cow
before it died
that it was reacting to.
So you have a biosensor,
in essence, that reacted
immediately to the event.
- Absolutely.
- Something scared it to death.
- TRAVIS: That's a really
good way to put it. - Yep.
- Something scared it to death.
- THOMAS: It gets even stranger,
because after this cow died,
we do what most ranchers do,
and you drag it off to a corner,
and you let the body decompose.
- And let the-the scavengers
- And-and yeah,
and the typical thing is,
the coyotes
and the scavengers come in,
and they pick it clean.
I was just up there a week ago,
on a patrol, and I went
over there where that cow's at,
and it has not been touched.
To this day, not a single
scavenger has touched that cow.
SEAN:
Highly irregular.
TRAVIS:
One of my graduate students
grew up working
on a cattle farm in Alabama,
and he told me that if lightning
ever struck one of the cows,
that the predators
would not eat it.
Maybe something happened
to this cow.
We know it wasn't struck
by lightning,
'cause there was no storms
at the time.
But we did measure
really high microwaves.
And maybe whatever
these signals are
is affecting this cow in such
a way that it tainted it.
And it's still sitting there.
No nothing has touched it.
So there's something to that.
And there was another day where
we were launching rockets,
for example, when
suddenly we see
so many phenomena
across so many different regimes
of measurement.
While we were launching
these rockets,
the entire herd of about 40 cows
come over
to the area where we are.
You might think
that they would be, um
- Skittish.
- frightened of our activity.
You'd think
they'd go away from us.
Instead, during that activity,
we watched the cattle come
- to the east field.
- Actually,
- they didn't come, they ran.
- Well, that was exactly the point.
- They ran.
- And
some of them behaved
as if they were in a panic.
It was nearly
stampeding behavior.
Yeah, yeah.
SEGALA:
Look at the cows.
That is the strangest thing.
- (cows bellowing)
- BRYANT: Never seen that before.
SEGALA:
They all grouped together
so tight, they started fighting.
THOMAS: They started to fight
among each other,
head-butting each other,
they were mooing, they were
BRYANT: I thought they were
gonna take down the east fence.
Something that gave them
more concern
than the sound of the rockets.
TRAVIS:
Well, and it's at the same time
that the unidentified
aerial phenomena
- start appearing in the sky.
- Really?
TRAVIS:
Ignition!
Look, look, look, look!
- What is that?
- We got something. Hold on.
THOMAS: Oh, wait, wait,
it's a plane, I think.
TRAVIS:
No, that wasn't a plane.
- Oh, there it is again!
- There it is again!
THOMAS:
It's gone.
SEAN:
It's one thing to have
a light in the night
or some random sighting,
but when livestock start
to literally fall over
It's not unheard of to have them
die from time to time,
but not under these kinds
of circumstances,
not with this many questions.
Or, our bigger concern,
uh, beyond livestock,
when this starts to potentially
impact human beings.
BRANDON:
Yes.
You found out firsthand,
surprisingly,
how dangerous this ranch can be.
TRAVIS: Absolutely.
While we were out there,
we were in a
in a cave, and, uh,
I was exposed to something that
made me, uh, nearly pass out.
TRAVIS:
Let me ask a question, guys.
- Do any of y'all feel a little swimmy-headed
at all? - ERIK: You feeling it?
TRAVIS: I don't know.
Slightly, I felt
like I was not holding
my balance well
for a second there-that's why
I put my hand over on the rock.
And I'm feeling it now, too.
TRAVIS:
And then, a few days later,
I was exposed to a fairly high
dose of gamma ray radiation.
Heck, it could be a tunnel
entrance for all we know.
I'd like to know
what's in this thing.
Don't lift it up.
TRAVIS:
I feel like, uh,
I got a little bit of a headache
or something happening.
- Holy Mine's beeping.
- SEGALA: Your total dose
- is way up there.
- Oh, my God.
We were just exposed
to ionizing radiation.
So, did you end up
going to the hospital
- as a result of these injuries?
- TRAVIS: Yes.
I had surgery
as a result of those injuries.
TRAVIS: Maybe a week,
maybe two weeks at most,
after I got exposed
to the radiation,
I started getting a knot
forming here, a bump,
coming out of my knuckle there.
And then another bump
started forming.
