The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch (2020) s04e07 Episode Script
The Return
Boy, that thing
sounds like it's hitting
- something hard.
- It could be
maybe a dome.
There is something
in the mesa right there.
Whatever this is
is as tall as the mesa.
Whoa. What was that
purple light over there?
I'm gonna head down.
We need to know if this is
a reaction to that rocket.
- What is that?
Holy crap, it looks
like it's following Thomas.
- Looks like a deer.
- Look at this.
What the heck would
have burned this post?
You know what it looks like?
Like something just flew
right through it.
There is a
ranch in Northern Utah.
It is considered the epicenter
of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
animal mutilations,
bizarre UFO sightings
and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
For 20 years,
the federal government
tried to find answers
and failed.
Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
researchers and experts
has taken over.
They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal
The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
When was the last time
you were at the ranch, Jay?
About 11 years ago.
- 11 years ago.
A lot's changed in 11 years.
I bet a lot has changed.
Over the past couple
of months our team
has experienced more
unexplainable phenomena
on Skinwalker Ranch
than ever before.
So, while we're working
out a new strategy
to determine just what
the two possibly metallic,
dome-shaped and
vertical anomalies
we've discovered
inside the mesa are,
I've decided it's time to
invite a colleague of mine here
who has his own incredible
history with the ranch--
Jay Stratton.
The first time
you came out here,
you were probably pretty
skeptical, as I was.
I was 100% skeptical.
- Me, too, man.
I didn't believe none of it.
Jay was not only
a career defense
intelligence official
for the federal government,
but he was also my former boss
in the Unidentified
Aerial Phenomena Task Force.
And, between 2007 and 2011,
he helped create and run
a government program
with former Skinwalker Ranch
owner Robert Bigelow
to investigate
the bizarre phenomena
happening on the property.
So I came out 100% skeptical,
with the stories in mind,
but-but wanting to see
something for myself,
and the ranch didn't disappoint.
Right.
I started working
this topic in 2005.
And I came into the topic
because it was part of my job.
As the Chief of Air
and Space Warfare
at the Defense
Intelligence Agency,
I was dealing with
threats to U.S. platforms
from foreign adversaries,
highly technical capabilities.
I fell into a point where I had
to get really smart on UFOs,
and there was nobody to turn to.
So I kind of became that guy,
not by design, not-not
something I was looking for.
I've briefed and provided
written assessments
all the way
to the highest levels
of the executive branch
and the legislative branch.
I like to think
I've got a little bit
of credibility on this topic.
2007, we built this
contractual relationship
with Mr. Robert Bigelow,
and the ranch
became a contracted
Defense Intelligence Agency
observation point.
And I came out here to see
things firsthand in 2009.
Over those years, I've seen
a lot of things I can't explain.
And I'm out here again
to do this research
and hopefully better
understand this phenomena.
It did take a lot of thought
and discussion with the family
if I would do this again,
just because of all the activity
and everything else
that's out here, you know?
Right.
- There's-there's a risk,
but to me
the investigation
is more important
and too important,
so I really want to
continue down that path
of trying to get answers.
There is an accepted risk
in coming out here.
You know, no one knows
what could happen.
We're about to move into
- the ranch property here.
- All right.
This sounds crazy, but the ranch
reacts differently to me
than it does others.
Some people have a lot
of reaction out here
and some have none.
I really had to consider that
and talk to my wife
and talk to my kids.
You know, I feel the same.
I think that there's
a moral imperative to this.
I think this is
extremely important and could be
one of the most important things
in human history.
Absolutely.
The ranch itself has been
a big part of my life.
It's because of the ranch
that Travis and I came together
in a small room in the Pentagon
to talk about the phenomenon,
and we really accomplished
a lot in a short period of time.
We see each other
as-as valued teammates.
We enjoy working together.
We think we can do some
really good things together.
All right,
so we're going to get out
and we'll take you in
and show you the command center.
- Cool.
I want you all
to meet Jay Stratton.
- Good to meet you.
- Welcome back.
So, I've told them all about
you, of course.
So, what I'd like to hear
is what events happened
when you were here
that you can describe in
as much detail as you can,
so we can determine
if we've seen similar events.
Absolutely.
And have similar data that
compares to what you've seen.
So, when I came out here,
the first-first trip
out here, I was standing out,
kind of in the triangle area,
was just randomly taking
photographs and things.
Lo and behold, right over
the mesa, there was
an aircraft, craft or whatever
you want to call it.
UAP, now I would say,
which I-I coined that term.
What? You gave us that term.
So, I created "UAP." - Yes,
you can blame Jay for that, right?
- I didn't know that.
- Because I needed to
get people away from "UFO"
because of the connotations
of little green men.
So, you know, standing
there, looking up,
and over the mesa
was this dart-like craft,
I call it like
a really tight triangle,
kind of, kind of coming in.
He was level the whole time,
and shot across,
and I lost track of it.
During our investigation
here on Skinwalker Ranch,
we've seen a number
of UAPs appear
and disappear in the skies
over the property.
But two years ago,
we saw one right above the mesa
that sounds a lot like
what Jay witnessed.
Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait.
What is that right there?
Right Yeah.
- You seeing that?
- Yes, yeah.
- Back up a couple frames.
- All right.
You guys see?
Look. Right here. See this?
- What is that?
- I don't know yet.
It appears there and then right
there, right above the mesa.
Right above the mesa.
Could we be seeing
the same kind of
phenomena that Jay
and members of the Bigelow
team experienced back in 2009?
The similarities are striking.
And another example,
I think it was around 11:30
at night. As we were out
on that back deck one time,
I think there were four of us,
playing with a laser
and doing other things.
You know it was late and,
we observed a light on the mesa,
with none of us doing anything.
It was about the same spot
where we had the laser.
And I don't remember
exactly who saw what,
but one of us saw a circle,
one saw a triangle,
one saw a square, you know.
You're seeing different shapes.
There may be
a physiological explanation
for that, I don't know,
but we all saw
distinctly different shapes
of that same light.
It's like it's
giving a demonstration
for each one of us separately.
Since I joined
this investigation,
the mesa has been
a major hot spot
of unexplainable phenomena.
For example, back in 2018
Erik Bard captured
surveillance footage
of some very bizarre lights
moving across the mesa,
and even a beam of light
emitting from it.
Again, I think it was
around 11:30 at night,
and three of us were
walking down a path
joking with each other.
All of a sudden, we got quiet,
and that's because
we got to a point,
and we could feel
the temperature change.
And as we moved forward
to Homestead Two,
it got colder and colder.
There was a tree
probably 300 yards or so
shy of the Homestead Two.
The moon was real bright
and it was shining,
it cast a shadow
across that tree,
drawing a line on the road.
Now, one of my
teammates was saying
that we can't cross that line.
And we all had
the attitude, you know,
"Screw that,
we're going." Right?
We could not cross that line
no matter how hard we tried.
First thing we felt was fear,
and one of my teammates
looked up and he saw a dark mass
in the top of Homestead Two,
like a shadow figure or
something looking back at us.
And basically, that was
We felt like
whatever was going on down
there, we wanted to see it,
you know, we wanted to be there.
There is so much in
this story. I have heard
a version of this
story for years.
I didn't know, I couldn't know,
that it was you.
- It was, yeah.
One thing I've got to tell you,
just, for academic
honesty and ethics,
is that,
we're going to use you today
as part of an experiment.
But I'm not going to
tell you what that experiment is
until afterwards 'cause
I don't want to taint
the outcome of the experiment.
Right.
I've worked with Jay
for several years now,
and I've heard him say
many times how he
strongly believes
Skinwalker Ranch seemed
to react to his presence.
When I first came here,
Thomas Winterton
also told me he believed
the property reacted
more to certain
people than others.
So that gave Erik and I an idea
to see if we could
actually prove it.
The word "bait" comes to mind.
You won't be in any danger.
We're not making you
You're not shark bait
or anything like that, right?
No, I trust you guys. Yeah.
Well, I appreciate that.
So, we're gonna go on a tour
of the ranch in a little bit,
and you tell us about
the things you'd seen
and so on, and we'll be
taking data while
we're doing that.
