I Am Cait (2015) s02e08 Episode Script
Houston, We Have a Problem
1 CANDIS: Tonight on the season finale of I Am Cait CAITLYN: I love Candis.
She is always willing to go have some fun.
- COURTNEY: If you two kiss on the lips - KIP: So if you guys kiss, - she'll sing.
- COURTNEY: she'll sing.
(Ella laughs) ELLA: Just looking at my dad, I just feel my heart jumping.
You know, I was almost getting emancipated.
- PETER: It would be your loss.
You did - ELLA: It almost was yours.
CANDIS: "Presidential hopeful Ted Cruz opposes equality for transgender people.
" KATE: You're in a position to actually change things.
CAITLYN: Maybe the best thing to do is go to Houston, - take a look at it.
- KATE: Uh, that could mean arrest.
CAITLYN: There it is.
That's the church.
JENNY: I'm petrified.
(crickets chirping) KRIS: Hi.
Wow! - CAITLYN: Nice purse, baby! - KRIS: You clean up nice! - CAITLYN: Well, thank you, baby.
- JENNY: A delight to see you again.
KRIS: Hey.
Oh, my God, if you dance with me again, - I'd be so excited.
- JENNY: Yeah, oh, my, we had fun.
- CAITLYN: Cheers, baby.
- KRIS: Cheers.
JENNY: We wish you a Merry Christmas.
CAITLYN: Cheers! Cheers! ELLA: Is this Kris's first girls' night? CAITLYN: We have a tradition at girls' night.
To get in, you have to be voted on by the board.
KRIS: I'm screwed.
- (laughter) - CAITLYN: Yeah, I know.
So, a raise of hands, should we vote her in? - KRIS: Please vote for me! - CAITLYN: Just raise your hand.
JENNY: Absolutely! CAITLYN: You actually get an official girls' night bracelet.
- KRIS: Aw! Thanks, guys.
- CAITLYN: You're voted in.
- I know, I know.
- KRIS: Thank you.
I feel very honored.
So cool.
CAITLYN: Anyway, next on Caitlyn's world adventures - is a ski trip to Mammoth.
- (quiet gasp) CANDIS: I've never skied.
- I've always wanted to learn how to ski.
- CAITLYN: Perfect.
ELLA: I grew up skiing, so I have some I have some background.
- I might need to get used to it again.
- CAITLYN: Okay, good! KATE: I will make you cocoa.
(laughter) - ELLA: Hi.
How are you? - CAITLYN: Hi, Peter.
- ELLA: My dad, Peter.
- PETER: Thank you so much.
- CANDIS: Peter, hi.
How are you? - CAITLYN: Hello, babe! - PETER: A pleasure.
- ELLA: I ended up meeting Cait through Ronda, Cait's best friend, slash assistant.
RONDA: So, guys, I don't think you've all met her, but this is Ella.
She's a dear friend of mine for many years.
ELLA: I grew up with Ronda.
My dad and her were "friends.
" (laughter) PETER: I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart.
You just opened up so many doors, not only for my daughter, but for many others.
- CAITLYN: I appreciate that.
- PETER: I really appreciate it.
When she became who she is, she became more confident, more happy in her skin.
- CAITLYN: Yeah, that's good.
- CANDIS: It's important for people to see trans kids that have amazing, supportive fathers, so, I mean, that's really great - PETER: Thank you so much.
- CANDIS: that you've been that way.
PETER: People ask me, "How did you do it?" I go, "Well, it's your kid.
You shut the door and let it be dark, - or you open it and let the light shine in.
" - CANDIS: Yeah.
PETER: It's as simple as that.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
- PETER: I mean, what're you gonna do, abandon? You love that child regardless.
- CANDIS: And now she's - PETER: I'm blessed.
(sighs heavily) ELLA: My relationship with my dad.
I've just kind of closed off myself from him.
Transitioning it was a long process and, um, my dad wasn't very accepting at that time.
PETER: It was really crazy when she went through her trans (stammering) - ELLA: Transition.
- PETER: Transition.
- I have clients for 28 years - CANDIS: Yeah.
PETER: that go, "How's your son?" - Yeah.
- (Candis laughs) PETER: And, um, you know, I'm telling you, um, from my feedback, it's it's they're accepting of her being my daughter.
- CANDIS: Yeah.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
PETER: But, uh, and I'm and I'm an advocate, you know.
I'm I'm right I've got all your backs.
ELLA: I do have an accepting father now, and I'm grateful for that, but, um, it was kind of hard to watch him, um, play that role when he never He didn't He played another role for a very long time.
CAITLYN: It's a rainbow, baby.
PETER: And we're all in it.
(birds chirping) - CAITLYN: Let's go, guys! - CANDIS: Yes! - CAITLYN: Let's move it! - CANDIS: Wow.
I feel like I'm in a hobbit house.
(Caitlyn chuckles) CAITLYN: And the road trip continues! I'm taking 'em skiing.
It's too bad Chandi and, also, Zackary can't make it.
Jenny Boylan and Kate Bornstein are gonna meet us up in Mammoth, so trip's gonna be a lot of fun.
Plus, I get to ski.
Not bad.
- It was great meeting your dad.
- CANDIS: It was great.
CAITLYN: He was the perfect father.
ELLA: Um, to be honest, um, I kind of felt like he glorified himself in some ways, because he never really seemed to be there for my transition.
We kind of kind of sugarcoated over the fact that it was like war.
I almost got emancipated from him, and then, all of a sudden, when it was right for him, he decided to take the title of the the hero dad.
CAITLYN: Wow.
Have you talked to your dad about your feelings? ELLA: I think I'm, um, scared of facing him.
It definitely is kind of a sensitive territory.
I think I've just cut those emotions off.
- CANDIS: He needs to know how you feel.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
CANDIS: 'Cause that's the only way you can repair - your side of things.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
- CANDIS: And move on.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
CANDIS: Okay, I've always wanted to do this.
I'm just letting you guys know.
CAITLYN: I love Candis.
One, she's a good friend.
Two, she is always willing to go have some fun.
Go, Candis! Let's rock and roll.
SINGER: Hey, I'm strung out ELLA: Woo-hoo! (Courtney chuckles) COURTNEY: Go! SINGER: Hey, I'm strung out CANDIS: Twisting, twisting.
(groans, laughs) SINGER: Is it time to find the way for me? (whoops) - (groans, giggles) - CAITLYN: Come on, Candis! - Turn it in! - (Candis chuckles) COURTNEY: Where's, um, Jenny and Kate? CAITLYN: Uh, unfortunately, their flight cancelled in L.
A.
ELLA: Are they driving up? CAITLYN: I don't know.
They should.
- KIP: Those two together.
- COURTNEY: At night, at night.
- CANDIS: Oh, my God.
- COURTNEY: I mean, - that's insane.
- KIP: For five hours.
- CANDIS: Kate and Jenny together for five hours.
- KIP: In the car by themselves.
(laughter) COURTNEY: This salmon is so good.
Wow.
ELLA: I want to talk to you about this.
I I do a lot of, like, writing music, um, on my free time and stuff CANDIS: Well, what about singing? Can you sing? ELLA: I don't have the highest voice in the world.
COURTNEY: Can you sing us a little tune? - ELLA: I'm not No, I'm very insecure.
- COURTNEY: Just a little something.
KIP: How about we do a barter system? - ELLA: Okay.
- KIP: What would Cait and Candis have to do in order to make you sing? - ELLA: Oh, that's easy.
- COURTNEY: What? - ELLA: Kiss.
- (Candis chuckles) - KIP: I know.
So, if you guys kiss - COURTNEY: If you two kiss - on the lips, she'll sing.
- KIP: she'll sing.
WOMAN: Which one's Candis? - ALL: Oh! - CHANDI: Candis and Caitlyn in the tree, - K-I-S-S-I-N-G! - ZACKARY: Yes, I love it! - (Caitlyn laughs) - CANDIS: Tada! KIP: No one has ever challenged Caitlyn Jenner to anything that she hasn't stepped up to the plate.
COURTNEY: You might as well use your lips.
Both of you have gorgeous lips.
- Just, like, smack 'em together.
- ELLA: It's like a friendship cuddle, - a lip snuggle.
- (Candis laughs) - COURTNEY: I mean, just go in - CANDIS: Yeah.
- Court! - ELLA: Think of it as like a dare, - fun friendly dare.
- COURTNEY: Yeah! - ELLA: I will kiss anyone.
- COURTNEY: We double dog dare you.
(Candis laughs) - CAITLYN: What? - COURTNEY: Ooh.
Oh.
Oh.
(Candis laughs) (laughter) ELLA: There was tongue, and it was like, - one Mississippi, two.
- KIP: And I had I was on the edge of my seat.
- JENNY: Well, well, well.
- ELLA: I was so NEWSMAN: The HERO Measure in Houston has been repealed.
Five conservative Christian pastors in Houston - have been leading the charge - JENNY: Republicans.
Your people.
They don't like us.
KATE: It sounds like to me that we are entering bathrooms with the intention of creating a disturbance.
- - Seriously, that could mean arrest.
KIP: No one has ever challenged Caitlyn Jenner to anything that she hasn't stepped up to the plate.
