My Ghost Story (2010) s05e06 Episode Script

Paoli: AS SOON AS I SAID, "HEY, WALT, THE CAMERA FELL.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT IT COULD HAVE FELL.
IT WAS IN A VISE GRIP.
Pucillo: I SAW THIS HUGE ORB GOING ACROSS THE SCREEN.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT I JUST CAUGHT THIS.
Mulcahy: I BELIEVE IT'S A PARTIAL MANIFESTATION OF SPIRITS.
Winn: HE LOOKED AT ME WITH SUCH HATRED AND ANGER.
Faudree: I DEFINITELY THINK SOMETHING WAS TRYING TO ENTER HIM.
I THINK SOMETHING WAS TRYING TO TAKE HIM OVER.
Dvorak: IT WAS SOME SOR OF A LIGHT ANOMALY.
IT LIGHTS UP, IT FLICKERS A LITTLE, AND IT GOES RIGHT BACK OUT.
Nickerson: IT PUT SHIVERS IN MY SPINE.
Dedman: I GOT A BURNING SENSATION ON MY BACK, LIKE HOT COAL-IRONS BURNING INTO MY FLESH.
I KNEW THAT I HAD BEEN ATTACKED BY SOMETHING.
Sanford: YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER TO STAY OR RUN.
YOU JUST DIDN'T KNOW.
Szabo: HE HAD TAKEN A CUE BALL WITH A SOCK AND BEAT HIS WIFE TO DEATH.
THE SPIRITS WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW THEY WERE THERE.
[ BIRDS CHIRPING .]
MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I BOUGHT THE ANTLERS RESTAURAN IN SAULT SAINTE MARIE, MICHIGAN.
I'M THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE ANTLERS RESTAURANT.
MY WIFE AND I PURCHASED THE ANTLERS AFTER THE PREVIOUS OWNER, WALT KENNEY JR.
, PASSED AWAY.
THERE WAS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES BETWEEN HIS LIFE AND MY OWN.
WE HAD MOVED INTO HIS HOUSE.
WE WERE RUNNING HIS RESTAURANT.
WALT KENNEY JR.
WAS THE ONE THAT, BASICALLY, POURED HIS SOUL INTO THE PLACE AND MADE IT WHAT IT IS TODAY.
Paoli: I'M ACTUALLY A SOUS CHEF.
I'VE WORKED THERE SINCE I WAS 14 YEARS OLD.
WALT WAS A REALLY GOOD GUY.
HE HELPED ME OU IN A LOT OF SITUATIONS.
HE DEFINITELY WAS A PERSON THAT LOOKED OUT FOR ME.
I ALMOST LOOKED AT HIM AS A FATHER FIGURE.
ONE DAY, HE CALLED ME.
IT WAS PROBABLY 8:30 IN THE MORNING.
I SAID, "NO, I CAN'T COME INTO WORK.
I'M SICK.
" AND THE NEXT DAY, HE PASSED.
IT WAS EMOTIONAL FOR ME.
Szabo: THE ANTLERS RESTAURANT -- IT'S AN OLD BUILDING -- WELL OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
IT'S NOT REAL WELL-LIT.
Paoli: WHEN I COME IN THERE ALONE, IT'LL FEEL LIKE SOMEONE'S WATCHING ME.
IT'S JUST KIND OF A HAIR-ON-THE-BACK-OF-YOUR-NECK FEELING THAT SOMEONE'S THERE WITH YOU.
VERY FIRST EXPERIENCE -- I WAS IN THE WALK-IN COOLER.
I WAS PUTTING SOME INVENTORY AWAY, AND I GOT A TAP ON THE SHOULDER.
I LOOKED AROUND AND I WAS LIKE, "HELLO? IS ANYBODY HERE WITH ME?" I KEPT ON GOING BACK IN MY MIND.
"OKAY.
WAS SOMEONE IN THERE? DID I BUMP INTO SOMETHING?" I KEPT ON TRYING TO DEBUNK IT MYSELF, AND THERE WAS JUST NO ONE THERE.
IT WAS LITERALLY JUST GOOSE BUMPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THAT SCARED ME.
Szabo: TO BE HONEST, I WAS A NON-BELIEVER, AT THAT POINT, AND THEN THINGS STARTED TO HAPPEN TO ME, SPECIFICALLY.
WE HAVE A REALLY OLD PHONE SYSTEM THAT HAS SEVERAL LINES ON IT.
WALT KENNEY JR.
IS STILL ON THE PHONE SYSTEM IN THE LINES.
THE ACTUAL BUILDING WHERE HIS OFFICE WAS IS GONE NOW.
HIS PHONE LINE LIGHTS UP ON A REGULAR BASIS.
I BELIEVE THE SPIRIT OF WAL IS ON THE LINE.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT HE'S TRYING TO CONTACT SOMEBODY.
ONE OF THE ONLY WAYS HE'S ABLE TO DO I IS TO LIGHT UP HIS PHONE LINE.
I THINK THERE ARE TWO MAIN SPIRITS IN THE BUILDING.
I THINK ONE OF THEM IS WALT.
THE OTHER MAIN SPIRI THAT'S IN THE BUILDING IS THE MAINTENANCE MAN, JOHN HICKMAN.
JOHN HICKMAN WAS A MAINTENANCE MAN FOR A LONG TIME AT THE ANTLERS RESTAURANT.