And then, afterwards,
we'll tell you
what type of data
and that sort of thing.
Okay, yeah.
Erik and I have come up
with an experiment to test
if the ranch reacts to Jay
being back here after 11 years.
And if his presence does
stimulate phenomena to occur,
can we identify what it is?
That's what
we'd like to find out.
Again, the investigation's
important.
Obviously it makes
a lot of sense for us
to study very carefully
anything that our
instruments can detect
as we bring Jay
onto the property
and take him to certain
points of interest
from his experience,
as well as to determine
whether the ranch
would respond to
the novelty of his presence.
Well, I really like this plan.
You know, we've got a course
laid out for ourselves.
We've got some instruments
that we want to take with us,
so we should go get
the instruments prepared
and, we'll head out.
All right,
we'll meet you at the vehicles.
I figured
we could put it on the hood.
Here, I've got
I've got some foam.
Yeah, we don't want
to scratch it.
It's a common theory
that Skinwalker Ranch
responds to the presence
of certain people.
So we're going to drive
former ranch investigator
Jay Stratton
around to the hot spots
where he experienced
really bizarre phenomena
when he was a part of
the Bigelow investigation
more than a decade ago.
We'll see if him coming
back to the property
causes strange things to happen.
That ain't going anywhere.
- That's good, yeah.
So, I've got both of these
GPS trackers running
and data logging.
Okay. All right.
- We should be good to go, guys.
Erik has outfitted the Jeep
with GPS sensors,
gamma ray detectors,
and the spectrum analyzer
so we can continuously scan
for strange energy spikes
and pinpoint the locations
where anything
out of the ordinary might occur.
I'll go jump in the black.
All right, you gonna follow behind?
- Yep.
After our tour with Jay,
we'll duplicate the exact route
without him on the property.
That will allow us to compare
the collected data sets
to see if there really is
a measurable difference
between the two.
- You all in?
- You are cleared for take-off.
We'll start the tour
in the eastern portion
of the ranch.
From there we'll
head to the triangle,
travel west past
the mesa drill site,
and then on to Homestead Two.
If you see something
you want to tell us about
or ask us questions about,
just say something
and we'll stop
and we'll do that.
I want to know
exactly where you were at
with that apparition
or whatever it was.
Yeah, me, too.
All right, Jay,
now when we get to where
- Yeah.
you think it's the spot,
you just stop us.
I'm pretty sure it
was that tree right there.
You want to stop here?
- Yeah, I mean,
this is about the right spot.
All right.
So, you think it's this way?
- Yep.
No, I think we're
right at about the spot
where we started
to feel the fear.
Right in here?
- Yeah.
Where do you think the line was
in the road
- It was at that tree.
That tree?
- Yep.
I'm pretty sure that's the tree.
The first night
we were on the ranch,
it was about 11:30 at night,
and myself and my two
teammates went for a walk.
So, we walked down the road,
made our way around the curve
towards Homestead Two.
And as we made that turn,
there's a little tree
casting a shadow,
a line across the road,
and as we pushed
towards that line,
I said, "Do you guys feel that?"
And immediately
one of my teammates said,
"Yeah, the hair's standing up
on the back of my neck."
Feeling the fear
about right here,
and the temperature inversion
was about right here, too.
Really?
As we walk closer
to Homestead Two,
we felt a drastic drop
in temperature.
And it was a wall.
You could put
your arm through it,
and you could feel
the cold versus the heat.
It was a drastic drop,
something that
just didn't belong.
As soon as we come
around the corner,
the feeling was,
"Turn around, go back."
On the second floor
of Homestead Two,
through the night vision device,
we saw what resembled
a dark, shadowy figure.
I want to ask about
the dark apparition.
Can you point to where it was?
- Absolutely.
Let's walk and see.
That upper area right there.
- Yeah.
- Up in there?
Yep.
We could see in the distance
what looked like a shadow figure
or, you know, a person,
a dark person
standing on the second floor
of this structure,
kind of in the middle,
staring right back at us.
What's really interesting
is that there is no floor there.
And if you saw something
standing in the middle,
that's kind of bizarre.
And you interpreted it
as, basically, human form?
It would have been
pretty tall, though.
Yeah.
Now, while no one on our team
has seen such a distinct
shadowy figure
like what Jay described,
we did have a very similar
experience at Homestead Two
back in 2020.
When my friend
Rabbi Ariel Tzadok
performed
an ancient Hebrew prayer
that was actually designed
for opening
interdimensional portals,
our thermal cameras
captured a temperature vortex
forming near the second floor
of Homestead Two, right where
Jay saw that
shadowy figure appear.
That's that is odd.
Focus on this part right here.
Then,
when Erik reviewed the thermal footage,
he spotted something small
and colder than its surroundings
moving very fast across the road
in front of the homestead.
Ho. Whoa.
What was that?
- Right there, that.
Could this be
the same type of phenomena
that Jay and his
colleagues witnessed here
over ten years ago?
We can't say for sure,
but we do know
more investigation
at Homestead Two
is an absolute must.
Kaleb, you gonna
meet us down the road?
After we visited the last
stop on our ranch tour
with Jay and got the data
for the first part
of the experiment
Jay, I got to tell you,
it has been fantastic
hearing what you've got
to share.
we finished up with him
and had him leave the ranch.
Then we reset the equipment
because we planned to duplicate
the experiment the next day
to collect a new data set.
The investigation continues.
Jay is completely
off the ranch now.
Everything's there, just
like when he was with us,
right?
- Yeah.
Now that we've got the data
from the first part of our
ranch experiment with Jay
We'll see if we see any
changes in the instruments.
we'll drive
the exact same route,
with all the same
equipment as yesterday.
We'll then compare the data sets
and look for any
different measurements.
What's up, dude?
While Erik, Thomas, and I
conducted the second part
of the Jay Stratton experiment,
Dragon and Kaleb
met with Don Mitchell.
Dragon, Kaleb.
He's the local Uinta Basin
Fire Management Officer and Chief
of the Wildlife Division for
the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
We were hoping
that Don might be able
to tell us more
about the burn marks
on the fence post
we found last week.
You go ahead and take
shotgun, Don. It's fine.
But since he is a senior member
of the Eastern Shoshone
tribe, we also wondered
if he could offer any insight
about the recent phenomena
that we've been experiencing
in the south field.
Whoa, what was that
purple light over there?
We were doing some experiments
with rockets, and Thomas saw
a purple light
here in the south field.
What is that?
That led us to
placing game cameras
in these locations,
and as we were
coming into this particular area
to put a game camera up,
we find a burnt post.
What the heck would have
burned this post?
And there just so happens
to also be a deceased deer
in this exact same area.
That one's been
torn apart by something.
We started looking
around a little bit,
and that's where
we found this post.
And you can see right there,
- it's got that little curve in it.
- Okay.
Is there anything in
particular we should look for?
I would look for
any other burnt debris
that might have projected out.
And, Kaleb, there
was no other tracks?
We didn't see
any vehicle tracks,
no human tracks, nothing.
Kind of getting
a-a feeling or a sense
of, kind of, heaviness.
Protecting of
an area is most crucial,
so let's hold here
for just a sec.
I'm just gonna do an offering
of some tobacco
and, just ask the creator,
please watch over us.
As a member of
the Eastern Shoshone tribe,
I do a cultural blessing
and give an offering of tobacco.
It's always best to give
some type of offering, um,
for protection and understanding
before going in
and onto the ground
to investigate.
Okay, Kaleb, Dragon, let's
Let's continue on here.
What is strikingly odd
is this line that
goes up and around,
and where is the rest of it?
Our initial
thought is lightning.
But I'd assume, if we had
a lightning strike here,
we'd see definitely more damage
on the ground.
We would definitely see debris.
As you can see, in the
smoldering phase of this,
that there's no blackening
that comes up around
the post in any direction.
Like, if we put a candle here,
and it started
to smolder right here,
we would get that black
smoke residue of that carbon
on to the post.
So,
if I'm understanding correctly,
based off of what you're saying,
it seems as though it was
something extremely hot
that scorched it but it never
really incinerated, correct?
- Correct.
But I can tell you,
this is not arson,
this is not chemical,
and this, in my opinion,
is not lightning.
