The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch (2020) s03e03 Episode Script
Inner Fear-ence
I got a headache bro.
- Uh, his head is starting to hurt.
Here, jump in here real quick.
We may have to get you
off the ranch.
The fact that something
would be interfering
points to malevolent intent.
In our tradition,
if you see something,
you don't talk about it.
Hey, Look! UAP right there. Yup.
So we have a region
in altitude that tells us
there is some kind on phenomenon
taking place right here
over the triangle.
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
It is considered the epicenter
of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
animal mutilations,
bizarre UFO sightings
and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
For 20 years,
the federal government
tried to find answers
and failed.
Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
researchers and experts
has taken over.
They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal
The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
I don't know if it's
the things we're doing
that's stimulating these things
like launching rockets.
But there seems to be
something happening that is
jamming, hacking, spoofing us.
We've recently conducted
two new experiments at
the triangle and have gotten
more confirmation
that something strange
is happening about
a mile above that area.
Three, two, one, bottle drop.
First, we dropped GPS units
from Brandon's helicopter
down through it.
Holy cow. Look at that.
So we threw it out right there
and then, look, it goes upwind.
But something we couldn't see
seemed to deflect
our instruments
away from the spot.
The rocket is going hot.
Then, we launched rockets
up there with a team
of former military experts
who brought a specialized
tracking system
for studying UAP.
Hey look, UAP right there.
- Yep. I see it.
We did stimulate something
to appear in the sky,
but the tracking system
mysteriously shut down
over and over
You got to be kidding me.
preventing us
from getting any data.
Everything just went off-line.
We need to find a way
to collect data in that zone
for a sustained period of time
to figure out just what's
causing these strange events
that keep happening
on Skinwalker Ranch.
Well, you know,
these rockets are great
and we're seeing this data.
The problem with them is
they go up so fast
and come down so fast,
I don't feel like you guys are
really getting a lot of data.
A typical flight trajectory is,
even with a very
big chute on them,
is less than 20 or 30 seconds.
Yeah. - So,
it would be nice to linger there
like with a fixed-wing aircraft
that we could just keep fly--
orbiting over the spot,
or something.
You know, where we just make
a push broom-type of pattern
at various altitudes.
You could do that with, like,
a Cessna or something like that
and you could put
plenty of instruments in it.
They could go about a hundred
miles an hour, or slower,
and just push broom back
and forth over the ranch.
And then you could
go up in altitude
and do it again
and keep doing it.
We could get a complete 3D map
of GPS, gamma rays, radio,
whatever we wanted
to do like that.
Well, we've talked about this
for a while, I say we do it.
Right.
- I'll bet you
that Cameron knows somebody,
that's got a plane that would
do this, that would help us out.
Okay, should we go do it?
We need to reach out to Cameron
to see if he can help us out.
Sounds good.
Thanks, Erik.
Right up here is where
the petroglyph is.
Okay.
While we were preparing
for the experiment
above the triangle,
Tom Lewis
and Kandus Linde went to
nearby McConkie Ranch
to meet with a respected
Navajo Nation's member
named Jon Dover.
I think he said he was
going to meet us
just at the trailhead up here.
- Hello!
I'm up here.
- Jon.
Hello.
Come on up.
Let's head on up.
Now, we want
any information that can
help us with our investigation
and the Indigenous people
in this region
have a long history with
all kinds of strange phenomenon.
You're good?
- Oh, yeah.
Just recently,
we met with Corey Serawop
who shared a story with us
about his experience
in the Uinta Basin.
One thing he brought up was
that we should visit
McConkie Ranch and check out
the petroglyphs there.
This is amazing.
Wow, yeah.
Jon Dover has
a deep understanding
of the petroglyphs
and pictographs that are up
on the walls at McConkie Ranch.
And so, Kandus and I
are very interested
to hear what Jon has to say.
Ah, there you are. Hi.
- Hey, there.
Glad you made it.
- Thanks so much for having us.
Kandus.
- Jon.
Jon, nice to meet you.
And I'm Tom.
- Hi, Tom.
My name is Jonathan Dover.
I spent 27 years
as a, uh, archeological
resource investigator
with the Navajo Nation Rangers.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, this place is amazing.
This is one place
of a whole bunch of places
that have petroglyphs
that were put on these rocks
a thousand years ago
or even earlier than that.
Mm-hmm.
The ancient people
that populated
this place and some of the other
places around here show
that the natives back then
were seeing unusual
things happening
and were recording them, too.
There's a lot of information
that's put on these rocks
and they are put on
in successive "timescape."
Everybody that came through
would add something to it.
They're a record and
unusual things would be
documented on them.
They could depict clans,
they could depict Gods,
they could even
depict maps of the area.
Yeah, we have a few small panels
at the ranch and we're really
trying to tie anything together
that's in this region
to the ranch, to see if there's
connections or anything
that we could draw
lines to.
We'll definitely see
some connections here.
Excellent.
If we go further down here,
we're going to take
a look at one of them.
Great.
- Show us the way.
Wow.
Here is the most interesting
one that I've found so far,
is this spiral right here.
The spiral seems
to be universal.
All through
the United States,
through the Southwest,
in Europe, in Africa.
Some archeologists
tell me that this spiral
could refer to
some kind of a portal.
A portal?
- Yeah, a portal.
Okay.
And, uh, we think
that there's something
called infrasound.
Which is different
frequencies of sound
that you can't detect them
with human hearing.
And we believe that
it's very possible
that these different frequencies
can open portals
to other places.
For two years now,
all over Skinwalker Ranch
we've seen this strange signal
with an RF frequency
of 1.6 gigahertz.
We've got liftoff.
Oh, my God, during launch
the electromagnetic
spectrum is going
crazy, guys-- I've never
seen anything like it.
No technology that we know of
uses this specific
1.6 gigahertz frequency,
but we often see it
when people have
physiological
episodes on the ranch,
and also, when we've seen UAPs.
Now, the idea that UAP
and strange frequencies
are somehow connected to
a phenomenon like a portal,
is very interesting,
especially since many
of the Indigenous people
in this area truly believe
that connection exists.
You're saying this is a portal?
Or could be a portal?
This very much
could be a portal.
The significance of portals
or dimensional gates,
if you would
Mm-hmm.
is that
the Navajos themselves
talk about a people
coming to visit.
Different dimensions
are not like walls.
If you can imagine
they're interlaced together.
So,
what if every now and then
something just leaks through?
Mm-hmm.
- You could travel,
we just don't know how to do it.
- Yeah.
Even the Navajo creation story
talks about coming through
several different worlds
until they see a hole in the sky
and they climb up
into this world.
We think that there's something
going on with frequency
that is creating this effect.
Wow.
There's a lot more
we need to look at up here.
All right.
- So, we'll move along here.
As we were looking at
this spiral petroglyph
described as a portal,
Kandus and I realized
there is some sort
of connection here
with what's happening
on the ranch
and possibly at the triangle.
We've heard a lot of
very interesting stories
about seeing portals
that opened right
above people's heads
and figures coming out
of these portals.
It's amazing.
- Yeah.
Oh, yeah. I see it.