THE STORY GOES THAT, ONE DAY HE DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR WORK.
NOBODY KNEW WHERE HE WAS.
NOBODY COULD FIND HIM.
CONSEQUENTLY, HE HAD TAKEN A CUE BALL WITH A SOCK AND BEAT HIS WIFE TO DEATH, AND THEN TAKEN HIS OWN LIFE.
WALT JR.
TOOK THAT KIND OF HARD, ESPECIALLY BEING SOMEONE THA HE HAD A STRONG RELATIONSHIP FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
PROBABLY WAS QUITE DISTURBING.
THE TWO ENTITIES -- ONE BEING THE EVIL JOHN HICKMAN, AND ONE BEING THE POSITIVE ENTITY OF WALT JR.
THEY KIND OF SEEM TO COUNTER-BALANCE EACH OTHER, POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE.
THE COLD -- THE CREEPY STUFF SEEMS TO HAPPEN IN THE MAINTENANCE MAN'S DOMAIN IN THE BASEMENT, WHEREAS ALL THE POSITIVE THINGS SEEM TO HAPPEN IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IN THE RESTAURANT, IN THE OFFICE, AND DIFFERENT PLACES THAT WAL WAS IN CHARGE OF.
WALKING DOWN TO THE BASEMEN IS ALWAYS REALLY CREEPY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE THE ONLY PERSON THERE.
IT'S HARD TO WALK THROUGH THE BASEMEN WITHOUT FEELING LIKE SOMETHING TOUCHES YOU, OR HEARING SOMETHING.
GETTING TOUCHED ON THE BACK OF YOUR NECK CAN MAKE A GROWN MAN RUN UP THE STEPS, YOU KNOW, REAL QUICK.
JORDAN APPROACHED ME ONE DAY, ASKING TO DO A PARANORMAL INVESTIGATION.
Paoli: WITH ALL THE THINGS THA WERE GOING ON IN THE RESTAURANT, I BELIEVE IT WAS A GOOD THING TO HAVE AN INVESTIGATION, AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP TO CHRIS.
Szabo: I WAS PRETTY CONFIDEN IN THE FAC THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GATHER SOME KIND OF EVIDENCE.
Paoli: THEY CAME IN ONE NIGHT AFTER THE RESTAURANT WAS CLOSED.
THEY BROUGHT RECORDING DEVICES, A GHOST MACHINE, AND SEVERAL CAMERAS THAT WERE SET UP AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING.
I STARTED IN THE ATTIC WITH FOUR OTHER PEOPLE.
THE GIRL THAT WAS WITH US -- SHE MENTIONED, "DO YOU KNOW JORDAN?" AND IT SAID "YES," AND SHORTLY AFTER, IT SAID "BE CAREFUL.
" I BELIEVE THAT WAS ANOTHER INSTANCE OF WALT SHOWING HIS PRESENCE.
IT WAS JUST LETTING ME KNOW THAT HE WAS THERE, AND THAT HAD AN EFFECT ON ME AS FAR AS AN EMOTIONAL STANDPOINT, 'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER SPOKEN TO HIM SINCE HE PASSED AWAY.
FROM THE ATTIC, I WENT DOWN TO THE BASEMENT.
I KIND OF CAME OUT OF NOWHERE, AND I SAID, "WALT, IF YOU'RE THERE, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO COME INTO WORK.
" AND, FROM THERE, ALL FOUR OF US THAT WERE DOWN THERE, WE ALL GOT CHILL INSTANTLY RIGHT AFTER I SAID THAT.
I THINK HE WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY IT WAS OKAY.
THAT IT WAS OKAY, AND, YOU KNOW, MOVE ON, AND, YOU KNOW, LIVE YOUR LIFE.
Szabo: IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS TO ME THAT JORDAN WAS ABLE TO MAKE A CONNECTION WITH WALT.
A LITTLE FRIGHTENING AND, IN A WAY, KIND OF SATISFYING TO HAVE SOME EVIDENCE AND SOME PROOF OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
Paoli: LATER THAT NIGHT, THERE WAS ANOTHER INSTANCE WHERE, IN ONE OF THE VIDEOS, TWO GIRLS THAT WERE WALKING UP THE STAIRS FROM THE BASEMENT -- AN ORB FOLLOWED UP SHORTLY AFTER.
Szabo: I THINK THE ORB FOLLOWING THE GIRLS UP THE STAIRS THE NIGHT OF THE INVESTIGATION WAS MOST LIKELY WALT.
AND THE REASON I THINK THAT IT WAS WAL WAS THAT MOST OF THE NEGATIVE ENERGY AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE BASEMENT ARE JOHN, AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN UPSTAIRS IN A POSITIVE MANNER ARE WALT.
HE WANTED TO PROTECT OR GO WITH THEM UPSTAIRS FOR SOME REASON.
IN ONE OF THE VIDEOS, IN A SIMILAR PLACE AS THE ORB ON THE STAIRWELL, THERE'S A DARK SHADOW.
AND I BELIEVE THE DARK SHADOW IS JOHN HICKMAN.
Paoli: AT THAT POINT, THERE WAS NO ONE IN THAT PAR OF THE BASEMENT OR STAIRS, SO IT WAS VERY UNEXPLAINABLE.