- CAITLYN: What? - COURTNEY: Ooh.
Oh.
Oh.
(Candis laughs) - (gasping, laughter) - KIP: Yes! - Yes! - (clapping, pounding) COURTNEY: Oh, my God! ELLA: (bleep) I have to sing! CANDIS: Look it, they're all, like, huddling.
(laughter) COURTNEY: That was not the kind of kiss I was expecting! - KIP: Once more! - COURTNEY: Oh, my God! CAITLYN: I can't believe everybody talked me into giving her a kiss.
But it's good, because that's the most action I've got in the last two and a half years.
(Chuckles) COURTNEY: It's confirming everything.
CANDIS: Oh, my God, it is.
That was crazy.
(Chuckles) I mean, it was all a joke.
Truth or Dare, you know.
That kind of thing.
We're just friends.
- CAITLYN: But it was good.
- CANDIS: Yeah, you you're a good kisser.
- CAITLYN: What room ya in? - (laughter) (wind whistling) - ELLA: There they are! - KATE: Welcome! - Wind chill all of a sudden.
- JENNY: Hi, sweetie.
- ELLA: My love! - JENNY: How are ya? ELLA: We have a lot to talk about.
KIP: You missed an entertaining dinner.
I said, "What would Candis and Cait have to do to make you sing?" And Ella said, "Kiss.
" - She just went in for it.
- JENNY: So Really? KIP: There was a little tongue wrestling.
- JENNY: Well, well, well - ELLA: No, no, no.
It was not just There was tongue, and it was, like JENNY: Many many good relationships have begun with a dare.
(laughter) I think mine did.
(laughter) - ELLA: Hi! - CANDIS: You guys made it, and that's what's important.
JENNY: I understand you made it, too.
- (Candis scoffs) - COURTNEY: The news traveled already? JENNY: Well, it got down to the down to the gondola.
So, did you have a friendly, platonic kiss? - CAITLYN: I thought it was pretty damn good.
- CANDIS (laughing): Yeah.
- COURTNEY: Was there was there tongue involved? - CAITLYN: I don't know about you, but I thought it was was really good.
JENNY: Yay! - CAITLYN: No, it was fun.
- CANDIS: Oh, it was fun.
CAITLYN: I think it's clearing up.
- (laughter) - KIP: Is that the sun? CANDIS: It says here, in PinkNews, "Presidential hopeful Ted Cruz worried transgendered kids might molest his daughters - in the shower.
" - KATE: Holy (bleep).
CANDIS: "The Republican senator opposes basic equality - for transgender people.
" - ELLA: Oh.
JENNY: There is a movement among some conservatives against LGBT people, and of late, trans people in particular.
I'm thinking of the Houston thing, for instance.
In Houston, an act called "The HERO Act," which guaranteed equality not just for LGBT people, but for all people, was in fact, repealed.
There was a campaign for the repeal of "The HERO Act" that was run by a group of ministers and it was run, um, largely by conservative Republicans.
The tactic that was used against our community was the threat that there would be sick men preying upon our children in restrooms.
WOMAN: Any man at anytime could enter a woman's bathroom simply by claiming to be a woman that day.
No one is exempt.
Even registered sex offenders.
Protect women's privacy, prevent danger, vote no on the Proposition 1 bathroom ordinance.
It goes too far.
(door slams) JENNY: It was shocking.
It was a lie, and it happened to work.
Is it your sense that you could talk to any of the Republican candidates and about this issue and win them over? CAITLYN: Well, I don't really want to get involved politically on on that level.
Like, I'm gonna go out and do political stuff, no.
KATE: You're in a position to actually change things.
You're in a position to say, "Yo, I am a conservative and I'm a Republican, - I believe in small government, and " - CAITLYN: Mm-hmm.
KATE: " lay off the queers.
" JENNY: She's a leader now, whether she likes it or not.
And she needs to stand in solidarity with the trans community on LGBT equality.
She needs to understand how it how urgent this this work is.
CANDIS: Are you gonna talk to your dad? It will only strengthen your relationship.
CHANDI: Houston, we really do have a problem.
Going to the bathroom is something that everyone does.
CAITLYN: A little disobedience I say we go visit some bathrooms.
What do you say? - ELLA: Hello? - CANDIS: Hello? - ELLA: Slumber party! - JENNY: Hi, darling.
- ELLA: Hi.
- CAITLYN: Wine, anybody? JENNY: Oh, maybe just a glass.
- ELLA: So, um, Caitlyn - (cork pops) ELLA: I was looking on Facebook, and I, knowing you, I understand where you're coming from - CAITLYN: What did I say now?! - ELLA: You made a comment, - um, I think it was - CAITLYN: What was my comment? - ELLA: Presi - JENNY: It's a thing we've actually heard you say before, and it's within the much larger context of the Time magazine article.
CANDIS: That if you look like a man in a dress, - it makes other people uncomfortable.
- CAITLYN: Is that bad? Does the trans community look at that and go, "Oh, my God"? JENNY: Here's the thing.
There is a movement among some conservatives to demonize transgender people.
The tactic used against our community was the threat that there would be sick men in dresses preying upon our children.
CANDIS: And so, when you refer to us as "men in dresses," you're validating all of these pastors and politicians that are using scare tactics against us.
We've been fighting that image for decades.
CAITLYN: Wow.
Oh, my God.
CANDIS: Cait is a representative of our community, and so she does have to think before she speaks, because the world grabs onto everything she says.
And with the phrase "men in dresses," Cait really screwed up.
We have to change the way people look at people who are transitioning or transitioned.
We have to show that it's okay to be, you know, non-conforming.
JENNY: People need to know you're fighting for everybody, not just the pretty ones.
CAITLYN: You're absolutely right.
And I agree with that.
I totally agree with everything you're saying.
- JENNY: Exactly.
- CANDIS: Yeah.
CAITLYN: So, how then, do I word it? Let me think.
What about, uh, we have a lot of people that are gender non-conforming, that are just very comfortable with themselves, uh, in the way that they look, and it may not be the norm, uh, within society, but they're comfortable with the way they look.
- JENNY: "And I'm fighting for them, too.
" - CAITLYN: And I'm fighting for them, too.
- (excited stammering) - CANDIS: So you did it! JENNY: Yeah! That's how you do it! - CANDIS: That's how you do it! - CAITLYN: Okay! Wow.
- CANDIS: Cheers to that.
- CAITLYN: I want to yeah, - here's to that, okay.
- JENNY: I thought we were just gonna hang out.
CAITLYN: The last thing I want to do is create more, you know, stereotypes of our community.
The girls have taught me that that term, "a man in a dress," is the way the kind of "anti-trans" people out there refer to us.
I never really thought of it that way, but the girls kind of opened my mind up to that.
So, um, yeah, I don't think I'll use that phrase again.
- JENNY: One of the things that we can do is - CAITLYN: What can we do? JENNY: we can send out the message that no matter how you look, it's okay.
You have every much as right to your life and authenticity as anybody.
And the way you send out that message? Well, if only you had a TV show or something - (Candis chuckles) - JENNY: where where - you could - CAITLYN: Maybe we should look into that.
(Candis laughs) (Caitlyn whoops) (exclaims, laughs) CANDIS: How did it go for you? CAITLYN: Good! Knee's sore.
I'm kind of done.
CANDIS: How did you do, El? ELLA: It was pretty steep in some parts, the very beginning, but, um, we ended up getting to a side of the mountain where it was, like perfect.
CANDIS: So, are you gonna are you gonna talk to your dad when you get home? - ELLA: I don't know, I mean - CANDIS: About how you're feeling.
ELLA: It's to the point where it's like our relationship now is, like, intermediately decent.
Do I interfere with that? Even though, like, obviously, I I will admit I do have, like, a little issues with it.
- CANDIS: Right.
- ELLA: When it's brought up, you know? CANDIS: I mean, you could talk to him about it in a positive way, say, "Oh, this is how I used to feel.
" I think that it will only strengthen your relationship - if you, like, just tell him how you felt.
- ELLA: Yeah.
CANDIS: But it could be ELLA: Do I want to strengthen it, though? The wounds that are there have led me to not really want to pursue, you know something better.
Kind of just like, "I'm okay with it, let's just keep it like this.
" CANDIS: Maybe it's a good thing to just tell him how you used to feel; as much for you, I think, you'll get out of it, he will also.
ELLA: Yeah.
CAITLYN: We're stuck, baby.
Morning.
- KATE: Good morning, lovely.
- CAITLYN: Good morning.
Morning.
- CANDIS: Ella - JENNY: Breakfast! CAITLYN: Do we have a plan for the day? - JENNY: Yes.
Excuse me, Kate.
- KATE: Shopping! JENNY: I'm gonna go shopping with with Kate B.
- CAITLYN: You two have bonded.
- KATE: We have.
- JENNY: Well, well, yeah.
- KATE: We have.
At the hip.
CAITLYN: Yeah, when we started this, you didn't know if you even wanted to come because of um, Miss Boylan.
- JENNY: Mm, yeah.
- KATE: Doing it.
CAITLYN: That's what makes our country great.
That we can have differences of opinion and hopefully take the best opinions, put 'em together and come up with something that's constructive for as many people as we possibly can.