Oh, and that's like a human
It's another figure.
One thing I've just
thought about is, you know,
just on this rock wall
right here,
and it is speculation
and inference
Right.
- But
we could have
a skinwalker shape-shifter.
We could have
aliens. - Somebody coming
through another dimension.
Through other dimensions.
- Right.
The idea of Navajo skinwalkers,
gods coming from the sky,
even UFOs,
all had one thing in common
and that's this idea
of dimensions and portals,
and it's the one thing
that ties everything together.
With the spirals
back here that you were
talking about could be
indicative of-of a portal,
it could be that
it was right here
or maybe off in the distance?
What do you think?
It-it could be a whole
range of things.
We've actually
had stories involving
UAPs that have
entered into mesas
and just gone
right into the rock.
This idea of portals,
of dimensions,
it all ties together, and that's
what we're seeing with a lot
of these places and I think
that's what you're
experiencing
in the Uinta Basin there.
A lot of phenomenon
that's associated
with cross-dimensional
things going on.
Wow. We'd really love
to have you come to the ranch
and look at a few things.
Based on what
you've told us today
and your interpretation
of these panels,
I think there's a good
chance that the same
people that were here
could've very well been
on our ranch at one point.
I think we'd both benefit
from you coming to the ranch
and giving your insight to
what we've seen there.
- We have some
very interesting things
right on the Skinwalker Ranch.
It might be things you've
never seen before, so
I'd love to come over there.
- Great.
Lead the way.
I think we should
stop right here.
Because of what happened
last year with the sensors
on Brandon's helicopter
detecting an object
right below us,
and also, what happened
just two weeks ago
when we dropped GPS units
into the triangle anomaly
which appeared
to just bounce off
of an invisible object
in the sky above the ranch
Hey, Kendra, how are you?
- Hey.
we really
wanted to go further
with attempting
to map that anomaly.
So, to conduct
today's experiment
above the triangle area,
Cameron Fugal put us in touch
with a pilot named Kendra Hart
who's agreed to take
Erik up in her Cessna
to help us collect our data.
Since you fly out here, have
you flown over the property?
The ranch itself?
I have not.
Most of my students
stay further west and so,
this will be my first time
this far out east
and especially
over the ranch, so
Really?
- Yeah, it will be my first time.
First time? - First time. So
What we want to do is fly
from here over to the ranch.
When you get there,
we would like for you
to do a grid pattern,
at, uh, five
different altitudes.
Erik will show you
the points of interest,
but there's a triangle right
in the middle of the property
and directly above that,
between, say,
2,500 and 5,000 feet,
we've seen some weird things.
Okay.
- And, so we're hoping to get
some instrumentation
in that area
and see if we can figure out
what those weird things are.
Awesome.
- One thing that,
uh, not to scare you,
but occasionally,
when people are
on the ranch and even
above the ranch have
sort of a physiological
response to being there.
If you start feeling
anything at any point,
you know, you're the pilot,
if it's time to
abort the mission
'cause you got a weird feeling,
then you abort the mission.
All right?
- Mm-hmm.
Well, we've got some work
to do to get ready to go
and you may have
some flight prep
or something.
- Absolutely.
So, we'll be maybe in
and out of the cargo area
for the next couple minutes and
then we'll be ready to go. - Okay.
Let's get it done.
All right, Erik, let's grab everything.
I'll be going up in
the Cessna aircraft today
with some GPS trackers
and a data-logging
radiation meter,
our standard equipment set
including our spectrum analyzer,
Geiger counter
and other local equipment
to observe whether
there are any GPS anomalies
up near the 5,000-foot point
over the triangle.
All right.
I'm gonna close it up and
then go put it in the plane.
Sounds good.
Today, the plan is to fly
the Cessna in a sequential push
broom pattern over the ranch
sweeping back and forth
over the triangle
at various altitudes.
At the same time,
using the GPS sensors
to collect data
that we hope will give us
a three-dimensional model
of the anomaly
that we believe is up there
somewhere between
3,000 and 5,000 feet
above the ground.
What do you got there?
- This is your headset.
Got it.
- Okay, and then, this is the radio
that we are using
for the radio source.
For this experiment,
we're also making use of
a new avionic comm system,
making it easier
for us to directly
communicate from
the aircraft to the ground.
I'm gonna head back
over to the ranch.
You guys get in the air.
We're burning daylight, right?
See you.
- All right, see you in a bit.
While I'm in the plane
above the ranch,
the rest of the team
will be monitoring from below.
I'm really excited
to see what happens
during the course
of the experiment.
I've got these antennas running.
This is going out to
the two jaggies. - Okay.
Once she gets over here,
we should, uh,
see her start tracking on there.
Okay.
We're going to monitor
this experiment
with a couple of
different systems.
First, we have an ADSB.
Now, that identifies
all the air traffic flying
in the vicinity of the ranch
and shows them on a map.
We've also mounted two antennas
on the deck
of the command center.
Those are pointed
at the triangle
to track the signals being
broadcast from Kendra's plane
as well as scan
for any dangerous energy spikes
like we've detected
there in the past.
All right, great.
Ah, let me get this going.
There it is, got it.
All right, both are
Both antennas and radios
are functioning properly.
Hey, Kaleb.
This is the command center,
do you copy?
Go ahead.
Start keeping an eye out,
probably five to ten minutes
before we see them.
10-4. You guys will be
the first to know.
This may be them right here
'cause this looks like
would this be
Roosevelt right here?
No. So, Roosevelt Airport
is about right here.
Oh, then why are we not seeing
their ADSB take off?
I don't understand that.
We're not getting them.
So, we need to make sure that
their, uh, ADSB is transponding.
Even though the Cessna
was approaching the ranch,
it never showed up
on the ADSB system.
All the other air traffic
in the area appeared on the map,
and I could see
with our antenna set up
that she was still broadcasting.
What could cause Kendra's plane
not to show up
on the ADSB like that?
It makes no sense.
Why are we not
- We're not picking them up.
Here.
Hey, Erik, this is Travis,
do you copy?
We-we are not
seeing you on the ADSB.
I wonder if Kaleb's
gotten eyes on them.
Yeah, call Kaleb and ask him.
Go ahead.
Have you gotten eyes
on the plane yet?
10-4.
It's, uh, going over
the property now.
What the heck
is going on up there?
So why are we not
picking her up?
Hey, Erik, it's Bryant.
We are still not picking you up
on the flight tracker.
Do you have any other traffic
on the display right now?
Tell him yes.
- Yes, we do.
We are seeing all sorts
of air traffic.
But she's broadcasting
on the ADSB.
I'm watching her.
This is her, right here
with both antennas.
She's broadcasting
Yeah, I can see that.
- the signal.
I mean, this is picking up
planes that are
a hundred miles away
and 30,000 feet up.
- That doesn't
That doesn't make any sense.
I had antennas that were
tuned to that frequency,
and I could pick up the signal
coming from the airplane,
but for some reason
her system isn't working.
This is what's so weird
about the ranch.
One thing we do know is,
uh, her system does record
the ADSB data,
and even though
we will get a text file
that we can reinterpret after
the flight, but I wanted it now.
