Between the Lines (1992) s02e02 Episode Script
Manslaughter
Yeah? Hello.
Chief.
Hi Sorry.
Yeah, it's David Lindsay, sir.
what's happened? I'm sorry to call at this time, sir, but I've had a row, sir.
- what kind of row? - with my wife.
David? - She's dead.
- what? - David? - I've killed her, sir.
Now, look, David, this is an accident.
Yeah Yes, sir.
No, sir.
No.
Yes, sir.
Yes.
Yes, thank you, sir.
Dead wife.
Detective Superintendent who? David Lindsay.
All right.
Yeah, I got it.
Bye.
Erm I'm sorry, but I'm afraid you're gonna have to get up, Caroline.
Lyn.
- Lyn? - Carolyn, not Caroline.
- Carolyn.
- I'm sorry.
I meant Carolyn.
There's been an emergency.
Thanks, love.
I'm sorry.
were those her children? Yeah, that was her sister came to collect them.
Right.
Can I help you? Detective Superintendent Clark, Complaints Investigation Bureau.
Detective Chief Superintendent Powers, Area Major Investigation Pool.
- we seem to be double-booked.
- we do.
- what's Graves? - Er, memory six.
At least we get the pleasure of waking him up.
Er, sir, I'm sorry to wake you.
Oh, were you? Sir, would you have a word with my boss? Hello.
Yes? He was up.
Lindsay was off duty.
That means it's not CIB, it's our business.
- well, I've already - Oh, you did? And what did he say? And their opinion is that Detective Superintendent Clark I see.
Yes.
OK.
- Cocky sod.
- Mm.
Your boss and mine have been getting up each other's noses.
- who got the bogey? - You did.
I'm off to bed.
Now, look, he's one of my men.
And he's a good bloke.
You won't make this any more unpleasant than it already is, will you? we shall display the tact and sensibility for which CIB is renowned, sir.
I was afraid of that.
- Sir? - Yeah? Did he say anything? March 8th, 0140 hours, he said, "we had a row.
She taunted me, she was shouting.
"I don't know what I don't know why I did it.
"I went mad and killed her.
"I'm sorry.
Oh, God, I'm so sorry.
I wish " At this point I cautioned and arrested him.
And you are Detective Constable Minten, sir.
Exhibits Officer.
what have you got? The remains of a plant bowI used to smash the TV.
Coffee-stained cushion, smashed coffee mug.
Plates, cutlery from TV dinner.
Two glasses.
Radio Times.
Coffee and blood stains.
- Anything else? - Yes.
Erm - Gin bottle.
In washing machine.
- Someone had a drink problem.
Couldn't tell the difference between a fridge and a washing machine.
No, sir, I think someone was hiding it in there.
Oh, really? There's also some empties in a carrier bag out the back.
we're just looking for things to do.
These guys can finish up here.
One of us should go to Fleet Road nick and tell Lindsay what's going on.
I should get back to bed so which one of you volunteers? Mo.
we'll interview him at 11am, so be sure his solicitor's been notified.
- He has.
- Good.
- How is he? - He's pretty choked.
Choked but asleep.
- Good night, then.
- Good night.
Clark.
Sir.
- How did it go? - All right.
I'll interview and charge him this morning.
- Good.
- I wasn't sure why we were called in.
The PCA wanted us to supervise it.
- How did they know about it at 2am? - I told them.
- Morning, Clark.
- Morning, sir.
David, erm Mr Squeaky Bloody Clean, Mr Mr Graves? Mr Bloody Keen Machine rang the PCA at 2am to volunteer us for that job.
As if there isn't enough proper CIB stuff to deal with.
what the bloody hell is all this anyway? It's bloody Argyle Street, guv.
Questionable expenses, overtime scams, that sort of thing.
There's over a hundred bloody officers.
Thousands of notebooks.
Custody records, accident reports, duty stats.
- who's doing it? - well, whoever finishes first.
Right, Harry, the Lindsay case.
Leave no stone unturned.
My thoughts entirely, guv.
Clark? Hello? Tony? Tony, there's something I meant to ask you.
- we are terribly busy, sir.
what is it? - It's a personal matter.
- would you like me to leave? - No, it's all right, Harry.
Go on, sir.
we have no secrets.
well, it's apropos of your housing allowance.
I needed to clarify your matrimonial positions for the records.
I am separated and will be getting divorced.
And are you cohabiting? - No, we're separated.
- I mean with anyone else.
- Are you sure you wouldn't? - Harry, will you stay? I am not cohabiting.
None of this has any bearing on my allowance.
- why are you asking? - It was the commander.
He wants everyone's personal details up to date for the records.
- I'll inform you of any developments.
- Thank you.
Dawn was we were meant to be going out for dinner.
To the Kings', friends of ours.
But when I got home she was I don't know Depressed is what I've been calling it.
- what time did you get home? - About seven.
The kids were fighting.
She was sitting slumped in front of the TV.
Sort of glazed.
You said you call it depressed.
Does that mean she'd been like it a while? Yes.
I er I dealt with a case six or seven months ago.
A woman a girl was sexually assaulted and murdered.
- Disembowelled.
- Kentish Town.
Yes.
I erm It had an effect on me.
we haven't had sexual relations more or less since then.
- Not once? - Maybe two or three times in six months.
She was very understanding at first, very patient.
But then the last couple of months have been difficult.
Er she was distant.
Sometimes she would drink, get depressed.
Sometimes she would get angry.
- And last night? - The lot.
Tell us what happened.
when I came in she didn't even move.
The kids hadn't eaten and we were meant to be going out.
- were you angry? - No.
But I was worried about her.
She was like a ghost.
So I fed the kids and called the Kings to tell them we wouldn't be coming.
- Did you tell them why? - No, not exactly.
I said Dawn was fluey.
It was a bit embarrassing.
we'd cancelled before.
Same reason? we were meant to have dinner on Valentine's night.
So you fed your kids, you phoned your friends, then what? Gave them a bath, put them to bed.
what was your wife doing? She never left her chair all evening.
Very calm, cool-headed.
A very private man.
- Popular? - He's neither popular nor unpopular.
Hard-working.
Meticulous.
Ambitious.
He's a bit of a cold fish, I suppose.
- Friends? - No.
Not really.
Not here.
- Crumpet man? - No.
Not like your boss.
Dawn had a gin bottle out beside her.
It wasn't normal.
She wouldn't have a bottle out when the kids were around.
So I thought we might be in for a real bender.
what did you do? I said we should talk.
what time was this? Oh, I suppose about 8:30, nine o'clock.
Yeah.
I was bringing in some glasses when the Nine O'Clock News came on.
- You both had a drink? - I thought it might help if I had one too.
- And you talked? - Yeah, in fits and starts.
TV still on? Yeah, that's right.
we had all the old stuff.
My mother.
Money.
Her mother.
Other women? No.
Not that.
She accused me of being married to the job.
- Is that true? - You know.
we talked a bit, watched TV.
Sometime after ten I fixed her some dinner.
A bit after that I took the bottle away.
I didn't want her getting drunk.
A bit silly, really, but I hid it.
In the washing machine.
Did you taking the bottle away make her angry? No, not any more than she'd been the rest of the evening.
She got angrier later when I began to nod off.
Said it showed I didn't care, even though we'd been talking all evening.
This was when? I don't know.
After midnight.
I said we were crazy.
we were both exhausted.
we were getting nowhere.
Shouldn't we get to bed? Then? Then she started.
"what's the point of going to bed with you?" Shouting, screaming.
She was saying we were a sham, that all I wanted to do was sit in front of the TV.
She picked up this heavy plant bowI and threw it at the TV, smashed the whole bloody thing.