JENNY: I was thinking about Houston and The Hero Act.
I went online before I went to sleep and found a number of links.
My concern is that there really appears to me to be a shocking amount of, um, hatred of LGB and especially T people, that drove the Houston repeal.
It was largely driven by conservatives, it was driven by people who stood on CAITLYN: No, it was driven by people, we don't know what their political stuff was or if it was even true, but it was delivered, it was, yeah.
JENNY: Cait has a disconnect.
She does not accept that there is any element in either the Republican Party or the conservative movement that has ever been against LGBT people.
And that stops today.
MAN (over computer): The Hero Measure in Houston has beenrepealed.
Five conservative Christian pastors in Houston, known as The Houston Five, have been leading the charge to repeal the Houston Equal Rights ordinance meant to prohibit discrimination of public accommodations.
Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz was quoted as saying that, "We should all be proud to stand up and defend the pastors.
" CAITLYN: Well.
I think he's just totally misinformed, yeah.
JENNY: Ted Cruz said that.
Republicans your people they don't like us.
CAITLYN: They're not my people if they're against this issue.
So, big deal.
I'm I'm not, like, oh, cheering them on.
KATE: You are; you're voting for Ted Cruz! You're cheering him on! CAITLYN: Um, because I think he can take care of the big issues.
KATE: It's not either/or.
You can't say you're not cheering people on and then say Ted Cruz, who uses "trans" as a slur any chance he gets Nah.
ELLA: Just looking at my dad, and just knowing that I was gonna confront him about everything, I could just feel my heart jumping out of my chest.
PETER: What's up? CAITLYN: There it is that's the church.
- JENNY: We may be provoking trouble.
- CAITLYN: Here we go.
KATE: Caitlyn said to the reverend, "Your comments are highly offensive to all trans people.
" And no one has said that to his face before that.
KATE: Ted Cruz said that one of the first things he's gonna do when he gets in office is strike down Obama's memo saying, "You got to treat trans people like human beings.
" - There's Republican ideology.
- CAITLYN: Right.
KATE: It has nothing to do with homophobia and transphobia, and yet, they are stirring it up and using it to get votes.
CAITLYN: I know.
I agree with that.
I'm looking for the same thing.
The entire bathroom issue, this is something that all us girls have to be, you know, unified on.
To understand this issue better, maybe the best thing to do is go to Houston.
I would love to sit down with these pastors - who have made a big thing.
Say, - JENNY: Oh, so CAITLYN: "What's your issue here?" One of the things I realized is the more conservative side has been, uh, less open to our community.
I want the girls to know that, certainly, when it comes to trans issues, I'm gonna be on the same fight as them.
So, I think it's time to go to Houston.
CANDIS: Don't walk into a bathroom.
(chuckles) CAITLYN: Uh, well, we can walk into a bathroom.
Yeah, I'm certainly not going in the men's room.
CANDIS: I know that Cait is a Republican.
She's not gonna switch parties.
So, you know, hearing her acknowledge that it is mostly the Republican Party which is giving roadblock after roadblock to every important issue that matters to us.
That was a huge step.
KATE: I want to congratulate all of us here, how far we've come from that explosive day on the bus.
- CANDIS: Oh, God.
- KATE: We're now able to talk about this (bleep).
- JENNY: Everyone put your hand in.
- CAITLYN: And all of us together come on, Kate, put it in there.
- (laughter) - There, put it in there! - ALL: One, two, three! - (All cheer) (Ella sighs) ELLA: Do you want something to eat? PETER: Yes, I'm hungry.
ELLA: Okay.
I am so nervous.
Just looking at my dad, and just knowing that I am gonna confront him about everything I can just feel my heart jumping out of my chest.
PETER: What's up? ELLA: Um, I actually, um did want to talk to you about some stuff.
Um Don't take it the, like, I I don't want to, like, I I'm not trying to attack you.
During lunch with Cait and Candis, um, it was hard listening to you as the accepting father.
I didn't even realize that there was still kind of, like, some inner frustration and anger.
I don't want to say I'm angry with you, but in a way, I kind of PETER: I know it was difficult in the beginning.
I understand.
It was, it was very hard for me to accept it.
- ELLA: Yeah, but - PETER: Understand it.
- ELLA: It was terrible.
- PETER: It was hard.
I mean, I was a wreck.
ELLA: Do you know I was almost you know I was almost getting emancipated? PETER: What? Explain that.
- ELLA: It's the truth.
- PETER: Explain that.
That you were gonna take away my fatherhood from you is that what that means? Tell me.
- ELLA: I was.
- PETER: You did, really? ELLA: I almost did.
PETER: Are you kidding? ELLA: I didn't tell you, but that's how hard it was at the - PETER: Is this Now - ELLA: And I think it's funny that we can laugh about this, in a sense, because it's, like, where you are now, from where you were, - but that's just the degree.
- PETER: You know, I I got to be, I I got to be straight up.
It would be your loss.
I tell you, I'm gonna be, tell you the truth, it would be your loss.
- 'Cause if anything I did - ELLA: It almost was yours, too.
PETER: But I would've fought for you.
ELLA: You weren't fighting.
KATE: It sounds like, to me, that we are entering bathrooms with the intention of creating a disturbance.
So, you know, seriously, uh, that could mean arrest.
JENNY: I'm petrified.
I'm, uh, a transgender woman who's in town looking for a place to worship.
CAITLYN: Caitlyn Jenner here.
- (line clicks) - (all gasping) (all murmuring in surprise) PETER: But I would've fought for you.
ELLA: You weren't fighting.
That's just the degree of hurt that I was feeling.
PETER: I get it, I remember.
I I by the way, - I don't like to think back.
- ELLA: I don't, either.
PETER: I don't like to think back to the way that - ELLA: Hi.
- PETER: I I had to deal with that.
Thank you so much.
ELLA: I think one of the problems also was that, if I mention it, it would just be more of You know how you said you don't like to talk about those days, you know.
- PETER: The past.
- ELLA: "I want to keep that there, it's the past.
" But I felt like you never acknowledged - the pain.
- PETER: Well, I acknowledge it now.
I'm sorry.
I love you, you know? Through this transition, I see my daughter blossom like a flower.
Guess what? Her father's blossoming like a flower through you.
ELLA: Oh, Dad! I love you! I do.
(Ella laughs) PETER: You're an amazing human being.
I'm I'm proud of you, babe, with all my heart.
I'll be better, always.
(Ella sobs softly) ELLA: Okay.
Thank you.
I guess I've always subconsciously labeled my dad's love as conditional, but, um, today, it was like I saw him for the first time.
(sniffles) Um, I think this is definitely a starting point for us to go from here and only get better.
PETER: Life is a blessing, and we're gonna continue to grow, and we're gonna continue to love, and we're gonna - be good humans, okay, babe? - ELLA: Yeah.
(laughs) I need some bacon now.
(laughs) (birds chirping) CAITLYN: All right, guys, we made it! - We are in Houston! - (all cheering) - CAITLYN: Yay! - KATE: Yippee-ki-yi-yay! CAITLYN: Yay! (Laughter) CHANDI: I grew up in a very religious background, and I love to be in situations where we can talk about our faiths.
And the ways that the ministers here in Houston discouraged people to make them not vote for The HERO Act were totally not right.
JENNY: Houston is a great town for LGBTQ activism, and there's people who have been doing this work here, some very good activists, fighting this fight for a long, long time.
And I know there are probably a lot of people in Houston who have who have met with these ministers, so we're not gonna be the first trans people that they've ever seen.
But it's still important.
(bell clanging) (knocking) CAITLYN: Who could it be? Mara.
MARA: How are you? CAITLYN: I am doing great, sister.
- How you doing? - MARA: I am doing wonderfully.
JENNY: Mara Keisling is probably the most important person we have working for us in Washington.
MARA: I think your coming out has been a huge net positive.
And I think you've screwed some things up.
But it's also it's huge.
CAITLYN: I I want you to know, I'm on your team.
I'll give you my number.
Call me anytime, - if there's anything I can do, um - MARA: I appreciate it.
CAITLYN: I know that we got a long ways to go.
Lot of fighting, lot of unifying.
It's not gonna be easy, but we'll get through it.
You know, we have so many political issues for this community.
We were talking bathrooms.
What about your experience? MARA: You know, a couple years ago, we created these little signs "There was just a trans woman in this bathroom, - and nothing bad happened.
" - CAITLYN: I love that! I love that! (Laughter) A little disobedience, girls? I'd say we go visit some bathrooms.
- What do you say? - KATE: I say you're becoming a leftist activist.
- CAITLYN: Yay! - ELLA: Yay! CAITLYN: Aren't you proud of me? KATE: It sounds like to me that we are entering bathrooms with the intention of creating a disturbance.
So, you know, seriously, uh, that could mean arrest.
- CANDIS: I'm down.
Let's do it.
- CAITLYN: All right.
JENNY: All right, let's do it.
CAITLYN: One for all, all for one, baby.
We're all together.
CHANDI: "Houston, we have a problem.
" I love it.
CAITLYN: Let's do it! Candis, where's the place? Nearby? CANDIS: Nearby.
There's a public park.
