I Am Cait (2015) s02e05 Episode Script

1 - CAITLYN: Disick is in the house.
- SCOTT: Hello! CAITLYN: I don't think Scott and I have ever really "bonded.
" SCOTT: Come on, girls.
JENNY: The purse, can I just say, it's a slippery slope.
- Be careful.
- SCOTT: I know.
CAITLYN: Come on, let's ride! (revs engine) CHANDI: Back in the day, I was running around with the wrong crowd, and I ended up going to prison.
CANDIS: You're cute.
I could totally kiss you.
It's really nice to be able to, like, have something with somebody that I like.
What are you thinking? Being on this trip, it's so so weird, - I can't remember what day it is.
- CHANDI: Is it Monday? - JENNY: Today is "Mundy" night.
- CHANDI: Exactly.
CANDIS: Monday? "Mundy"? - JENNY: "Mundy" night.
- CANDIS: "Mundy.
" - JENNY: "Mundy.
" - CHANDI: "Mundy"? JENNY: Do I say other things with with an accent? - "Mundy.
" "Mundy" night.
- CHANDI: "Mundy.
" "Mundy.
" JENNY: Mon Mon-day.
What do you say? - CANDIS: Monday.
- JENNY: "Mundy.
" - CHANDI: "Mundy.
" (laughing) - JENNY: What? - Wait, you say it.
- CHANDI: Monday.
- JENNY: "Mundy.
" - CHANDI: "Mundy.
" (laughs) - She's like, "What?" - ELLA: "Toosdy.
" - JENNY: Mon Monday? - CHANDI: Monday.
- JENNY: Mon Monday.
- CHANDI: "Mundy.
" - JENNY: Is that how you say it, "Mon-day"? - CHANDI: "Mundy"? (laughs) We got our lives on "Mundy.
" (laughter) JENNY: You're killing me.
(laughter) CHANDI: J.
B.
! - (Candis laughing) - Whew! - ELLA: It's "Mundy.
" - CHANDI: Well, actually, it's Tuesday.
It's Tuesday now.
(laughter) (phone ringing) - CAITLYN: There you are! - KOURTNEY: How's it going? CAITLYN: It's going, actually, very well.
I'm on Highway 70 to St.
Louis, Missouri.
KOURTNEY: Oh, nice! - CAITLYN: And guess who called me.
- KOURTNEY: Yeah.
Who? CAITLYN: Scott.
- KOURTNEY: Oh, really? - CAITLYN: He kind of reached out.
Kind of wanted to talk, hang out, so he's on his "supposably" on his way to St.
Louis.
So, he's gonna meet us there tomorrow.
KOURTNEY: Oh, no way! CAITLYN: So, yeah.
So, I just kind of wanted to check with you - KOURTNEY: Yeah, that's fine with me.
- CAITLYN: Oh, okay.
I hear he's sober.
Is that what you hear? KOURTNEY: Yeah, he's been sober.
He's been seeing the kids every day.
CAITLYN: Yeah, well, good.
I I'm glad he's, you know, doing well.
I have not seen Scott since he got back from rehab.
You know, he's been through a lot, so I would love for him to be around the girls, who have been through so much in their life and have come out so well.
So I think he's gonna spend a day with with me and the girls.
- KOURTNEY: Okay, fun! - CAITLYN: Okay.
Good, good.
All right, then it should begood.
Love you! Bye! KOURTNEY: Love you! Bye! KATE: Who is Scott? CAITLYN: Scott is my stepdaughter Kourtney's baby daddy.
KATE: Oh CAITLYN: They never got married, but they just had three kids together.
Wonderful little kids.
Scott is not a bad guy, but he's got he's had a huge drinking problem.
And it's really had a major impact on his life.
So he's trying to get his life back together.
You know, he's been through a lot.
So, uh, anyway, he's gonna meet us in St.
Louis.
- Chandi, to get back on a serious note - CHANDI: Mm-hmm.
CAITLYN: As you know better than anybody, we had a bad year.
21 hate crimes towards trans women.
So many of these women, - especially in the homicide side of it - CHANDI: Mm-hmm.
- CAITLYN: uh, are trans women of color.
- CHANDI: Mm-hmm.
CAITLYN: Why? CHANDI: Well, a lot of them don't get the love that they need at home.
It's a lot easier for for parents to accept their children being gay.
Being trans is taking things to a whole nother level.
That's a little bit harder for them to accept.
They choose to, in most cases, put their children out.
That's why they have to turn to, um, survival sex and survival situations in order for them to be able to navigate themselves through life.
CAITLYN: Do they understand the dangers of doing it, - what they're doing? - CHANDI: They don't care about the danger.
CANDIS: They know the dangers, - but they don't care.
- CAITLYN: They don't care? - CANDIS: They don't care.
- CHANDI: on the street.
- CANDIS: They need to survive day to day.
- CHANDI: They need a a roof over their head at night.
They need to know where their next meal is coming from.
It's all about making money to survive on the streets.
CAITLYN: Why is it so difficult for trans women of color - to get a job? - CHANDI: A lot of times, - race plays a big part of it.
- CANDIS: It really does.
- CHANDI: It does.
- CAITLYN: That's shocking to me.
- CHANDI: That's how it's been.
- CAITLYN: I I No.
O obviously.
I I've never seen it, so but I obviously, you lived through this.