Screaming.
I said something about waking the kids.
She said, "Sod the kids.
" I mean it wasn't her.
She was getting wild.
She threw the broken plant bowI at me, cut me.
I shouted at her.
I grabbed her.
I hadn't heard her for a while and I realised she was saying she had a lover.
Twice the man I was.
The noise.
The noise of her voice and her face.
The things she was saying.
And she wouldn't be quiet.
She wouldn't shut up.
She wouldn't stop.
It wouldn't stop.
Coffee? Interview terminated at, er 11:21.
I can just hear the judge.
"Yes, Mr Lindsay, wives can be terribly irritating.
Six months suspended.
" I'd give him 15 years and castrate him.
- He'll go down.
- He'll get two and a half years maximum.
Manslaughter, diminished responsibility.
You have a row, you strangle your wife, you get the same sentence as you would for shoplifting.
well, it's the same for a woman.
You mean that, don't you? Of course.
A woman kills her husband in a row, it's the same.
There's one small difference.
How is someone like Dawn meant to strangle a wiry bugger like him? well, she isn't.
Sorry.
Go on.
- No, I don't think I should.
- Go on.
A man's strength is his murder weapon.
A woman would have to go and get a knife and come back to the row.
Those few seconds can be the difference between diminished responsibility and murder.
She would get 15 years but because he just got on with it, he could walk.
Do you realise that? That bastard could just walk out of court.
How did you get on with Graves? when I was acting chief super and you, he and Harry were a team.
Fine.
He was OK.
Do you think it's all right for a man to strangle his wife? No, of course it's not all right.
It's not that surprising either.
where's the ketchup? Guv.
- This is the disembowelment case.
- Oh.
It's pretty grim.
And this is interesting.
It's an old case of Lindsay's from about five years back.
Domestic murder.
Man strangled his wife in marital dispute.
Manslaughter, diminished responsibility.
Served 18 months.
Oh, Jesus.
Mo, I should think Lindsay dealt with 30 or 40 murders during his time with AMIP.
Mightn't that have influenced him? Possibly, but it's not our problem.
The lawyers and shrinks will have a bit of fun with it.
The press bureau want to put out a statement on Lindsay.
Um wife found dead, suspicious circumstances, Lindsay helping with inquiries.
- we put that out this morning.
- That's it.
- Haven't you charged him? - No.
- why not? - If I do I can't speak to him again.
I think I may want to, sir.
I want you on the Argyle Street expenses.
Sorry, guv, can't do it.
Got too much to do on Lindsay.
Still waiting for forensics and we've found out it could be a copycat killing.
He was involved in a similar investigation five years ago.
His wife had told him she was having an affair.
- why wouldn't he just divorce her? - That's what we're trying to find out.
All right, but don't go tilting at windmills, Anthony.
Understood? Right.
we are gonna drag out this inquiry longer than west Midlands.
- Bit hard on Lindsay, guv.
- Bugger Lindsay.
Let him sweat.
Harry.
what was Graves's last nick before here? we've got to get some dirt on him.
women, drink, Masons.
You're playing with fire there, guv.
Harry, I have always checked out my bosses.
Haven't you? You bastard.
Oh, thanks, Bill.
It's all right, sir.
All part of the service.
- Are you busy? - No, nice and quiet.
I'll be going out in a while.
Is there anything you need? No, I don't think so.
Thanks.
Tell you what I would like.
A photograph of my kids, if possible.
And my wife.
I'll have a word with Mr Clark.
Shouldn't be a problem.
Thanks.
- Do you know Clark? - No, sir.
I was wondering if he was a bit of a stickler.
- I'm surprised he hasn't charged me yet.
- Yeah, odd, that.
If he hasn't by tonight I'll have to get a 12-hour extension from my guv'nor.
- If I hear what they're up to, I'll um - I'd appreciate that, Bill.
- It'll go no further than this room.
- All right.
That's done, then.
we didn't get on before he was promoted, sir.
It would be best for the unit if I was transferred.
I want you to suck it and see for a while, Tony.
I don't understand how he came to leapfrog me.
It can't be results.
I've a very good record at CIB, second to none.
True.
- Private life.
- No.
You work well with people you like but not with people you don't.
There's a lesson to be learnt.
That's why David Graves pipped you.
And that's why you're gonna stay here and get on with your job.
OK? An affair? No.
Absolutely not.
How can you be sure? Aside from the fact that it just wasn't her, when would she get the time? Breakfast, kids to school, teaching all day, dash home, cook the dinner.
when? Certain jobs offer the opportunity for extra-marital excursions.
Teaching really isn't one of them.
How was she in terms of mood and behaviour? Stressed.
Not really with us.
- Had she always been like that? - No.
That was the last term or so.
- Friends? - Not really.
Her sister.
Basically she just lived for her husband and her children.
The doctor wasn't prepared to discuss Lindsay without his permission.
She said Dawn was worried about their relationship and was depressed.
I got the same from the neighbours.
Dawn was quiet and withdrawn.
Did you see the people they were meant to be having dinner with? Yeah, same again.
David's a saint keeping the home fires burning while she slips into depression.
It was the third time he'd cancelled dinner at short notice.
They were meant to go Valentine's day.
He phoned up to say that Dawn was too tired.
They were meant to be there a week later, he said she had a migraine.
Do you want to go in and get things started? I'll join you in a minute.
I've got some calls to make.
The sister's in this annexe by the garage.
- Still living with her mother? - I sometimes wish I was.
I'll take that.
Erm, I thought you had given up.
I have.
Naylor.
- It's me.
- Oh, hello, guv.
- Busy? - Oh, yeah, I'm rushed off my feet here.
OK.
I checked all the credit cards and that stuff.
Nothing untoward there.
Fleet Road want to know if he can have a photograph of his wife and kids.
Mrs Myles has got the keys and your two mates rang.
The ones who are checking out Graves.
- They found anything? - Nothing they want to tell me.
Thanks, Harry.
- Er, guv? - Yeah.
- Is Mo with you? - Yeah.
- Is she OK? - Yeah.
why? No, nothing, nothing.
No.
I'll see you.
I'm sorry.
It may seem pretty cut and dried but it is important, especially as he's a police officer, that the whole thing's properly investigated.
we do understand that it must be very painful for you.
would you like us to come another day? No.
It's all right.
I'm sorry.
- I'm sorry too.
- Thank you.
Erm no.
Dawn wouldn't have an affair.
She was She was so devoted to the children.
Oh, God.
why? Don't worry.
Don't worry.
we'll leave it for now.
0140 hours, he said, "we had a row.
She taunted me, she was shouting.
"I don't know what I don't know why I did it.
"I went mad and killed her.
"I'm sorry.
Oh, God, I'm so sorry.
" we were meant to be going out for dinner on Valentine's night.
Meant to have dinner with the Kings Valentine's day.
Dawn too tired.
Should have been there a week later.
Dawn had migraine.
Third dinner date March 7th.
Dawn dead.
Yeah.
Thanks.
Sergeant, I've brought Mr Lindsay's photo.
- Thank you, sir.
You can go through.
- Thanks.
He's up for review at 2am, sir.
Thanks.
I'm putting in for an extension.
I'll er leave the glass with you.
Righto.
He seems to be bearing up, mind you.
I don't think he'll go topping himself or anything.
will you be charging him tomorrow, sir? Maybe.
- Hello, David.
- Hi, Tony.
I brought your photo.
Thanks.
Everything all right, then? Yeah.
Better than I deserve.
This is putting a lot of people through pain and trouble.
Don't worry, mate.
we'll sort it out.
would you give me your consent to talk to your doctor? Yeah.
Of course.