KIP: Is everybody ready, or do we need a little prep? (cheering, laughter) CAITLYN: All right, all right, all right.
Very good, Kip! - CANDIS: I'm so thirsty.
- CAITLYN: We're gonna be doing a lot of peeing today.
(laughter) - CAITLYN: All right, let's do this, guys.
- CANDIS: (bleep) me.
CAITLYN: (bleep) Hey, I like that attitude, girls! (laughter) - CHANDI: All right.
- ELLA: What should I say? KATE: Uh, "a trans woman was here and nothing bad happened.
" - CAITLYN: I love that.
- ELLA: Our first one done.
CHANDI: Many to go.
- Houston, we really do have a problem.
- Going to the bathroom is something that everyone does.
KIP: Are we hydrated? CHANDI: I'm a little parched.
(Smacks lips) - ELLA: A little parched.
- CHANDI: I just want America to know that trans people are just looking to do the same thing in the bathroom.
No one is taking any time to meet or greet, just potty.
So, just do you in the bathroom, and let us do us, and then everybody just smile and walk out.
(Chuckles) (toilet flushes) JENNY: All right, so this church has two campuses.
There's a a prayer service at one of them tonight.
Let's try to get a little information, - CHANDI: Sure.
- JENNY: and give give the gentleman a call.
KATE: We came to Houston to do something about this city's response to the hatred, especially of five pastors who turned an entire human rights ordinance into a lie about bathrooms.
Caitlyn's idea was, "I'll go see them - and talk with them face-to-face.
" - (line ringing) WOMAN: Thank you for calling (bleep) church, how may I help you? JENNY: Hi there.
My name's Jenny Boylan, I wanted to know if I could speak with Reverend (bleep), please? WOMAN: You know, he actually just stepped out, but I can take a message and relay it to him.
JENNY: Oh, gee, I'm so sorry he's not available.
I'm in Houston from out of town.
I was hoping to go to, um, a prayer service? WOMAN: We do have one at the Houston campus that's at 7:00 p.
m.
JENNY: I'm, uh, a transgender woman who's looking for a place to worship.
Would I be welcome at the ser at the, uh, service this evening? Oh, wait, hang on, um, uh, my, uh, my friend Caitlyn Jenner is here; she'd like to have a word with you, hang on.
CAITLYN: How you doing? Caitlyn Jenner here.
- (line clicks) - (quiet gasping) CANDIS: She got the click.
JENNY: I thought that you, like, everybody just loved you.
CAITLYN: That's actually all the more reason we need to go tonight.
There it is.
That's the church.
My God, look at the size of that place! JENNY: I'm petrified.
We're gonna be walking among people who don't like us.
And we may be provoking trouble.
CAITLYN: All the more reason we need to go tonight, and I I would just love to meet him.
I would love his views.
I'm a Christian.
And anybody of faith or a pastor or this and that are supposed to be compassionate, understanding people and, you know, you find, - I mean, there's a lot of hate.
- CHANDI: Lot of hate.
ELLA: Scariest part of it is, they don't see it as hate.
CHANDI: And they feel like it's okay for th them to interpret those scriptures - in the ways that work best for them.
Right.
- CAITLYN: They want, yeah.
CHANDI: And not actually the way it's meant.
And it's so many ways for us to interpret it, and why they choose to use it to attack us is unbeknownst to me.
CAITLYN: To be honest with you, I think it was good to get hung up on.
My experience has been so positive.
But I realize that I really haven't seen the hatred out there.
You can really see, on a much larger scale, what the rest of this community is going through.
They're getting hung up on all the time.
Trying to get a job, trying to go to a church those are the real big issues.
CAITLYN: Girls.
See the big dome over here on the left? - You can see it sticking up? - CANDIS: Yeah.
CAITLYN: There it is; that's the church.
My God, look at the size of that place.
- CHANDI: In a way - CAITLYN: This is what I think we do, guys.
We just basically go in, be quiet, get our little thing, sit down in the back.
I don't think we have to walk to the front row.
JENNY: I'm petrified.
CAITLYN: Why are you nervous? JENNY: Well, we're gonna be walking among people who don't like us.
As a Christian, I believe that you have to love your enemies.
We have to meet with the group of ministers against The Hero Act who would do us harm.
We have to look them in the eyes and let them understand we are good people.
We are filled with love.
And we are no less deserving than anyone else of the fruits of (sighs) living in this country.
We may be provoking trouble.
CHANDI: Well, that would be every day, Jenny.
CAITLYN: Well, I think after we got hung up on today, I think they probably know we're in town.
All right, we're here.
Yeah, just right there is fine.
Here we go.
Let's go in hoping for the best.
- CANDIS: You're right.
- JENNY: Let's go with love in our hearts, yeah.
CANDIS: There is gonna be a buzz tonight among the congregation.
JENNY: I thought that was interesting that in spite of the church's very anti-trans message CAITLYN: I know, I know, but the people are - JENNY: Many, many people - CAITLYN: But see JENNY: wanted pictures of you, particularly people under the age of 13.
KATE: We went to two church services, and the most lively, loving, cheering, happy response was when the parishioners saw that Caitlyn Jenner was in the house.
And it was all worth it for the four-minute conversation that Caitlyn had with the Reverend (bleep).
Caitlyn said to him, "I need you to know that your comments on that video are highly offensive to me and to all trans people.
" And no one has said that to his face before then.
CHANDI: But will they accept us? - Who knows? That's yet to be determined.
- CANDIS: But but by us CANDIS: But by us going to the church tonight, all of those people are gonna have seen us there - CAITLYN: Yeah.
- CANDIS: and thought, "Hey, they're not that bad.
" - CHANDI: They're not that bad.
- CANDIS: So maybe we change one congregation at a time, instead of one soul at a time.
CHANDI: Well, a congregation is too many! KATE: Our presence in Houston got some of the haters to meet trans women and show them that we can treat them with respect.
I don't know if that'll be returned, but it planted a seed, and I'm proud of that.
That's with Caitlyn.
That's what she does.
She goes right up into the face of whatever's the most scary or threatening.
She doesn't run away.
It's not her.
That says something.
That's gonna get through.
Maybe not right away, maybe not even in this generation.
But those kids are gonna grow up remembering, "I don't hate trans people.
" CANDIS: Can I get a margarita on the rocks with salt? CHANDI: I want one blended.
CAITLYN: Oh, my God.
I'm feeling better already! KATE: When I first met you, you would always distance yourself from your earlier life as a guy.
I've seen wonderful integration where you found out how to express yourself more clearly as a woman and listen as a woman would listen.
And for that, you've earned my respect and complete support.
CAITLYN: I appreciate that.
JENNY: You've learned about the diversity of our community.
You seem to be beginning to understand that there's a lot of ways of being trans, and that your way is is one of them.
CANDIS: You know, you're living proof that it's never too late to make a change in the world.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
- CANDIS: And you're really just a sweet person on on top of it! - CAITLYN: Should I lay one on you again? - (Candis laughs) - Love you.
- CANDIS: I love you.
CHANDI: I appreciate you stepping out for a community that still is dealing with a lot within themselves.
It's so sad that we can't pat each other on the back and say "good job" sometimes.
If nobody's told you you're doing a good job, take it from me, you're doing a good job.
Regardless of whether you slip up through a conversation or whether you, um, say the wrong thing at the wrong time.
We're not perfect, none of us.
We have our issues, but you being your authentic self, not to be the savior for our community, but to be happy for yourself, that's what's important.
ELLA: Um - CANDIS: Oh, you're gonna make me cry.
- (Ella chuckles, sniffles) ELLA: You know, as much as I can go to school, and as much as even when you do get to that point where you can have people accept you and you're living the life, you always still feel different, you know? Meeting all of you made me feel a new normal.
I I thank you.
- CAITLYN: I'm really gonna miss you guys.
- CANDIS: Oh CAITLYN: We, uh We spent a lot of time together.
- All aboard, ready? - SINGER: Times that I've seen you lose your way You're not in control and you won't be told CAITLYN: We've poured our hearts out.
KATE: We had a mother/son relationship, and I threw it in her face.
CAITLYN: To be honest with you, I can't see myself dating, like, women in the future.
SINGER: All I can do to keep you safe Is hold you close Hold you close CAITLYN: We spoke with passion, hopefully some respect.
If if Hillary becomes president, the country is over.
ZACKARY: Where is this anger coming from? JENNY: We're telling you, we were scared.
CAITLYN: Have I made mistakes? Yeah.
Um, but that's okay.
You learn from me, then move on.
I want to apologize.
I did not mean to upset you.
That's what makes our country great.
That we can have differences of opinion.
I so appreciate your love and your support.
It's been overwhelming.
You know, we did good.
SINGER: Hold tight, you're slowly coming back to life I'll be keeping your head up I'll be keeping your head up, darling (Caitlyn mumbling) - (laughter) - I'll be keeping your head up - CHANDI: All right - SINGER: I'll be keeping your head up - (all gasping) - CHANDI: Oh ZACKARY: Wow, that was pretty monumental.
CAITLYN: I always know uh, that I have my my little group of girls.
They got my back.
(Sniffles) And, uh I love you all.
CANDIS: We love you, too.
- KATE: Love you so much.