- But I I - CHANDI: I do feel like Cait needs to embrace the issues that African-American trans women go through a little more, but it's still a journey that she'll never relate to in any way.
CANDIS: Oh, the Arch! The St.
Louis Arch.
- CAITLYN: The Arch of St.
Louis! - ELLA: Oh, my golly! - CAITLYN: There it is, right over there.
See it? - KIP: Oh, wow, look at it! ELLA: Oh, yeah! KATE: Oh, golly, we're here.
ELLA: We made it! KATE: Good evening to you.
(birds chirping) (treadmill whirring) ANDREW: I told you I was gonna push you, didn't I? - CANDIS: Yeah.
- ANDREW: Yeah.
See, now you started out liking me, loving me, and now you just kind of like, uh, uh now it's got a love/hate relationship.
CANDIS: So I've been feeling a little blah lately because I haven't been working out.
So I found a trainer, and he's super cute so I'm excited about our workout.
ANDREW: Good job.
Take a break, minute break.
Here you go.
So what do you have planned for the rest of the day? CANDIS: Maybe walk down here and see the sights or something? ANDREW: Perfect.
- CANDIS: If you're bored, you could join me.
- ANDREW: Okay, yeah.
- Take a little walk.
- CANDIS: Yeah.
I'm not somebody who usually asks somebody out, so I kind of was like, "Let's just kind of take a chance and - see what happens.
" - ANDREW: I'll see you at the lobby.
- All right.
- All right.
Bye.
I'll have a cappuccino.
CANDIS: You're gonna make me eat alone? - ANDREW: Okay.
I'll eat.
- CANDIS: Thank you.
(Andrew chuckles) - ANDREW: Um - CANDIS: See? I get my way.
ANDREW: You do, you do, you do.
CANDIS: It's just so cute, this little alley there, - with, like, the restaurants and - ANDREW: So, question.
'Cause I'm curious.
- And, of course, you can stop me if you want.
- Yeah.
- Um, you've dated other guys, right, in the past? - CANDIS: Yeah.
ANDREW: Like, 'cause you've totally been open with them.
- Like, "This is who I am and" - CANDIS: This is who I am.
- ANDREW: Right.
- CANDIS: For me, personally, I'm always open about my transition when I'm dating somebody.
ANDREW: How how have they taken that? CANDIS: Well, the guys that I've dated, obviously, are fine with it, you know? I guess it depends on the guy and how comfortable they are with their own masculinity.
And this is the longest I've been without a relationship, and it's been nice to finally date myself for a while.
You know what I mean? - And I think I've discovered what I like and - ANDREW: What do you like? - CANDIS: Tall, dark, and handsome.
- ANDREW: Tall, Dar Oh, really? - CANDIS: Yeah.
- ANDREW: Interesting.
- I think it might be just around the corner.
- CANDIS: Yeah.
Andrew is kind of surprising me, because we're actually really connecting and I'm attracted to him and he seems like he's flirting back.
So that's kind of cool.
ANDREW: There anything you would want to know about me? CANDIS: How did you get that perfect skin and that gorgeous body? ANDREW: Well, I was born this way, and so thank my parents.
(both laugh) - (birds chirping) - (doorbell rings) - (door opens) - CAITLYN: Hey, babe.
- CHANDI: Look at you! - CAITLYN: Look at you.
Look at you! - My God, girl.
- CHANDI: Well, you know? CAITLYN: This time in the morning, and you're just all dressed up, ready to go.
- Let's take this day on.
- CHANDI: I think I felt a little unresolved, like there was something that I needed to say to Cait so that she can identify better with where African-American trans women come from.
CAITLYN: I hear Mama's coming to St.
Louis.
- CHANDI: She adores you.
- CAITLYN: Mmm, I know.
(both laugh) Anyway, you said you wanted to talk.
CHANDI: Yeah, I wanted to talk to you because I wanted to tell you a little bit about my past.
Back in the day, before I got into doing all of this work that I've been doing, I was running around with the wrong crowd.
Because I was going through trying to figure out who I am and I didn't necessarily want to deal with explaining it to my family, so I wanted to try to see if I could figure it out on my own.
I got into some heavy stuff, you know, doing some white-collar crimes and writing checks and doing credit cards and stuff like that, and I ended up going to prison.
- CAITLYN: Disick is in the house.
- SCOTT: Hello! - Look at this! - CAITLYN: This is unbelievable.
I don't think Scott and I have ever really "bonded.
" (motorcycles rumbling) Come on, let's ride! CHANDI: I ended up going to prison.
I was scared to death.
I was scared to death.
And, um, at that time, like, maybe ten of us who were openly homosexual as that's 'cause that's what they called us um, up against maybe 1,500 men.
CAITLYN: For me, I I can't see little Chandi, you know, in jail.
I can't even visualize that, 'cause she's such a good person.
What were you using that money for, just CHANDI: Survival.
Um, food, hormones, a place to stay.
'Cause none of us had jobs.
We were all living from day to day.
You know, it wasn't a easy road getting here.
I wish someone would've told me back then that if I became a felon that I wouldn't be able to work at a bank or how it would be a problem for me to get a passport.
That was me back in that day before I became who I am.
CAITLYN: Your parents were not there for you.
CHANDI: They weren't there only because I didn't want to tell them.