I won't be able to speak to her till the morning.
Your review is tonight.
I'm putting in for a 12-hour extension.
Is that all right with you or will you be making representations? No.
That's all right.
Thanks.
- Good night, then.
- Good night.
Good night.
Good night, sir.
You all right, sir? who is it? Me.
- Hi, Mo.
- Hiya, guv.
what you doing here? - I did come to talk about work but - But? I got a bottle of wine and you're half-naked and And this is Richard.
- Hello.
- Hello.
we've got a bottle of Frascati in the fridge, haven't we, darling? That'll be cold.
- I'll just go and get dressed.
- Right.
There were signals in the interview, Lindsay's body language, but it was the calendar that woke me up - no mention of the dinner dates.
- Thanks.
I'm sorry to break in like this.
- No problems.
Er, no, thanks.
I think it was Graves that distracted me.
Lindsay's doing it very well but he's lying his balls off.
- Eureka.
- You feel the same? It's more primitive with me.
My instinct isn't that he's lying or guilty of something else.
I just hate him for what he's done.
If he's lying, what's he lying about? Maybe he was up to something.
Maybe he was OTS, not his wife.
- what's OTS? - Unfaithful.
Over the side.
Otherwise known as "out taking statements".
- Now we've got something to look for.
- what, you mean his BOS? Bit On the Side.
who he was being OTS with.
I mean, maybe she was a wPC with the CID or Ml5 or the DPP.
- Richard, are you all right? - Actually I'm not, no.
I'm going to be made redundant this week.
OOw.
- why didn't you say? - I haven't really had a chance, have I? I'm sorry, I've come at a bad time.
No, I have.
I'll see you tomorrow.
Better make it eight.
I'm sorry, Richard.
Nice meeting you.
Guv.
Harry, erm, have you met Mo's bloke? Richard.
- Oh, you have? - Yeah.
- well, what's he You know - Architect.
- No, I mean what's going on? - Don't ask me, guv Guv, listen to this.
- "I couldn't stop the noise of her voice.
" - what about it? It's from a statement Lindsay took from that bloke who killed his wife.
This is Lindsay's.
"The noise of her voice and her face I couldn't stop the noise of her voice.
" - Jesus.
- well done, Mo.
- Do we interview him again? - No.
I want the motive.
I want to know all I can.
If he knows we're onto him, he'll shut up shop.
- Six hours and counting.
- Let's get going.
we should look out of town.
It's the most likely place we can catch him being OTS.
Yeah.
Harry, what was his last job away? - Progress? - Yes, sir.
- Henley, two months ago.
- we have a case developing.
- what have you got? - Mo and I are off to Henley, sir.
- Mo, will you get the car? - Uh-huh.
Sir.
Harry'll take you through what we've got.
Clark, the commander is adamant that we get on to the Argyle Street expenses! They checked in as Mr and Mrs Lindsay.
- Children? - No.
- Do you remember him? - Oh, yes.
He was investigating that armed robbery.
- One of your chaps died, didn't he? - Yes.
This is a photo of his wife.
Is this the woman who was with him? I don't know.
She kept herself to herself.
- But you did see her? - I may have done.
But I'm sure Anna did.
This is very good.
This definitely has the feel of a dirty weekend about it.
- Does it? - Yes.
Ah, will you come this way? This is Anna.
Hello.
Do you remember the policeman who investigated the armed robbery? Yes.
Do you remember what his wife looked like? Yes.
She was blonde and thin.
- Yes, that's her.
- Damn.
- I'm sorry.
- No, you've been very kind.
Thank you.
- And you, sir.
- Thank you.
Goodbye.
Four hours and 33 minutes before I have to charge him.
Let's hope Forensics come up with something.
No, drawn a blank.
we're off to talk to Dawn's mother.
Should be back by one.
OK, I'll ask him.
Harry's wife's pranged the car.
He asked if he could go home.
Oh, God.
well, I suppose nothing's happening.
Harry? Yeah, that's OK.
It's a bit tasteless, Harry.
- what did he say? - "If she's written it off, I'll strangle her.
" She'd surprised me a bit.
She's completely moved woods.
It's taken me a couple of days to find her.
I'm glad I have.
Sniffing her way all the way down that trunk.
Most of the hazel's down off the bushes now, onto the ground.
They were childhood sweethearts.
Doted on each other.
I think she set her sights on him and that was that.
- She was a strong character? - Oh, yes.
At times like this, she'd be the one to hold us all together.
- And your husband? - He died when Gayle was four.
- I'm sorry.
- That's why Dawn had to be so strong.
She was 15.
- And she knew David already? - Yes.
He was a great help too.
Such a kind-mannered man.
I don't know how it happened.
But one shouldn't be surprised.
Things like this happen all the time.
Life can be very hard for people.
Do you feel bitter towards David? No.
Sad.
Heartbroken for the children.
And Gayle.
And me.
Can I come through and get a cloth? Christian's spilt his Coke.
- Please, go through.
- Sorry.
Oh, don't worry, darling.
I think you've told us all we need to know, Mrs Myles.
we'll be off now.
Erm, Gayle, did either of them ask you to baby-sit the night it happened? I don't remember.
I don't think so, no.
I'll do it, darling.
They were meant to be going out to dinner.
well, they quite often phone me at the last minute.
I'm always in.
- Did they have another baby-sitter? - No.
Dawn wouldn't leave them with anyone else but me.
Same if they went away overnight and left the children? They never did.
Dawn would never spend a night away from the children.
Oh.
what about when they went to Henley? He drove me home from baby-sitting.
we made love in the hall the first time.
It was six months ago.
I've always loved him, ever since I was a little girl.
He's always loved me.
we both loved Dawn.
we never wanted to hurt her.
- Did he ever mention killing her? - No.
what are you talking about? It was a row.
He wouldn't kill her.
He loved her.
There's no need to go overboard, love.
You're not hurt, the car'll mend.
what's the problem? That's not what really worries me.
I didn't know which was the accelerator, which was the brake.
I didn't know how to turn the wheel to make it go right.
- Very frightening.
- Yeah.
Yeah, I can imagine.
- I'm getting so clumsy.
- well, it's old age, innit? Neither of us is getting any younger.
I don't want to get old.
I don't want you to go off me and run off with some bimbo.
Oh, get off.
There's never been anyone else but you.
You know that.
Never will be.
You're serious crumpet.
Do you mean that? - will you still love me - # when I'm sixty-four # Boo-ba-doo-ba-doo # will you still be sending me a valentine # Birthday greetings, bottle of wine? # If I stay up till quarter to three # will you lock the door? # Gayle, if you wouldn't mind waiting here.
Maureen will bring you some coffee.
It's vital that Lindsay and anyone who may talk to him doesn't know she's here.
- Have you got an empty office? - Yeah, next to the custody suite, sir.
Take a full statement from her and make three copies.
Do we think she's an accomplice? I don't think she could lie to save her life.
But she's given us proof Lindsay's lied and a motive for premeditated murder.
I wonder if she has.
He kills Dawn, Gayle gets the kids, he gets Gayle.
After he's killed her sister? She'd run a mile.
No.
He has visiting rights to the children.
She has always been in love with him.
She would forgive him, take him back.
Less than two hours to go.
If I can't get back to CIB I'll get Harry to bring the stuff over here.
- Remember he'll be coming from home.
- Oh, shit.
He's gonna have to go to the postmortem.
we're all tied up.
This is a bloody shambles.
- I hear you've got an empty office spare.
- Er, yes, sir.
They're here, sir.
Mo, it's ten past one.
Try and get a statement out of her by two.
I know, but try.
Is Harry not here yet? I've sent her home.