Szabo: I FIRMLY BELIEVED THAT IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE SPIRITS TO SHOW THEMSELVES, AND I THINK THEY MUSTERED EVERYTHING THEY COULD DO WITH THE SAME INTENTIONS THA WE HAD -- TO PROVE THEMSELVES.
Paoli: FROM THE BASEMENT, WE WENT UP INTO THE KITCHEN AREA.
THERE WAS A CAMERA THAT WAS SET UP NEAR THE MEDIAN OF OUR KITCHEN, AND I KIND OF LET OU AN OUTBURST OF, "HEY, WALT!" DO YOU REMEMBER -- [ CLATTER .]
AS SOON AS I SAID, "HEY, WALT!" THE CAMERA FELL, LIKE, INSTANTLY.
DO YOU REMEMBER -- [ CLATTER .]
AND THAT REALLY, LIKE, KIND OF BLEW MY MIND 'CAUSE IT WAS JUST THAT QUICK.
DO YOU REMEMBER -- [ CLATTER .]
THERE WAS NO WAY THAT IT COULD HAVE FELL.
IT WAS IN A VISE GRIP THAT WAS HOLDING ONTO IT, AND HE TIGHTENED IT, HE FASTENED IT, AND THERE WAS JUST NO WAY IT COULD HAVE FELL BY ITSELF.
IT WAS VERY, VERY SHOCKING TO ME.
THAT MADE ME NERVOUS AFTER THAT POINT, AND I STEPPED OU OF THE BUILDING -- KIND OF RE-ADDRESSED MYSELF.
IT WAS AN, OVERALL, EMOTIONAL NIGHT.
Szabo: SINCE MOVING INTO THE ANTLERS, MY VIEW ON THE AFTERLIFE HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
I THINK SPIRITS WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW THEY WERE THERE, AND I TRULY BELIEVE THEY SAW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW OFF, IN A WAY.
THE INVESTIGATION AND THE EVIDENCE DID SOLIDIFY SOME THINGS FOR ME -- NOT NECESSARILY WHETHER OR NO THEY WERE THERE OR NOT.
I WAS ALREADY TO THAT POINT, BUT IT WAS MORE SO BELIEVING IN THE THEORY OF HICKMAN VERSUS WALT JR.
Dedman: I WAS ABOUT TO FACE SOMETHING THAT MY FAMILY HAD FACED MANY YEARS AGO.
Sanford: THIS BIG, BLACK, SHADOWY MASS ROCKETS LEFT TO RIGHT.
CAN IT BECOME AGGRESSIVE? CAN IT HURT ONE OF US? Dedman: THIS HAD BECOME VERY PERSONAL.
"DO YOU REMEMBER MY FAMILY?" INSTANTLY, I GOT A BURNING SENSATION ON MY BACK.
Sanford: IT'S ALREADY SCRATCHED PEOPLE.
IT'S SLAMMING DOORS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S NEXT? Sanford: THIS BIG, BLACK, SHADOWY MASS GOES LEFT TO RIGHT.
Dedman: INSTANTLY, I GO A BURNING SENSATION ON MY BACK.
Sanford: IT'S ALREADY SCRATCHED PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S NEXT? Dedman: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I REALIZED MY FAMILY HAD A LONG HISTORY WITH AN ANGRY SPIRIT.
THE HARRODSBURG HERALD BUILDING ACTUALLY STARTED OUT AS A HOTEL IN THE 1800s, AND THEN, IN 1951, THE HARRODSBURG HERALD NEWSPAPER BOUGHT THE LOCATION, AND THEY ARE THERE STILL TODAY.
I HAVE FAMILY HISTORY WITH THE HARRODSBURG HERALD BECAUSE MY FAMILY IS FROM HARRODSBURG, KENTUCKY.
WHERE THE WAREHOUSE IS LOCATED USED TO SIT A TAVERN, AND IN THE EARLY 1900s, DURING PROHIBITION, MY FAMILY TRIED TO SHU THIS TAVERN DOWN.
AND THE OWNER OF THE TAVERN, RICHARD, AND MY FAMILY -- THEY KIND OF CONFLICTED, KIND OF LIKE THE OLD HATFIELD/McCOY FEUD.
THE HARRODSBURG HERALD GAVE US A PHONE CALL AND TOLD US ABOUT THE ACTIVITY THAT WAS GOING ON INSIDE THE BUILDING.
THERE WERE LIGHTS BEING TURNED ON AFTER THE BUILDING HAD BEEN LOCKED UP FOR THE EVENING.
PRINTING PRESSES WERE BEING TURNED ON ALL BY THEMSELVES.
DOORS WERE SLAMMING AND CLOSING ON THEIR OWN.
THERE WERE REPORTS BY FEMALE WORKERS THAT THEIR HAIR WAS BEING TUGGED, AND IT WAS STARTING TO DRAW A LOT OF CONCERN.
THAT'S WHY THEY CALLED US TO INVESTIGATE AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE LOCATION.
JEFF SANFORD IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.
Sanford: YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T REALLY BELIEVE IN THE PARANORMAL ALL THAT MUCH, EVEN THOUGH I DID HAVE AN INTEREST IN IT.
I WAS PURELY A SKEPTIC THAT NIGHT.
Dedman: HE DIDN'T THINK HE WAS GONNA SEE ANYTHING.
HE DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING WAS GONNA HAPPEN AT ALL.
WHEN WE ARRIVED A THE HARRODSBURG HERALD, IT WAS AT NIGHT.