- CAITLYN: About being trans? - CHANDI: About being trans.
I just didn't know how they would accept that.
Me and my mom struggled through my transition because we just didn't know how we would come together on the fact that I was changing from who she bore as a child.
CAITLYN: Did you have anybody to confide in, at that point? CHANDI: Well, my friends that I was running around with at that time, um, we all, you know, talked about it, because there was a couple of us who were going through the same thing.
We were just living it from day to day, performing in the clubs, trying to make tips, and, um, trying to support ourselves in those ways.
And so that was fast money.
For us.
Back then.
- But fast money doesn't last long.
- CAITLYN: No, it doesn't.
It's so interesting to me to see what she's been through in her life and so many trans women go through and that is survival crimes.
She was trying to survive and didn't know any other way to do it.
And to hear that from somebody that you love and adore, I think, for me, it helps understand the issues better.
(horn blowing) Scott Disick.
I don't think Scott and I have ever really "bonded," in the sense that I think we're just different people.
(doorbell rings) - Disick is in the house.
- SCOTT: Hello! - CAITLYN: How the hell are you doing? - SCOTT: How you doin'? CAITLYN: Can't believe the family member here.
This is unbelievable.
- Yeah! - SCOTT: Good livin'.
- CAITLYN: Have a seat.
- SCOTT: Nice boots! - CAITLYN: Well, thank you, thank you.
- SCOTT: What's going on? CAITLYN: Well, just hanging out with the girls.
SCOTT: How's it being in a bus? CAITLYN: A lot of very interesting conversations.
- SCOTT: I'm sure.
- CAITLYN: Transitioning, dealing with gender all of that.
And, um, I I think, for you, being around all these girls with their stories and their stuff, - I think can only be very positive for you.
- SCOTT: Yeah, well, that's what I was thinking.
CAITLYN: Yeah.
These girls have overcome so many obstacles in their life that hopefully it'll be inspiring for him to be around this really great group of people.
CANDIS: Hi.
- SCOTT: Hi.
Scott.
- CAITLYN: Oh, you haven't met! SCOTT: Hi.
How are you? - CANDIS: Nice to meet you.
- SCOTT: Nice to meet you.
- How you doin'? - CANDIS: I'm good.
- ELLA: Hello, ladies! - CHANDI: How's it going? Hey, Lord Disick, I do hugs.
I do hugs.
- SCOTT: There you go.
- CHANDI: How you doin'? - SCOTT: Not bad.
- CHANDI: Great.
JENNY: Scott, Jenny.
How are you? - CAITLYN: Jenny Boylan.
- JENNY: Pleasure.
I feel like I know you, but - SCOTT: Well, you're gonna get to.
- (laughter) - CAITLYN: Let's go.
- SCOTT: Are we riding there? CAITLYN: Yeah, we got to bus out there.
SCOTT: Come on, girls.
- JENNY: Disick, it's a slippery slope.
- CAITLYN: I used to give him a hard time - about his purse - SCOTT: Yeah.
JENNY: The purse, can I just say, it's a slippery slope.
- Be careful.
- SCOTT: I know.
- A few more days here, God knows.
- (Kate chuckles) (birds chirping) - ELLA: Okay, let's go.
- CAITLYN: Let's check it out.
CHANDI: Now, Scott, don't get quiet on us, - 'cause we know you're not shy.
- SCOTT: Okay.
(Van shouts) - CAITLYN: God! - VAN: Caitlyn! CAITLYN: We came to you! We came to you! Aren't you so happy? We're here.
VAN: Oh, my God, I so wasn't ready for that.
- CAITLYN: You weren't ready for that.
- VAN: Oh, my God.
Everyone, this is my husband Rick.
- CAITLYN: Hello, Rick.
- RICK: Hi.
Nice to meet you.
- VAN: Welcome to St.
Louis.
- CAITLYN: It's been quite a long journey to get here, but we're here.
So excited to see Van Barnes.
She's a friend of all of us.
Uh, uh, very close to Zackary.
She works on Transparent with her.
And she's happily married to a cisgender which means not transgender male, big daddy.
- SCOTT: This pool table is, like, for a child.
- COURTNEY: Just focus.
SCOTT: There you go.
CANDIS: Oh, my God, I had the best time with the trainer that's, like VAN: You got a trainer in St.
Louis? - CANDIS: Yeah, well, he's - VAN: You're such a liar.
- Okay, start the story over.
- CANDIS: No, so we have CHANDI: Uh, oh! You want to see him? VAN: I thought there were Is he one of the bodyguards? - CHANDI: That's her new husband.
- VAN: Oh, right, honey.
- CHANDI: Uh-huh.
- VAN: And does Cait know you're cheating on her? - CANDIS: Shh - CHANDI: No.
- WOMAN: Say cheese! - CANDIS: Scott.
- SCOTT: Yes.
- CANDIS: Come join us! SCOTT: All right, what did I miss? VAN: We need you to, um, kind of mediate this whole piece on the side issue that Candis has right now.
CANDIS: No, uh, we were just talking about - wanting you to be in our group.
- SCOTT: Yeah.
CANDIS: You're an honorary trans woman.
SCOTT: I been here ten minutes.
VAN: If you did, we might even let you join our club.
SCOTT: Stop! Well, now, when you say that, I'd be open to changing around town.