I got everything you wanted.
- Anything new? - No.
Oh, thank God.
what you got? Death by strangulation.
About the time that Lindsay said.
Blood alcohol levels consistent with two or three small gins but not with someone who'd been drinking heavily over recent days.
- Anything else? - Yeah.
She had a Dutch cap in.
- Semen? - No.
Oh, for Christ's sake.
we're going round in circles.
was she going to see a lover later? Harry, all the stuff from CIB - Lindsay's first interview, the calendar, all that.
It's on its way.
This is a bloody joke.
I haven't got any papers and I don't have any time.
Anything useful? Someone called Tim says he has discovered that Graves is a member of the Ealing Gilbert And Sullivan Society.
Is this the breakthrough we have all been waiting for? - Harry.
- Oh, yeah, guv.
I forgot.
- Graves wishes you good luck.
- Does he? All right, guv, let's have a look at what we've got.
Calendar.
No entries for the three meals but entries for just about every other event in their lives.
Alcohol.
Forensics say she'd been drinking but not as heavily as Lindsay suggested.
And we've got a motive.
- He was screwing his wife's kid sister.
- Yeah.
Anything else? well, it's all circumstantial, innit? None of this proves that Lindsay premeditatedly planned his wife's death.
It might convince us but it's not gonna get a conviction, is it? Unless we get a confession out of him, we've got sod all.
Thank you, Harry.
Guv.
The cap.
The Dutch cap.
I think they're ready to charge you now, sir.
Sir? Sir, I've brought the papers.
Thank you.
Remember, you've got just under 30 minutes.
He has to be charged before 14:47.
Thank you, Sergeant.
- If you don't mind, I'll do this with Harry.
- I do mind, sir.
You're too wound up.
You could be a liability.
when he sniffs we're onto him, he'll clam up.
Guv, I am OK.
All right? All right, but keep calm.
He's got to think we're on his side.
Hello, David.
Sorry to drag you back.
As you can imagine, this had a bit of a profile.
- The powers that be, the press.
- I understand.
- would you like tea, coffee? - Coffee.
Harry, would you grab the sergeant? Recorded interview, March 9th, I'm Detective Superintendent Anthony Clark.
Also present Detective Sergeant Maureen Connell.
- Can you identify yourself, please? - David Lindsay.
- And? - David Thomas.
Mr Lindsay's solicitor.
You don't have to say anything unless you wish to do so but what you say may be given in evidence.
I would like to put on record our thanks to Detective Superintendent Lindsay for allowing a 12-hour extension to his detention without making representations.
All right.
Let's take them in order.
To the best of your knowledge, did you or Dawn have financial worries? Er, no.
The domestic budget - mortgage and so on - is always a trial, but no.
To be honest, Dawn's family her mother, I mean, has well, she's not rich, but she would bail us out if it got too tight.
- Has she done that in the past? - Not exactly.
If we are getting a new car she'll chuck in a thousand quid to get a better one.
So you don't owe her or anyone else any money? - No.
- All right.
That's that one.
Sorry, this is a little more intimate.
Had you had sexual relations recently with Dawn? The last time was a couple of weeks ago.
- Initiated by whom? - Me, I believe.
I'd been feeling slightly warmer towards Dawn but she was still very tense, very unhappy.
I understand.
You were therefore the more affectionate of the two of you? I was.
when was the last time Dawn tried to initiate sexual intercourse? weeks, maybe months ago.
I believe you said during the first interview that your wife had taunted you about taking a lover.
Having had time to reflect, do you still believe there was no lover? Yes, I still feel it unlikely that Dawn had a lover.
So we can say that as neither of you was sexually involved with any other person, that this was a personal emotional breakdown triggered by the Kentish Town murder? - Yes.
- Right.
were you adversely affected by any other murders you've investigated? well, they all have an effect, I suppose.
- Anything in particular come to mind? - No.
Right.
Any idea how many murders you've dealt with? No.
Erm, maybe 40, I don't know.
OK.
Right.
what sort of contraception did you and Dawn use? A cap.
A Dutch cap.
- where did your wife keep the cap? - In her dressing table.
- In a drawer? - Yes.
How much was Dawn drinking in the last few weeks? Erm Er - I suppose, er - The superintendent's coffee, sir.
The custody sergeant has brought coffee for Superintendent Lindsay.
I asked you how much you would say your wife was drinking recently.
It varied.
The last few days she'd cut back.
I think that may have been why she was so tense.
So tense Dawn never left her seat all evening? No.
- To go to the toilet? - Oh, yes.
Maybe.
- But not to go upstairs? - No.
Right.
Now, we've been talking to your sister-in-law Gayle.
She said she wasn't booked to baby-sit that night you killed Dawn.
You were meant to be going to the Kings' for dinner.
Dawn was meant to book her.
She she probably forgot.
Maybe that was because she hadn't marked it down on her diary.
- She did know about the dinner? - Oh, yes, of course.
She must have forgotten to put it in her diary.
On her diary.
wall diary, in the kitchen.
There's also no mention on that diary, or calendar, whatever, of the other two dinners you were meant to be having with the Kings.
Forgetfulness.
- She did know about the dinner dates? - Oh, yes.
Did Gayle once have a boyfriend called Darren? I'm not sure I understand the point of the question.
He brought her home one night on his bike when you and Dawn were there.
You told him to leave her alone or you'd break his legs.
Is that right? No comment.
Fair enough.
I'm just trying to see if you feel you're a passionate, protective man.
All right, I'll just read this out.
"I couldn't stop the noise of her voice.
" - Have you heard that before? - Yes.
- when? - I said it.
when I made that statement the day after.
The day I killed Dawn.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry for what I've done.
No.
No, David, you didn't say it.
It was actually said to you in a statement by Richard Savatovsky five years ago.
I just wondered if you recognised it.
Detective Superintendent Lindsay is whispering to his solicitor.
I have nothing further to say at this time.
I have the legal duty to let you hear some of the evidence against you.
Perhaps it will give you the chance to offer us some simple explanations.
I have handed Superintendent Lindsay a copy of a statement given to us by Gayle Myles at Fleet Road police station earlier today.
As you decline to pick it up, I will read the relevant piece or pieces.
"we first made love on 28th August.
"David drove me home.
I'd been baby-sitting.
"we sat in the car.
we knew what was going on but didn't want it to happen.
"I got out of the car but he didn't drive away.
He got out too.
"I went inside, he followed.
"we made love there in the hall.
"He said it would be all right.
"I'm sorry.
Dawn, I'm sorry.
" There seems to be a contradiction.
Gayle says you and she were having a passionate love affair.
She refers to several occasions of lovemaking when you say you were having sex with nobody, not even your wife.
Is there a simple explanation? Dawn always thought of you as Gayle's surrogate father, didn't she? In fact, I think Gayle has always seen you as a father figure.
Is that fair? You're 13 years older than her.
when you first met her she was four years old.
You were 17.
we believe that last night with Dawn was not as chilly and relentlessly antagonistic as you've suggested.
we believe, and hope you can help us here we believe that when you came home early and put the children to bed, Dawn was thrilled.
Dawn had endured some very lonely months.
That night, however, you were helpful.
You made her dinner, you brought her a drink, were kind Do you know what she did? She put her cap in for you.
Superintendent Lindsay declines to pick up the forensic report.
The report shows, from the breakdown of spermicidal cream, that the cap had been fitted Can you explain that? Because it seems to me that Dawn, this woman you say was drinking heavily, this woman you say was ignoring her kids, this woman you say was taunting you with her lover, that this woman Dawn, your wife and the mother of your children, wanted to make love with you that night.
I have no further comment to make at this time.