- CANDIS: We love you, too.
SINGER: And I won't let you down.
She is always willing to go have some fun.
- COURTNEY: If you two kiss on the lips - KIP: So if you guys kiss, - she'll sing.
- COURTNEY: she'll sing.
(Ella laughs) ELLA: Just looking at my dad, I just feel my heart jumping.
You know, I was almost getting emancipated.
- PETER: It would be your loss.
You did - ELLA: It almost was yours.
CANDIS: "Presidential hopeful Ted Cruz opposes equality for transgender people.
" KATE: You're in a position to actually change things.
CAITLYN: Maybe the best thing to do is go to Houston, - take a look at it.
- KATE: Uh, that could mean arrest.
CAITLYN: There it is.
That's the church.
JENNY: I'm petrified.
(crickets chirping) KRIS: Hi.
Wow! - CAITLYN: Nice purse, baby! - KRIS: You clean up nice! - CAITLYN: Well, thank you, baby.
- JENNY: A delight to see you again.
KRIS: Hey.
Oh, my God, if you dance with me again, - I'd be so excited.
- JENNY: Yeah, oh, my, we had fun.
- CAITLYN: Cheers, baby.
- KRIS: Cheers.
JENNY: We wish you a Merry Christmas.
CAITLYN: Cheers! Cheers! ELLA: Is this Kris's first girls' night? CAITLYN: We have a tradition at girls' night.
To get in, you have to be voted on by the board.
KRIS: I'm screwed.
- (laughter) - CAITLYN: Yeah, I know.
So, a raise of hands, should we vote her in? - KRIS: Please vote for me! - CAITLYN: Just raise your hand.
JENNY: Absolutely! CAITLYN: You actually get an official girls' night bracelet.
- KRIS: Aw! Thanks, guys.
- CAITLYN: You're voted in.
- I know, I know.
- KRIS: Thank you.
I feel very honored.
So cool.
CAITLYN: Anyway, next on Caitlyn's world adventures - is a ski trip to Mammoth.
- (quiet gasp) CANDIS: I've never skied.
- I've always wanted to learn how to ski.
- CAITLYN: Perfect.
ELLA: I grew up skiing, so I have some I have some background.
- I might need to get used to it again.
- CAITLYN: Okay, good! KATE: I will make you cocoa.
(laughter) - ELLA: Hi.
How are you? - CAITLYN: Hi, Peter.
- ELLA: My dad, Peter.
- PETER: Thank you so much.
- CANDIS: Peter, hi.
How are you? - CAITLYN: Hello, babe! - PETER: A pleasure.
- ELLA: I ended up meeting Cait through Ronda, Cait's best friend, slash assistant.
RONDA: So, guys, I don't think you've all met her, but this is Ella.
She's a dear friend of mine for many years.
ELLA: I grew up with Ronda.
My dad and her were "friends.
" (laughter) PETER: I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart.
You just opened up so many doors, not only for my daughter, but for many others.
- CAITLYN: I appreciate that.
- PETER: I really appreciate it.
When she became who she is, she became more confident, more happy in her skin.
- CAITLYN: Yeah, that's good.
- CANDIS: It's important for people to see trans kids that have amazing, supportive fathers, so, I mean, that's really great - PETER: Thank you so much.
- CANDIS: that you've been that way.
PETER: People ask me, "How did you do it?" I go, "Well, it's your kid.
You shut the door and let it be dark, - or you open it and let the light shine in.
" - CANDIS: Yeah.
PETER: It's as simple as that.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
- PETER: I mean, what're you gonna do, abandon? You love that child regardless.
- CANDIS: And now she's - PETER: I'm blessed.
(sighs heavily) ELLA: My relationship with my dad.
I've just kind of closed off myself from him.
Transitioning it was a long process and, um, my dad wasn't very accepting at that time.
PETER: It was really crazy when she went through her trans (stammering) - ELLA: Transition.
- PETER: Transition.
- I have clients for 28 years - CANDIS: Yeah.
PETER: that go, "How's your son?" - Yeah.
- (Candis laughs) PETER: And, um, you know, I'm telling you, um, from my feedback, it's it's they're accepting of her being my daughter.
- CANDIS: Yeah.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
PETER: But, uh, and I'm and I'm an advocate, you know.
I'm I'm right I've got all your backs.
ELLA: I do have an accepting father now, and I'm grateful for that, but, um, it was kind of hard to watch him, um, play that role when he never He didn't He played another role for a very long time.
CAITLYN: It's a rainbow, baby.
PETER: And we're all in it.
(birds chirping) - CAITLYN: Let's go, guys! - CANDIS: Yes! - CAITLYN: Let's move it! - CANDIS: Wow.
I feel like I'm in a hobbit house.
(Caitlyn chuckles) CAITLYN: And the road trip continues! I'm taking 'em skiing.
It's too bad Chandi and, also, Zackary can't make it.
Jenny Boylan and Kate Bornstein are gonna meet us up in Mammoth, so trip's gonna be a lot of fun.
Plus, I get to ski.
Not bad.
- It was great meeting your dad.
- CANDIS: It was great.
CAITLYN: He was the perfect father.
ELLA: Um, to be honest, um, I kind of felt like he glorified himself in some ways, because he never really seemed to be there for my transition.
We kind of kind of sugarcoated over the fact that it was like war.
I almost got emancipated from him, and then, all of a sudden, when it was right for him, he decided to take the title of the the hero dad.
CAITLYN: Wow.
Have you talked to your dad about your feelings? ELLA: I think I'm, um, scared of facing him.
It definitely is kind of a sensitive territory.
I think I've just cut those emotions off.
- CANDIS: He needs to know how you feel.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
CANDIS: 'Cause that's the only way you can repair - your side of things.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
- CANDIS: And move on.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
CANDIS: Okay, I've always wanted to do this.
I'm just letting you guys know.
CAITLYN: I love Candis.
One, she's a good friend.
Two, she is always willing to go have some fun.
Go, Candis! Let's rock and roll.
SINGER: Hey, I'm strung out ELLA: Woo-hoo! (Courtney chuckles) COURTNEY: Go! SINGER: Hey, I'm strung out CANDIS: Twisting, twisting.
(groans, laughs) SINGER: Is it time to find the way for me? (whoops) - (groans, giggles) - CAITLYN: Come on, Candis! - Turn it in! - (Candis chuckles) COURTNEY: Where's, um, Jenny and Kate? CAITLYN: Uh, unfortunately, their flight cancelled in L.
A.
ELLA: Are they driving up? CAITLYN: I don't know.
They should.
- KIP: Those two together.
- COURTNEY: At night, at night.
- CANDIS: Oh, my God.
- COURTNEY: I mean, - that's insane.
- KIP: For five hours.
- CANDIS: Kate and Jenny together for five hours.
- KIP: In the car by themselves.
(laughter) COURTNEY: This salmon is so good.
Wow.
ELLA: I want to talk to you about this.
I I do a lot of, like, writing music, um, on my free time and stuff CANDIS: Well, what about singing? Can you sing? ELLA: I don't have the highest voice in the world.
COURTNEY: Can you sing us a little tune? - ELLA: I'm not No, I'm very insecure.
- COURTNEY: Just a little something.
KIP: How about we do a barter system? - ELLA: Okay.
- KIP: What would Cait and Candis have to do in order to make you sing? - ELLA: Oh, that's easy.
- COURTNEY: What? - ELLA: Kiss.
- (Candis chuckles) - KIP: I know.
So, if you guys kiss - COURTNEY: If you two kiss - on the lips, she'll sing.
- KIP: she'll sing.
WOMAN: Which one's Candis? - ALL: Oh! - CHANDI: Candis and Caitlyn in the tree, - K-I-S-S-I-N-G! - ZACKARY: Yes, I love it! - (Caitlyn laughs) - CANDIS: Tada! KIP: No one has ever challenged Caitlyn Jenner to anything that she hasn't stepped up to the plate.
COURTNEY: You might as well use your lips.
Both of you have gorgeous lips.
- Just, like, smack 'em together.
- ELLA: It's like a friendship cuddle, - a lip snuggle.
- (Candis laughs) - COURTNEY: I mean, just go in - CANDIS: Yeah.
- Court! - ELLA: Think of it as like a dare, - fun friendly dare.
- COURTNEY: Yeah! - ELLA: I will kiss anyone.
- COURTNEY: We double dog dare you.
(Candis laughs) - CAITLYN: What? - COURTNEY: Ooh.
Oh.
Oh.
(Candis laughs) (laughter) ELLA: There was tongue, and it was like, - one Mississippi, two.
- KIP: And I had I was on the edge of my seat.
- JENNY: Well, well, well.
- ELLA: I was so NEWSMAN: The HERO Measure in Houston has been repealed.
Five conservative Christian pastors in Houston - have been leading the charge - JENNY: Republicans.
Your people.
They don't like us.
KATE: It sounds like to me that we are entering bathrooms with the intention of creating a disturbance.
- - Seriously, that could mean arrest.
KIP: No one has ever challenged Caitlyn Jenner to anything that she hasn't stepped up to the plate.
- CAITLYN: What? - COURTNEY: Ooh.
Oh.
Oh.