VAN: You would be in training though for, like, a little while.
SCOTT: Well, of course.
It's gonna be a long journey.
- CANDIS: (laughs) It is.
- CHANDI: He's trying to wrap his head around being around all these girls.
SCOTT: I'm used to being around a lot of women.
I'm just not used to being asked to become one.
(laughter) CAITLYN: All right.
Come on, let's ride! (motorcycle rumbling) This is not my first rodeo.
- VAN: I bet it isn't.
- (Caitlyn laughs) CANDIS: I'm riding behind your man.
- VAN: Go easy on him.
- (Candis laughs) (motorcycles rumbling) CANDIS: I'm gonna go grab a drink with Andrew.
CAITLYN: Don't do anything I wouldn't do.
- CANDIS: You have ten children.
- (both laugh) - SCOTT: I haven't talked to you all night.
- COURTNEY: CAITLYN: No, I'm not ignoring him.
- He's over there! - SCOTT: I'm not that far.
CAITLYN: But, for me, with my ears SCOTT: Is it really your ears, or you just don't want to listen? (motorcycles rumbling) CANDIS: Oh, my God.
RICK: - CANDIS: I did? - RICK: Yeah.
- You okay? - CANDIS: Yeah.
I don't know what happened.
- VAN: You got road rash, girl? - CANDIS: I got road rash.
I did not lean on that motorcycle.
It was not my fault.
- VAN: Look at Miss Cait.
- COURTNEY: Do you want to get back on, or no? You don't have to, you don't have to.
- VAN: Here, I'll take your spot.
- CANDIS: I think you should go, yeah you're used to it.
COURTNEY: What's happening? CANDIS: I knew I shouldn't have gotten onto his (bleep) motorcycle, no! - ELLA: Candis, are you okay? - JENNY: Sweetie, what happened? - CANDIS: I'm okay.
- ELLA: I just heard the news.
- JENNY: Do you need a Band-Aid or something? - CANDIS: No, I'm okay.
- I need a drink.
- JENNY: Okay.
We need a drink for this injured - motorcycle rider.
- (Candis laughs) VAN: Lead the way, girl.
- (whoops) - CAITLYN: Hey! SCOTT: What is tomorrow, exactly? ZACKARY: It's the Transday Remembrance, so, you know, trans people are murdered, - at at an alarming rate in some way - SCOTT: Really? ZACKARY: So, the Transday Remembrance sort of celebrates the lives that have been lost over the past year.
It's been happening for 16 years.
Even the numbers that we have are not necessarily accurate because so much of it is not reported, or people are misgendered in the news.
It's tough.
- Here they come.
- SCOTT: Oh, yeah.
Hell's Angels.
CAITLYN: Hey, there.
VAN: You're an old pro, girl.
- CAITLYN: Oh, thank you.
That was fun.
- RICK: It was fun.
- VAN: All right.
- CAITLYN: I know.
RICK: Most of it was.
CAITLYN: What age were you when you transitioned? VAN: I transitioned twice, actually.
The first time around, I just found it so hard to find gainful employment that I, uh, regressed, and went back to, uh, presenting male - in order to make a, uh - CAITLYN: Pay the bills.
VAN: Yeah, basically.
Pay the bills honestly.
But it's hard to have to do that twice.
After the first time, I actually had, uh, liposuction on my torso, on my breasts, because I'd grown them naturally.
CAITLYN: I had the exact same thing.
VAN: Oh, really, when you were in hiding? CAITLYN: '80s, uh, I was on hormones for four and a half years.
- SCOTT: Oh, by the way, you know - No more secrets.
I must be so boring.
CAITLYN: Because I just don't even have any more secrets.
- I'm a lot happier.
- VAN: No, honey.
- ELLA: None? - CAITLYN: What else can I tell? - ELLA: None? - CAITLYN: So, when it was Kim's birthday, - and Kendall and Kylie - SCOTT: Cait Caitlyn, you know what? CAITLYN: really nice gifts.
- SCOTT: Caitlyn? - CAITLYN: I figured they'd feel guilty, they wouldn't mind spending it, you know, on me.
- SCOTT: Caitlyn.
- CAITLYN: This year, for my birthday, I told these girls, "If I get one more goddamn golf shirt, you're dead.
" - SCOTT: She gets to talk and she gets to talk.
- JENNY: Yeah, right, also - SCOTT: That hasn't changed.
- JENNY: I think she can't, - she can't always hear.
- SCOTT: Yeah, it's true.
- JENNY: Just a little.
- SCOTT: Especially with the hair.
Just saying.
JENNY: You said you had some questions about family stuff.
SCOTT: Well, yeah, I just kind of I mean, I feel like Caitlyn has been so busy running around and traveling and, you know, bringing awareness - JENNY: Mm-hmm.
- SCOTT: that, you know, my kids don't really know exactly what's gone on, I don't know if they're old enough.
You know, my daughter has met her and was totally okay, didn't really, I don't think, grasp exactly that that was grandpa, now it's grandma.
My son was a little nervous.
JENNY: They get the message you send them.
So, if you talk about it with them like you're on tenterhooks and you're all jumpy, - they'll get that.
- SCOTT: Yeah.
JENNY: I sat down with my children and said, "You've probably noticed that I've been looking more and more like a girl recently, and I have this condition where my insides don't match my outsides.