- It's all right, Mo.
- It is not all right! It is not all right!
Chief.
Hi Sorry.
Yeah, it's David Lindsay, sir.
what's happened? I'm sorry to call at this time, sir, but I've had a row, sir.
- what kind of row? - with my wife.
David? - She's dead.
- what? - David? - I've killed her, sir.
Now, look, David, this is an accident.
Yeah Yes, sir.
No, sir.
No.
Yes, sir.
Yes.
Yes, thank you, sir.
Dead wife.
Detective Superintendent who? David Lindsay.
All right.
Yeah, I got it.
Bye.
Erm I'm sorry, but I'm afraid you're gonna have to get up, Caroline.
Lyn.
- Lyn? - Carolyn, not Caroline.
- Carolyn.
- I'm sorry.
I meant Carolyn.
There's been an emergency.
Thanks, love.
I'm sorry.
were those her children? Yeah, that was her sister came to collect them.
Right.
Can I help you? Detective Superintendent Clark, Complaints Investigation Bureau.
Detective Chief Superintendent Powers, Area Major Investigation Pool.
- we seem to be double-booked.
- we do.
- what's Graves? - Er, memory six.
At least we get the pleasure of waking him up.
Er, sir, I'm sorry to wake you.
Oh, were you? Sir, would you have a word with my boss? Hello.
Yes? He was up.
Lindsay was off duty.
That means it's not CIB, it's our business.
- well, I've already - Oh, you did? And what did he say? And their opinion is that Detective Superintendent Clark I see.
Yes.
OK.
- Cocky sod.
- Mm.
Your boss and mine have been getting up each other's noses.
- who got the bogey? - You did.
I'm off to bed.
Now, look, he's one of my men.
And he's a good bloke.
You won't make this any more unpleasant than it already is, will you? we shall display the tact and sensibility for which CIB is renowned, sir.
I was afraid of that.
- Sir? - Yeah? Did he say anything? March 8th, 0140 hours, he said, "we had a row.
She taunted me, she was shouting.
"I don't know what I don't know why I did it.
"I went mad and killed her.
"I'm sorry.
Oh, God, I'm so sorry.
I wish " At this point I cautioned and arrested him.
And you are Detective Constable Minten, sir.
Exhibits Officer.
what have you got? The remains of a plant bowI used to smash the TV.
Coffee-stained cushion, smashed coffee mug.
Plates, cutlery from TV dinner.
Two glasses.
Radio Times.
Coffee and blood stains.
- Anything else? - Yes.
Erm - Gin bottle.
In washing machine.
- Someone had a drink problem.
Couldn't tell the difference between a fridge and a washing machine.
No, sir, I think someone was hiding it in there.
Oh, really? There's also some empties in a carrier bag out the back.
we're just looking for things to do.
These guys can finish up here.
One of us should go to Fleet Road nick and tell Lindsay what's going on.
I should get back to bed so which one of you volunteers? Mo.
we'll interview him at 11am, so be sure his solicitor's been notified.
- He has.
- Good.
- How is he? - He's pretty choked.
Choked but asleep.
- Good night, then.
- Good night.
Clark.
Sir.
- How did it go? - All right.
I'll interview and charge him this morning.
- Good.
- I wasn't sure why we were called in.
The PCA wanted us to supervise it.
- How did they know about it at 2am? - I told them.
- Morning, Clark.
- Morning, sir.
David, erm Mr Squeaky Bloody Clean, Mr Mr Graves? Mr Bloody Keen Machine rang the PCA at 2am to volunteer us for that job.
As if there isn't enough proper CIB stuff to deal with.
what the bloody hell is all this anyway? It's bloody Argyle Street, guv.
Questionable expenses, overtime scams, that sort of thing.
There's over a hundred bloody officers.
Thousands of notebooks.
Custody records, accident reports, duty stats.
- who's doing it? - well, whoever finishes first.
Right, Harry, the Lindsay case.
Leave no stone unturned.
My thoughts entirely, guv.
Clark? Hello? Tony? Tony, there's something I meant to ask you.
- we are terribly busy, sir.
what is it? - It's a personal matter.
- would you like me to leave? - No, it's all right, Harry.
Go on, sir.
we have no secrets.
well, it's apropos of your housing allowance.
I needed to clarify your matrimonial positions for the records.
I am separated and will be getting divorced.
And are you cohabiting? - No, we're separated.
- I mean with anyone else.
- Are you sure you wouldn't? - Harry, will you stay? I am not cohabiting.
None of this has any bearing on my allowance.
- why are you asking? - It was the commander.
He wants everyone's personal details up to date for the records.
- I'll inform you of any developments.
- Thank you.
Dawn was we were meant to be going out for dinner.
To the Kings', friends of ours.
But when I got home she was I don't know Depressed is what I've been calling it.
- what time did you get home? - About seven.
The kids were fighting.
She was sitting slumped in front of the TV.
Sort of glazed.
You said you call it depressed.
Does that mean she'd been like it a while? Yes.
I er I dealt with a case six or seven months ago.
A woman a girl was sexually assaulted and murdered.
- Disembowelled.
- Kentish Town.
Yes.
I erm It had an effect on me.
we haven't had sexual relations more or less since then.
- Not once? - Maybe two or three times in six months.
She was very understanding at first, very patient.
But then the last couple of months have been difficult.
Er she was distant.
Sometimes she would drink, get depressed.
Sometimes she would get angry.
- And last night? - The lot.
Tell us what happened.
when I came in she didn't even move.
The kids hadn't eaten and we were meant to be going out.
- were you angry? - No.
But I was worried about her.
She was like a ghost.
So I fed the kids and called the Kings to tell them we wouldn't be coming.
- Did you tell them why? - No, not exactly.
I said Dawn was fluey.
It was a bit embarrassing.
we'd cancelled before.
Same reason? we were meant to have dinner on Valentine's night.
So you fed your kids, you phoned your friends, then what? Gave them a bath, put them to bed.
what was your wife doing? She never left her chair all evening.
Very calm, cool-headed.
A very private man.
- Popular? - He's neither popular nor unpopular.
Hard-working.
Meticulous.
Ambitious.
He's a bit of a cold fish, I suppose.
- Friends? - No.
Not really.
Not here.
- Crumpet man? - No.
Not like your boss.
Dawn had a gin bottle out beside her.
It wasn't normal.
She wouldn't have a bottle out when the kids were around.
So I thought we might be in for a real bender.
what did you do? I said we should talk.
what time was this? Oh, I suppose about 8:30, nine o'clock.
Yeah.
I was bringing in some glasses when the Nine O'Clock News came on.
- You both had a drink? - I thought it might help if I had one too.
- And you talked? - Yeah, in fits and starts.
TV still on? Yeah, that's right.
we had all the old stuff.
My mother.
Money.
Her mother.
Other women? No.
Not that.
She accused me of being married to the job.
- Is that true? - You know.
we talked a bit, watched TV.
Sometime after ten I fixed her some dinner.
A bit after that I took the bottle away.
I didn't want her getting drunk.
A bit silly, really, but I hid it.
In the washing machine.
Did you taking the bottle away make her angry? No, not any more than she'd been the rest of the evening.
She got angrier later when I began to nod off.
Said it showed I didn't care, even though we'd been talking all evening.
This was when? I don't know.
After midnight.
I said we were crazy.
we were both exhausted.
we were getting nowhere.
Shouldn't we get to bed? Then? Then she started.
"what's the point of going to bed with you?" Shouting, screaming.
She was saying we were a sham, that all I wanted to do was sit in front of the TV.
She picked up this heavy plant bowI and threw it at the TV, smashed the whole bloody thing.
Screaming.