(Candis laughs) - (gasping, laughter) - KIP: Yes! - Yes! - (clapping, pounding) COURTNEY: Oh, my God! ELLA: (bleep) I have to sing! CANDIS: Look it, they're all, like, huddling.
(laughter) COURTNEY: That was not the kind of kiss I was expecting! - KIP: Once more! - COURTNEY: Oh, my God! CAITLYN: I can't believe everybody talked me into giving her a kiss.
But it's good, because that's the most action I've got in the last two and a half years.
(Chuckles) COURTNEY: It's confirming everything.
CANDIS: Oh, my God, it is.
That was crazy.
(Chuckles) I mean, it was all a joke.
Truth or Dare, you know.
That kind of thing.
We're just friends.
- CAITLYN: But it was good.
- CANDIS: Yeah, you you're a good kisser.
- CAITLYN: What room ya in? - (laughter) (wind whistling) - ELLA: There they are! - KATE: Welcome! - Wind chill all of a sudden.
- JENNY: Hi, sweetie.
- ELLA: My love! - JENNY: How are ya? ELLA: We have a lot to talk about.
KIP: You missed an entertaining dinner.
I said, "What would Candis and Cait have to do to make you sing?" And Ella said, "Kiss.
" - She just went in for it.
- JENNY: So Really? KIP: There was a little tongue wrestling.
- JENNY: Well, well, well - ELLA: No, no, no.
It was not just There was tongue, and it was, like JENNY: Many many good relationships have begun with a dare.
(laughter) I think mine did.
(laughter) - ELLA: Hi! - CANDIS: You guys made it, and that's what's important.
JENNY: I understand you made it, too.
- (Candis scoffs) - COURTNEY: The news traveled already? JENNY: Well, it got down to the down to the gondola.
So, did you have a friendly, platonic kiss? - CAITLYN: I thought it was pretty damn good.
- CANDIS (laughing): Yeah.
- COURTNEY: Was there was there tongue involved? - CAITLYN: I don't know about you, but I thought it was was really good.
JENNY: Yay! - CAITLYN: No, it was fun.
- CANDIS: Oh, it was fun.
CAITLYN: I think it's clearing up.
- (laughter) - KIP: Is that the sun? CANDIS: It says here, in PinkNews, "Presidential hopeful Ted Cruz worried transgendered kids might molest his daughters - in the shower.
" - KATE: Holy (bleep).
CANDIS: "The Republican senator opposes basic equality - for transgender people.
" - ELLA: Oh.
JENNY: There is a movement among some conservatives against LGBT people, and of late, trans people in particular.
I'm thinking of the Houston thing, for instance.
In Houston, an act called "The HERO Act," which guaranteed equality not just for LGBT people, but for all people, was in fact, repealed.
There was a campaign for the repeal of "The HERO Act" that was run by a group of ministers and it was run, um, largely by conservative Republicans.
The tactic that was used against our community was the threat that there would be sick men preying upon our children in restrooms.
WOMAN: Any man at anytime could enter a woman's bathroom simply by claiming to be a woman that day.
No one is exempt.
Even registered sex offenders.
Protect women's privacy, prevent danger, vote no on the Proposition 1 bathroom ordinance.
It goes too far.
(door slams) JENNY: It was shocking.
It was a lie, and it happened to work.
Is it your sense that you could talk to any of the Republican candidates and about this issue and win them over? CAITLYN: Well, I don't really want to get involved politically on on that level.
Like, I'm gonna go out and do political stuff, no.
KATE: You're in a position to actually change things.
You're in a position to say, "Yo, I am a conservative and I'm a Republican, - I believe in small government, and " - CAITLYN: Mm-hmm.
KATE: " lay off the queers.
" JENNY: She's a leader now, whether she likes it or not.
And she needs to stand in solidarity with the trans community on LGBT equality.
She needs to understand how it how urgent this this work is.
CANDIS: Are you gonna talk to your dad? It will only strengthen your relationship.
CHANDI: Houston, we really do have a problem.
Going to the bathroom is something that everyone does.
CAITLYN: A little disobedience I say we go visit some bathrooms.
What do you say? - ELLA: Hello? - CANDIS: Hello? - ELLA: Slumber party! - JENNY: Hi, darling.
- ELLA: Hi.
- CAITLYN: Wine, anybody? JENNY: Oh, maybe just a glass.
- ELLA: So, um, Caitlyn - (cork pops) ELLA: I was looking on Facebook, and I, knowing you, I understand where you're coming from - CAITLYN: What did I say now?! - ELLA: You made a comment, - um, I think it was - CAITLYN: What was my comment? - ELLA: Presi - JENNY: It's a thing we've actually heard you say before, and it's within the much larger context of the Time magazine article.
CANDIS: That if you look like a man in a dress, - it makes other people uncomfortable.
- CAITLYN: Is that bad? Does the trans community look at that and go, "Oh, my God"? JENNY: Here's the thing.
There is a movement among some conservatives to demonize transgender people.
The tactic used against our community was the threat that there would be sick men in dresses preying upon our children.
CANDIS: And so, when you refer to us as "men in dresses," you're validating all of these pastors and politicians that are using scare tactics against us.
We've been fighting that image for decades.
CAITLYN: Wow.
Oh, my God.
CANDIS: Cait is a representative of our community, and so she does have to think before she speaks, because the world grabs onto everything she says.
And with the phrase "men in dresses," Cait really screwed up.
We have to change the way people look at people who are transitioning or transitioned.
We have to show that it's okay to be, you know, non-conforming.
JENNY: People need to know you're fighting for everybody, not just the pretty ones.
CAITLYN: You're absolutely right.
And I agree with that.
I totally agree with everything you're saying.
- JENNY: Exactly.
- CANDIS: Yeah.
CAITLYN: So, how then, do I word it? Let me think.
What about, uh, we have a lot of people that are gender non-conforming, that are just very comfortable with themselves, uh, in the way that they look, and it may not be the norm, uh, within society, but they're comfortable with the way they look.
- JENNY: "And I'm fighting for them, too.
" - CAITLYN: And I'm fighting for them, too.
- (excited stammering) - CANDIS: So you did it! JENNY: Yeah! That's how you do it! - CANDIS: That's how you do it! - CAITLYN: Okay! Wow.
- CANDIS: Cheers to that.
- CAITLYN: I want to yeah, - here's to that, okay.
- JENNY: I thought we were just gonna hang out.
CAITLYN: The last thing I want to do is create more, you know, stereotypes of our community.
The girls have taught me that that term, "a man in a dress," is the way the kind of "anti-trans" people out there refer to us.
I never really thought of it that way, but the girls kind of opened my mind up to that.
So, um, yeah, I don't think I'll use that phrase again.
- JENNY: One of the things that we can do is - CAITLYN: What can we do? JENNY: we can send out the message that no matter how you look, it's okay.
You have every much as right to your life and authenticity as anybody.
And the way you send out that message? Well, if only you had a TV show or something - (Candis chuckles) - JENNY: where where - you could - CAITLYN: Maybe we should look into that.
(Candis laughs) (Caitlyn whoops) (exclaims, laughs) CANDIS: How did it go for you? CAITLYN: Good! Knee's sore.
I'm kind of done.
CANDIS: How did you do, El? ELLA: It was pretty steep in some parts, the very beginning, but, um, we ended up getting to a side of the mountain where it was, like perfect.
CANDIS: So, are you gonna are you gonna talk to your dad when you get home? - ELLA: I don't know, I mean - CANDIS: About how you're feeling.
ELLA: It's to the point where it's like our relationship now is, like, intermediately decent.
Do I interfere with that? Even though, like, obviously, I I will admit I do have, like, a little issues with it.
- CANDIS: Right.
- ELLA: When it's brought up, you know? CANDIS: I mean, you could talk to him about it in a positive way, say, "Oh, this is how I used to feel.
" I think that it will only strengthen your relationship - if you, like, just tell him how you felt.
- ELLA: Yeah.
CANDIS: But it could be ELLA: Do I want to strengthen it, though? The wounds that are there have led me to not really want to pursue, you know something better.
Kind of just like, "I'm okay with it, let's just keep it like this.
" CANDIS: Maybe it's a good thing to just tell him how you used to feel; as much for you, I think, you'll get out of it, he will also.
ELLA: Yeah.
CAITLYN: We're stuck, baby.
Morning.
- KATE: Good morning, lovely.
- CAITLYN: Good morning.
Morning.
- CANDIS: Ella - JENNY: Breakfast! CAITLYN: Do we have a plan for the day? - JENNY: Yes.
Excuse me, Kate.
- KATE: Shopping! JENNY: I'm gonna go shopping with with Kate B.
- CAITLYN: You two have bonded.
- KATE: We have.
- JENNY: Well, well, yeah.
- KATE: We have.
At the hip.
CAITLYN: Yeah, when we started this, you didn't know if you even wanted to come because of um, Miss Boylan.
- JENNY: Mm, yeah.
- KATE: Doing it.
CAITLYN: That's what makes our country great.
That we can have differences of opinion and hopefully take the best opinions, put 'em together and come up with something that's constructive for as many people as we possibly can.
JENNY: I was thinking about Houston and The Hero Act.
I went online before I went to sleep and found a number of links.