And on into the summer,
it kept getting bigger
and bigger and started hurting.
That's that's nasty, man.
So then I went
and had it X-rayed,
and my doctor looked at it,
and he says, "Well, uh,
you've got two bone spurs
in there."
They said, "Well, you're
gonna have to have it removed,
'cause it's just gonna keep
getting bigger and worse."
And so they went in,
and they took out a cyst
that was almost as big
as an M&M.
There was, like,
18 stitches in there.
JIM:
Mm, that's unreal.
And, uh, and it still feels
like it's a broken finger.
It's still a little bit painful,
but it's,
you know, it's healing fine.
Wow.
TRAVIS:
I believe that whatever
this phenomena is
that we've measured,
every time we've measured it,
we do get high energy levels
and microwaves,
and we've measured gamma rays.
And so it's possible
that whatever this is
that's occurring
is what's causing the injuries.
But you're not the only one,
right?
- Mr. Winterton had
- Thomas had serious ones, yeah.
I know, at least for my injury,
and-and if I'm under
the correct understanding
of some of the other injuries,
they couldn't explain it away.
- That's what
- That particular one, they couldn't.
They never came to conclusion
of what caused it,
and they couldn't find
what it was.
- TRAVIS: Right.
- Yep. - BRYANT: Well,
to your point, Thomas, too,
when you talk
about ranching injuries,
we're not talking about
broken bones and smashed hands.
We're talking
about radiation exposure.
The injuries that Tom Winterton
experienced back two years ago
were of the nature that he had
a neurological episode,
and he had a big swelling
in the back of his head.
And his injuries was consistent
with a radiation beam
that entered his body
from a specific angle,
back behind his head.
So Thomas's injury
really reinforces that this
ranch could be very dangerous.
Somehow, all of this is coupled;
we just don't know how.
Yeah.
ERIK: Obviously,
we're experiencing things
of a subjective nature.
Something in our physiology
is responding
to something on the property,
- Yeah.
- but we also see
devices of many different kinds
malfunctioning on the ranch.
We're talking about the,
uh, disruption of a handheld
or a mobile device.
- Like the phones, right?
- Right.
My phone's freaking out.
It's just been doing this
for the last,
you know, couple minutes.
I just ran up here
so you could see it.
It was in my contacts, it tried
calling a couple people,
and then it's been
messing around in my camera.
Dude, that is crazy.
ERIK:
We are continuously dealing
with some kind of interference
that takes our systems down.
And it's not one type of device;
it's many kinds of devices.
- Right.
- Uh, you know,
very often batteries are
are discharged,
- Yeah.
- or things don't work correctly.
Yeah.
PHIL:
Oh, my gosh.
I completely charged
these four batteries
last evening, and now
they're into the yellow section.
ERIK:
When have you seen that before?
I quite frankly
have not seen that before.
TRAVIS:
You name it,
if it had electronics in it,
somehow or other,
it malfunctioned while
we were out there this summer.
It either turned itself off, uh,
it w-just wouldn't function.
Its electronic control software
didn't work.
We had drones that worked fine
one second,
then move it ten feet over
and it wouldn't work at all.
DERRICK:
All right, let's do this.
No connection.
TRAVIS:
Huh, that's weird.
DERRICK: Yeah,
I'm not connecting to the remote.
I don't know
what's happening with it.
T- That makes no sense.
I don't think
this is a coincidence.
I think what happened is that
because we were all there,
we were concentrated,
we were doing experiments
on a daily basis
Look, it is going nuts.
It's coming from up there.
And we were doing lots
of experiments that no one
has ever really done
on the ranch.
Oh, you see that?
Look, look, look.
SEGALA: That caused the
entity, the phenomena,
whatever you want to call it,
to actually show itself
on a more frequent basis.
THOMAS:
That's a definite beam.
It is clearly a beam
going across there.
What we're seeing
might not just be
the reactions of the phenomena.
The phenomena might actually be
trying to tell us something
or show us something
or lead us to something.
As you've seen
unidentified aerial phenomena
appear simultaneous
with other events,
does that constitute contact?
So, we didn't, as far as I can
tell, try and talk back to them,
but we don't know
that we didn't.
We were launching rockets,
for example,
when, uh, a lot of them
appeared over us.
- Right.
- Yeah.