I said something about waking the kids.
She said, "Sod the kids.
" I mean it wasn't her.
She was getting wild.
She threw the broken plant bowI at me, cut me.
I shouted at her.
I grabbed her.
I hadn't heard her for a while and I realised she was saying she had a lover.
Twice the man I was.
The noise.
The noise of her voice and her face.
The things she was saying.
And she wouldn't be quiet.
She wouldn't shut up.
She wouldn't stop.
It wouldn't stop.
Coffee? Interview terminated at, er 11:21.
I can just hear the judge.
"Yes, Mr Lindsay, wives can be terribly irritating.
Six months suspended.
" I'd give him 15 years and castrate him.
- He'll go down.
- He'll get two and a half years maximum.
Manslaughter, diminished responsibility.
You have a row, you strangle your wife, you get the same sentence as you would for shoplifting.
well, it's the same for a woman.
You mean that, don't you? Of course.
A woman kills her husband in a row, it's the same.
There's one small difference.
How is someone like Dawn meant to strangle a wiry bugger like him? well, she isn't.
Sorry.
Go on.
- No, I don't think I should.
- Go on.
A man's strength is his murder weapon.
A woman would have to go and get a knife and come back to the row.
Those few seconds can be the difference between diminished responsibility and murder.
She would get 15 years but because he just got on with it, he could walk.
Do you realise that? That bastard could just walk out of court.
How did you get on with Graves? when I was acting chief super and you, he and Harry were a team.
Fine.
He was OK.
Do you think it's all right for a man to strangle his wife? No, of course it's not all right.
It's not that surprising either.
where's the ketchup? Guv.
- This is the disembowelment case.
- Oh.
It's pretty grim.
And this is interesting.
It's an old case of Lindsay's from about five years back.
Domestic murder.
Man strangled his wife in marital dispute.
Manslaughter, diminished responsibility.
Served 18 months.
Oh, Jesus.
Mo, I should think Lindsay dealt with 30 or 40 murders during his time with AMIP.
Mightn't that have influenced him? Possibly, but it's not our problem.
The lawyers and shrinks will have a bit of fun with it.
The press bureau want to put out a statement on Lindsay.
Um wife found dead, suspicious circumstances, Lindsay helping with inquiries.
- we put that out this morning.
- That's it.
- Haven't you charged him? - No.
- why not? - If I do I can't speak to him again.
I think I may want to, sir.
I want you on the Argyle Street expenses.
Sorry, guv, can't do it.
Got too much to do on Lindsay.
Still waiting for forensics and we've found out it could be a copycat killing.
He was involved in a similar investigation five years ago.
His wife had told him she was having an affair.
- why wouldn't he just divorce her? - That's what we're trying to find out.
All right, but don't go tilting at windmills, Anthony.
Understood? Right.
we are gonna drag out this inquiry longer than west Midlands.
- Bit hard on Lindsay, guv.
- Bugger Lindsay.
Let him sweat.
Harry.
what was Graves's last nick before here? we've got to get some dirt on him.
women, drink, Masons.
You're playing with fire there, guv.
Harry, I have always checked out my bosses.
Haven't you? You bastard.
Oh, thanks, Bill.
It's all right, sir.
All part of the service.
- Are you busy? - No, nice and quiet.
I'll be going out in a while.
Is there anything you need? No, I don't think so.
Thanks.
Tell you what I would like.
A photograph of my kids, if possible.
And my wife.
I'll have a word with Mr Clark.
Shouldn't be a problem.
Thanks.
- Do you know Clark? - No, sir.
I was wondering if he was a bit of a stickler.
- I'm surprised he hasn't charged me yet.
- Yeah, odd, that.
If he hasn't by tonight I'll have to get a 12-hour extension from my guv'nor.
- If I hear what they're up to, I'll um - I'd appreciate that, Bill.
- It'll go no further than this room.
- All right.
That's done, then.
we didn't get on before he was promoted, sir.
It would be best for the unit if I was transferred.
I want you to suck it and see for a while, Tony.
I don't understand how he came to leapfrog me.
It can't be results.
I've a very good record at CIB, second to none.
True.
- Private life.
- No.
You work well with people you like but not with people you don't.
There's a lesson to be learnt.
That's why David Graves pipped you.
And that's why you're gonna stay here and get on with your job.
OK? An affair? No.
Absolutely not.
How can you be sure? Aside from the fact that it just wasn't her, when would she get the time? Breakfast, kids to school, teaching all day, dash home, cook the dinner.
when? Certain jobs offer the opportunity for extra-marital excursions.
Teaching really isn't one of them.
How was she in terms of mood and behaviour? Stressed.
Not really with us.
- Had she always been like that? - No.
That was the last term or so.
- Friends? - Not really.
Her sister.
Basically she just lived for her husband and her children.
The doctor wasn't prepared to discuss Lindsay without his permission.
She said Dawn was worried about their relationship and was depressed.
I got the same from the neighbours.
Dawn was quiet and withdrawn.
Did you see the people they were meant to be having dinner with? Yeah, same again.
David's a saint keeping the home fires burning while she slips into depression.
It was the third time he'd cancelled dinner at short notice.
They were meant to go Valentine's day.
He phoned up to say that Dawn was too tired.
They were meant to be there a week later, he said she had a migraine.
Do you want to go in and get things started? I'll join you in a minute.
I've got some calls to make.
The sister's in this annexe by the garage.
- Still living with her mother? - I sometimes wish I was.
I'll take that.
Erm, I thought you had given up.
I have.
Naylor.
- It's me.
- Oh, hello, guv.
- Busy? - Oh, yeah, I'm rushed off my feet here.
OK.
I checked all the credit cards and that stuff.
Nothing untoward there.
Fleet Road want to know if he can have a photograph of his wife and kids.
Mrs Myles has got the keys and your two mates rang.
The ones who are checking out Graves.
- They found anything? - Nothing they want to tell me.
Thanks, Harry.
- Er, guv? - Yeah.
- Is Mo with you? - Yeah.
- Is she OK? - Yeah.
why? No, nothing, nothing.
No.
I'll see you.
I'm sorry.
It may seem pretty cut and dried but it is important, especially as he's a police officer, that the whole thing's properly investigated.
we do understand that it must be very painful for you.
would you like us to come another day? No.
It's all right.
I'm sorry.
- I'm sorry too.
- Thank you.
Erm no.
Dawn wouldn't have an affair.
She was She was so devoted to the children.
Oh, God.
why? Don't worry.
Don't worry.
we'll leave it for now.
0140 hours, he said, "we had a row.
She taunted me, she was shouting.
"I don't know what I don't know why I did it.
"I went mad and killed her.
"I'm sorry.
Oh, God, I'm so sorry.
" we were meant to be going out for dinner on Valentine's night.
Meant to have dinner with the Kings Valentine's day.
Dawn too tired.
Should have been there a week later.
Dawn had migraine.
Third dinner date March 7th.
Dawn dead.
Yeah.
Thanks.
Sergeant, I've brought Mr Lindsay's photo.
- Thank you, sir.
You can go through.
- Thanks.
He's up for review at 2am, sir.
Thanks.
I'm putting in for an extension.
I'll er leave the glass with you.
Righto.
He seems to be bearing up, mind you.
I don't think he'll go topping himself or anything.
will you be charging him tomorrow, sir? Maybe.
- Hello, David.
- Hi, Tony.
I brought your photo.
Thanks.
Everything all right, then? Yeah.
Better than I deserve.
This is putting a lot of people through pain and trouble.
Don't worry, mate.
we'll sort it out.
would you give me your consent to talk to your doctor? Yeah.
Of course.
I won't be able to speak to her till the morning.