So, what is it, then?
That's the million-dollar
question, Dragon.
Have you seen
anything like this before?
I have seen only
man-made of something
of this nature,
'cause of the line,
through plasma cutting.
It's hard to speculate,
but from the different areas of
spontaneous combustion that
I've dealt with in my career,
and in fire investigations,
it was some type
of extreme heat.
A third of that post is missing.
It is very bizarre.
When you kind of look at this,
you see that there's
this curve in that post
that's been taken out.
As if something came through it
and caused this damage,
and, yeah, there's no debris.
So, how hot would it
have to be to just
totally vaporize
- Vaporize it.
You're talking about
780 to 800 degrees.
Right, if there's
that kind of a heat signature,
just the radiated heat
would cause damage
to this green foliage,
and it looks like none of it
has been exposed to
any of the extreme heat.
Correct.
So, we know this is
hot as lightning,
but it's not lightning.
It's not man-made.
- Correct.
- So, what could do that?
I'll only touch on it
just-just briefly
because this is
definitely strange.
Speaking culturally,
it would go back to
what the ranch is named after.
Okay.
- Okay.
I'm sorry,
I don't feel comfortable
- You're fine.
- speaking on that, on that portion.
I don't want to breach
anything that is--
that makes you uncomfortable.
- But we will continue on.
I think it's really valuable
and important that
we have Native Americans
coming to the property
because there is
a lot of history here
and this is
a different viewpoint
that we really
don't get a lot of.
It's just so strange.
Yes.
Some Native Americans
aren't willing to speak
of any kind of relation
when it comes to
Skinwalker Ranch
or anything involving
the word "skinwalker."
Bringing attention to
the skinwalker
is very bad medicine,
and it makes them
very uncomfortable
because they don't
want to draw anything
of that energy into their life.
Don, I can't thank you enough
for coming out here
and lending your
expertise, both from
your professional
side of things,
as well as your
spiritual side of things,
and offering
a blessing of protection.
I felt good,
and hopefully this will
lend us to get more answers.
Yes, you know, 'cause
how do you answer
the unanswerable?
And all we can do is,
as we peel back that veil
and peel that onion a little bit
and move forward.
Thank you, Dragon.
Thank you.
- Thanks, Don.
Hey, Erik,
you got Jay
on the horn yet?
- Yeah, I have him.
The day after we
completed the control run
of our two-part experiment
with Jay Stratton, Erik
and I processed all the data
and immediately arranged
a videoconference
to share the incredible results.
Hey, Jay. How's it going?
Hey, guys. How are you?
All right.
So, in this experiment,
what we did, Jay, is we put
GPS sensors on the Jeep,
we had a magnetic
field meter on there,
and we also had
a Geiger counter in there
that we were data logging
through the entire time
you got in the Jeep
and went on the tour.
And we timed and logged
every step of the way
and everything you did
from the time we left
the command center.
And then, after you
left the ranch,
we did a control run.
And then, when we got back,
Erik took the data,
compiled it all, and then
overlaid the two data sets.
And you would think,
well, you know,
what difference does that make?
Well, we were wondering if,
since you were here
back in the Bigelow era
and you had seen some things
when you were here,
if maybe the ranch would respond
or you would stimulate
a response or something.
So that was the idea
for the experiment.
I'm super excited to hear
if there was a response,
so I think this is
the perfect experiment
to try and see if there's
some type of connection
that ranch or that area makes
with individuals
coming out there.
Well,
with that said, Erik,
what do you think?
Let's show him the data?
Well, I think I should
probably run through
the summary at least.
You know, we have
different kinds of data,
as Travis just took us through.
So, to start with, I want
to look at the GPS trackers.
So, I think what I'd like to do
is a screen share
That'd be great.
and bring up
the control tour that we did.
Are you seeing all that, Jay?
I see at least the, the initial.
Perfect. So, of course,
this follows
all of the roads that we took.
And if you look at that,
it pretty much looks like
exactly what we did.
This was without you
here on the ranch.
You were You had
already gone home.
This is what we
expected to see, so
Absolutely, that
looks complete
completely normal to me.
Okay. Now, I'm going
to bring up the data
generated during your visit.
I've colored it red, of course.
At first glance it,
you know, conforms
to the same path.
Do you notice
anything about the data yet?
Well, it's-it's sparse,
there's a heck of a lot
of missing data points.
That does seem to be the case,
doesn't it?
And at this spot right here,
that's the drill site.
We should be seeing a lot more
- than we're seeing.
- Yeah, you should be.
Yeah, so, um,
I don't know how to,
how to break it to you
except to show you.
But now look where
the data actually is.
The data went way underground.
Wow.
Well, that's amazing.
Literally the only thing
we changed in the experiment
was the occupants of the car.
And the data
goes nuts.
It went way underground.
Wow.
And if you look,
this spot right here,
that's the drill site.
And then, when
you go to the next dip,
that's where you stopped
and said this is the tree
that you saw the thing
standing up at Homestead Two,
and look how the data goes
way deep underground there.
How far is that, Erik?
You know,
if we use the mesa
as our scale reference,
we're looking at
something, like, you know,
a thousand feet.
This is amazing.
The GPS data
from our experiment
with Jay Stratton
is just plain crazy.
It shows that Jay
went underground
just after passing
the mesa drill site.
Then, once he moved
closer to Homestead Two,
it says he went over a thousand
feet below the surface.
And what's really interesting
is the control
is completely different.
Can you overlay 'em?
- I sure can.
So,
if you overlay 'em now and look,
when you go
underneath the ground,
none of the control data
is under the ground,
but look at your path.
We're seeing something
in that area
affecting the equipment,
reacting to my presence
being there.
That's amazing.
What could just you
being in the car
do to a GPS sensor
to make it go haywire?
I mean, when I was first
introduced to the ranch,
folks were referring
to the ranch
as if it's a person, reacting.
Obviously, I was highly
skeptical of any of that.
Yet it's been in my life so long
that I'm comfortable
referring to the ranch
as a as a person now
because I have certainly seen it
react differently
to different people.
So, the question is,
does the ranch somehow,
know you were here?
Was it coupled,
entangled with you?
Right.
This data strongly suggests
that the ranch really
does react to individuals.
But why some more than others?
And why did the GPS sensors
suddenly go underground
just after Jay passed
the mesa drill site?
Could the dome-shaped object
that we drilled up against
deep inside the mesa
somehow be connected
to the GPS data
going a thousand feet
below the surface?
At this point we don't know,
but it seems like more
than just a coincidence.
Jay, this is great.
Really appreciate
you being in our experiment.
Definitely.
See you later, Jay.
Thanks, gents.
Well, the big
question still remains.
How do we get inside the mesa?
It's almost like
we're hitting something
really, really hard.
The last time we drilled
from the bottom of the mesa,
we weren't able to reach
the vertical
and potentially metallic
object inside there.
So now we're gonna brainstorm
a new approach that might work.
We're gonna have to drill
from the top of the mesa.
The one thing we definitely
know is that it won't be easy.
Well, I sure am curious
about whatever it is that we hit
that, number one, was so hard,
number two, didn't produce
any friction against
that-that, drill head,
and, number three, caused
the change in the RF spectrum.
That to me is
three pieces of data
that are really
phenomenal. I mean, why did it
not grind that drill bit down?
- Yes.
- That-that is amazing.
What kind of material
can do that?
So, how could we
look inside the mesa?
I haven't found
a place that we could
easily do that
without completely
scarring it permanently.
You know, Brandon made it
clear he doesn't want that.
Personally, I don't
want to do that.
So I've got
a possible solution.
I wonder if we brought
a portable drill in
and tried to do just
a vertical shaft down
and tried to go down on top
of it, to where we could get
a camera down there.
- Yeah, and we could then maybe
find if that hole is connected
to something somewhere.
So, if we get directly above
the place where
the drill head got stopped,
I'd like to know exactly
what did it
encounter right there,
'cause we know we've got
something really hard there.
I like your idea, Erik, of going
where the drill head stopped,
'cause we know exactly
where that bit was at.
That's a great idea.
We need to do Let's-let's
do that, that's a great idea.