" "Um, I know that might be weird for you, but you know I'm always gonna love you.
" And I think my son said something like, "Well, if you're always gonna love me, it won't be weird.
" In my experience, it seems like a bigger deal, I think, to grown-ups than it is to kids.
CAITLYN: Oh, is that adorable? We've spent so much time in that bus in very close quarters that it did get a little heated, that it's time to kind of, like, just take a break, uh, get on a riverboat cruise where we can see the city, the Arch, everything.
It should be fun.
COURTNEY: Ooh, it's chilly.
VAN: If we had to like, jump out right now and swim, could you do it? - ZACKARY: Yeah.
- VAN: Yeah, me too.
(horn blows) CANDIS: Oh, my God.
I think they - they did that on purpose.
- ZACKARY: I think I got to change my panties.
CANDIS: Jesus Christ.
CAITLYN: It's too cold here, let's go inside.
I'm freezing.
JENNY: All right, let's get in.
CHANDI: You know, there's a new term now, maybe you've heard it: pansexual.
- ELLA: Pansexual.
- SCOTT: What the hell is that? CHANDI: Okay, pansexual means that you're open to all genders.
- That you're just - SCOTT: Oh, just testing waters.
CHANDI: Just testing waters, trying whatever.
SCOTT: Now, one other question, is that a talked-about thing who's gone full circle and who hasn't? CHANDI: Not all transwomen choose to have the surgery to have a vagina.
SCOTT: It's unbelievable that the body can do this.
It's almost like, you know, when you build a car, you can change the wheels up.
- CHANDI: Right.
- SCOTT: It's like God made the body, and able to do it.
JENNY: It's like a car, that's right.
It's like a car.
SCOTT: I'm just saying - JENNY: I appreciate - SCOTT: It's like a pit stop.
(Imitates electric drills) JENNY: That's exactly right.
That's exactly it.
- SCOTT: Boom.
- JENNY: That's what it was like for me.
We have to find a way of talking about surgery.
And joking about it isn't the solution, but I get that this is Scott's way of trying to find a way to relate to something that's so new to him.
SCOTT: Is there any maintenance? JENNY: Not particularly.
There's some.
SCOTT: You don't have to go in for tune-ups? - JENNY: So, here here's the thing - SCOTT: I need it to relate to cars.
- COURTNEY: Oil change? - SCOTT: An oil change.
JENNY: There's an oil change, definitely, yeah.
The I guess the important thing, though, is we're not about an operation.
We're about soul.
SCOTT: Obviously, the soul part is the first, - and the most important - JENNY: Yeah.
SCOTT: But the other stuff comes along with the territory.
- CHANDI: Right.
- SCOTT: I just kind of want to have knowledge.
Just because, don't forget, people ask me these type of questions, and I would love to be able to have the right answers, especially for the straight person that's not understanding, to anything.
JENNY: I don't generally talk about down below, because, you know, that's private.
SCOTT: I mean, listen, I like to know the interior color on a car, like, I mean - COURTNEY: Pick out the accessories.
- JENNY: It's pink.
SCOTT: Oh! I I'm being inappropriate.
CHANDI: Yeah, right.
SCOTT: Anything else? - (horn blows) - (Candis whoops) CAITLYN: Chandi's mom is in town, baby.
- Hello, baby, how're you doing? - TINA: You look so beautiful! CAITLYN: Thank you, baby, so do you.
- TINA: Baby, you look beautiful.
- CAITLYN: Look at you, you are just - TINA: Come get my hug.
- CANDIS: Hi! - TINA: Hi, honey.
- KATE: Hello.
TINA: Hi.
Give me my other - KATE: Absolutely.
- TINA: How are you? KATE: I'm good, I see now where Chandi gets her good looks.
TINA: Oh! - KATE: Right? - CHANDI: You didn't meet Scott.
- TINA: Hi, Scott.
- SCOTT: I haven't transitioned yet.
- (Chandi laughs) - TINA: Come give me a hug.
(kisses) Good to see you.
SCOTT: Next month, it's gonna be a new me.
CHANDI: Scott is not transitioning, he's just playing games.
- TINA: Okay.
- SCOTT: I'm just playing.
CAITLYN: Let's go.
Get something to eat.
(indistinct chatter) SERVER: What you in the mood for you want to do beer, liquor? Coc specialty cocktails.
CAITLYN: In a mixed drink that you would say, "Oh, wow, this is a mixed drink for here.
" SERVER: I have a hurricane - ANDREW: Hi.
- CANDIS: Have a seat.
- ANDREW: Thank you, thank you.
- SERVER: Um, I also have a sazerac.
- CANDIS: Do you want a drink? - ANDREW: Sure.
- CHANDI: I got the pictures with Bill Clinton.
- TINA: Yeah, look at you with Clinton okay.
- CHANDI: Mm-hmm.
- TINA: Please save that.
CHANDI: I Of course.
ELLA: That's a gorgeous dress, too.
CAITLYN: Look at that.
He's the designer.
JENNY: Scott, where are you from, originally? - SCOTT: Uh, New York state.
- JENNY: Near a city? - I lived in Maine for ten years.
- SCOTT: I lived in Vermont for a while.
JENNY: Yeah? Are you the guy, who, when talking about your own, like, - pain and trouble and suffering - SCOTT: Yeah.