Your review is tonight.
I'm putting in for a 12-hour extension.
Is that all right with you or will you be making representations? No.
That's all right.
Thanks.
- Good night, then.
- Good night.
Good night.
Good night, sir.
You all right, sir? who is it? Me.
- Hi, Mo.
- Hiya, guv.
what you doing here? - I did come to talk about work but - But? I got a bottle of wine and you're half-naked and And this is Richard.
- Hello.
- Hello.
we've got a bottle of Frascati in the fridge, haven't we, darling? That'll be cold.
- I'll just go and get dressed.
- Right.
There were signals in the interview, Lindsay's body language, but it was the calendar that woke me up - no mention of the dinner dates.
- Thanks.
I'm sorry to break in like this.
- No problems.
Er, no, thanks.
I think it was Graves that distracted me.
Lindsay's doing it very well but he's lying his balls off.
- Eureka.
- You feel the same? It's more primitive with me.
My instinct isn't that he's lying or guilty of something else.
I just hate him for what he's done.
If he's lying, what's he lying about? Maybe he was up to something.
Maybe he was OTS, not his wife.
- what's OTS? - Unfaithful.
Over the side.
Otherwise known as "out taking statements".
- Now we've got something to look for.
- what, you mean his BOS? Bit On the Side.
who he was being OTS with.
I mean, maybe she was a wPC with the CID or Ml5 or the DPP.
- Richard, are you all right? - Actually I'm not, no.
I'm going to be made redundant this week.
OOw.
- why didn't you say? - I haven't really had a chance, have I? I'm sorry, I've come at a bad time.
No, I have.
I'll see you tomorrow.
Better make it eight.
I'm sorry, Richard.
Nice meeting you.
Guv.
Harry, erm, have you met Mo's bloke? Richard.
- Oh, you have? - Yeah.
- well, what's he You know - Architect.
- No, I mean what's going on? - Don't ask me, guv Guv, listen to this.
- "I couldn't stop the noise of her voice.
" - what about it? It's from a statement Lindsay took from that bloke who killed his wife.
This is Lindsay's.
"The noise of her voice and her face I couldn't stop the noise of her voice.
" - Jesus.
- well done, Mo.
- Do we interview him again? - No.
I want the motive.
I want to know all I can.
If he knows we're onto him, he'll shut up shop.
- Six hours and counting.
- Let's get going.
we should look out of town.
It's the most likely place we can catch him being OTS.
Yeah.
Harry, what was his last job away? - Progress? - Yes, sir.
- Henley, two months ago.
- we have a case developing.
- what have you got? - Mo and I are off to Henley, sir.
- Mo, will you get the car? - Uh-huh.
Sir.
Harry'll take you through what we've got.
Clark, the commander is adamant that we get on to the Argyle Street expenses! They checked in as Mr and Mrs Lindsay.
- Children? - No.
- Do you remember him? - Oh, yes.
He was investigating that armed robbery.
- One of your chaps died, didn't he? - Yes.
This is a photo of his wife.
Is this the woman who was with him? I don't know.
She kept herself to herself.
- But you did see her? - I may have done.
But I'm sure Anna did.
This is very good.
This definitely has the feel of a dirty weekend about it.
- Does it? - Yes.
Ah, will you come this way? This is Anna.
Hello.
Do you remember the policeman who investigated the armed robbery? Yes.
Do you remember what his wife looked like? Yes.
She was blonde and thin.
- Yes, that's her.
- Damn.
- I'm sorry.
- No, you've been very kind.
Thank you.
- And you, sir.
- Thank you.
Goodbye.
Four hours and 33 minutes before I have to charge him.
Let's hope Forensics come up with something.
No, drawn a blank.
we're off to talk to Dawn's mother.
Should be back by one.
OK, I'll ask him.
Harry's wife's pranged the car.
He asked if he could go home.
Oh, God.
well, I suppose nothing's happening.
Harry? Yeah, that's OK.
It's a bit tasteless, Harry.
- what did he say? - "If she's written it off, I'll strangle her.
" She'd surprised me a bit.
She's completely moved woods.
It's taken me a couple of days to find her.
I'm glad I have.
Sniffing her way all the way down that trunk.
Most of the hazel's down off the bushes now, onto the ground.
They were childhood sweethearts.
Doted on each other.
I think she set her sights on him and that was that.
- She was a strong character? - Oh, yes.
At times like this, she'd be the one to hold us all together.
- And your husband? - He died when Gayle was four.
- I'm sorry.
- That's why Dawn had to be so strong.
She was 15.
- And she knew David already? - Yes.
He was a great help too.
Such a kind-mannered man.
I don't know how it happened.
But one shouldn't be surprised.
Things like this happen all the time.
Life can be very hard for people.
Do you feel bitter towards David? No.
Sad.
Heartbroken for the children.
And Gayle.
And me.
Can I come through and get a cloth? Christian's spilt his Coke.
- Please, go through.
- Sorry.
Oh, don't worry, darling.
I think you've told us all we need to know, Mrs Myles.
we'll be off now.
Erm, Gayle, did either of them ask you to baby-sit the night it happened? I don't remember.
I don't think so, no.
I'll do it, darling.
They were meant to be going out to dinner.
well, they quite often phone me at the last minute.
I'm always in.
- Did they have another baby-sitter? - No.
Dawn wouldn't leave them with anyone else but me.
Same if they went away overnight and left the children? They never did.
Dawn would never spend a night away from the children.
Oh.
what about when they went to Henley? He drove me home from baby-sitting.
we made love in the hall the first time.
It was six months ago.
I've always loved him, ever since I was a little girl.
He's always loved me.
we both loved Dawn.
we never wanted to hurt her.
- Did he ever mention killing her? - No.
what are you talking about? It was a row.
He wouldn't kill her.
He loved her.
There's no need to go overboard, love.
You're not hurt, the car'll mend.
what's the problem? That's not what really worries me.
I didn't know which was the accelerator, which was the brake.
I didn't know how to turn the wheel to make it go right.
- Very frightening.
- Yeah.
Yeah, I can imagine.
- I'm getting so clumsy.
- well, it's old age, innit? Neither of us is getting any younger.
I don't want to get old.
I don't want you to go off me and run off with some bimbo.
Oh, get off.
There's never been anyone else but you.
You know that.
Never will be.
You're serious crumpet.
Do you mean that? - will you still love me - # when I'm sixty-four # Boo-ba-doo-ba-doo # will you still be sending me a valentine # Birthday greetings, bottle of wine? # If I stay up till quarter to three # will you lock the door? # Gayle, if you wouldn't mind waiting here.
Maureen will bring you some coffee.
It's vital that Lindsay and anyone who may talk to him doesn't know she's here.
- Have you got an empty office? - Yeah, next to the custody suite, sir.
Take a full statement from her and make three copies.
Do we think she's an accomplice? I don't think she could lie to save her life.
But she's given us proof Lindsay's lied and a motive for premeditated murder.
I wonder if she has.
He kills Dawn, Gayle gets the kids, he gets Gayle.
After he's killed her sister? She'd run a mile.
No.
He has visiting rights to the children.
She has always been in love with him.
She would forgive him, take him back.
Less than two hours to go.
If I can't get back to CIB I'll get Harry to bring the stuff over here.
- Remember he'll be coming from home.
- Oh, shit.
He's gonna have to go to the postmortem.
we're all tied up.
This is a bloody shambles.
- I hear you've got an empty office spare.
- Er, yes, sir.
They're here, sir.
Mo, it's ten past one.
Try and get a statement out of her by two.
I know, but try.
Is Harry not here yet? I've sent her home.
I got everything you wanted.
- Anything new? - No.