My concern is that there really appears to me to be a shocking amount of, um, hatred of LGB and especially T people, that drove the Houston repeal.
It was largely driven by conservatives, it was driven by people who stood on CAITLYN: No, it was driven by people, we don't know what their political stuff was or if it was even true, but it was delivered, it was, yeah.
JENNY: Cait has a disconnect.
She does not accept that there is any element in either the Republican Party or the conservative movement that has ever been against LGBT people.
And that stops today.
MAN (over computer): The Hero Measure in Houston has beenrepealed.
Five conservative Christian pastors in Houston, known as The Houston Five, have been leading the charge to repeal the Houston Equal Rights ordinance meant to prohibit discrimination of public accommodations.
Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz was quoted as saying that, "We should all be proud to stand up and defend the pastors.
" CAITLYN: Well.
I think he's just totally misinformed, yeah.
JENNY: Ted Cruz said that.
Republicans your people they don't like us.
CAITLYN: They're not my people if they're against this issue.
So, big deal.
I'm I'm not, like, oh, cheering them on.
KATE: You are; you're voting for Ted Cruz! You're cheering him on! CAITLYN: Um, because I think he can take care of the big issues.
KATE: It's not either/or.
You can't say you're not cheering people on and then say Ted Cruz, who uses "trans" as a slur any chance he gets Nah.
ELLA: Just looking at my dad, and just knowing that I was gonna confront him about everything, I could just feel my heart jumping out of my chest.
PETER: What's up? CAITLYN: There it is that's the church.
- JENNY: We may be provoking trouble.
- CAITLYN: Here we go.
KATE: Caitlyn said to the reverend, "Your comments are highly offensive to all trans people.
" And no one has said that to his face before that.
KATE: Ted Cruz said that one of the first things he's gonna do when he gets in office is strike down Obama's memo saying, "You got to treat trans people like human beings.
" - There's Republican ideology.
- CAITLYN: Right.
KATE: It has nothing to do with homophobia and transphobia, and yet, they are stirring it up and using it to get votes.
CAITLYN: I know.
I agree with that.
I'm looking for the same thing.
The entire bathroom issue, this is something that all us girls have to be, you know, unified on.
To understand this issue better, maybe the best thing to do is go to Houston.
I would love to sit down with these pastors - who have made a big thing.
Say, - JENNY: Oh, so CAITLYN: "What's your issue here?" One of the things I realized is the more conservative side has been, uh, less open to our community.
I want the girls to know that, certainly, when it comes to trans issues, I'm gonna be on the same fight as them.
So, I think it's time to go to Houston.
CANDIS: Don't walk into a bathroom.
(chuckles) CAITLYN: Uh, well, we can walk into a bathroom.
Yeah, I'm certainly not going in the men's room.
CANDIS: I know that Cait is a Republican.
She's not gonna switch parties.
So, you know, hearing her acknowledge that it is mostly the Republican Party which is giving roadblock after roadblock to every important issue that matters to us.
That was a huge step.
KATE: I want to congratulate all of us here, how far we've come from that explosive day on the bus.
- CANDIS: Oh, God.
- KATE: We're now able to talk about this (bleep).
- JENNY: Everyone put your hand in.
- CAITLYN: And all of us together come on, Kate, put it in there.
- (laughter) - There, put it in there! - ALL: One, two, three! - (All cheer) (Ella sighs) ELLA: Do you want something to eat? PETER: Yes, I'm hungry.
ELLA: Okay.
I am so nervous.
Just looking at my dad, and just knowing that I am gonna confront him about everything I can just feel my heart jumping out of my chest.
PETER: What's up? ELLA: Um, I actually, um did want to talk to you about some stuff.
Um Don't take it the, like, I I don't want to, like, I I'm not trying to attack you.
During lunch with Cait and Candis, um, it was hard listening to you as the accepting father.
I didn't even realize that there was still kind of, like, some inner frustration and anger.
I don't want to say I'm angry with you, but in a way, I kind of PETER: I know it was difficult in the beginning.
I understand.
It was, it was very hard for me to accept it.
- ELLA: Yeah, but - PETER: Understand it.
- ELLA: It was terrible.
- PETER: It was hard.
I mean, I was a wreck.
ELLA: Do you know I was almost you know I was almost getting emancipated? PETER: What? Explain that.
- ELLA: It's the truth.
- PETER: Explain that.
That you were gonna take away my fatherhood from you is that what that means? Tell me.
- ELLA: I was.
- PETER: You did, really? ELLA: I almost did.
PETER: Are you kidding? ELLA: I didn't tell you, but that's how hard it was at the - PETER: Is this Now - ELLA: And I think it's funny that we can laugh about this, in a sense, because it's, like, where you are now, from where you were, - but that's just the degree.
- PETER: You know, I I got to be, I I got to be straight up.
It would be your loss.
I tell you, I'm gonna be, tell you the truth, it would be your loss.
- 'Cause if anything I did - ELLA: It almost was yours, too.
PETER: But I would've fought for you.
ELLA: You weren't fighting.
KATE: It sounds like, to me, that we are entering bathrooms with the intention of creating a disturbance.
So, you know, seriously, uh, that could mean arrest.
JENNY: I'm petrified.
I'm, uh, a transgender woman who's in town looking for a place to worship.
CAITLYN: Caitlyn Jenner here.
- (line clicks) - (all gasping) (all murmuring in surprise) PETER: But I would've fought for you.
ELLA: You weren't fighting.
That's just the degree of hurt that I was feeling.
PETER: I get it, I remember.
I I by the way, - I don't like to think back.
- ELLA: I don't, either.
PETER: I don't like to think back to the way that - ELLA: Hi.
- PETER: I I had to deal with that.
Thank you so much.
ELLA: I think one of the problems also was that, if I mention it, it would just be more of You know how you said you don't like to talk about those days, you know.
- PETER: The past.
- ELLA: "I want to keep that there, it's the past.
" But I felt like you never acknowledged - the pain.
- PETER: Well, I acknowledge it now.
I'm sorry.
I love you, you know? Through this transition, I see my daughter blossom like a flower.
Guess what? Her father's blossoming like a flower through you.
ELLA: Oh, Dad! I love you! I do.
(Ella laughs) PETER: You're an amazing human being.
I'm I'm proud of you, babe, with all my heart.
I'll be better, always.
(Ella sobs softly) ELLA: Okay.
Thank you.
I guess I've always subconsciously labeled my dad's love as conditional, but, um, today, it was like I saw him for the first time.
(sniffles) Um, I think this is definitely a starting point for us to go from here and only get better.
PETER: Life is a blessing, and we're gonna continue to grow, and we're gonna continue to love, and we're gonna - be good humans, okay, babe? - ELLA: Yeah.
(laughs) I need some bacon now.
(laughs) (birds chirping) CAITLYN: All right, guys, we made it! - We are in Houston! - (all cheering) - CAITLYN: Yay! - KATE: Yippee-ki-yi-yay! CAITLYN: Yay! (Laughter) CHANDI: I grew up in a very religious background, and I love to be in situations where we can talk about our faiths.
And the ways that the ministers here in Houston discouraged people to make them not vote for The HERO Act were totally not right.
JENNY: Houston is a great town for LGBTQ activism, and there's people who have been doing this work here, some very good activists, fighting this fight for a long, long time.
And I know there are probably a lot of people in Houston who have who have met with these ministers, so we're not gonna be the first trans people that they've ever seen.
But it's still important.
(bell clanging) (knocking) CAITLYN: Who could it be? Mara.
MARA: How are you? CAITLYN: I am doing great, sister.
- How you doing? - MARA: I am doing wonderfully.
JENNY: Mara Keisling is probably the most important person we have working for us in Washington.
MARA: I think your coming out has been a huge net positive.
And I think you've screwed some things up.
But it's also it's huge.
CAITLYN: I I want you to know, I'm on your team.
I'll give you my number.
Call me anytime, - if there's anything I can do, um - MARA: I appreciate it.
CAITLYN: I know that we got a long ways to go.
Lot of fighting, lot of unifying.
It's not gonna be easy, but we'll get through it.
You know, we have so many political issues for this community.
We were talking bathrooms.
What about your experience? MARA: You know, a couple years ago, we created these little signs "There was just a trans woman in this bathroom, - and nothing bad happened.
" - CAITLYN: I love that! I love that! (Laughter) A little disobedience, girls? I'd say we go visit some bathrooms.
- What do you say? - KATE: I say you're becoming a leftist activist.
- CAITLYN: Yay! - ELLA: Yay! CAITLYN: Aren't you proud of me? KATE: It sounds like to me that we are entering bathrooms with the intention of creating a disturbance.
So, you know, seriously, uh, that could mean arrest.
- CANDIS: I'm down.
Let's do it.
- CAITLYN: All right.
JENNY: All right, let's do it.
CAITLYN: One for all, all for one, baby.
We're all together.
CHANDI: "Houston, we have a problem.
" I love it.
CAITLYN: Let's do it! Candis, where's the place? Nearby? CANDIS: Nearby.
There's a public park.
KIP: Is everybody ready, or do we need a little prep? (cheering, laughter) CAITLYN: All right, all right, all right.