TRAVIS: After having a month
to reflect on, uh,
all the things we did,
the one thing that I just
can't seem to, uh,
quit thinking about, really,
is while we were launching
those rockets,
we had all these experiences,
saw all these UFOs
appearing in the sky.
- THOMAS: Look, look, look!
- ERIK: What is that?
TRAVIS: And we measured it
with all these instruments.
I wonder, were we communicating
with whatever
this phenomenon is by launching
these rockets and it said,
"Hey, we're here,"
and they said, "Hey," back?
- Oh, there it is again!
- There it is again!
- It's still in the same spot.
- BRYANT: Right there.
There's some communication
possibly taking place
in response to the experiments
that you launched.
- Right.
- ERIK: And also,
if there are connections,
what are they?
Are we intelligent enough, are
we intuitive enough, perhaps,
to-to understand if, in fact,
we're being communicated with?
- Yep.
- Do any of the things that we've observed
constitute communication?
Well, there's absolutely
no disputing the fact
that we launched rockets,
phenomena occurred.
I mean, within seconds
and minutes of each other.
It would be interesting to say
it's just serendipitous,
but never before on the ranch
have you guys reported a-
this much activity at one time.
JIM:
Not to this level.
- It's unexplainable.
- Yep.
SEGALA: We've never
had physical evidence
that we actually saw
with our own eyes.
We've never had recorded,
electronically recorded data
that we took with instruments.
I mean, this is amazing.
- Yeah.
- SEAN: And for those of us who look at
- a lot of evidence, that's the most
credible type of evidence. - Yep.
The stuff that's happening right
in front of your eyes, right?
No-no chance for someone's
memory to-to fade or to distort,
um, so that's im-
that's impressive.
TRAVIS:
So-so, what it tells us is,
by-without-
beyond a shadow of a doubt,
there is some phenomena
occurring
and we have measured
the phenomena.
The phenomena is real.
Now the question is:
what is this phenomena?
- Fascinating.
- SEGALA: So,
technologically now, we've
advanced this whole thing,
very, very high-
to a high level.
Which means that we can
take the next level.
- Right.
- Why can't we communicate with them?
So, now that brings up
all these moral issues,
that falls on your shoulders.
TRAVIS:
Whatever these are,
are saying, "Hey."
Do we have permission
to say hi back?
- Yeah.
- SEAN: There are government agencies
and divisions for interactions.
Uh, we had them
when we flew to the Moon.
We had to prepare just in case,
even in
a one in a million chance
that we made first contact.
How do we interact?
Who's gonna interact?
What-What's the message?
- Yeah, what are the protocols?
- Yeah, that's right.
- That's it. Exactly.
- Right.
Maybe that's what we do,
is just follow, uh,
what's in that
particular guidance.
Yeah.
- Right.
- ERIK: You know, as I've been listening,
you know, my head is swimming
with-with ideas
about what it all means.
Do you have something
you'd like to share
and illustrate for us?
I do have something,
if we're ready for that.
ERIK:
Recently, I've been preparing,
I guess, we'll call it a model
prompted by, uh,
measurements of RF,
in particular
microwave frequencies,
we've observed this summer.
For example,
if there were a source
projecting energy downward,
towards the ground,
then what we see in the model
represents how
it would be reflected by the
terrain into the space above.
TRAVIS:
One of our theories is
that the Uinta Basin looks like
a very large, uh, radio antenna.
It's a-a dish,
'cause it's shaped
- parabolically.
- Right.
TRAVIS:
And so, if that's the case,
whatever these weird signals
we're seeing,
they're bouncing off of it
and being focused to somewhere,
just like a dish
focuses the energy.
ERIK:
So, Attorney General Reyes,
what we're doing is we're-we're
fleshing out a hypothesis.
Okay?
We have some measurements.
We have some data
that are very suggestive,
that maybe what Travis
just described
is relevant somehow
to what's going on.
And so,
to visualize that problem,
I decided to build this model.
So, what I'd like to do
is to share
some of the results
of the modeling.
So, the data that we used
to build this model comes from
the United States
Geologic Survey.
This is terrain data that tells
us what the lay of the land is.
And we plugged that
into the model
and then turn it
into a reflector.
So we should all recognize
this geography.
- BRANDON: Wow.
- That's awesome.