Well, I say we get back
to the command center
and start planning how
we're going to pull this off.
- Yeah.
I'm going to go
check the game cameras.
Sounds like a plan.
After the recent
incident that had Thomas
chasing off after some purple
light in the south field,
we've deployed
these various game cameras.
I've asked Kaleb to go out
and grab the cards from 'em
to see if there's
anything that we see there
that is strange or stands out.
Hey, Bryant.
- Hey, man.
I got those cards
from those cameras.
Yep. Okay, cool.
Let's check it out.
- All right.
This is us
setting it up, looks like.
How long have these
been out there?
- About a week.
Okay.
- About a week now.
This is on the east facing west.
Okay.
I'm not seeing anything
jumping out at me right now.
- No.
I'm surprised we haven't
seen any game of any kind yet.
That's what I'm wondering.
What's setting off the cameras?
Right.
Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Back that up.
- You see that?
Yeah, back that up.
What, what was that?
I'm just running through it
frame by frame.
What?
It's like a silver orb.
Looked like a silver orb
or something.
Well, it was something.
It was really quick.
Do we have the possibility
to, like, pause it
and then like scrub through it?
Yeah.
So this
this is gonna be
frame by frame here.
Didn't you see it? It was like
some little quick flash there.
I saw it over in this area there.
Yeah. - Yeah.
Whoa, right there. Look at that.
So,
depending on how far away that is
Yeah. I mean, if it's
back at the tree line,
that thing's pretty big.
It's massive if
it's at the tree line.
And it's gone.
It's like one frame?
One frame.
What?
And this is like broad daylight.
Yeah.
As you can imagine,
these cameras picked up
all sorts of normal things,
but there was a couple
frames on one of them
that was really strange,
and at first glance it appeared
to be a silver orb-type
shaped object
off in the distance.
I don't know whether
it's exotic or not,
but it's still a concern.
Well, the, the hard thing
is to try and determine
the size of that thing.
Yeah. - I mean, whatever it
is, it's moving fast.
And from here it looks like
it's coming straight in.
Right, if I
Okay, can I
So, if I pause it like this
it makes me think it's big.
What I'd like to do
is get Erik's eyes on it.
You know, he's got
that video software
where he can analyze everything
and track everything.
So we probably need
to get his eyes on this.
Yeah.
Hey, Erik, this is Bryant
and Kaleb at the guard shack.
Do you copy?
So, Kaleb brought me
the memory cards
from those trail cameras that
we have out on the property.
But there's one thing that we'd
like you to get your eyes on.
All right. Thanks, Erik.
- Okay?
- Okay, let's go.
See if we can get
better eyes on 'em.
If this is some sort of orb,
that's interesting.
I think this is definitely
something that Travis and Erik
need to take a look at
and analyze further.
If it's not
and it's a security risk
with someone trying
to damage our assets,
that falls on my plate.
So it's important for us to
get eyes on this immediately.
Hey.
- Hey, guys.
- What's going on, fellas?
Hey. Did you
get that file I sent?
Yeah, I just got that. Um
- Okay.
Curious to see what it is.
- It's going to be over here on this monitor.
- Was it a file?
What'd y'all send? - Yeah,
so just to-to preface what's going on,
um, you know we have those
trail cam or game cameras
in some of the parts
of the property.
We got three just down
there on the south end.
On the south side.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
We go and put
these cameras out there
pretty soon after Thomas
- saw that purple light.
- Yeah.
You know, within a day.
So I just went down there
and grabbed those three cards,
swapped put new ones in,
and we just were
looking at the footage,
and we just found
something that we thought
you guys might want to look at.
- Really?
- Yeah.
Okay, so, guys,
will you remind me
how deep into the interior of
the property this camera
So, this camera
is really inside the property.
It's not on the fence line.
So, for someone to find this,
they have to be
- on the property extensively.
- Okay.
But on the other
side of that is the camera
that's on the other
side of the field
looking at this camera,
it didn't catch anything.
Really?
- Yeah.
- Okay.
Well, you ready
to take a look at it?
Yeah, sure.
All right, here we go.
Go back. Right there. Yo.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Right there.
Holy cow.
Well, it looks like
at least part of
this thing is spherical.
Right.
Is this a one-frame event?
It is.
It's literally one frame.
That's crazy.
So if it's something,
like, really exotic, like,
middle of the day,
an orb like that showing up,
a sphere showing up,
that's crazy.
At first glance, what
I mean, what are your thoughts?
Well, the fact that the shape
of the dark spot is different
and it seems to have expanded
relative to the rest of it
is kind of consistent
with reflections
because it's in
a different place.
Which suggests
that it's metallic
or at least reflective
of some sort.
It does suggest that.
Travis, the first time
I was looking at this,
it makes me think of
the model that you made
of what we were
potentially seeing
with the-the other
orbs during the night.
Yeah, the orange orb
that we saw with the drones.
There is a similarity.
One of the things that
sticks out to me about this,
Kaleb, you're right, is this
dark spot in the front of it.
That orb, that-that orange orb
that we saw that night
clearly had a dark spot
in the middle.
This new metallic-looking UAP
that was spotted
in the south field
does resemble a model I made
of an orange orb that appeared
during an experiment
with a swarm of drones
a few weeks ago.
All right, we have
drones armed, guys.
Look at that.
We got something right there.
Right where, right where?
Yeah, it is.
That's it right there.
It clearly looks like
it's two halves,
and looking at it,
it looks like it actually
has an indention, doesn't it?
There's some dark spot to it.
From modeling that,
I put this together.
And, this is kind of my
idea of what it looks like.
Why don't I bring
that up for comparison?
If you kind of
compare that to that,
- there is a similarity.
- Yeah.
We definitely need
to get to the bottom of this
because that is the direction
that that burnt post is at.
Is something like
that going to generate
the type of heat to do that?
Maybe?
And who's to say what this thing
looks like at night.
I mean,
the interesting thing about
that burnt fence post
is, we found it
after we saw that
bright purple flash
down there in the southern part.
- Yup.
Yeah.
We might have caught something
here in the middle of the day.
Right, which is amazing.
What I find fascinating
about this orb
is, it's there one second
and it's gone so quickly.
It must be moving at
a high rate of speed,
and it just so happens
it's in the same area
where we found this strange
burnt post and a dead deer.
Are they related somehow?
I don't know,
but it's really strange.
I think if this shows
us anything, it's that,
look, we've had quite
a few different incidents
happen down on that
part of the property
in a very short period of time.
I think, if anything,
that shows us
that we need to deploy
some more assets down there
and, instrument that
side of the property out
a little bit better.
And I'll go poke around
out there some more and
see if I can't find anything.
Yeah, we just need
to up the amount of time
we spend there,
at least in the short term.
Given that, I mean,
if this truly is
happening in broad daylight
I mean, that's something,
definitely, we need
to get more eyes on.
And, you know, if it takes it,
we could even just keep a vigil.
Physically go down
there and just watch.
Yeah,
keep an eye on that south field.
I agree. I'm for it.
- Well, thanks, guys.
- Thank you, guys.
Okay, thanks, guys.
- All right.
Well, I'm gonna leave you
with it, Erik.
Interesting find.
We're dealing
with things on a scale
of 512 acres of ranch here.
We have a few known hot spots,
but we have no idea
whether effects such as
we've witnessed here
might play out in other
regions of the property.
Since I've started
working on Skinwalker Ranch,
there has always been this idea
that it responds
to certain individuals.
We still don't know
why, who or how.
As we continue
this investigation,
hopefully we'll learn more
about these strange mysteries.
Never before
have we seen
scientific equipment
and personnel dedicated
to finding the answers.
There isn't another
private piece of property
that has this degree
of scientific research.
We don't know
what lies in store.
We're in uncharted territory.
But I am more willing than ever
to take the risk,
to explore the unknown,
to discover the secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
Erik was telling us that
you got some new equipment
that can help us identify
something underneath the ground.
Multispectral.
There's some interesting stuff.
I've been itching
to show it to you.
By the bait pen,
there are three circles.
So I'll make some arrangements
and we'll get
an excavator out here
and we'll go out and dig.
Whoa. Wait a minute
Hey, guys, y'all
come look at this.