JENNY: you're the, "Oh, no, it's not a big deal" guy, are you that guy? SCOTT: No, I'm pretty open with that I've gone through things that have hurt me a ton.
JENNY: Tell me if you don't want to go go down this rabbit hole of, like, getting divorced.
SCOTT: Yeah, no, I was never married.
JENNY: Yeah, but you were but you were a couple.
- SCOTT: Yeah.
- JENNY: And now you're not a couple - and that's that's got to that's got to hurt.
- SCOTT: Yeah.
Well, yeah, no, it's very tough.
You know, I made a lot of decisions that weren't great, you know? JENNY: So, do you think you can I don't want to say "win her back", but - do you think you can - SCOTT: Oh, I don't know.
I have absolutely no control over an everybody and anybody else, other than myself.
And all I can do is just stay on the right path, and if things fall into place and they're meant to be, I believe that they will be.
JENNY: Right.
Scott made a real effort to come all the way, to to be with us, and I'm glad I got to bond with him a little.
But it's just kind of ironic.
I'm not the person he came there to bond with.
KIP: Oh, my God! Wow! JENNY: Have you ever had an oyster? - CANDIS: Chandi likes oysters.
- SCOTT: Caitlyn, I haven't talked to you all night.
CAITLYN: I know.
- JENNY: She can sit over here.
- SCOTT: No, no.
COURTNEY: CAITLYN: No, I'm not ignoring him.
He's over there.
SCOTT: I'm not that far.
CAITLYN: But, for me, with my ears, you are that far, yeah.
SCOTT: I Is it really your ears, or you just don't want to listen? CANDIS: You're cute.
I could totally kiss you.
What are you thinking? SCOTT: I'm here for you.
I'm not here for just your people.
- CAITLYN: I know.
Have a seat.
- SCOTT: You know what I mean? CAITLYN: I know, I know.
SCOTT: I've spent more time with them than I have with you.
SCOTT: I haven't talked to you all night.
CAITLYN: I know.
- JENNY: She can sit over here.
- SCOTT: No, no.
COURTNEY: CAITLYN: No, I'm not ignoring him.
He's over there.
SCOTT: I'm not that far.
CAITLYN: But, for me, with my ears, you are that far, yeah.
SCOTT: Is it really your ears, or you just don't want to listen? CAITLYN: Well, maybe two Yeah, one of two things, yeah.
- SCOTT: I always wondered.
- CAITLYN: Combination.
SCOTT: Okay.
I'll settle with both.
CAITLYN: Boom, you got it.
SCOTT: Good night, ladies and - gentlemen.
- CAITLYN: "Ladies" is enough.
KATE: I think he's upset or embarrassed or something.
He went bam.
CAITLYN: Yeah.
Yeah, I have I've known Scott for a long time, yeah.
And I would much rather deal with something like that, which is a little strange, than having to deal with him being, you know, hammered, you know, all the things that go along with that.
(crickets chirping) CANDIS: I'm gonna go grab a drink with Andrew.
CAITLYN: Don't do anything I wouldn't do.
CANDIS: You have ten children.
(both laugh) - CAITLYN: I'll see you guys later.
- CANDIS: Gonna go have a drink.
Have a good night, you guys! ELLA: Love you.
- ANDREW: Let's have a drink.
- CANDIS: Let's have a drink.
- ANDREW: Have you ever had a Moscow Mule? - CANDIS: I did recently.
ANDREW: You want to try some? CANDIS: Yeah, I'll try it.
- ANDREW: It's good.
- CANDIS: The ginger is a nice flavor.
ANDREW: I know.
So you haven't seen the Arch yet.
This is this is the closest you've been so far.
CANDIS: Yeah.
This is, like, the best view.
- Let's go out and look.
- ANDREW: Let's go.
Man, it's windy.
CANDIS: It is kind of windy.
- I'll be fine.
- ANDREW: Are you sure? You want my jacket? - CANDIS: Okay.
- ANDREW: All right.
There you go.
Okay.
CANDIS: Are you cold now? ANDREW: I'm good.
As long as you're warm.
- CANDIS: Here.
- ANDREW: Oh.
- CANDIS: Yeah.
- ANDREW: I'll get under the jacket? CANDIS: You have to share it with me.
You're gonna get cold.
There's no denying there is a little bit of chemistry there, and so it's really nice to be able to, like, actually have something with somebody that I like.
I have to say, you're a very sweet guy.
ANDREW: Well, thank you.
You're amazing.
- CANDIS: Thank you.
- ANDREW: You are amazing.
You're sweet.
CANDIS: Are you nervous? - Am I making you nervous? - ANDREW: No, you're not making me nervous.
- You're not making me nervous.
- CANDIS: Okay, good.
Um well, I'm just kind of, like, one of those people that kind of goes with the flow.
You know what I mean? Just like What what are you thinking? ANDREW: Are you meaning like more than what's going on right here? CANDIS: Well, I mean, of course.
I'm, like You're cute.
I could totally kiss you.
- You know, that kind of thing.
- ANDREW: Mm-hmm.
I don't think I really could go there just yet.
You know? CANDIS: Okay.
Okay, well, I've (laughs) - On that note, I'm gonna go to bed.
- ANDREW: Okay.
You okay? CANDIS: No, I'm good.