It wasn't ideal,
but we knew that Erik
was collecting GPS data
and Kendra was recording
the ADSB data.
We hoped that would be enough to
salvage some of this experiment.
So should I still
keep going over or?
Oh, yeah.
Over the middle of the triangle.
All right.
- Got it.
Wait, is that-- There they are.
Right there, look.
Thomas, in the middle.
Look in the middle.
Look way up there.
- Okay, yup.
There they are, right there.
November 8-4-7-1-7,
could you tell us your
pressure altitude, please?
So, that's
Going up to 4,000 feet
above ground level.
Gosh, she's moving fast.
Thomas, I got them
coming in eastbound
over the triangle again.
While Erik and Kendra
were continuing
their pattern sweep
above the triangle,
all we could do back
in the command center
was just hope that they were
getting data that we could use.
Hopefully, the GPS trackers
are the saving grace
for this experiment,
because we're not getting
what we want out of this.
- Yeah,
I'm hoping I can
salvage something out of it.
We have not had
a single experiment
out at the triangle,
up in the air,
that has gone per plan.
So, what is it
about the triangle
and us trying to do
experiments at the triangle
that seems to trigger,
you know, irregularities?
It seems
like someone or something,
doesn't want us
to collect data
from the triangle.
That's what it seems like.
It's a pattern.
It's certainly
making it hard for us.
Copy that.
What happened?
What the heck is that?
What just suddenly
popped up on What?
That 1.6.
It was there for a couple
seconds, now it's gone.
It sure as heck was.
What are you hearing?
All right, what's going on?
We're not broadcasting
anything like that. All right.
So, yeah, we're not
broadcasting anything like that.
Negative, Erik,
there's, uh, nothing within
40, 50 miles of the ranch.
Is it another airplane?
We were all totally mystified
when both Erik and Kendra,
the pilot, suddenly reported
that some kind of shadow was
tracking along with the Cessna.
That's extremely strange.
We checked our ADSB system
and there was no
other plane in the area.
It immediately made me
think of last year
when Erik and I were
in the helicopter
with Cameron Fugal
over the triangle
and something showed up
on his radar
just 50 feet beneath us.
There's something underneath us
according to the radar.
That we later identified
in camera footage
as some kind of shadowy UAP.
Kaleb, do you have eyes
on a second aircraft?
I am scanning now.
Look at that.
- The 1.6 is going crazy.
I don't know what that is.
In the middle of all
this chaos, once again
the spectrum analyzer suddenly
registered an RF radiation spike
at a frequency
of 1.6 gigahertz.
Now, that's the same
kind of energy spike
we've seen over and over when
UAPs have appeared in the past.
And it happened at the same time
Erik and Kendra were seeing
the shadow of some sort
of mysterious aircraft.
What is that?
What the heck?
What?
Why is that picking us up?
Uh
It's picking us all up.
Just after the 1.6
gigahertz RF spike
in the control room,
we suddenly heard our own voices
being broadcast
and echoing back at us.
Call them and tell them
to give me the signal.
Stand by, stand by
for one moment, please.
There's no way that
should have been possible.
It was like we were
being recorded
by someone or something
in real time.
Maybe it's in here.
That is
telling us that one of us
is broadcasting at
1.623800 gigahertz.
That is really odd.
Erik and I have been having
a conversation lately
that we think that
there could be
an eavesdropping device here.
Maybe we've been detecting it
with the spectrum analyzers.
And it
That might be it.
Really?
And so, somebody is
turning it on and off
which is why we're not
seeing it all the time.
Possibly.
The strange energy spike
along with the sound frequency
from the radio
and our voices being
broadcast and echoing
back at us could mean
that we are being
surveilled on the ranch.
But what I can't even
begin to explain,
especially given
that Erik and Kendra saw
what they believed to be a UAP,
is what the source of
that surveillance could be.
I'm gonna walk outside
and see if somehow it's on me
and then maybe
you guys take turns.
So, you go out and talk.
Right.
- We'll listen for you.
Okay. Yep. - And then we can
send him out there with you.
Hello, can you guys hear me?
Hello, testing, testing
Well, we can hear him.
- Yeah.
This has me really concerned.
The fact that
there is something or someone
that could be listening to us
and actually broadcasting
our sound back to us again?
Why is this happening?
So, we could still
hear you outside.
Huh.
Testing, testing, testing.
Are you guys picking me up
at all? Testing, testing.
The most troubling thing for me
was hearing Travis, Bryant
and myself being broadcast
over this frequency.
What in the crap does that mean?
I've said before,
is there not any
safe place on the ranch?
I would say now, is there
any private place on the ranch?
The signal stopped.
What have we played with?
- What just happened?
That was really odd.
So, we are descending now
We were getting
this interference
on our, on our comms.
Erik, I don't like that.
I would advise that you come
down, from a safety standpoint.
head on back to
the airport from there.
Well, they're done. That's it.
They're headed
back to the airport.
Erik's still got the handheld
if we want to talk
to him on his way,
but they'll be at the airport
in five or ten minutes.
All right.
The main bit of data
that we're really
looking forward to
is the GPS data
that Erik and I put
in the plane,
it's collecting it real time
on the computer so we know
it's actually working.
And when he gets on
the ground and we crunch that,
we're gonna be able
to create a GPS anomaly map
over the entire ranch
from a thousand feet
to 6,000 feet
above ground level.
They'll be there
before I get there,
so I probably need to get going.
Okay.
- Okay.
Well, hey, Jon.
- Hey, hello.
After meeting
with Jon at McConkie,
it was obvious that he needed
to come to Skinwalker Ranch.
His interpretation
of the petroglyphs
and pictographs
that are up on the walls
at McConkie Ranch
could be really interesting
to Erik and Travis.
There's a lot of similarities
in what we saw there
and then there are some
things here that
I've never seen before
and we hope
you can give us some insight on.
Right, I'd love to see them.
Let's jump in the Ranger
and head down.
We've found
a strange notable location
on top of the mesa,
and we are hoping
to get his take
on what it is.
So, it is just right
kind of at the top of this mesa,
so it's a little bit of a hike.
It's important that we explore
what all these sites could mean
in the bigger picture
of the ranch.
Yeah, so, this spot is
some sort of mound.
Absolutely amazing.
The fact that there's
all of these stones
around what seems to be
some sort of mound
in the very middle.
What do you think?
I get the sense that this is
something sacred here.
That it was purpose-built.
I was gonna make a suggestion.
Mm-hmm.
- Um
In a lot of native
cultures, your
you approach things
from a clockwise direction.
So, uh, what I'd like to do
is approach this and go around
in a clockwise manner
and take a look at things.
- Okay.
It's just a sign of respect
on any type of sacred site
and we just want
to honor that here.
If you go counterclockwise,
it's kind of a negative thing.
Let's do that.
- Yeah, why don't you lead the way?
We got up to the top
of the mesa there
and to me it looked almost like
a Stonehenge-type structure
with these rocks in a circular
pattern around there.
Traditional beliefs
with the Navajo are
something that is brought up
when you're a child.