It's hard for me to believe
that's Mother Nature.
sounds like it's hitting
- something hard.
- It could be
maybe a dome.
There is something
in the mesa right there.
Whatever this is
is as tall as the mesa.
Whoa. What was that
purple light over there?
I'm gonna head down.
We need to know if this is
a reaction to that rocket.
- What is that?
Holy crap, it looks
like it's following Thomas.
- Looks like a deer.
- Look at this.
What the heck would
have burned this post?
You know what it looks like?
Like something just flew
right through it.
There is a
ranch in Northern Utah.
It is considered the epicenter
of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
animal mutilations,
bizarre UFO sightings
and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
For 20 years,
the federal government
tried to find answers
and failed.
Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
researchers and experts
has taken over.
They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal
The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
When was the last time
you were at the ranch, Jay?
About 11 years ago.
- 11 years ago.
A lot's changed in 11 years.
I bet a lot has changed.
Over the past couple
of months our team
has experienced more
unexplainable phenomena
on Skinwalker Ranch
than ever before.
So, while we're working
out a new strategy
to determine just what
the two possibly metallic,
dome-shaped and
vertical anomalies
we've discovered
inside the mesa are,
I've decided it's time to
invite a colleague of mine here
who has his own incredible
history with the ranch--
Jay Stratton.
The first time
you came out here,
you were probably pretty
skeptical, as I was.
I was 100% skeptical.
- Me, too, man.
I didn't believe none of it.
Jay was not only
a career defense
intelligence official
for the federal government,
but he was also my former boss
in the Unidentified
Aerial Phenomena Task Force.
And, between 2007 and 2011,
he helped create and run
a government program
with former Skinwalker Ranch
owner Robert Bigelow
to investigate
the bizarre phenomena
happening on the property.
So I came out 100% skeptical,
with the stories in mind,
but-but wanting to see
something for myself,
and the ranch didn't disappoint.
Right.
I started working
this topic in 2005.
And I came into the topic
because it was part of my job.
As the Chief of Air
and Space Warfare
at the Defense
Intelligence Agency,
I was dealing with
threats to U.S. platforms
from foreign adversaries,
highly technical capabilities.
I fell into a point where I had
to get really smart on UFOs,
and there was nobody to turn to.
So I kind of became that guy,
not by design, not-not
something I was looking for.
I've briefed and provided
written assessments
all the way
to the highest levels
of the executive branch
and the legislative branch.
I like to think
I've got a little bit
of credibility on this topic.
2007, we built this
contractual relationship
with Mr. Robert Bigelow,
and the ranch
became a contracted
Defense Intelligence Agency
observation point.
And I came out here to see
things firsthand in 2009.
Over those years, I've seen
a lot of things I can't explain.
And I'm out here again
to do this research
and hopefully better
understand this phenomena.
It did take a lot of thought
and discussion with the family
if I would do this again,
just because of all the activity
and everything else
that's out here, you know?
Right.
- There's-there's a risk,
but to me
the investigation
is more important
and too important,
so I really want to
continue down that path
of trying to get answers.
There is an accepted risk
in coming out here.
You know, no one knows
what could happen.
We're about to move into
- the ranch property here.
- All right.
This sounds crazy, but the ranch
reacts differently to me
than it does others.
Some people have a lot
of reaction out here
and some have none.
I really had to consider that
and talk to my wife
and talk to my kids.
You know, I feel the same.
I think that there's
a moral imperative to this.
I think this is
extremely important and could be
one of the most important things
in human history.
Absolutely.
The ranch itself has been
a big part of my life.
It's because of the ranch
that Travis and I came together
in a small room in the Pentagon
to talk about the phenomenon,
and we really accomplished
a lot in a short period of time.
We see each other
as-as valued teammates.
We enjoy working together.
We think we can do some
really good things together.
All right,
so we're going to get out
and we'll take you in
and show you the command center.
- Cool.
I want you all
to meet Jay Stratton.
- Good to meet you.
- Welcome back.
So, I've told them all about
you, of course.
So, what I'd like to hear
is what events happened
when you were here
that you can describe in
as much detail as you can,
so we can determine
if we've seen similar events.
Absolutely.
And have similar data that
compares to what you've seen.
So, when I came out here,
the first-first trip
out here, I was standing out,
kind of in the triangle area,
was just randomly taking
photographs and things.
Lo and behold, right over
the mesa, there was
an aircraft, craft or whatever
you want to call it.
UAP, now I would say,
which I-I coined that term.
What? You gave us that term.
So, I created "UAP." - Yes,
you can blame Jay for that, right?
- I didn't know that.
- Because I needed to
get people away from "UFO"
because of the connotations
of little green men.
So, you know, standing
there, looking up,
and over the mesa
was this dart-like craft,
I call it like
a really tight triangle,
kind of, kind of coming in.
He was level the whole time,
and shot across,
and I lost track of it.
During our investigation
here on Skinwalker Ranch,
we've seen a number
of UAPs appear
and disappear in the skies
over the property.
But two years ago,
we saw one right above the mesa
that sounds a lot like
what Jay witnessed.
Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait.
What is that right there?
Right Yeah.
- You seeing that?
- Yes, yeah.
- Back up a couple frames.
- All right.
You guys see?
Look. Right here. See this?
- What is that?
- I don't know yet.
It appears there and then right
there, right above the mesa.
Right above the mesa.
Could we be seeing
the same kind of
phenomena that Jay
and members of the Bigelow
team experienced back in 2009?
The similarities are striking.
And another example,
I think it was around 11:30
at night. As we were out
on that back deck one time,
I think there were four of us,
playing with a laser
and doing other things.
You know it was late and,
we observed a light on the mesa,
with none of us doing anything.
It was about the same spot
where we had the laser.
And I don't remember
exactly who saw what,
but one of us saw a circle,
one saw a triangle,
one saw a square, you know.
You're seeing different shapes.
There may be
a physiological explanation
for that, I don't know,
but we all saw
distinctly different shapes
of that same light.
It's like it's
giving a demonstration
for each one of us separately.
Since I joined
this investigation,
the mesa has been
a major hot spot
of unexplainable phenomena.
For example, back in 2018
Erik Bard captured
surveillance footage
of some very bizarre lights
moving across the mesa,
and even a beam of light
emitting from it.
Again, I think it was
around 11:30 at night,
and three of us were
walking down a path
joking with each other.
All of a sudden, we got quiet,
and that's because
we got to a point,
and we could feel
the temperature change.
And as we moved forward
to Homestead Two,
it got colder and colder.
There was a tree
probably 300 yards or so
shy of the Homestead Two.
The moon was real bright
and it was shining,
it cast a shadow
across that tree,
drawing a line on the road.
Now, one of my
teammates was saying
that we can't cross that line.
And we all had
the attitude, you know,
"Screw that,
we're going." Right?
We could not cross that line
no matter how hard we tried.
First thing we felt was fear,
and one of my teammates
looked up and he saw a dark mass
in the top of Homestead Two,
like a shadow figure or
something looking back at us.
And basically, that was
We felt like
whatever was going on down
there, we wanted to see it,
you know, we wanted to be there.
There is so much in
this story. I have heard
a version of this
story for years.
I didn't know, I couldn't know,
that it was you.
- It was, yeah.
One thing I've got to tell you,
just, for academic
honesty and ethics,
is that,
we're going to use you today
as part of an experiment.
But I'm not going to
tell you what that experiment is
until afterwards 'cause
I don't want to taint
the outcome of the experiment.
Right.
I've worked with Jay
for several years now,
and I've heard him say
many times how he
strongly believes
Skinwalker Ranch seemed
to react to his presence.
When I first came here,
Thomas Winterton
also told me he believed
the property reacted
more to certain
people than others.
So that gave Erik and I an idea
to see if we could
actually prove it.
The word "bait" comes to mind.
You won't be in any danger.
We're not making you
You're not shark bait
or anything like that, right?
No, I trust you guys. Yeah.
Well, I appreciate that.
So, we're gonna go on a tour
of the ranch in a little bit,
and you tell us about
the things you'd seen
and so on, and we'll be
taking data while
we're doing that.
And then, afterwards,
we'll tell you
what type of data
and that sort of thing.