- I'll see you - ANDREW: So, tomorrow morning? CANDIS: I'll I'll call you.
ANDREW: Candis.
CANDIS: I just felt like maybe we had a connection, and then I just assumed it was 'cause - of the trans thing.
- ANDREW: It's, um I just CAITLYN: What were your big concerns? TINA: I'm a person that's, uh, very religious.
I was very hurt.
CAITLYN: All right, we're recording.
You know, tough day coming up.
This is my first day to participate in the Transgender Day of Remembrance.
Uh, we've lost a lot of very good people that should be with us here today.
Um, it's a very emotional time for my community and for people all around the world.
So, tough day for everybody, but, uh, we need to do it.
- (doorbell rings) - CANDIS: Hello? - ANDREW: Hey.
- CANDIS: Hey.
- Come on in.
- ANDREW: How's it going? - CANDIS: It's going good.
- ANDREW: Good.
Do you have time to talk? CANDIS: Yeah, sure.
- How are you? What's up? What's going on? - ANDREW: Good.
Uh, nothing, just getting ready.
Got to head out later on today.
Some things came up, so I have to fly out.
- CANDIS: Okay.
- ANDREW: Yeah.
But, um So, last night, what happened? CANDIS: I don't know.
I just was kind of over it, - to be honest with you.
- ANDREW: But over what? CANDIS: I don't know.
We were talking and I was like, "What's going on with you?" And you were like, "I can't do this.
" ANDREW: Right, right.
CANDIS: I just felt like we had, you know - ANDREW: Like, something.
- CANDIS: something.
- ANDREW: Like a spark? - CANDIS: So, I I don't know.
I mean I And then I just assumed it was 'cause of the trans thing and ANDREW: It's, um I just You could say yes.
That could be Uh, uh, but, honestly, that's a big issue, yes.
Um, but at the same time, like, there's noth there's no judgment, there's no anything like that, um, by all means.
It's just something that it's just not me.
CANDIS: All right.
Um I kind of knew it was the trans thing.
It's like the the tables are stacked against you, you know, your whole life.
It's tough, because you never have a break, you know? Sometimes you get glimmers of that moment that could be, and then most of the time it doesn't happen.
It really hits home.
(indistinct chatter) CAITLYN: Good morning.
There you are.
TINA: How's my baby doing today? CAITLYN: Mama, I'm doing good.
Let's get some breakfast going.
CAITLYN: The other night, when I was, uh, in Chicago, - we went to the Baton - TINA: Uh-huh.
CAITLYN: and Chandi was bringing the house down.
TINA: Uh-huh, yeah, looking like Patti LaBelle, huh? - CAITLYN: Have you been to her shows? - TINA: Oh, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
CAITLYN: Since today is - Transgender Day of Remembrance - CHANDI: Mm-hmm.
CAITLYN: I kind of heard that, at the beginning, it was tough on you.
What were your big concerns? TINA: At first, I was very hurt.
I questioned myself as a mom.
KATE: We are the first generations who are actively bringing about the end of transphobia.
(cheering) CAITLYN: I have been isolated my entire life.
I I never felt like I fit in anywhere.
And I know that's probably the feeling that you get sometimes.
SCOTT: Yeah, that's for sure.
TINA: At first, I was very hurt.
I questioned myself as a mom.
Took me a while to get my grips on this here.
'Cause first of all, I'd never CAITLYN: I was gonna say, you had no idea what even the word "transgender" was, did you? A and which is most cases, yeah.
TINA: When I started looking at the fact and I'm seeing the things around my child young ladies getting murdered, young ladies are being abused would I want my child like that? No.
No.
CAITLYN: Did you have fear for her safety at the beginning? TINA: Yes, I did.
And yeah, I still fear.
- CAITLYN: You still feel that way? - TINA: Yes.
Yes.
CAITLYN: It's hard for me to accept that Chandi could actually be at risk just being out in the public.
Unfortunately, this is the reality of living in a transphobic world that doesn't accept trans people.
TINA: You know, I am a person that's, uh, very religious, and I think what really keeps me on the positive side is that just because my child might not be like me but they're still my child.
So that's what God said in his word.
He said, your, uh, situations may be a little different, but guess what? - He made us all.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
TINA: We have to learn how to love and accept them for what they are.
You can't be pulling against them, - you got to pull for 'em.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
TINA: Especially when when you have a child that's - about doing something positive.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
You just have to be so proud of what she's doing.
TINA: I'm very proud.
- CAITLYN: You know? - TINA: I'm very proud.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
- TINA: I really am.
(elevator beeping) (elevator bell dings) CAITLYN: Chandi's mom is such an inspiration, 'cause she never gave up on her child.
And look how Chandi has turned out she's doing so much good.
Kind of the same way I feel with Scott.
I always wanna be there for him.
I don't wanna give up on Scott, and hopefully, he can turn his life around.
SCOTT: Coming! - Com - CAITLYN: It's locked! - Scotty.
- SCOTT: If you're a woman now, I think you need to tone down your knock.
CAITLYN: You think so? It should be more gentle? - (Scott pounding on door) - Not like that? SCOTT: Yeah.
- CAITLYN: How you doin'? - SCOTT: What's happening? CAITLYN: Well, I heard you were thinking about leaving, number one.
And I don't think you should.
We have this ceremony tonight, I think it would be good for you.