THE ATMOSPHERE -- YOU COULD ALMOST CUT I WITH A KNIFE, IT WAS SO THICK.
YOU COULD JUST FEEL THE PRESENCE OF SOMETHING IN THE BUILDING, AND IT WAS ALMOST A FEELING OF, LIKE, IT DIDN'T WANT US THERE.
Sanford: WHEN WE WERE FIRS COMING UP THE STAIRS, THERE WAS A FEW OTHER INVESTIGATORS, AND WE ALL LOOKED, AND WE SAW WHAT APPEARED TO BE LIKE A SMOKEY-LIKE VAPOR -- A WISPY-LOOKING THING LIKE SOMETHING YOU WOULD SEE OUT OF A "HARRY POTTER" MOVIE.
IT WAS NEAR A DOOR.
ONE OF THE INVESTIGATORS DECIDED TO TAKE A FEW PICTURES.
THE FIRST THING I NOTICED WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT, YOU CAN SEE A HEAD AND SHOULDERS AND WHAT LOOKED LIKE AN ARM.
IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT JUST CHILLED YOU, BECAUSE, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE SAW.
Dedman: WHEN I SAW THE PICTURE FOR THE FIRST TIME, I WAS EXCITED BECAUSE WE'D ACTUALLY CAUGHT SOMETHING ON FILM -- A GHOSTLY MIST OF A FEMALE APPARITION IN THE DOORWAY.
WE HAD VALIDATION THA THERE REALLY WAS SOMETHING IN THIS BUILDING.
WE THEN MOVED TO ANOTHER PAR OF THE BUILDING WHERE WE HAD ACTUALLY SET UP A LASER GRID.
Sanford: THIS IS A 50-MILLIWAT GREEN-LASER GRID THAT SENDS OU 1,000 POINTS OF LIGHT.
Dedman: IF A SHADOW WALKS THROUGH THE LASER, IT WILL BREAK THE BEAMS AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE SHADOW IN THE BEAMS.
Sanford: WE WERE ALL SPREAD OUT, AND WE WERE SEEING THIS SHADOW, JUST INSTANTLY, JUST WALKING UP AND DOWN THE SHELVES IN BETWEEN THE AISLES.
BUT NONE OF US COULD REALLY FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS WAS COMING FROM.
AND THEN, VERY DISTINCTLY, AS I'M STANDING THERE, I LOOK OUT OF THE CORNER OF MY EYE.
THE ONLY WAY TO DESCRIBE IT IS THIS BIG, BLACK, SHADOWY MASS.
IT WAS ABOUT 6-FEET TALL.
IT JUST GOES LEFT TO RIGHT, AND MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, YOU KNOW, "WOW, DID YOU GUYS JUST SEE THAT?" AND, TO MY AMAZEMENT, THEY ACTUALLY CAUGHT IT ON FILM.
Dedman: WHAT YOU SEE ON THE VIDEO IS ACTUALLY AN OBJEC THAT MOVES ACROSS THE SCREEN, AND IT DOES BREAK THE BEAM.
IT WAS REALLY EXCITING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT IT WAS, SO WE WERE STARTING TO GE A LITTLE NERVOUS AT WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH.
Sanford: SO, I WAS REVIEWING THE VIDEO OF THE SHADOW THAT WE HAD CAUGHT GOING THROUGH THE LASER GRID.
I ALSO NOTICED THAT, IN ONE PARTICULAR FRAME, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS GOING FROM RIGHT TO LEFT -- WAS A BLUEISH BALL OF LIGHT.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT WAS CHASING US THROUGH THE WAREHOUSE AREAS.
"ARE THEY TRYING TO GE OUR ATTENTION, "OR, MAYBE, ARE THEY JUS WANTING US TO LEAVE? CAN IT BECOME AGGRESSIVE? CAN IT HURT ONE OF US?" I MEAN, YOU JUST HAVE THIS OVERWHELMING FEAR OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
Dedman: IRONICALLY, THIS IS THE SAME AREA WHERE THE TAVERN STOOD, SO WE WERE KIND OF LOGICALLY THINKING THAT THIS COULD BE THE SPIRI OF RICHARD.
HE WAS THE TAVERN OWNER, AND WE HAD JUST CAUGHT HIM ON FILM.
THIS WAS THE MAN THAT MY FAMILY TRIED TO SHUT DOWN IN THE 1920s, AND HE WAS THE SPIRI THAT WAS ALSO ATTACKING THE FEMALE WORKERS THERE IN THE HARRODSBURG HERALD -- PULLING THEIR HAIR, PUSHING THEM.
HE DIDN'T LIKE WOMEN, WHICH MAKES SENSE, BECAUSE THE TAVERN HAD A BROTHEL IN IT, AND HE WAS NOT NICE TO THESE WOMEN.
MY GAME PLAN WAS TO GET RICHARD TO APPEAR WAS TO DO SOME SIMPLE QUESTIONING, AND THEN, IF THAT DIDN'T WORK, I WAS GONNA USE MY FAMILY HISTORY TO DRAW HIM OUT.
Sanford: THE PEOPLE THAT RAN THE TAVERN JUST DID NOT LIKE THE DEDMAN FAMILY.