Okay, yeah.
Erik and I have come up
with an experiment to test
if the ranch reacts to Jay
being back here after 11 years.
And if his presence does
stimulate phenomena to occur,
can we identify what it is?
That's what
we'd like to find out.
Again, the investigation's
important.
Obviously it makes
a lot of sense for us
to study very carefully
anything that our
instruments can detect
as we bring Jay
onto the property
and take him to certain
points of interest
from his experience,
as well as to determine
whether the ranch
would respond to
the novelty of his presence.
Well, I really like this plan.
You know, we've got a course
laid out for ourselves.
We've got some instruments
that we want to take with us,
so we should go get
the instruments prepared
and, we'll head out.
All right,
we'll meet you at the vehicles.
I figured
we could put it on the hood.
Here, I've got
I've got some foam.
Yeah, we don't want
to scratch it.
It's a common theory
that Skinwalker Ranch
responds to the presence
of certain people.
So we're going to drive
former ranch investigator
Jay Stratton
around to the hot spots
where he experienced
really bizarre phenomena
when he was a part of
the Bigelow investigation
more than a decade ago.
We'll see if him coming
back to the property
causes strange things to happen.
That ain't going anywhere.
- That's good, yeah.
So, I've got both of these
GPS trackers running
and data logging.
Okay. All right.
- We should be good to go, guys.
Erik has outfitted the Jeep
with GPS sensors,
gamma ray detectors,
and the spectrum analyzer
so we can continuously scan
for strange energy spikes
and pinpoint the locations
where anything
out of the ordinary might occur.
I'll go jump in the black.
All right, you gonna follow behind?
- Yep.
After our tour with Jay,
we'll duplicate the exact route
without him on the property.
That will allow us to compare
the collected data sets
to see if there really is
a measurable difference
between the two.
- You all in?
- You are cleared for take-off.
We'll start the tour
in the eastern portion
of the ranch.
From there we'll
head to the triangle,
travel west past
the mesa drill site,
and then on to Homestead Two.
If you see something
you want to tell us about
or ask us questions about,
just say something
and we'll stop
and we'll do that.
I want to know
exactly where you were at
with that apparition
or whatever it was.
Yeah, me, too.
All right, Jay,
now when we get to where
- Yeah.
you think it's the spot,
you just stop us.
I'm pretty sure it
was that tree right there.
You want to stop here?
- Yeah, I mean,
this is about the right spot.
All right.
So, you think it's this way?
- Yep.
No, I think we're
right at about the spot
where we started
to feel the fear.
Right in here?
- Yeah.
Where do you think the line was
in the road
- It was at that tree.
That tree?
- Yep.
I'm pretty sure that's the tree.
The first night
we were on the ranch,
it was about 11:30 at night,
and myself and my two
teammates went for a walk.
So, we walked down the road,
made our way around the curve
towards Homestead Two.
And as we made that turn,
there's a little tree
casting a shadow,
a line across the road,
and as we pushed
towards that line,
I said, "Do you guys feel that?"
And immediately
one of my teammates said,
"Yeah, the hair's standing up
on the back of my neck."
Feeling the fear
about right here,
and the temperature inversion
was about right here, too.
Really?
As we walk closer
to Homestead Two,
we felt a drastic drop
in temperature.
And it was a wall.
You could put
your arm through it,
and you could feel
the cold versus the heat.
It was a drastic drop,
something that
just didn't belong.
As soon as we come
around the corner,
the feeling was,
"Turn around, go back."
On the second floor
of Homestead Two,
through the night vision device,
we saw what resembled
a dark, shadowy figure.
I want to ask about
the dark apparition.
Can you point to where it was?
- Absolutely.
Let's walk and see.
That upper area right there.
- Yeah.
- Up in there?
Yep.
We could see in the distance
what looked like a shadow figure
or, you know, a person,
a dark person
standing on the second floor
of this structure,
kind of in the middle,
staring right back at us.
What's really interesting
is that there is no floor there.
And if you saw something
standing in the middle,
that's kind of bizarre.
And you interpreted it
as, basically, human form?
It would have been
pretty tall, though.
Yeah.
Now, while no one on our team
has seen such a distinct
shadowy figure
like what Jay described,
we did have a very similar
experience at Homestead Two
back in 2020.
When my friend
Rabbi Ariel Tzadok
performed
an ancient Hebrew prayer
that was actually designed
for opening
interdimensional portals,
our thermal cameras
captured a temperature vortex
forming near the second floor
of Homestead Two, right where
Jay saw that
shadowy figure appear.
That's that is odd.
Focus on this part right here.
Then,
when Erik reviewed the thermal footage,
he spotted something small
and colder than its surroundings
moving very fast across the road
in front of the homestead.
Ho. Whoa.
What was that?
- Right there, that.
Could this be
the same type of phenomena
that Jay and his
colleagues witnessed here
over ten years ago?
We can't say for sure,
but we do know
more investigation
at Homestead Two
is an absolute must.
Kaleb, you gonna
meet us down the road?
After we visited the last
stop on our ranch tour
with Jay and got the data
for the first part
of the experiment
Jay, I got to tell you,
it has been fantastic
hearing what you've got
to share.
we finished up with him
and had him leave the ranch.
Then we reset the equipment
because we planned to duplicate
the experiment the next day
to collect a new data set.
The investigation continues.
Jay is completely
off the ranch now.
Everything's there, just
like when he was with us,
right?
- Yeah.
Now that we've got the data
from the first part of our
ranch experiment with Jay
We'll see if we see any
changes in the instruments.
we'll drive
the exact same route,
with all the same
equipment as yesterday.
We'll then compare the data sets
and look for any
different measurements.
What's up, dude?
While Erik, Thomas, and I
conducted the second part
of the Jay Stratton experiment,
Dragon and Kaleb
met with Don Mitchell.
Dragon, Kaleb.
He's the local Uinta Basin
Fire Management Officer and Chief
of the Wildlife Division for
the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
We were hoping
that Don might be able
to tell us more
about the burn marks
on the fence post
we found last week.
You go ahead and take
shotgun, Don. It's fine.
But since he is a senior member
of the Eastern Shoshone
tribe, we also wondered
if he could offer any insight
about the recent phenomena
that we've been experiencing
in the south field.
Whoa, what was that
purple light over there?
We were doing some experiments
with rockets, and Thomas saw
a purple light
here in the south field.
What is that?
That led us to
placing game cameras
in these locations,
and as we were
coming into this particular area
to put a game camera up,
we find a burnt post.
What the heck would have
burned this post?
And there just so happens
to also be a deceased deer
in this exact same area.
That one's been
torn apart by something.
We started looking
around a little bit,
and that's where
we found this post.
And you can see right there,
- it's got that little curve in it.
- Okay.
Is there anything in
particular we should look for?
I would look for
any other burnt debris
that might have projected out.
And, Kaleb, there
was no other tracks?
We didn't see
any vehicle tracks,
no human tracks, nothing.
Kind of getting
a-a feeling or a sense
of, kind of, heaviness.
Protecting of
an area is most crucial,
so let's hold here
for just a sec.
I'm just gonna do an offering
of some tobacco
and, just ask the creator,
please watch over us.
As a member of
the Eastern Shoshone tribe,
I do a cultural blessing
and give an offering of tobacco.
It's always best to give
some type of offering, um,
for protection and understanding
before going in
and onto the ground
to investigate.
Okay, Kaleb, Dragon, let's
Let's continue on here.
What is strikingly odd
is this line that
goes up and around,
and where is the rest of it?
Our initial
thought is lightning.
But I'd assume, if we had
a lightning strike here,
we'd see definitely more damage
on the ground.
We would definitely see debris.
As you can see, in the
smoldering phase of this,
that there's no blackening
that comes up around
the post in any direction.
Like, if we put a candle here,
and it started
to smolder right here,
we would get that black
smoke residue of that carbon
on to the post.
So,
if I'm understanding correctly,
based off of what you're saying,
it seems as though it was
something extremely hot
that scorched it but it never
really incinerated, correct?
- Correct.
But I can tell you,
this is not arson,
this is not chemical,
and this, in my opinion,
is not lightning.
So, what is it, then?