SCOTT: Yeah, but again, I'm here for you.
I'm not here for just your people.
- CAITLYN: I know.
Have a seat.
- SCOTT: You know what I mean? - CAITLYN: I know, I know, - SCOTT: I've spent more time with them than I have with you.
SCOTT: I'm here for you.
I'm not here for just - your people.
- CAITLYN: Have a s have a seat.
- SCOTT: You know what I mean? - CAITLYN: I know, I know, SCOTT: I've spent more time with them than I have with you.
CAITLYN: But I know.
But all of these people have a lot in common with you.
I have been isolated my entire life.
I I never felt like I fit in anywhere.
When I finally decided to be true with myself and come out, I surrounded myself with some really great people all these girls that have so much in common with me.
My life changed around immediately.
And I feel like you're kind of in the same place here.
The the whole, you know, drinking thing and all that kind of stuff it just it's not good.
And you certainly don't find happiness there.
SCOTT: Mm-mm.
I used to always think that when I was drunk the real me came out.
And I always thought the real me was a bad person.
And I've realized that, you know, substances make people something else.
It's not really who they are.
So I've been able to kind of forgive myself for all the things, and now I'm just focusing on actually being me.
I've just been happy for the first time in a long time.
CAITLYN: You got to make some major changes, but it's all for the good.
Now, I mean, I look at my life now, I've never been in a better place in life than I am right now.
Better than the Games, standing on top of a platform.
SCOTT: You know, whatever you want to do, and I'm there to do with you.
CAITLYN: I want you to know that I'm there for you, too.
It seems like Scott is getting his act together.
He seems more self-aware.
To me, that's progress.
I've been through a lot.
He's been through a lot.
And it's not going through these issues, it's how you come out the other side.
It's all good.
Life's very short, as we all know.
SCOTT: Yeah, that's for sure.
CAITLYN: Yeah.
Don't throw it away.
- Yeah.
- SCOTT: Listen, now that we've had this talk, I mean, I feel more comfortable.
I just felt like I felt a little bit of an outsider, even here, so it kind of got me down.
But I can I can push the flight a little and go with you to this - remembrance thing.
- CAITLYN: Yeah, no I think I think it'd be good, yeah, - I think it would be good to go.
- SCOTT: All right.
CAITLYN: Give me a hug.
Good.
All right, we'll see you.
Get ready.
SCOTT: You may need to tone down your hugs, too, with the - CAITLYN: It's good.
- SCOTT: It's like the door knock.
CAITLYN: I know.
- CANDIS: Hi.
Hi.
How are you? - LEON: Hi! - CANDIS: Candis.
- MISS LEON: Hi.
I'm Miss Leon.
Nice to meet you.
Here you go.
CAITLYN: Hello.
How are you doing? Nice to see you.
CHANDI: Having my mom here for Transgender Day of Remembrance is so amazing.
And it will be great for her to be amongst all these trans people who are paying homage to those who have been lost this year.
SPEAKER: So, now we will hear the names and the stories of some of those lives.
WOMAN: CANDIS: We've had a really tough year.
(crying): But when you read the names, it really hits home.
- CAITLYN: - VARIOUS VOICES: CANDIS: Any one of us could be in a situation where we could be just like our brothers and sisters who are murdered because you are trans.
MISS LEON: We must remember that out of tragedy comes hope, resilience and triumph.
I'm here to support, maintain and nurture this trans memorial garden, which, again, is the very first of its kind in the nation.
We are making history right here, in The Grove, in St.
Louis, in the Midwest.
- (cheering) - Hey, yes! History is being made.
KATE: Well, thank you, St.
Louis, for putting this here.
I want to acknowledge that we are the first generations who are actively bringing about the end of transphobia.
KATE: Thank you so much! (cheering, whooping) MATT BEILIS: 'Cause whatever we are, we are CAITLYN: Trans Day of Remembrance was actually a very beautiful experience.
Having an opportunity to pay respect to these people for who they were, for me, is very important.
And it's nice to kind of be reminded of what the issues are out there.
SPEAKER: And we claim this space as living and sacred.
BEILIS: Whatever we are , we are - KRIS: Hi! - CANDIS: Still to come this season on I Am Cait CAITLYN: Candis! CANDIS: That's a big stick.
CAITLYN: Nobody's told me that in a long time.
(laughter, cheering) - JENNY: That's what I'm talking about! - ELLA: Kiss.
- (laughter) - CAITLYN: Hand hug! SCOTT: How much are trees? $100? Aye, aye, aye.
CANDIS: We have to talk about something.
"Presidential hopeful Ted Cruz opposes equality for transgender people because he thinks trans kids will molest his daughters.
" CAITLYN: Wow.
MARA: There is a partisan slant to this.
Watch your candidates this year.
When they do messed up stuff, you call them out.
JENNY: Republicans, your people, they don't like us.
CAITLYN: They're not my people if they're against this issue.
I think he's just totally misinformed.
CANDIS: That was a huge step.
CAITLYN: You're absolutely right.
I just want to apologize for the way I acted.
It didn't have to be that way.
A little disobediance, girls? - What do you say? - KATE: Seriously, that could mean arrest.
- You're becoming a leftist activist.
- (cheering) You found out how to express yourself as a woman and listen, and for that, you've earned my respect and complete support.
CAITLYN: I love you all.