THERE WAS A HATRED ALMOST LIKE A FAMILY FEUD, AND HERE YOU HAD THIS ENVIRONMEN WHERE YOU HAVE A DEDMAN -- A DIRECT DESCENDENT FROM THESE ORIGINAL TOWNSPEOPLE, AND HE'S ACTUALLY IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN HAPPEN? YOU NEVER KNOW IN THE FIELD OF THE PARANORMAL.
Dedman: MY CONFIDENCE WAS HIGH, BECAUSE I FIGURED, WITH USING THE FAMILY HISTORY, I WOULD BE ABLE TO DRAW RICHARD OUT.
BUT IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, I WAS ALSO WORRIED THAT THIS COULD GO WRONG AND SOMEBODY COULD GET HURT.
YOU COULD FEEL THE INTENSITY OF THE ROOM.
YOU COULD FEEL LIKE THERE WERE EYES ALL AROUND YOU AND WATCHING YOU, AND YOU JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
WE STARTED OUT WITH QUESTIONING RICHARD BY USING A K-II METER.
THE FIRST QUESTION I ASKED HIM WAS, "RICHARD, ARE YOU HERE?" AND IT LIT UP.
SO WE HAD VALIDATION THAT HE WAS IN THE ROOM.
JUST TO BE SURE, THOUGH, I ASKED HIM AGAIN, "RICHARD, ARE YOU HERE WITH US TONIGHT? IF YOU ARE, LIGHT THE K-II METER UP.
" AND HE DID, FOR A SECOND TIME.
Sanford: WE BEGAN TO SEE SHADOWS.
IT HAD, OVERALL, JUST A VERY EERIE FEELING.
Dedman: AND NOW I STARTED TO GE A LITTLE NERVOUS BECAUSE I WAS ABOU TO FACE SOMETHING THAT MY FAMILY HAD FACED MANY YEARS AGO.
Sanford: YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER TO STAY OR RUN.
YOU JUST DIDN'T KNOW.
Dedman: AFTER A SERIES OF ASKING QUESTIONS, RICHARD KIND OF WENT QUIET.
SO TO AGGRAVATE HIM A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MAYBE SEE IF HE WAS STILL THERE, I STARTED PUSHING THE BUTTONS OF ME BEING A DEDMAN.
"DO YOU REMEMBER MY FAMILY? "WE'RE THE ONES THAT SHUT YOU DOWN.
"WE'RE GONNA SHUT YOU DOWN AGAIN.
YOU'RE NO LONGER WELCOME HERE.
" INSTANTLY, THE K-II METER NOT ONLY LIT UP, BUT IT LIT UP ALL THE WAY INTO THE RED.
Sanford: HE'S PUSHING THIS ENTITY, AND THIS ENTITY MAY ACTUALLY PUSH BACK.
Dedman: APPARENTLY, THE SPIRI OF RICHARD WASN'T VERY HAPPY.
WE STARTED HEARING DOORS SLAMMING.
WE WERE HEARING THINGS GETTING SHUFFLED ACROSS THE ROOM.
WE WERE SEEING THINGS MOVE.
AND THEN I GOT A BURNING SENSATION ON MY BACK.
IT FELT LIKE, TO ME, THA SOMEBODY HAD PUT HOT COAL-IRONS RIGHT ON MY BACK AND WAS BURNING INTO MY FLESH.
Sanford: WE WENT OVER AND WE RAISED UP HIS SHIRT, AND THERE WERE THREE VERY DISTINCT SCRATCH MARKS GOING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF HIS BACK.
Dedman: THEY STARTED TAKING PICTURES, AND IT WAS SHOWING THE BURNING ACTUALLY HAPPENING TO ME AS IT EVOLVED.
IT WAS GETTING BRIGHTER AND REDDER.
AND WHEN I SAW THESE PICTURES FOR THE FIRST TIME, I KNEW THAT I HAD BEEN ATTACKED BY SOMETHING.
Sanford: ANY TIME YOU SEE THREE SCRATCHES, IT MEANS IT'S A MOCKING OF THE HOLY TRINITY -- THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.
SO THAT RIGHT THERE PUTS A FEAR INTO YOU.
Dedman: I BELIEVE THAT I WAS ATTACKED BY THE SPIRIT OF RICHARD.
THIS HAD BECOME VERY PERSONAL.
THIS MAN HAD LASHED OU AND ATTACKED ME, AS HE DID MY FAMILY MANY YEARS AGO.
Sanford: AND AS WE'RE STANDING THERE, THIS BIG, HUGE, HEAVY METAL DOOR, ALL BY ITSELF, JUST SLAMS.
THERE'S NO ONE THERE.
IT'S ALREADY SCRATCHED PEOPLE.
IT'S SLAMMING DOORS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S NEXT? Dedman: DURING THE TIME THIS WAS GOING ON, JEFF WAS ACTUALLY USING A DIGITAL RECORDER TO GET EVPs, AND HE KEPT SAYING, "I NEED MORE.
I NEED MORE.
" Sanford: AND MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, "OKAY, DID I JUST IMAGINE THAT?" Dedman: WHEN WE HEARD THE VOICE, WE KNEW FOR SURE THEN THAT THIS WAS THE SPIRI OF RICHARD.
AT THIS POINT, WE STARTED TO LEAVE, BUT OUR RECORDERS WERE STILL RUNNING.
ONE OF THE FEMALE INVESTIGATORS THAT WERE WITH US GRABBED THE RECORDER AND TURNED IT OFF.