That's the million-dollar
question, Dragon.
Have you seen
anything like this before?
I have seen only
man-made of something
of this nature,
'cause of the line,
through plasma cutting.
It's hard to speculate,
but from the different areas of
spontaneous combustion that
I've dealt with in my career,
and in fire investigations,
it was some type
of extreme heat.
A third of that post is missing.
It is very bizarre.
When you kind of look at this,
you see that there's
this curve in that post
that's been taken out.
As if something came through it
and caused this damage,
and, yeah, there's no debris.
So, how hot would it
have to be to just
totally vaporize
- Vaporize it.
You're talking about
780 to 800 degrees.
Right, if there's
that kind of a heat signature,
just the radiated heat
would cause damage
to this green foliage,
and it looks like none of it
has been exposed to
any of the extreme heat.
Correct.
So, we know this is
hot as lightning,
but it's not lightning.
It's not man-made.
- Correct.
- So, what could do that?
I'll only touch on it
just-just briefly
because this is
definitely strange.
Speaking culturally,
it would go back to
what the ranch is named after.
Okay.
- Okay.
I'm sorry,
I don't feel comfortable
- You're fine.
- speaking on that, on that portion.
I don't want to breach
anything that is--
that makes you uncomfortable.
- But we will continue on.
I think it's really valuable
and important that
we have Native Americans
coming to the property
because there is
a lot of history here
and this is
a different viewpoint
that we really
don't get a lot of.
It's just so strange.
Yes.
Some Native Americans
aren't willing to speak
of any kind of relation
when it comes to
Skinwalker Ranch
or anything involving
the word "skinwalker."
Bringing attention to
the skinwalker
is very bad medicine,
and it makes them
very uncomfortable
because they don't
want to draw anything
of that energy into their life.
Don, I can't thank you enough
for coming out here
and lending your
expertise, both from
your professional
side of things,
as well as your
spiritual side of things,
and offering
a blessing of protection.
I felt good,
and hopefully this will
lend us to get more answers.
Yes, you know, 'cause
how do you answer
the unanswerable?
And all we can do is,
as we peel back that veil
and peel that onion a little bit
and move forward.
Thank you, Dragon.
Thank you.
- Thanks, Don.
Hey, Erik,
you got Jay
on the horn yet?
- Yeah, I have him.
The day after we
completed the control run
of our two-part experiment
with Jay Stratton, Erik
and I processed all the data
and immediately arranged
a videoconference
to share the incredible results.
Hey, Jay. How's it going?
Hey, guys. How are you?
All right.
So, in this experiment,
what we did, Jay, is we put
GPS sensors on the Jeep,
we had a magnetic
field meter on there,
and we also had
a Geiger counter in there
that we were data logging
through the entire time
you got in the Jeep
and went on the tour.
And we timed and logged
every step of the way
and everything you did
from the time we left
the command center.
And then, after you
left the ranch,
we did a control run.
And then, when we got back,
Erik took the data,
compiled it all, and then
overlaid the two data sets.
And you would think,
well, you know,
what difference does that make?
Well, we were wondering if,
since you were here
back in the Bigelow era
and you had seen some things
when you were here,
if maybe the ranch would respond
or you would stimulate
a response or something.
So that was the idea
for the experiment.
I'm super excited to hear
if there was a response,
so I think this is
the perfect experiment
to try and see if there's
some type of connection
that ranch or that area makes
with individuals
coming out there.
Well,
with that said, Erik,
what do you think?
Let's show him the data?
Well, I think I should
probably run through
the summary at least.
You know, we have
different kinds of data,
as Travis just took us through.
So, to start with, I want
to look at the GPS trackers.
So, I think what I'd like to do
is a screen share
That'd be great.
and bring up
the control tour that we did.
Are you seeing all that, Jay?
I see at least the, the initial.
Perfect. So, of course,
this follows
all of the roads that we took.
And if you look at that,
it pretty much looks like
exactly what we did.
This was without you
here on the ranch.
You were You had
already gone home.
This is what we
expected to see, so
Absolutely, that
looks complete
completely normal to me.
Okay. Now, I'm going
to bring up the data
generated during your visit.
I've colored it red, of course.
At first glance it,
you know, conforms
to the same path.
Do you notice
anything about the data yet?
Well, it's-it's sparse,
there's a heck of a lot
of missing data points.
That does seem to be the case,
doesn't it?
And at this spot right here,
that's the drill site.
We should be seeing a lot more
- than we're seeing.
- Yeah, you should be.
Yeah, so, um,
I don't know how to,
how to break it to you
except to show you.
But now look where
the data actually is.
The data went way underground.
Wow.
Well, that's amazing.
Literally the only thing
we changed in the experiment
was the occupants of the car.
And the data
goes nuts.
It went way underground.
Wow.
And if you look,
this spot right here,
that's the drill site.
And then, when
you go to the next dip,
that's where you stopped
and said this is the tree
that you saw the thing
standing up at Homestead Two,
and look how the data goes
way deep underground there.
How far is that, Erik?
You know,
if we use the mesa
as our scale reference,
we're looking at
something, like, you know,
a thousand feet.
This is amazing.
The GPS data
from our experiment
with Jay Stratton
is just plain crazy.
It shows that Jay
went underground
just after passing
the mesa drill site.
Then, once he moved
closer to Homestead Two,
it says he went over a thousand
feet below the surface.
And what's really interesting
is the control
is completely different.
Can you overlay 'em?
- I sure can.
So,
if you overlay 'em now and look,
when you go
underneath the ground,
none of the control data
is under the ground,
but look at your path.
We're seeing something
in that area
affecting the equipment,
reacting to my presence
being there.
That's amazing.
What could just you
being in the car
do to a GPS sensor
to make it go haywire?
I mean, when I was first
introduced to the ranch,
folks were referring
to the ranch
as if it's a person, reacting.
Obviously, I was highly
skeptical of any of that.
Yet it's been in my life so long
that I'm comfortable
referring to the ranch
as a as a person now
because I have certainly seen it
react differently
to different people.
So, the question is,
does the ranch somehow,
know you were here?
Was it coupled,
entangled with you?
Right.
This data strongly suggests
that the ranch really
does react to individuals.
But why some more than others?
And why did the GPS sensors
suddenly go underground
just after Jay passed
the mesa drill site?
Could the dome-shaped object
that we drilled up against
deep inside the mesa
somehow be connected
to the GPS data
going a thousand feet
below the surface?
At this point we don't know,
but it seems like more
than just a coincidence.
Jay, this is great.
Really appreciate
you being in our experiment.
Definitely.
See you later, Jay.
Thanks, gents.
Well, the big
question still remains.
How do we get inside the mesa?
It's almost like
we're hitting something
really, really hard.
The last time we drilled
from the bottom of the mesa,
we weren't able to reach
the vertical
and potentially metallic
object inside there.
So now we're gonna brainstorm
a new approach that might work.
We're gonna have to drill
from the top of the mesa.
The one thing we definitely
know is that it won't be easy.
Well, I sure am curious
about whatever it is that we hit
that, number one, was so hard,
number two, didn't produce
any friction against
that-that, drill head,
and, number three, caused
the change in the RF spectrum.
That to me is
three pieces of data
that are really
phenomenal. I mean, why did it
not grind that drill bit down?
- Yes.
- That-that is amazing.
What kind of material
can do that?
So, how could we
look inside the mesa?
I haven't found
a place that we could
easily do that
without completely
scarring it permanently.
You know, Brandon made it
clear he doesn't want that.
Personally, I don't
want to do that.
So I've got
a possible solution.
I wonder if we brought
a portable drill in
and tried to do just
a vertical shaft down
and tried to go down on top
of it, to where we could get
a camera down there.
- Yeah, and we could then maybe
find if that hole is connected
to something somewhere.
So, if we get directly above
the place where
the drill head got stopped,
I'd like to know exactly
what did it
encounter right there,
'cause we know we've got
something really hard there.
I like your idea, Erik, of going
where the drill head stopped,
'cause we know exactly
where that bit was at.
That's a great idea.
We need to do Let's-let's
do that, that's a great idea.
Well, I say we get back
to the command center
and start planning how
we're going to pull this off.