You grow up
in that there is
a certain way to act,
there is a certain way
to do things
and so, you would start
and go clockwise around it
and come back to it to complete
the circle before you entered.
Um, that's just traditional--
most native tribes.
So, I want to stop
and show you something
on this boulder.
Maybe you want to step over
and look at it here yourself
for just a minute,
but there were a few things
that seemed worth noting.
What do you think of those?
What I'm seeing here
is four distinct lines
that are carved into this rock
and, uh, typically,
they could be marking
periods of time.
We don't know what the time was.
And then - And around the side
there, you'll see
You see right
where you're standing.
You see that little
- Yeah.
We understand the erosion here,
but that hole
Right.
- Yeah, so
That looks like
it could be natural?
Well, this one, uh, if you
if you sight through it,
it's right on the horizon.
- Mm-hmm.
When you're looking at it.
And during spring and fall,
when the sun rises,
it-it comes straight
through this hole.
Yeah.
So, what do you believe this is?
This place?
- This is, uh,
is rather interesting.
Uh, when I see mounds like this,
it could be a holy place.
I'm thinking here's a place
where prayers were offered.
A sacred place.
I believe that
this area was used
as a talisman to keep
the evil on that side.
That's incredible.
Hmm.
I'm thinking there's
definitely something here.
And I-I just, I can
I can feel it in my bones, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Well, let's continue around
and complete the circle.
- Okay.
Looking at this place
in its entirety, it struck me
as a holy place.
It could have been used as
some kind of protection ceremony
to keep whatever is historically
here on Skinwalker Ranch
from traveling over the mesa.
And we have basically
a spiral right here
that's been put
into this ground here.
And as we've seen
today at McConkie
and maybe here, that spiral
is indicative of
A portal,
a dimensional rift, an opening.
The ancient people that
populated this land
knew of this place.
There's evil there, there is
something that can kill you,
whether it's skinwalkers
or some kind of malignant power.
So, it doesn't strike me
as unusual, this spiritual
idea, this warding off
of what could come that way.
So, Jon,
you've enlightened us so much
and given us
so much more to work on,
and added greatly
to our investigation, so
Well, good, good. I'm glad.
- Yeah.
Thank you for having me
out here.
Thank you for coming and
spending this much time with us.
Yeah, let's head back down.
We're going to take a look at
the data that we got out of
the experiment with the Cessna.
I've got our own data.
We also have some data
from the pilot.
Oh, good.
The day after
our Cessna experiment
over the triangle, Erik has
all the data sorted out.
So, we're eager to see
what he was able to collect,
given all the bizarre things
that happened during the flight.
I'm glad that you had
instruments on board
because we got
bubkes of data here.
Right.
Now, I know, during
the course of the experiment,
we could never
pick her up on the radar.
You're talking about
the ADSB receiver?
Yeah.
- Yeah.
Yeah, we saw you leave Roosevelt
and go back to Roosevelt,
but that's it.
- Right after
all the frustrations
I know we had on the ground.
I mean, the stuff that I got
out of the actual data logging,
it's really perplexing.
Get this.
These little guys,
they receive signals
directly from the satellites.
They're GPS tracker units.
I had five of these things
on the flight.
The data from four of the five
was either absent or garbled.
And get this.
The one that worked,
it's flawless.
This is really suggestive
that there is something
locally going on here.
Well, let's see it.
Yeah, let me bring this up.
So, here we are at
the Roosevelt airstrip.
And we did, just as planned,
we did several altitudes
making those S-turns
and, uh, doing what we call
the push broom pattern.
So, you said that
her system data-logged
Uh-huh. - uh, on board.
So, what did it show?
You're not going
to believe this.
So, this is what
one of our units got.
And as I said, it looks pristine.
It really does.
I don't see anything in that,
that looks like anything
jumped out of
I mean, yeah.
Now, you guys are
not gonna believe this.
Let me show you what
I received from Kendra.
Uh
is that under the ranch?
So, yeah. I need
to explain this.
Look at that.
Uh-huh.
- That's interesting.
Just as you saw
with the yellow tracks
from our trackers,
uh, you see the flight out.
Mm-hmm.
- Okay?
She's taking this path.
We execute one loop,
if you will, over the property
and then everything falls apart.
Many of the altitude readings
that she reported were
far beneath the ground;
in fact, beneath sea level.
And not just beneath
sea level, but 62 and a half
miles below sea level.
62 and a half miles?
- ERIK: Yes.
62 and a half miles is
the altitude above sea level
that is considered
the von Kármán line
where you go from
atmosphere to space.
And that's exactly
62 and a half?
And this is-is exactly
62 and a half miles.
So, why did this choose
62 and a half miles
under the ground?
What do you get
when you go there?
That is weird, though.
But this also is not
the first time we've had
GPS telling instrumentation that
it's underground. Below ground.
I know. That's right.
- That's the point.
These blue cubes appear to be
70 feet below
the surface of the mesa.
Two weeks ago,
when we flew up
into the mile-high zone
above the triangle
in Brandon's helicopter,
our GPS data indicated
that we flew into the mesa
and traveled through it
for several hundred feet.
It looks like
you smashed into the mesa.
What the heck?
Now, this new GPS data
collected over the same zone
above the triangle indicates
that the Cessna went
into and below the mesa
the same distance that it is
from sea level to outer space.
What in the hell
could that possibly mean?
Given this,
and especially the fact
that it seems like
we're being monitored out here,
with that strange
projecting of
our voices remotely,
it's definitely
a security issue and so,
I'm going to let Brandon
know what's going on
and I'm sure he's
going to be curious
to know what's going on
with the data as well.
You know, I'm trying to think
of other ways to look
at this anomaly other
than just GPS systems.
What if we got some telescopes
and we looked
through the anomaly,
and if it is some sort
of optical
or gravitational anomaly,
our atmosphere should change.
And it should change in a way
that it's not supposed to.
And then, we would measure,
"Hey, look, there's something,
an anomaly there,"
and that would be data.
Well, I'm going
to go call Brandon.
Yeah, I'll reach out
to the astronomy guys.
That's cool stuff, Erik.
Previous researchers
have commented
that theirs is the impression
that the ranch phenomenology
responds, if not anticipates,
the experiments
that they have attempted,
and we do see some
support for that
in our experience here
over the years.
Perhaps what we're seeing
with the ADSB
transponder data receiver is
an example of that interference.
There are so many GPS
anomalies that we're seeing.
There could be actually
some advanced physics
like you would see
in science fiction,
or like the stories
of portals opening up.
Now, if that's the case,
we could be on the edge
of some amazing discoveries.
Even with continued events
occurring at the triangle,
we have setbacks.
It seems like something
continues to push back on us
and create obstacles.
I think that just makes the team
more determined than ever
to try to find out
what is behind
a lot of the strange activity
on Skinwalker Ranch.
We would like to look
through the anomaly
at an astronomical object
and see if they seem obscured.
Erik, the cows have scattered
through the entire field.
Something's
definitely scared them.
What the hell
is that in the sky?
That thing is big and spherical.
Yes, it is.
It's got a black dot in
the center of it. - What?