LATER, WHEN WE WENT BACK TO REVIEW THE EVIDENCE, THE EVP WE GOT WAS Sanford: THIS THING IS BEING VIOLEN TOWARD ONE OF OUR INVESTIGATORS.
I MEAN, IT'S BEING VULGAR, IT'S CALLING HER A BITCH.
Dedman: ONCE WE GOT THIS EVP AND HEARD IT, IT VALIDATED WHA THE FEMALE WORKERS THERE HAD BEEN CLAIMING ABOUT HIM.
HE DID NOT LIKE WOMEN, AND HE MADE IT KNOWN THAT HE DID NOT LIKE OUR FEMALE INVESTIGATOR BEING THERE, EITHER.
WHEN I GO AND LOOK A THE HARRODSBURG HERALD NOW, THERE IS A PERSONAL FEELING OF ATTACHMENT TO THIS BUILDING.
MY FAMILY HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE HISTORY OF THIS PLACE, AND NOW THAT HISTORY CARRIES ON WITH ME.
Sanford: THAT NIGHT, WHEN I WALKED INTO THE HARRODSBURG HERALD, I WAS A SKEPTIC.
BUT I LEFT THAT NIGH BEING A BELIEVER.
Dedman: LOOKING BACK, I THINK IT WASN'T THAT WISE TO PUSH RICHARD THE WAY THAT I DID, CONSIDERING THAT HE ACTUALLY LASHED OUT AND HE ATTACKED ME.
MY ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE HARRODSBURG HERALD TODAY IS THAT THERE IS ACTIVITY GOING ON IN THIS BUILDING, AND IT NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED.
Dvorak: WHAT I HEARD WAS ABSOLUTELY OVERWHELMING.
Nickerson: I COULDN' BELIEVE WHAT I HEARD.
WE HEARD A VERY DISTINC AND LOUD SCREAM.
Dvorak: WHAT I HEARD WAS ABSOLUTELY OVERWHELMING.
Nickerson: I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I HEARD.
Dvorak: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I STEPPED INSIDE THE ARCADIA OPERA HOUSE.
THE BUILDING WAS USED FOR POLITICAL MEETINGS, SCHOOL GRADUATIONS, DANCES, MOVIE THEATER, SO THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT THERE.
I HEARD GHOST STORIES ABOUT THE PLACE.
THERE'S BEEN REPORTS OF HEARING AND SEEING THE APPARITION OF A MAN BELIEVED TO BE JOHN J.
HEARD, THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THE BUILDING.
IN 1905, THERE WAS A TERRIBLE FIRE THAT WIPED OUT THE MAJORITY OF THE DOWNTOWN SECTION.
IN 1906, JOHN J.
HEARD BUILT THE OPERA HOUSE.
AROUND THE AUDITORIUM OF IT, HE MADE LITTLE ROOMS FOR ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE LOS SO THEY WERE ABLE TO STAR THEIR BUSINESS AGAIN.
HE DID A LOT OF GOOD FOR THE TOWN AT THAT TIME.
ARCADIA ALSO WAS KNOWN FOR HAVING A LOT OF ORPHANAGES IN TOWN.
THEY ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING CALLED "ORPHANAGE ROW.
" THE ORPHANS WERE ABLE TO COME INTO THE OPERA HOUSE TO VIEW MOVIES AND SUCH.
WE'VE SMELT THEIR BUBBLE GUM AND THEIR LEMON DROPS, SO I KNOW THAT THE ORPHANS ARE STILL AROUND.
[ CHILDREN LAUGHING FAINTLY .]
Nickerson: SPROUT AND I ARE BOTH PARANORMAL INVESTIGATORS.
WE BOTH INDEPENDENTLY INVESTIGATED THE OPERA HOUSE MANY TIMES, AND, JUST RECENTLY, WE DECIDED TO COMPARE OUR EVIDENCE TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANY SIMILARITIES.
Dvorak: WE WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND OU MORE ABOUT THE SPIRITS, SO THAT WAS VERY EXCITING FOR US.
Nickerson: WE WERE INITIALLY ALERTED TO THE FRONT CORNER ROOM OF THE OPERA HOUSE BY MIKE SAGER.
HE WAS THE OWNER AT THE TIME.
THROUGH THE YEARS OF DOING INVESTIGATIONS THERE, I'D REALLY BECOME A PRETTY GOOD FRIEND OF HIS.
HE TOLD ME THAT ONE OF THE PATRONS WAS STOPPED AT A RED LIGHT, AND A LITTLE GIRL APPEARED IN THE WINDOW.
THE RUMORS AND STORIES ARE THAT A CHILD FELL OU THE SAME CORNER WINDOW AND DIED ON IMPACT.
[ GIRL SCREAMS .]
WHEN WE INITIALLY WENT IN THAT ROOM, WE WERE HIT WITH THAT WALL OF HEAVINESS.
MY WIFE COULD HARDLY BREATHE.
THE OTHER INVESTIGATOR, CINDY, HAD VERY STRONG PRESSURE IN HER HEAD.
YOU HAVE PAINS IN YOUR CHEST, AND YOU JUST HAVE TO GET OUT.
WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING EVIDENCE FOR THAT ROOM, WE HEARD A VERY DISTINC AND LOUD SCREAM.
IT PUT SHIVERS IN MY SPINE WHEN I HEARD IT.
IN THAT FRONT CORNER ROOM, WE HAVE INVESTIGATORS THAT HAVE BEEN TOUCHED.