ERIK:
So we're going to focus on
the things that may happen
that intersect
with the ranch property.
We are located
where you see that graphic.
TRAVIS:
Right-Almost dead center.
ERIK:
Yes.
So, what I did
was construct a
60,000-square-kilometer mirror.
And then producing a line
of what you just described
as radiation coming down
from above, okay?
So, we're going to look
at how those rays,
uh, interact with
and reflect from this surface,
which is what
this next visual shows us.
- BRANDON: Wow.
- JIM: Geez, Louise.
ERIK:
This represents measurements
of microwave frequencies
that we had in the summer.
We are looking at
parallel rays of energy
coming down from above.
Primarily for long wavelengths,
not necessarily visible light.
- BRYANT: Incredible. It's really cool.
- Yeah.
If you'll look at the ones
right in the center,
they're being focused.
And the ones at the edge,
you can see
there is a significant focus,
where these things
are being brought to a point
and there's mu-
a big concentration of energy
up here somewhere.
If you think about it,
that is amazing.
Erik, this is so cool.
Impressive.
TRAVIS:
Based on Erik's visualization,
I believe that the Uinta Basin
could be acting
almost like a satellite dish,
one that both collects
and directs energy
from somewhere out in space.
Big question.
What could be causing
this energy?
TRAVIS:
That's the big question.
That is the question of the day.
TRAVIS:
So, there's two possibilities.
Right now, we're thinking,
"Okay, it's a-
it's a-
it's a reflective dish."
And so maybe the energy's
coming from space
and it hits
and it's being focused up. Or
the other possibility is
this could be acting like a lens
and not just a dish.
The source could be down here,
inside the Earth,
and coming up through it
and focusing.
But to what end, we don't know.
And-and we've got to come up
with other measurements
to figure out
where the energy's coming from.
Hmm.
BRYANT: So,
we've had the debate of whether
it's below the Earth
or coming from above. I mean,
it could be
a combination of the two.
Absolutely. I agree.
I agree 100%.
There's a source
and a destination,
- whether, you know
- Yeah. Yeah, there's-
One of them's a-There's
a source and-and to what end.
We got to find out
where they're coming from.
Yeah.
ERIK:
Now, this also reminds me
of something that-
what I found kind of troubling
during the summer.
You recall, you did an exercise
where you seemingly located
a source,
uh, a concentration of signals,
uh, fairly low.
At about 5,000 feet. And
I was just thinking about that.
ERIK:
Right, and could you point
in the-in the vicinity
of where you think that was?
TRAVIS:
Yeah.
So, right in here,
you can see there is
some convergence right there.
There was a local focus,
and we launched a weather
balloon with radio frequency
and microwave instruments on it.
And when it got
to about that height,
the instruments started failing.
You guys ready?
- Yep, we're good.
- Yep. Good to go.
TRAVIS:
All right, here we go.
All right, slowly let it up.
All right, keep going.
You're good.
- THOMAS: Okay, we're clear.
- TRAVIS: All right.
THOMAS:
Man, that's a big balloon.
Yeah, ain't that cool?
THOMAS:
Man, that's a long ways up.
TRAVIS:
Heck yeah.
It failed right there,
which suggests
maybe the power was so high
that it burned out
the instruments.
Wow.
BRYANT: And whether it's
just bad luck or not,
we never recovered the balloon,
even.
- SEAN: Interesting.
- BRANDON: You never recovered
- the balloon?
- BRYANT: No. No.
TRAVIS:
And we had GPS trackers on it.
So, you lost it.
When it hit that point,
all of the instruments failed?
All the other instruments
failed.
What?
Wow.
TRAVIS:
You know, it's really intriguing
and, um, actually
kind of startling a little bit
is I've been contacted by, uh,
some folks
in the intelligence community
that are really interested
in what we've found.
BRYANT:
So,
is it they approached you?
How have they heard about
They approached us.
Wow. So we're being monitored?
Yep.
So we're being monitored?
There are people interested
in what we are doing.
I find that really intriguing.
They're gonna tell us something,
I don't know what.
But my suspicion is they've
measured a similar phenomenon,
don't know what it is,
and they want to compare notes.
And I find that
really intriguing.
It's very strange.
Hmm.
So what this tells us though is
there are real government
organizations,
who are interested
in this phenomena
and-and are taking it seriously.