There is something
I'd like to get your eyes on.
Whoa! What was that?
- There, there.
That's the brightest
thing in the sky.
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- Uh, his head is starting to hurt.
Here, jump in here real quick.
We may have to get you
off the ranch.
The fact that something
would be interfering
points to malevolent intent.
In our tradition,
if you see something,
you don't talk about it.
Hey, Look! UAP right there. Yup.
So we have a region
in altitude that tells us
there is some kind on phenomenon
taking place right here
over the triangle.
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in Northern Utah.
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I don't know if it's
the things we're doing
that's stimulating these things
like launching rockets.
But there seems to be
something happening that is
jamming, hacking, spoofing us.
We've recently conducted
two new experiments at
the triangle and have gotten
more confirmation
that something strange
is happening about
a mile above that area.
Three, two, one, bottle drop.
First, we dropped GPS units
from Brandon's helicopter
down through it.
Holy cow. Look at that.
So we threw it out right there
and then, look, it goes upwind.
But something we couldn't see
seemed to deflect
our instruments
away from the spot.
The rocket is going hot.
Then, we launched rockets
up there with a team
of former military experts
who brought a specialized
tracking system
for studying UAP.
Hey look, UAP right there.
- Yep. I see it.
We did stimulate something
to appear in the sky,
but the tracking system
mysteriously shut down
over and over
You got to be kidding me.
preventing us
from getting any data.
Everything just went off-line.
We need to find a way
to collect data in that zone
for a sustained period of time
to figure out just what's
causing these strange events
that keep happening
on Skinwalker Ranch.
Well, you know,
these rockets are great
and we're seeing this data.
The problem with them is
they go up so fast
and come down so fast,
I don't feel like you guys are
really getting a lot of data.
A typical flight trajectory is,
even with a very
big chute on them,
is less than 20 or 30 seconds.
Yeah. - So,
it would be nice to linger there
like with a fixed-wing aircraft
that we could just keep fly--
orbiting over the spot,
or something.
You know, where we just make
a push broom-type of pattern
at various altitudes.
You could do that with, like,
a Cessna or something like that
and you could put
plenty of instruments in it.
They could go about a hundred
miles an hour, or slower,
and just push broom back
and forth over the ranch.
And then you could
go up in altitude
and do it again
and keep doing it.
We could get a complete 3D map
of GPS, gamma rays, radio,
whatever we wanted
to do like that.
Well, we've talked about this
for a while, I say we do it.
Right.
- I'll bet you
that Cameron knows somebody,
that's got a plane that would
do this, that would help us out.
Okay, should we go do it?
We need to reach out to Cameron
to see if he can help us out.
Sounds good.
Thanks, Erik.
Right up here is where
the petroglyph is.
Okay.
While we were preparing
for the experiment
above the triangle,
Tom Lewis
and Kandus Linde went to
nearby McConkie Ranch
to meet with a respected
Navajo Nation's member
named Jon Dover.
I think he said he was
going to meet us
just at the trailhead up here.
- Hello!
I'm up here.
- Jon.
Hello.
Come on up.
Let's head on up.
Now, we want
any information that can
help us with our investigation
and the Indigenous people
in this region
have a long history with
all kinds of strange phenomenon.
You're good?
- Oh, yeah.
Just recently,
we met with Corey Serawop
who shared a story with us
about his experience
in the Uinta Basin.
One thing he brought up was
that we should visit
McConkie Ranch and check out
the petroglyphs there.
This is amazing.
Wow, yeah.
Jon Dover has
a deep understanding
of the petroglyphs
and pictographs that are up
on the walls at McConkie Ranch.
And so, Kandus and I
are very interested
to hear what Jon has to say.
Ah, there you are. Hi.
- Hey, there.
Glad you made it.
- Thanks so much for having us.
Kandus.
- Jon.
Jon, nice to meet you.
And I'm Tom.
- Hi, Tom.
My name is Jonathan Dover.
I spent 27 years
as a, uh, archeological
resource investigator
with the Navajo Nation Rangers.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, this place is amazing.
This is one place
of a whole bunch of places
that have petroglyphs
that were put on these rocks
a thousand years ago
or even earlier than that.
Mm-hmm.
The ancient people
that populated
this place and some of the other
places around here show
that the natives back then
were seeing unusual
things happening
and were recording them, too.
There's a lot of information
that's put on these rocks
and they are put on
in successive "timescape."
Everybody that came through
would add something to it.
They're a record and
unusual things would be
documented on them.
They could depict clans,
they could depict Gods,
they could even
depict maps of the area.
Yeah, we have a few small panels
at the ranch and we're really
trying to tie anything together
that's in this region
to the ranch, to see if there's
connections or anything
that we could draw
lines to.
We'll definitely see
some connections here.
Excellent.
If we go further down here,
we're going to take
a look at one of them.
Great.
- Show us the way.
Wow.
Here is the most interesting
one that I've found so far,
is this spiral right here.
The spiral seems
to be universal.
All through
the United States,
through the Southwest,
in Europe, in Africa.
Some archeologists
tell me that this spiral
could refer to
some kind of a portal.
A portal?
- Yeah, a portal.
Okay.
And, uh, we think
that there's something
called infrasound.
Which is different
frequencies of sound
that you can't detect them
with human hearing.
And we believe that
it's very possible
that these different frequencies
can open portals
to other places.
For two years now,
all over Skinwalker Ranch
we've seen this strange signal
with an RF frequency
of 1.6 gigahertz.
We've got liftoff.
Oh, my God, during launch
the electromagnetic
spectrum is going
crazy, guys-- I've never
seen anything like it.
No technology that we know of
uses this specific
1.6 gigahertz frequency,
but we often see it
when people have
physiological
episodes on the ranch,
and also, when we've seen UAPs.
Now, the idea that UAP
and strange frequencies
are somehow connected to
a phenomenon like a portal,
is very interesting,
especially since many
of the Indigenous people
in this area truly believe
that connection exists.
You're saying this is a portal?
Or could be a portal?
This very much
could be a portal.
The significance of portals
or dimensional gates,
if you would
Mm-hmm.
is that
the Navajos themselves
talk about a people
coming to visit.
Different dimensions
are not like walls.
If you can imagine
they're interlaced together.
So,
what if every now and then
something just leaks through?
Mm-hmm.
- You could travel,
we just don't know how to do it.
- Yeah.
Even the Navajo creation story
talks about coming through
several different worlds
until they see a hole in the sky
and they climb up
into this world.
We think that there's something
going on with frequency
that is creating this effect.
Wow.
There's a lot more
we need to look at up here.
All right.
- So, we'll move along here.
As we were looking at
this spiral petroglyph
described as a portal,
Kandus and I realized
there is some sort
of connection here
with what's happening
on the ranch
and possibly at the triangle.
We've heard a lot of
very interesting stories
about seeing portals
that opened right
above people's heads
and figures coming out
of these portals.
It's amazing.
- Yeah.
Oh, yeah. I see it.
Oh, and that's like a human
It's another figure.
One thing I've just
thought about is, you know,
just on this rock wall
right here,
and it is speculation
and inference
Right.