WE'VE HAD DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH INTELLIGENT SPIRITS IN THAT ROOM.
I THINK THAT WHISTLE WAS A SPIRIT ENERGY TRYING TO INTERACT WITH ME.
SPROUT HAD GOT SOME EVIDENCE IN THAT AREA THAT WAS SIMILAR.
Dvorak: IT WAS FASCINATING TO HEAR THAT SOUND.
IT WAS NICE TO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE EVIDENCE THAT WE BOTH CAPTURED ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS ARE THE SAME.
Nickerson: DURING ONE OF THE VIDEOS THAT WE TOOK, ONE TEAM MEMBER WAS WITH ME AND SHE HEARD MY NAME CALLED.
AND ANOTHER INVESTIGATOR ALSO HEARD IT.
BUT I DIDN'T HEAR I TILL IT WAS REVIEWED.
IT WAS VERY LOUD AND IT SOUNDED LIKE, "LEIGH!" TO HEAR THEM IDENTIFYING ME WITH MY NAME -- THAT WAS HUGE.
Dvorak: THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY AROUND THE STAGE AREA.
SO WE SET UP A CAMERA ON THE BALCONY FACING DOWN AT THE STAGE.
WHAT WE CAPTURED ON OUR VIDEO WAS NOT WHAT WE EXPECTED.
IT WAS SOME SOR OF A LIGHT ANOMALY.
IT LIGHTS UP, IT FLICKERS A LITTLE, AND IT GOES RIGHT BACK OUT.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS.
IT SITS ON THE SECOND FLOOR, SO THERE WAS NO WAY THERE COULD HAVE BEEN CAR LIGHTS OR ANYTHING FLASHING IN THERE.
IT'S THE ONLY TIME WE HAVE EVER CAPTURED THAT ANOMALY THERE.
I COULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT I SAW.
DURING ANOTHER INVESTIGATION, OUR AUDIO RECORDERS PICKED UP THE SOUND OF A MAESTRO'S BATON BEING TAPPED ON A PODIUM.
WE WERE ALL SITTING STILL.
THERE WAS NOBODY MOVING AT THE TIME.
Nickerson: IT WAS JUST THERE OU OF THE BLUE, ALL OF A SUDDEN.
I THINK THE TAPPING WAS RESIDUAL ENERGY, WITH THE OPERA HOUSE BEING A PERFORMING STAGE.
THERE'S REALLY STRONG EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS RESIDUAL ENERGY THERE, AS WELL AS INTELLIGENT.
A YEAR OR SO LATER, I WAS SETTING UP ANOTHER INVESTIGATION, AND I CALLED MIKE, AND HIS WIFE TOLD ME THAT HE HAD PASSED.
HE WAS FOUND IN A PILE OF LEAVES BETWEEN THE OPERA HOUSE AND ANOTHER STORE.
Dvorak: IT WAS SO SHOCKING, AND IT WAS VERY SCARY BECAUSE NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED.
WE FINALLY WENT BACK TO INVESTIGATE AND SEE IF WE COULD GET ANSWERS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WITH ME RIGHT NOW? WHEN I REVIEWED THE EVIDENCE, WHAT I HEARD WAS ABSOLUTELY OVERWHELMING.
THE VOICE THAT CAME THROUGH SAYS, "KILLED MICHAEL.
" SECONDS LATER, ANOTHER VOICE SAYS, "HELP HIM.
" Nickerson: I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I HEARD.
IT MADE ME WONDER, "COULD THERE BE SOMETHING MALEVOLENT AT THE OPERA HOUSE?" Dvorak: WE HAD DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH SOMEONE THAT WE KNEW IN LIFE.
IT WASN'T NECESSARILY MICHAEL, BUT SOMEBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT KNEW MICHAEL.
IT MEANS THA THEY'RE WATCHING US, AND THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEY KNOW THA THERE'S MAYBE A WAY THAT WE CAN HELP THEM ON THE OTHER SIDE.
Nickerson: HAVING BEEN THERE, SEEN THE THINGS WE'VE SEEN, BEING TOUCHED THE PHYSICAL EFFEC THAT IT CAN HAVE ON YOUR BODY IT'S MADE ME COME TO REALIZE THAT THERE'S A LOT IN THIS WORLD THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
Dvorak: BETWEEN WHAT WE HAVE CAPTURED AND WHAT LEIGH CAPTURED, IT'S CONCRETE EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THERE STILL AT THE OPERA HOUSE.
I BELIEVE THERE'S MANY DIFFEREN ENTITIES THERE.
THE PAST OWNER, MICHAEL, MIGHT EVEN STILL BE AROUND THERE SOMEWHERE, TOO.
WHOEVER'S THERE, THEY'RE DEFINITELY TRYING TO GET OUR ATTENTION, AND THEY REALLY LOVE THE OPERA HOUSE.
Pucillo: THE AMOUNT OF ORBS THAT WERE IN THE ROOM AND JUST AROUND HIM WERE AMAZING.
Mulcahy: I STARTED TAKING PICTURES.
IT AMAZED ME.
IT'S A REALLY BIG ORB.
Pucillo: I COULDN'T BELIEVE MY EYES.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT I JUST CAUGHT THIS.
Mulcahy: I DID A LIVE PLAYBACK.