- Yeah.
I'm going to go
check the game cameras.
Sounds like a plan.
After the recent
incident that had Thomas
chasing off after some purple
light in the south field,
we've deployed
these various game cameras.
I've asked Kaleb to go out
and grab the cards from 'em
to see if there's
anything that we see there
that is strange or stands out.
Hey, Bryant.
- Hey, man.
I got those cards
from those cameras.
Yep. Okay, cool.
Let's check it out.
- All right.
This is us
setting it up, looks like.
How long have these
been out there?
- About a week.
Okay.
- About a week now.
This is on the east facing west.
Okay.
I'm not seeing anything
jumping out at me right now.
- No.
I'm surprised we haven't
seen any game of any kind yet.
That's what I'm wondering.
What's setting off the cameras?
Right.
Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Back that up.
- You see that?
Yeah, back that up.
What, what was that?
I'm just running through it
frame by frame.
What?
It's like a silver orb.
Looked like a silver orb
or something.
Well, it was something.
It was really quick.
Do we have the possibility
to, like, pause it
and then like scrub through it?
Yeah.
So this
this is gonna be
frame by frame here.
Didn't you see it? It was like
some little quick flash there.
I saw it over in this area there.
Yeah. - Yeah.
Whoa, right there. Look at that.
So,
depending on how far away that is
Yeah. I mean, if it's
back at the tree line,
that thing's pretty big.
It's massive if
it's at the tree line.
And it's gone.
It's like one frame?
One frame.
What?
And this is like broad daylight.
Yeah.
As you can imagine,
these cameras picked up
all sorts of normal things,
but there was a couple
frames on one of them
that was really strange,
and at first glance it appeared
to be a silver orb-type
shaped object
off in the distance.
I don't know whether
it's exotic or not,
but it's still a concern.
Well, the, the hard thing
is to try and determine
the size of that thing.
Yeah. - I mean, whatever it
is, it's moving fast.
And from here it looks like
it's coming straight in.
Right, if I
Okay, can I
So, if I pause it like this
it makes me think it's big.
What I'd like to do
is get Erik's eyes on it.
You know, he's got
that video software
where he can analyze everything
and track everything.
So we probably need
to get his eyes on this.
Yeah.
Hey, Erik, this is Bryant
and Kaleb at the guard shack.
Do you copy?
So, Kaleb brought me
the memory cards
from those trail cameras that
we have out on the property.
But there's one thing that we'd
like you to get your eyes on.
All right. Thanks, Erik.
- Okay?
- Okay, let's go.
See if we can get
better eyes on 'em.
If this is some sort of orb,
that's interesting.
I think this is definitely
something that Travis and Erik
need to take a look at
and analyze further.
If it's not
and it's a security risk
with someone trying
to damage our assets,
that falls on my plate.
So it's important for us to
get eyes on this immediately.
Hey.
- Hey, guys.
- What's going on, fellas?
Hey. Did you
get that file I sent?
Yeah, I just got that. Um
- Okay.
Curious to see what it is.
- It's going to be over here on this monitor.
- Was it a file?
What'd y'all send? - Yeah,
so just to-to preface what's going on,
um, you know we have those
trail cam or game cameras
in some of the parts
of the property.
We got three just down
there on the south end.
On the south side.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
We go and put
these cameras out there
pretty soon after Thomas
- saw that purple light.
- Yeah.
You know, within a day.
So I just went down there
and grabbed those three cards,
swapped put new ones in,
and we just were
looking at the footage,
and we just found
something that we thought
you guys might want to look at.
- Really?
- Yeah.
Okay, so, guys,
will you remind me
how deep into the interior of
the property this camera
So, this camera
is really inside the property.
It's not on the fence line.
So, for someone to find this,
they have to be
- on the property extensively.
- Okay.
But on the other
side of that is the camera
that's on the other
side of the field
looking at this camera,
it didn't catch anything.
Really?
- Yeah.
- Okay.
Well, you ready
to take a look at it?
Yeah, sure.
All right, here we go.
Go back. Right there. Yo.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Right there.
Holy cow.
Well, it looks like
at least part of
this thing is spherical.
Right.
Is this a one-frame event?
It is.
It's literally one frame.
That's crazy.
So if it's something,
like, really exotic, like,
middle of the day,
an orb like that showing up,
a sphere showing up,
that's crazy.
At first glance, what
I mean, what are your thoughts?
Well, the fact that the shape
of the dark spot is different
and it seems to have expanded
relative to the rest of it
is kind of consistent
with reflections
because it's in
a different place.
Which suggests
that it's metallic
or at least reflective
of some sort.
It does suggest that.
Travis, the first time
I was looking at this,
it makes me think of
the model that you made
of what we were
potentially seeing
with the-the other
orbs during the night.
Yeah, the orange orb
that we saw with the drones.
There is a similarity.
One of the things that
sticks out to me about this,
Kaleb, you're right, is this
dark spot in the front of it.
That orb, that-that orange orb
that we saw that night
clearly had a dark spot
in the middle.
This new metallic-looking UAP
that was spotted
in the south field
does resemble a model I made
of an orange orb that appeared
during an experiment
with a swarm of drones
a few weeks ago.
All right, we have
drones armed, guys.
Look at that.
We got something right there.
Right where, right where?
Yeah, it is.
That's it right there.
It clearly looks like
it's two halves,
and looking at it,
it looks like it actually
has an indention, doesn't it?
There's some dark spot to it.
From modeling that,
I put this together.
And, this is kind of my
idea of what it looks like.
Why don't I bring
that up for comparison?
If you kind of
compare that to that,
- there is a similarity.
- Yeah.
We definitely need
to get to the bottom of this
because that is the direction
that that burnt post is at.
Is something like
that going to generate
the type of heat to do that?
Maybe?
And who's to say what this thing
looks like at night.
I mean,
the interesting thing about
that burnt fence post
is, we found it
after we saw that
bright purple flash
down there in the southern part.
- Yup.
Yeah.
We might have caught something
here in the middle of the day.
Right, which is amazing.
What I find fascinating
about this orb
is, it's there one second
and it's gone so quickly.
It must be moving at
a high rate of speed,
and it just so happens
it's in the same area
where we found this strange
burnt post and a dead deer.
Are they related somehow?
I don't know,
but it's really strange.
I think if this shows
us anything, it's that,
look, we've had quite
a few different incidents
happen down on that
part of the property
in a very short period of time.
I think, if anything,
that shows us
that we need to deploy
some more assets down there
and, instrument that
side of the property out
a little bit better.
And I'll go poke around
out there some more and
see if I can't find anything.
Yeah, we just need
to up the amount of time
we spend there,
at least in the short term.
Given that, I mean,
if this truly is
happening in broad daylight
I mean, that's something,
definitely, we need
to get more eyes on.
And, you know, if it takes it,
we could even just keep a vigil.
Physically go down
there and just watch.
Yeah,
keep an eye on that south field.
I agree. I'm for it.
- Well, thanks, guys.
- Thank you, guys.
Okay, thanks, guys.
- All right.
Well, I'm gonna leave you
with it, Erik.
Interesting find.
We're dealing
with things on a scale
of 512 acres of ranch here.
We have a few known hot spots,
but we have no idea
whether effects such as
we've witnessed here
might play out in other
regions of the property.
Since I've started
working on Skinwalker Ranch,
there has always been this idea
that it responds
to certain individuals.
We still don't know
why, who or how.
As we continue
this investigation,
hopefully we'll learn more
about these strange mysteries.
Never before
have we seen
scientific equipment
and personnel dedicated
to finding the answers.
There isn't another
private piece of property
that has this degree
of scientific research.
We don't know
what lies in store.
We're in uncharted territory.
But I am more willing than ever
to take the risk,
to explore the unknown,
to discover the secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
Erik was telling us that
you got some new equipment
that can help us identify
something underneath the ground.
Multispectral.
There's some interesting stuff.
I've been itching
to show it to you.
By the bait pen,
there are three circles.
So I'll make some arrangements
and we'll get
an excavator out here
and we'll go out and dig.
Whoa. Wait a minute
Hey, guys, y'all
come look at this.
It's hard for me to believe
that's Mother Nature.