- But
we could have
a skinwalker shape-shifter.
We could have
aliens. - Somebody coming
through another dimension.
Through other dimensions.
- Right.
The idea of Navajo skinwalkers,
gods coming from the sky,
even UFOs,
all had one thing in common
and that's this idea
of dimensions and portals,
and it's the one thing
that ties everything together.
With the spirals
back here that you were
talking about could be
indicative of-of a portal,
it could be that
it was right here
or maybe off in the distance?
What do you think?
It-it could be a whole
range of things.
We've actually
had stories involving
UAPs that have
entered into mesas
and just gone
right into the rock.
This idea of portals,
of dimensions,
it all ties together, and that's
what we're seeing with a lot
of these places and I think
that's what you're
experiencing
in the Uinta Basin there.
A lot of phenomenon
that's associated
with cross-dimensional
things going on.
Wow. We'd really love
to have you come to the ranch
and look at a few things.
Based on what
you've told us today
and your interpretation
of these panels,
I think there's a good
chance that the same
people that were here
could've very well been
on our ranch at one point.
I think we'd both benefit
from you coming to the ranch
and giving your insight to
what we've seen there.
- We have some
very interesting things
right on the Skinwalker Ranch.
It might be things you've
never seen before, so
I'd love to come over there.
- Great.
Lead the way.
I think we should
stop right here.
Because of what happened
last year with the sensors
on Brandon's helicopter
detecting an object
right below us,
and also, what happened
just two weeks ago
when we dropped GPS units
into the triangle anomaly
which appeared
to just bounce off
of an invisible object
in the sky above the ranch
Hey, Kendra, how are you?
- Hey.
we really
wanted to go further
with attempting
to map that anomaly.
So, to conduct
today's experiment
above the triangle area,
Cameron Fugal put us in touch
with a pilot named Kendra Hart
who's agreed to take
Erik up in her Cessna
to help us collect our data.
Since you fly out here, have
you flown over the property?
The ranch itself?
I have not.
Most of my students
stay further west and so,
this will be my first time
this far out east
and especially
over the ranch, so
Really?
- Yeah, it will be my first time.
First time? - First time. So
What we want to do is fly
from here over to the ranch.
When you get there,
we would like for you
to do a grid pattern,
at, uh, five
different altitudes.
Erik will show you
the points of interest,
but there's a triangle right
in the middle of the property
and directly above that,
between, say,
2,500 and 5,000 feet,
we've seen some weird things.
Okay.
- And, so we're hoping to get
some instrumentation
in that area
and see if we can figure out
what those weird things are.
Awesome.
- One thing that,
uh, not to scare you,
but occasionally,
when people are
on the ranch and even
above the ranch have
sort of a physiological
response to being there.
If you start feeling
anything at any point,
you know, you're the pilot,
if it's time to
abort the mission
'cause you got a weird feeling,
then you abort the mission.
All right?
- Mm-hmm.
Well, we've got some work
to do to get ready to go
and you may have
some flight prep
or something.
- Absolutely.
So, we'll be maybe in
and out of the cargo area
for the next couple minutes and
then we'll be ready to go. - Okay.
Let's get it done.
All right, Erik, let's grab everything.
I'll be going up in
the Cessna aircraft today
with some GPS trackers
and a data-logging
radiation meter,
our standard equipment set
including our spectrum analyzer,
Geiger counter
and other local equipment
to observe whether
there are any GPS anomalies
up near the 5,000-foot point
over the triangle.
All right.
I'm gonna close it up and
then go put it in the plane.
Sounds good.
Today, the plan is to fly
the Cessna in a sequential push
broom pattern over the ranch
sweeping back and forth
over the triangle
at various altitudes.
At the same time,
using the GPS sensors
to collect data
that we hope will give us
a three-dimensional model
of the anomaly
that we believe is up there
somewhere between
3,000 and 5,000 feet
above the ground.
What do you got there?
- This is your headset.
Got it.
- Okay, and then, this is the radio
that we are using
for the radio source.
For this experiment,
we're also making use of
a new avionic comm system,
making it easier
for us to directly
communicate from
the aircraft to the ground.
I'm gonna head back
over to the ranch.
You guys get in the air.
We're burning daylight, right?
See you.
- All right, see you in a bit.
While I'm in the plane
above the ranch,
the rest of the team
will be monitoring from below.
I'm really excited
to see what happens
during the course
of the experiment.
I've got these antennas running.
This is going out to
the two jaggies. - Okay.
Once she gets over here,
we should, uh,
see her start tracking on there.
Okay.
We're going to monitor
this experiment
with a couple of
different systems.
First, we have an ADSB.
Now, that identifies
all the air traffic flying
in the vicinity of the ranch
and shows them on a map.
We've also mounted two antennas
on the deck
of the command center.
Those are pointed
at the triangle
to track the signals being
broadcast from Kendra's plane
as well as scan
for any dangerous energy spikes
like we've detected
there in the past.
All right, great.
Ah, let me get this going.
There it is, got it.
All right, both are
Both antennas and radios
are functioning properly.
Hey, Kaleb.
This is the command center,
do you copy?
Go ahead.
Start keeping an eye out,
probably five to ten minutes
before we see them.
10-4. You guys will be
the first to know.
This may be them right here
'cause this looks like
would this be
Roosevelt right here?
No. So, Roosevelt Airport
is about right here.
Oh, then why are we not seeing
their ADSB take off?
I don't understand that.
We're not getting them.
So, we need to make sure that
their, uh, ADSB is transponding.
Even though the Cessna
was approaching the ranch,
it never showed up
on the ADSB system.
All the other air traffic
in the area appeared on the map,
and I could see
with our antenna set up
that she was still broadcasting.
What could cause Kendra's plane
not to show up
on the ADSB like that?
It makes no sense.
Why are we not
- We're not picking them up.
Here.
Hey, Erik, this is Travis,
do you copy?
We-we are not
seeing you on the ADSB.
I wonder if Kaleb's
gotten eyes on them.
Yeah, call Kaleb and ask him.
Go ahead.
Have you gotten eyes
on the plane yet?
10-4.
It's, uh, going over
the property now.
What the heck
is going on up there?
So why are we not
picking her up?
Hey, Erik, it's Bryant.
We are still not picking you up
on the flight tracker.
Do you have any other traffic
on the display right now?
Tell him yes.
- Yes, we do.
We are seeing all sorts
of air traffic.
But she's broadcasting
on the ADSB.
I'm watching her.
This is her, right here
with both antennas.
She's broadcasting
Yeah, I can see that.
- the signal.
I mean, this is picking up
planes that are
a hundred miles away
and 30,000 feet up.
- That doesn't
That doesn't make any sense.
I had antennas that were
tuned to that frequency,
and I could pick up the signal
coming from the airplane,
but for some reason
her system isn't working.
This is what's so weird
about the ranch.
One thing we do know is,
uh, her system does record
the ADSB data,
and even though
we will get a text file
that we can reinterpret after
the flight, but I wanted it now.
It wasn't ideal,
but we knew that Erik
was collecting GPS data
and Kendra was recording
the ADSB data.