BRANDON:
Wow.
TRAVIS:
After being contacted
by representatives
of the government,
including some folks
in the intelligence community,
it was clear to me
that someone had
been following our progress
on the ranch.
THOMAS:
Look at that-what is that?
- There's a helicopter right up there.
- Yeah, sure is.
THOMAS:
You can hear it.
TRAVIS: That dude's
hovering right there.
I think somebody's
watching us right now.
That's exactly
what it looks like.
TRAVIS: I think they're-they're
watching us, guys.
ERIK: So, guys,
I'm gonna try to go in,
and look
at the transponder data.
See if I can figure out
who it is.
Yeah, that's a good idea, Erik.
They should by law,
right, be transponding.
What we got, Erik?
They didn't show up at all.
BRYANT:
So do you have a fear
that there's the possibility
of them shutting us down or?
- TRAVIS: No, you know
- I don't think so, I think it's
more they're gonna encourage us
to go in a direction.
But do they want
the world to know
what's happening?
They won't tell anybody.
They may not, but, I mean
I doubt they will
acknowledge that they
ever had the meeting with us.
Uh, but they will know
what we know at that point.
Yeah, the fact that
we're being monitored,
that our efforts
have received a higher level
of attention and awareness
within those channels,
I think speaks to the reality
of this ranch.
Absolutely, I agree.
I agree 100%.
BRANDON:
As we have obtained
all of this data and evidence,
I think now
it is our responsibility
to take this forward.
But I'd like to hear
from the team, you know,
what do we need to implement
that will help us
advance this research
to the next level?
ERIK:
So, naturally, I'm interested
in increasing our
instrumentation bandwidth.
Our virtual presence
on the property.
I mean, we can't
always be present.
At the same time,
I have a feeling-
more than a feeling-
I have the data
that suggests that there are
things taking place
all the time that are
part of this puzzle,
and we want to collect
as much of that as possible.
BRYANT:
That's a great idea.
TRAVIS: So another experiment
that we really should do,
also, is that we should design
and construct a very good,
small satellite platform
that we can get launched
as a secondary payload,
uh, pretty much for free-
NASA has projects-
especially if we involve
a university.
They'll launch it
for you for free.
You don't have to pay
to get it launched.
And-and we would put it
in an orbit
that goes over the ranch.
BRANDON:
Wow.
TRAVIS:
And so that we would
continually get data from it.
Wow.
TRAVIS:
I want to try and
reproduce stimulating
the phenomenon.
Like the rocket test day,
where we were
doing measurements
with the rockets,
and then, suddenly,
we see so many phenomena.
I want to see
if we can reproduce that.
Thomas has-has said before,
maybe the ranch
gets immune to it and we have to
bring it up a notch each time.
You know, do we do twice
as many rockets the next time?
Or do we do one bigger rocket?
- That is something we should
really look at. - Right.
SEGALA:
So what I would propose,
I think that it's important
that we have a medical program
with protocols in place
before anybody
steps back on that ranch
in a significant way.
BRANDON:
Yeah, health and safety
is going to be important,
especially given the fact that
Tom and Travis
both went to the hospital
as a result
of the activities
over the last few months.
TRAVIS: It would've
been great to have had
my vitals and all that
being recorded
when the dosimeter went off,
and said I was exposed
to radiation.
SEGALA:
There is something going on.
It seems to emanate
from the ground.
How can we learn more about it?
TRAVIS: That's what I want
to know-how can we get
a really deep core sample?
Like, like, can we dig really,
really, really deep?
BRYANT:
How do you feel about
doing that digging, though, or
would you want to hire somebody?
Because even when
we did the core drilling,
you know, you chose
to position yourself away.
And you're the one
that has suffered
the ramifications of the digging
and this goes way back
to what we talked about
when we first began
this exercise.
I don't want to put you
in harm's way.
YANT: How do you feel
about doing that digging?
I don't want to put you
in harm's way.
I don't want you to feel like
you're pushed into that.
THOMAS:
Well, the points
that we identified
are not that deep.
They're not that far down.
15, 20 feet is not a big deal.
I'm just gonna wear
my tinfoil hard hat.
(laughter)
THOMAS: I do have a
lot of people around me
that think, without a doubt,
my injury was tied
to the digging.
Well, it's not conclusive
that it was the digging.