Oh, thank God.
what you got? Death by strangulation.
About the time that Lindsay said.
Blood alcohol levels consistent with two or three small gins but not with someone who'd been drinking heavily over recent days.
- Anything else? - Yeah.
She had a Dutch cap in.
- Semen? - No.
Oh, for Christ's sake.
we're going round in circles.
was she going to see a lover later? Harry, all the stuff from CIB - Lindsay's first interview, the calendar, all that.
It's on its way.
This is a bloody joke.
I haven't got any papers and I don't have any time.
Anything useful? Someone called Tim says he has discovered that Graves is a member of the Ealing Gilbert And Sullivan Society.
Is this the breakthrough we have all been waiting for? - Harry.
- Oh, yeah, guv.
I forgot.
- Graves wishes you good luck.
- Does he? All right, guv, let's have a look at what we've got.
Calendar.
No entries for the three meals but entries for just about every other event in their lives.
Alcohol.
Forensics say she'd been drinking but not as heavily as Lindsay suggested.
And we've got a motive.
- He was screwing his wife's kid sister.
- Yeah.
Anything else? well, it's all circumstantial, innit? None of this proves that Lindsay premeditatedly planned his wife's death.
It might convince us but it's not gonna get a conviction, is it? Unless we get a confession out of him, we've got sod all.
Thank you, Harry.
Guv.
The cap.
The Dutch cap.
I think they're ready to charge you now, sir.
Sir? Sir, I've brought the papers.
Thank you.
Remember, you've got just under 30 minutes.
He has to be charged before 14:47.
Thank you, Sergeant.
- If you don't mind, I'll do this with Harry.
- I do mind, sir.
You're too wound up.
You could be a liability.
when he sniffs we're onto him, he'll clam up.
Guv, I am OK.
All right? All right, but keep calm.
He's got to think we're on his side.
Hello, David.
Sorry to drag you back.
As you can imagine, this had a bit of a profile.
- The powers that be, the press.
- I understand.
- would you like tea, coffee? - Coffee.
Harry, would you grab the sergeant? Recorded interview, March 9th, I'm Detective Superintendent Anthony Clark.
Also present Detective Sergeant Maureen Connell.
- Can you identify yourself, please? - David Lindsay.
- And? - David Thomas.
Mr Lindsay's solicitor.
You don't have to say anything unless you wish to do so but what you say may be given in evidence.
I would like to put on record our thanks to Detective Superintendent Lindsay for allowing a 12-hour extension to his detention without making representations.
All right.
Let's take them in order.
To the best of your knowledge, did you or Dawn have financial worries? Er, no.
The domestic budget - mortgage and so on - is always a trial, but no.
To be honest, Dawn's family her mother, I mean, has well, she's not rich, but she would bail us out if it got too tight.
- Has she done that in the past? - Not exactly.
If we are getting a new car she'll chuck in a thousand quid to get a better one.
So you don't owe her or anyone else any money? - No.
- All right.
That's that one.
Sorry, this is a little more intimate.
Had you had sexual relations recently with Dawn? The last time was a couple of weeks ago.
- Initiated by whom? - Me, I believe.
I'd been feeling slightly warmer towards Dawn but she was still very tense, very unhappy.
I understand.
You were therefore the more affectionate of the two of you? I was.
when was the last time Dawn tried to initiate sexual intercourse? weeks, maybe months ago.
I believe you said during the first interview that your wife had taunted you about taking a lover.
Having had time to reflect, do you still believe there was no lover? Yes, I still feel it unlikely that Dawn had a lover.
So we can say that as neither of you was sexually involved with any other person, that this was a personal emotional breakdown triggered by the Kentish Town murder? - Yes.
- Right.
were you adversely affected by any other murders you've investigated? well, they all have an effect, I suppose.
- Anything in particular come to mind? - No.
Right.
Any idea how many murders you've dealt with? No.
Erm, maybe 40, I don't know.
OK.
Right.
what sort of contraception did you and Dawn use? A cap.
A Dutch cap.
- where did your wife keep the cap? - In her dressing table.
- In a drawer? - Yes.
How much was Dawn drinking in the last few weeks? Erm Er - I suppose, er - The superintendent's coffee, sir.
The custody sergeant has brought coffee for Superintendent Lindsay.
I asked you how much you would say your wife was drinking recently.
It varied.
The last few days she'd cut back.
I think that may have been why she was so tense.
So tense Dawn never left her seat all evening? No.
- To go to the toilet? - Oh, yes.
Maybe.
- But not to go upstairs? - No.
Right.
Now, we've been talking to your sister-in-law Gayle.
She said she wasn't booked to baby-sit that night you killed Dawn.
You were meant to be going to the Kings' for dinner.
Dawn was meant to book her.
She she probably forgot.
Maybe that was because she hadn't marked it down on her diary.
- She did know about the dinner? - Oh, yes, of course.
She must have forgotten to put it in her diary.
On her diary.
wall diary, in the kitchen.
There's also no mention on that diary, or calendar, whatever, of the other two dinners you were meant to be having with the Kings.
Forgetfulness.
- She did know about the dinner dates? - Oh, yes.
Did Gayle once have a boyfriend called Darren? I'm not sure I understand the point of the question.
He brought her home one night on his bike when you and Dawn were there.
You told him to leave her alone or you'd break his legs.
Is that right? No comment.
Fair enough.
I'm just trying to see if you feel you're a passionate, protective man.
All right, I'll just read this out.
"I couldn't stop the noise of her voice.
" - Have you heard that before? - Yes.
- when? - I said it.
when I made that statement the day after.
The day I killed Dawn.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry for what I've done.
No.
No, David, you didn't say it.
It was actually said to you in a statement by Richard Savatovsky five years ago.
I just wondered if you recognised it.
Detective Superintendent Lindsay is whispering to his solicitor.
I have nothing further to say at this time.
I have the legal duty to let you hear some of the evidence against you.
Perhaps it will give you the chance to offer us some simple explanations.
I have handed Superintendent Lindsay a copy of a statement given to us by Gayle Myles at Fleet Road police station earlier today.
As you decline to pick it up, I will read the relevant piece or pieces.
"we first made love on 28th August.
"David drove me home.
I'd been baby-sitting.
"we sat in the car.
we knew what was going on but didn't want it to happen.
"I got out of the car but he didn't drive away.
He got out too.
"I went inside, he followed.
"we made love there in the hall.
"He said it would be all right.
"I'm sorry.
Dawn, I'm sorry.
" There seems to be a contradiction.
Gayle says you and she were having a passionate love affair.
She refers to several occasions of lovemaking when you say you were having sex with nobody, not even your wife.
Is there a simple explanation? Dawn always thought of you as Gayle's surrogate father, didn't she? In fact, I think Gayle has always seen you as a father figure.
Is that fair? You're 13 years older than her.
when you first met her she was four years old.
You were 17.
we believe that last night with Dawn was not as chilly and relentlessly antagonistic as you've suggested.
we believe, and hope you can help us here we believe that when you came home early and put the children to bed, Dawn was thrilled.
Dawn had endured some very lonely months.
That night, however, you were helpful.
You made her dinner, you brought her a drink, were kind Do you know what she did? She put her cap in for you.
Superintendent Lindsay declines to pick up the forensic report.
The report shows, from the breakdown of spermicidal cream, that the cap had been fitted Can you explain that? Because it seems to me that Dawn, this woman you say was drinking heavily, this woman you say was ignoring her kids, this woman you say was taunting you with her lover, that this woman Dawn, your wife and the mother of your children, wanted to make love with you that night.
I have no further comment to make at this time.
- It's all right, Mo.
- It is not all right! It is not all right!