We hoped that would be enough to
salvage some of this experiment.
So should I still
keep going over or?
Oh, yeah.
Over the middle of the triangle.
All right.
- Got it.
Wait, is that-- There they are.
Right there, look.
Thomas, in the middle.
Look in the middle.
Look way up there.
- Okay, yup.
There they are, right there.
November 8-4-7-1-7,
could you tell us your
pressure altitude, please?
So, that's
Going up to 4,000 feet
above ground level.
Gosh, she's moving fast.
Thomas, I got them
coming in eastbound
over the triangle again.
While Erik and Kendra
were continuing
their pattern sweep
above the triangle,
all we could do back
in the command center
was just hope that they were
getting data that we could use.
Hopefully, the GPS trackers
are the saving grace
for this experiment,
because we're not getting
what we want out of this.
- Yeah,
I'm hoping I can
salvage something out of it.
We have not had
a single experiment
out at the triangle,
up in the air,
that has gone per plan.
So, what is it
about the triangle
and us trying to do
experiments at the triangle
that seems to trigger,
you know, irregularities?
It seems
like someone or something,
doesn't want us
to collect data
from the triangle.
That's what it seems like.
It's a pattern.
It's certainly
making it hard for us.
Copy that.
What happened?
What the heck is that?
What just suddenly
popped up on What?
That 1.6.
It was there for a couple
seconds, now it's gone.
It sure as heck was.
What are you hearing?
All right, what's going on?
We're not broadcasting
anything like that. All right.
So, yeah, we're not
broadcasting anything like that.
Negative, Erik,
there's, uh, nothing within
40, 50 miles of the ranch.
Is it another airplane?
We were all totally mystified
when both Erik and Kendra,
the pilot, suddenly reported
that some kind of shadow was
tracking along with the Cessna.
That's extremely strange.
We checked our ADSB system
and there was no
other plane in the area.
It immediately made me
think of last year
when Erik and I were
in the helicopter
with Cameron Fugal
over the triangle
and something showed up
on his radar
just 50 feet beneath us.
There's something underneath us
according to the radar.
That we later identified
in camera footage
as some kind of shadowy UAP.
Kaleb, do you have eyes
on a second aircraft?
I am scanning now.
Look at that.
- The 1.6 is going crazy.
I don't know what that is.
In the middle of all
this chaos, once again
the spectrum analyzer suddenly
registered an RF radiation spike
at a frequency
of 1.6 gigahertz.
Now, that's the same
kind of energy spike
we've seen over and over when
UAPs have appeared in the past.
And it happened at the same time
Erik and Kendra were seeing
the shadow of some sort
of mysterious aircraft.
What is that?
What the heck?
What?
Why is that picking us up?
Uh
It's picking us all up.
Just after the 1.6
gigahertz RF spike
in the control room,
we suddenly heard our own voices
being broadcast
and echoing back at us.
Call them and tell them
to give me the signal.
Stand by, stand by
for one moment, please.
There's no way that
should have been possible.
It was like we were
being recorded
by someone or something
in real time.
Maybe it's in here.
That is
telling us that one of us
is broadcasting at
1.623800 gigahertz.
That is really odd.
Erik and I have been having
a conversation lately
that we think that
there could be
an eavesdropping device here.
Maybe we've been detecting it
with the spectrum analyzers.
And it
That might be it.
Really?
And so, somebody is
turning it on and off
which is why we're not
seeing it all the time.
Possibly.
The strange energy spike
along with the sound frequency
from the radio
and our voices being
broadcast and echoing
back at us could mean
that we are being
surveilled on the ranch.
But what I can't even
begin to explain,
especially given
that Erik and Kendra saw
what they believed to be a UAP,
is what the source of
that surveillance could be.
I'm gonna walk outside
and see if somehow it's on me
and then maybe
you guys take turns.
So, you go out and talk.
Right.
- We'll listen for you.
Okay. Yep. - And then we can
send him out there with you.
Hello, can you guys hear me?
Hello, testing, testing
Well, we can hear him.
- Yeah.
This has me really concerned.
The fact that
there is something or someone
that could be listening to us
and actually broadcasting
our sound back to us again?
Why is this happening?
So, we could still
hear you outside.
Huh.
Testing, testing, testing.
Are you guys picking me up
at all? Testing, testing.
The most troubling thing for me
was hearing Travis, Bryant
and myself being broadcast
over this frequency.
What in the crap does that mean?
I've said before,
is there not any
safe place on the ranch?
I would say now, is there
any private place on the ranch?
The signal stopped.
What have we played with?
- What just happened?
That was really odd.
So, we are descending now
We were getting
this interference
on our, on our comms.
Erik, I don't like that.
I would advise that you come
down, from a safety standpoint.
head on back to
the airport from there.
Well, they're done. That's it.
They're headed
back to the airport.
Erik's still got the handheld
if we want to talk
to him on his way,
but they'll be at the airport
in five or ten minutes.
All right.
The main bit of data
that we're really
looking forward to
is the GPS data
that Erik and I put
in the plane,
it's collecting it real time
on the computer so we know
it's actually working.
And when he gets on
the ground and we crunch that,
we're gonna be able
to create a GPS anomaly map
over the entire ranch
from a thousand feet
to 6,000 feet
above ground level.
They'll be there
before I get there,
so I probably need to get going.
Okay.
- Okay.
Well, hey, Jon.
- Hey, hello.
After meeting
with Jon at McConkie,
it was obvious that he needed
to come to Skinwalker Ranch.
His interpretation
of the petroglyphs
and pictographs
that are up on the walls
at McConkie Ranch
could be really interesting
to Erik and Travis.
There's a lot of similarities
in what we saw there
and then there are some
things here that
I've never seen before
and we hope
you can give us some insight on.
Right, I'd love to see them.
Let's jump in the Ranger
and head down.
We've found
a strange notable location
on top of the mesa,
and we are hoping
to get his take
on what it is.
So, it is just right
kind of at the top of this mesa,
so it's a little bit of a hike.
It's important that we explore
what all these sites could mean
in the bigger picture
of the ranch.
Yeah, so, this spot is
some sort of mound.
Absolutely amazing.
The fact that there's
all of these stones
around what seems to be
some sort of mound
in the very middle.
What do you think?
I get the sense that this is
something sacred here.
That it was purpose-built.
I was gonna make a suggestion.
Mm-hmm.
- Um
In a lot of native
cultures, your
you approach things
from a clockwise direction.
So, uh, what I'd like to do
is approach this and go around
in a clockwise manner
and take a look at things.
- Okay.
It's just a sign of respect
on any type of sacred site
and we just want
to honor that here.
If you go counterclockwise,
it's kind of a negative thing.
Let's do that.
- Yeah, why don't you lead the way?
We got up to the top
of the mesa there
and to me it looked almost like
a Stonehenge-type structure
with these rocks in a circular
pattern around there.
Traditional beliefs
with the Navajo are
something that is brought up
when you're a child.
You grow up
in that there is
a certain way to act,
there is a certain way
to do things
and so, you would start
and go clockwise around it
and come back to it to complete
the circle before you entered.