So that's why there's
part of me that said,
"Yeah, I would,
I'd just be very cautious."
I have a question
for you guys, though.
For the first time since
you've owned the ranch,
this is the largest group
of people to be on that ranch.
And I know, you know, you were,
you were giving me
a hard time at the beginning
'cause you said it's almost like
you guys talk as if
this ranch has a personality.
Because we talked about
how when you introduce
- It responds, yeah.
- somebody new, the ranch responds.
- It's not a person. - It's a place,
it's not a, it's not a, an entity.
But it responded.
- Yeah.
- I have to tell you guys,
when Brandon
first invited me in,
the first day I came in here,
I honestly didn't know
what to expect.
But I didn't think
you guys were really onto
what you were onto
because I don't believe
99% of the things that people
claim they've seen, right?
I think this is
in that one percent
of the unexplainable weirdness-
the "what is it?"
And now we've
got indisputable evidence
that there is a real phenomenon
that's happening
that is unexplainable.
Whatever you want to call it.
High strangeness?
It's real and it's there.
And I think the ramifications
of it is world-changing.
Agreed.
And I'll tell you
what I told you
when we started
on this adventure.
I truly believe
now more than ever,
if this ranch can help us
better understand
the nature of the universe,
and perhaps confirm
that we're not alone,
this will indeed be
the greatest science project
and endeavor of all time.
- Right.
- And
as we move forward
and take next steps,
we appreciate you coming in
and spending the time.
Well, you have
my personal interest, Brandon.
And I just want to make sure
you all understand,
I take this very seriously.
And so, as you all continue
to validate, replicate, uh
and investigate, uh, even more,
I am anxious to see
what the next step brings.
And I think that
only helps the entire state.
- So thanks very much.
- Thank you very much.
- We appreciate that endorsement.
- BRANDON: Thank you.
We'll continue
to keep you informed,
as to what we continue
to observe.
And, ultimately, what we
discover as we move forward.
- Let's go.
- BRANDON: Thank you, gentlemen.
Great, looking forward to it.
BRANDON: Given the extraordinary
events that have been observed
and recorded over
the last several months,
I believe that we
have a responsibility
to take this forward
in a, in a more
aggressive fashion.
It's not a matter of if
something is going to happen.
It's a matter of when
that will happen
and if we are truly prepared.
- There it is!
- There it is again.
It is clearly a beam.
SEGALA:
This was an amazing summer.
Ignition!
I think the pinnacle
was that we actually saw UFOs.
- Look, look, look!
- What is that?
Now that we know
exactly what they look like
in the sky, we can start
tracking these things.
We can actually set up a system
that can communicate with them
in some regard,
by sending them signals
to see if they respond.
- There it is again!
- SEGALA: That would be
the next step in this
evolution of trying
to figure out
what they are doing here,
and why they picked this ranch
or this area to do it.
BRYANT:
When I first came to the ranch,
I was kind of an agnostic,
when it came to the place.
It's not that I didn't believe
that things were happening,
but they sounded pretty amazing
and outlandish to me.
Oh-oh, right here, over here!
- Right there.
- That's it.
But after experiencing
what I did this summer,
there's no doubt in my mind
that there's a phenomenon
or something taking place there
that has completely
shaken my understanding
on what reality really is.
You got to see a UFO, dude.
Dumbfounded, yeah, it's crazy.
As we move forward,
I think that we could really
uncover something that could
make people like myself
see the world differently.
Tom, you all right?
Well, let's get you
the heck out of here, man.
THOMAS:
Well, as they say,
we've opened up a can.
And we have just begun
to scratch the surface
of what's happening here.
For every answer that we're
getting in our investigation,
we're creating
ten more questions.
What in the world?
It's just dead.
THOMAS:
And who knows
what crazy and amazing
things are in store.
- Audio beacon is on.
- Let it rip.
Ain't that cool.
It's absolutely inconceivable
- Oh!
- the amount of things
that we experienced and saw
and measured over the summer.
This looks like there's
something a thousand feet long.
We have indisputable proof that
there is an unusual phenomenon
that is not a normal occurrence.
I'm excited about it.
I can't wait to go back
and do more experiments.
I can't wait to see
what is out there.
Skinwalker Ranch may hold
secrets to the universe
that we've yet to uncover.
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