Very good, Kip! - CANDIS: I'm so thirsty.
- CAITLYN: We're gonna be doing a lot of peeing today.
(laughter) - CAITLYN: All right, let's do this, guys.
- CANDIS: (bleep) me.
CAITLYN: (bleep) Hey, I like that attitude, girls! (laughter) - CHANDI: All right.
- ELLA: What should I say? KATE: Uh, "a trans woman was here and nothing bad happened.
" - CAITLYN: I love that.
- ELLA: Our first one done.
CHANDI: Many to go.
- Houston, we really do have a problem.
- Going to the bathroom is something that everyone does.
KIP: Are we hydrated? CHANDI: I'm a little parched.
(Smacks lips) - ELLA: A little parched.
- CHANDI: I just want America to know that trans people are just looking to do the same thing in the bathroom.
No one is taking any time to meet or greet, just potty.
So, just do you in the bathroom, and let us do us, and then everybody just smile and walk out.
(Chuckles) (toilet flushes) JENNY: All right, so this church has two campuses.
There's a a prayer service at one of them tonight.
Let's try to get a little information, - CHANDI: Sure.
- JENNY: and give give the gentleman a call.
KATE: We came to Houston to do something about this city's response to the hatred, especially of five pastors who turned an entire human rights ordinance into a lie about bathrooms.
Caitlyn's idea was, "I'll go see them - and talk with them face-to-face.
" - (line ringing) WOMAN: Thank you for calling (bleep) church, how may I help you? JENNY: Hi there.
My name's Jenny Boylan, I wanted to know if I could speak with Reverend (bleep), please? WOMAN: You know, he actually just stepped out, but I can take a message and relay it to him.
JENNY: Oh, gee, I'm so sorry he's not available.
I'm in Houston from out of town.
I was hoping to go to, um, a prayer service? WOMAN: We do have one at the Houston campus that's at 7:00 p.
m.
JENNY: I'm, uh, a transgender woman who's looking for a place to worship.
Would I be welcome at the ser at the, uh, service this evening? Oh, wait, hang on, um, uh, my, uh, my friend Caitlyn Jenner is here; she'd like to have a word with you, hang on.
CAITLYN: How you doing? Caitlyn Jenner here.
- (line clicks) - (quiet gasping) CANDIS: She got the click.
JENNY: I thought that you, like, everybody just loved you.
CAITLYN: That's actually all the more reason we need to go tonight.
There it is.
That's the church.
My God, look at the size of that place! JENNY: I'm petrified.
We're gonna be walking among people who don't like us.
And we may be provoking trouble.
CAITLYN: All the more reason we need to go tonight, and I I would just love to meet him.
I would love his views.
I'm a Christian.
And anybody of faith or a pastor or this and that are supposed to be compassionate, understanding people and, you know, you find, - I mean, there's a lot of hate.
- CHANDI: Lot of hate.
ELLA: Scariest part of it is, they don't see it as hate.
CHANDI: And they feel like it's okay for th them to interpret those scriptures - in the ways that work best for them.
Right.
- CAITLYN: They want, yeah.
CHANDI: And not actually the way it's meant.
And it's so many ways for us to interpret it, and why they choose to use it to attack us is unbeknownst to me.
CAITLYN: To be honest with you, I think it was good to get hung up on.
My experience has been so positive.
But I realize that I really haven't seen the hatred out there.
You can really see, on a much larger scale, what the rest of this community is going through.
They're getting hung up on all the time.
Trying to get a job, trying to go to a church those are the real big issues.
CAITLYN: Girls.
See the big dome over here on the left? - You can see it sticking up? - CANDIS: Yeah.
CAITLYN: There it is; that's the church.
My God, look at the size of that place.
- CHANDI: In a way - CAITLYN: This is what I think we do, guys.
We just basically go in, be quiet, get our little thing, sit down in the back.
I don't think we have to walk to the front row.
JENNY: I'm petrified.
CAITLYN: Why are you nervous? JENNY: Well, we're gonna be walking among people who don't like us.
As a Christian, I believe that you have to love your enemies.
We have to meet with the group of ministers against The Hero Act who would do us harm.
We have to look them in the eyes and let them understand we are good people.
We are filled with love.
And we are no less deserving than anyone else of the fruits of (sighs) living in this country.
We may be provoking trouble.
CHANDI: Well, that would be every day, Jenny.
CAITLYN: Well, I think after we got hung up on today, I think they probably know we're in town.
All right, we're here.
Yeah, just right there is fine.
Here we go.
Let's go in hoping for the best.
- CANDIS: You're right.
- JENNY: Let's go with love in our hearts, yeah.
CANDIS: There is gonna be a buzz tonight among the congregation.
JENNY: I thought that was interesting that in spite of the church's very anti-trans message CAITLYN: I know, I know, but the people are - JENNY: Many, many people - CAITLYN: But see JENNY: wanted pictures of you, particularly people under the age of 13.
KATE: We went to two church services, and the most lively, loving, cheering, happy response was when the parishioners saw that Caitlyn Jenner was in the house.
And it was all worth it for the four-minute conversation that Caitlyn had with the Reverend (bleep).
Caitlyn said to him, "I need you to know that your comments on that video are highly offensive to me and to all trans people.
" And no one has said that to his face before then.
CHANDI: But will they accept us? - Who knows? That's yet to be determined.
- CANDIS: But but by us CANDIS: But by us going to the church tonight, all of those people are gonna have seen us there - CAITLYN: Yeah.
- CANDIS: and thought, "Hey, they're not that bad.
" - CHANDI: They're not that bad.
- CANDIS: So maybe we change one congregation at a time, instead of one soul at a time.
CHANDI: Well, a congregation is too many! KATE: Our presence in Houston got some of the haters to meet trans women and show them that we can treat them with respect.
I don't know if that'll be returned, but it planted a seed, and I'm proud of that.
That's with Caitlyn.
That's what she does.
She goes right up into the face of whatever's the most scary or threatening.
She doesn't run away.
It's not her.
That says something.
That's gonna get through.
Maybe not right away, maybe not even in this generation.
But those kids are gonna grow up remembering, "I don't hate trans people.
" CANDIS: Can I get a margarita on the rocks with salt? CHANDI: I want one blended.
CAITLYN: Oh, my God.
I'm feeling better already! KATE: When I first met you, you would always distance yourself from your earlier life as a guy.
I've seen wonderful integration where you found out how to express yourself more clearly as a woman and listen as a woman would listen.
And for that, you've earned my respect and complete support.
CAITLYN: I appreciate that.
JENNY: You've learned about the diversity of our community.
You seem to be beginning to understand that there's a lot of ways of being trans, and that your way is is one of them.
CANDIS: You know, you're living proof that it's never too late to make a change in the world.
- CAITLYN: Yeah.
- CANDIS: And you're really just a sweet person on on top of it! - CAITLYN: Should I lay one on you again? - (Candis laughs) - Love you.
- CANDIS: I love you.
CHANDI: I appreciate you stepping out for a community that still is dealing with a lot within themselves.
It's so sad that we can't pat each other on the back and say "good job" sometimes.
If nobody's told you you're doing a good job, take it from me, you're doing a good job.
Regardless of whether you slip up through a conversation or whether you, um, say the wrong thing at the wrong time.
We're not perfect, none of us.
We have our issues, but you being your authentic self, not to be the savior for our community, but to be happy for yourself, that's what's important.
ELLA: Um - CANDIS: Oh, you're gonna make me cry.
- (Ella chuckles, sniffles) ELLA: You know, as much as I can go to school, and as much as even when you do get to that point where you can have people accept you and you're living the life, you always still feel different, you know? Meeting all of you made me feel a new normal.
I I thank you.
- CAITLYN: I'm really gonna miss you guys.
- CANDIS: Oh CAITLYN: We, uh We spent a lot of time together.
- All aboard, ready? - SINGER: Times that I've seen you lose your way You're not in control and you won't be told CAITLYN: We've poured our hearts out.
KATE: We had a mother/son relationship, and I threw it in her face.
CAITLYN: To be honest with you, I can't see myself dating, like, women in the future.
SINGER: All I can do to keep you safe Is hold you close Hold you close CAITLYN: We spoke with passion, hopefully some respect.
If if Hillary becomes president, the country is over.
ZACKARY: Where is this anger coming from? JENNY: We're telling you, we were scared.
CAITLYN: Have I made mistakes? Yeah.
Um, but that's okay.
You learn from me, then move on.
I want to apologize.
I did not mean to upset you.
That's what makes our country great.
That we can have differences of opinion.
I so appreciate your love and your support.
It's been overwhelming.
You know, we did good.
SINGER: Hold tight, you're slowly coming back to life I'll be keeping your head up I'll be keeping your head up, darling (Caitlyn mumbling) - (laughter) - I'll be keeping your head up - CHANDI: All right - SINGER: I'll be keeping your head up - (all gasping) - CHANDI: Oh ZACKARY: Wow, that was pretty monumental.
CAITLYN: I always know uh, that I have my my little group of girls.
They got my back.
(Sniffles) And, uh I love you all.
CANDIS: We love you, too.
- KATE: Love you so much.
- CANDIS: We love you, too.
SINGER: And I won't let you down.