Um, that's just traditional--
most native tribes.
So, I want to stop
and show you something
on this boulder.
Maybe you want to step over
and look at it here yourself
for just a minute,
but there were a few things
that seemed worth noting.
What do you think of those?
What I'm seeing here
is four distinct lines
that are carved into this rock
and, uh, typically,
they could be marking
periods of time.
We don't know what the time was.
And then - And around the side
there, you'll see
You see right
where you're standing.
You see that little
- Yeah.
We understand the erosion here,
but that hole
Right.
- Yeah, so
That looks like
it could be natural?
Well, this one, uh, if you
if you sight through it,
it's right on the horizon.
- Mm-hmm.
When you're looking at it.
And during spring and fall,
when the sun rises,
it-it comes straight
through this hole.
Yeah.
So, what do you believe this is?
This place?
- This is, uh,
is rather interesting.
Uh, when I see mounds like this,
it could be a holy place.
I'm thinking here's a place
where prayers were offered.
A sacred place.
I believe that
this area was used
as a talisman to keep
the evil on that side.
That's incredible.
Hmm.
I'm thinking there's
definitely something here.
And I-I just, I can
I can feel it in my bones, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Well, let's continue around
and complete the circle.
- Okay.
Looking at this place
in its entirety, it struck me
as a holy place.
It could have been used as
some kind of protection ceremony
to keep whatever is historically
here on Skinwalker Ranch
from traveling over the mesa.
And we have basically
a spiral right here
that's been put
into this ground here.
And as we've seen
today at McConkie
and maybe here, that spiral
is indicative of
A portal,
a dimensional rift, an opening.
The ancient people that
populated this land
knew of this place.
There's evil there, there is
something that can kill you,
whether it's skinwalkers
or some kind of malignant power.
So, it doesn't strike me
as unusual, this spiritual
idea, this warding off
of what could come that way.
So, Jon,
you've enlightened us so much
and given us
so much more to work on,
and added greatly
to our investigation, so
Well, good, good. I'm glad.
- Yeah.
Thank you for having me
out here.
Thank you for coming and
spending this much time with us.
Yeah, let's head back down.
We're going to take a look at
the data that we got out of
the experiment with the Cessna.
I've got our own data.
We also have some data
from the pilot.
Oh, good.
The day after
our Cessna experiment
over the triangle, Erik has
all the data sorted out.
So, we're eager to see
what he was able to collect,
given all the bizarre things
that happened during the flight.
I'm glad that you had
instruments on board
because we got
bubkes of data here.
Right.
Now, I know, during
the course of the experiment,
we could never
pick her up on the radar.
You're talking about
the ADSB receiver?
Yeah.
- Yeah.
Yeah, we saw you leave Roosevelt
and go back to Roosevelt,
but that's it.
- Right after
all the frustrations
I know we had on the ground.
I mean, the stuff that I got
out of the actual data logging,
it's really perplexing.
Get this.
These little guys,
they receive signals
directly from the satellites.
They're GPS tracker units.
I had five of these things
on the flight.
The data from four of the five
was either absent or garbled.
And get this.
The one that worked,
it's flawless.
This is really suggestive
that there is something
locally going on here.
Well, let's see it.
Yeah, let me bring this up.
So, here we are at
the Roosevelt airstrip.
And we did, just as planned,
we did several altitudes
making those S-turns
and, uh, doing what we call
the push broom pattern.
So, you said that
her system data-logged
Uh-huh. - uh, on board.
So, what did it show?
You're not going
to believe this.
So, this is what
one of our units got.
And as I said, it looks pristine.
It really does.
I don't see anything in that,
that looks like anything
jumped out of
I mean, yeah.
Now, you guys are
not gonna believe this.
Let me show you what
I received from Kendra.
Uh
is that under the ranch?
So, yeah. I need
to explain this.
Look at that.
Uh-huh.
- That's interesting.
Just as you saw
with the yellow tracks
from our trackers,
uh, you see the flight out.
Mm-hmm.
- Okay?
She's taking this path.
We execute one loop,
if you will, over the property
and then everything falls apart.
Many of the altitude readings
that she reported were
far beneath the ground;
in fact, beneath sea level.
And not just beneath
sea level, but 62 and a half
miles below sea level.
62 and a half miles?
- ERIK: Yes.
62 and a half miles is
the altitude above sea level
that is considered
the von Kármán line
where you go from
atmosphere to space.
And that's exactly
62 and a half?
And this is-is exactly
62 and a half miles.
So, why did this choose
62 and a half miles
under the ground?
What do you get
when you go there?
That is weird, though.
But this also is not
the first time we've had
GPS telling instrumentation that
it's underground. Below ground.
I know. That's right.
- That's the point.
These blue cubes appear to be
70 feet below
the surface of the mesa.
Two weeks ago,
when we flew up
into the mile-high zone
above the triangle
in Brandon's helicopter,
our GPS data indicated
that we flew into the mesa
and traveled through it
for several hundred feet.
It looks like
you smashed into the mesa.
What the heck?
Now, this new GPS data
collected over the same zone
above the triangle indicates
that the Cessna went
into and below the mesa
the same distance that it is
from sea level to outer space.
What in the hell
could that possibly mean?
Given this,
and especially the fact
that it seems like
we're being monitored out here,
with that strange
projecting of
our voices remotely,
it's definitely
a security issue and so,
I'm going to let Brandon
know what's going on
and I'm sure he's
going to be curious
to know what's going on
with the data as well.
You know, I'm trying to think
of other ways to look
at this anomaly other
than just GPS systems.
What if we got some telescopes
and we looked
through the anomaly,
and if it is some sort
of optical
or gravitational anomaly,
our atmosphere should change.
And it should change in a way
that it's not supposed to.
And then, we would measure,
"Hey, look, there's something,
an anomaly there,"
and that would be data.
Well, I'm going
to go call Brandon.
Yeah, I'll reach out
to the astronomy guys.
That's cool stuff, Erik.
Previous researchers
have commented
that theirs is the impression
that the ranch phenomenology
responds, if not anticipates,
the experiments
that they have attempted,
and we do see some
support for that
in our experience here
over the years.
Perhaps what we're seeing
with the ADSB
transponder data receiver is
an example of that interference.
There are so many GPS
anomalies that we're seeing.
There could be actually
some advanced physics
like you would see
in science fiction,
or like the stories
of portals opening up.
Now, if that's the case,
we could be on the edge
of some amazing discoveries.
Even with continued events
occurring at the triangle,
we have setbacks.
It seems like something
continues to push back on us
and create obstacles.
I think that just makes the team
more determined than ever
to try to find out
what is behind
a lot of the strange activity
on Skinwalker Ranch.
We would like to look
through the anomaly
at an astronomical object
and see if they seem obscured.
Erik, the cows have scattered
through the entire field.
Something's
definitely scared them.
What the hell
is that in the sky?
That thing is big and spherical.
Yes, it is.
It's got a black dot in
the center of it. - What?
There is something
I'd like to get your eyes on.
Whoa! What was that?
- There, there.
That's the brightest
thing in the sky.
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