Pucillo: AND WHAT HE PLAYED BACK FOR ME SHOCKED ME.
Pucillo: THE AMOUNT OF ORBS WERE AMAZING.
Mulcahy: I DID A LIVE PLAYBACK.
Pucillo: I COULDN'T BELIEVE MY EYES.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT I JUST CAUGHT THIS.
MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I MOVED INTO THE PENNY HOMESTEAD IN PATTERSON, NEW YORK.
MY HUSBAND AND I WERE LOOKING TO MOVE INTO A HOUSE.
WE WERE LIVING IN AN APARTMENT, AND OUR FAMILY WAS GROWING.
MY HUSBAND HAD TOLD ME ABOU THIS TOWN, PATTERSON, NEW YORK.
AND I SAID, "OKAY.
LET'S GO LOOK.
" AND, ORIGINALLY, WE WERE SHOWN A DIFFERENT HOUSE, AND I WAS NOT PLEASED.
BEFORE I LEFT, I SAID TO THE REALTOR, "WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN SHOW US?" AND SHE SAID, "WELL, I HAVE THIS ONE HOUSE.
DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA LIKE IT, BUT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK.
" AS SOON AS WE PULLED UP THE DRIVEWAY, IT WAS LIKE A FORCE JUST TOLD ME, "COME INTO THE HOUSE.
LOOK AROUND.
MAKE YOURSELF AT HOME.
" I LOOKED AT MY HUSBAND AND I SAID, "LET'S MAKE AN OFFER RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE TO LIVE HERE.
" SO WE DID.
I WAS FEELING KIND OF DOWN ONE MORNING.
I WOKE UP, AND JUS NOTHING WAS GOING RIGHT.
I NEEDED TO GET OU OF THE HOUSE.
SO I WENT DOWN THE ROAD, AND I JUST KEPT WALKING AND WALKING AND WALKING.
AND, FOR SOME REASON, I HAD THIS PULL -- THIS ENERGY THAT DREW ME RIGHT TO THE CEMETERY.
I WENT IN, AND THE VERY FIRST TOMBSTONE THAT I SAW WAS FOR PHILIP PENNY.
I SAID, "WHO'S PENNY?" I'VE HEARD THAT NAME BEFORE.
THEN I RAN HOME AND I WENT UP TO MY ATTIC, AND THERE IT WAS.
IN THE CHIMNEY FLUE, THERE WAS AN INSCRIPTION, AND IT SAID, "PHILIP PENNY, CIRCA 1852.
" IT WASN'T A COINCIDENCE.
I KNEW THAT THERE HAD TO BE SOME MESSAGE BEHIND THAT.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS.
AFTER THAT, USUALLY AROUND THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, I WOULD BE AWAKENED BY TAPPING ON THE PILLOW -- THREE TIMES.
[ TAPPING .]
ANOTHER TIME, IT WAS TAPPING ON MY SHOULDER THREE TIMES, AS WELL.
[ TAPPING .]
AND I WOULD WAKE UP, AND THERE'D BE NO ONE THERE.
I ALSO HEAR VOICES.
[ INDISTINCT VOICES .]
THEY SOUND LIKE MY CHILDREN SOMETIMES.
I WILL CHECK ON THEM, AND THEY'RE SLEEPING.
AND THEN I HAD THIS ONE PARTICULAR DREAM -- THIS YOUNG LADY WHO WAS BEING HELD DOWN AGAINST HER WILL.
AND THERE WAS A COUPLE -- AN OLDER GENTLEMAN AND A WOMAN.
SHE WAS HOLDING THE YOUNG LADY DOWN, AND HE WAS, BASICALLY, HACKING HER UP USING A HATCHET.
AND SHE WAS SCREAMING, AND EVENTUALLY, SHE DIED.
AND WHEN I WOKE UP, I WAS JUST SHAKING.
I FELT LIKE SOMEBODY KICKED ME IN THE STOMACH.
AND THEN I SEE THE SPIRI OF THIS YOUNG LADY AT THE FOOT OF THE BED LOOKING AT ME, AND I KIND OF FROZE BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
SHE WENT OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE BED AND THEN KIND OF WEN RIGHT THROUGH ME.
AND I JUST HAD THE CHILLS, AND I FELT VERY, VERY COLD.
I FELT CHANGED AFTER THAT EXPERIENCE.
SO, NOW I'M THINKING, "I NEED HELP.
" SO I CALLED AN INVESTIGATOR.
Mulcahy: I GOT A CALL FROM CARMEN.
SHE BELIEVED THAT HER HOME WAS HAUNTED, AND SHE WANTED ME TO CHECK IT OUT.
I DID A LITTLE BACKGROUND RESEARCH OF THE HOME.
I CAME UP WITH PHILIP PENNY, WHO WAS THE ORIGINAL HOMEOWNER.
HE WAS THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, AS WELL AS A CORONER.
Pucillo: I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE JAMES WHEN HE CAME.
HE GOT TO WORK RIGHT AWAY.
Mulcahy: I STARTED MY INVESTIGATION IN THE ATTIC.
I STARTED TAKING PICTURES, AND I CAUGHT THIS ONE SHOT.
IT AMAZED ME.
IT'S A REALLY BIG ORB.
GIVEN THE LOCATION OF WHERE I CAPTURED THIS ORB, I BELIEVE THAT IT COULD BE THE SPIRIT OF MR.
PENNY.
Pucillo: RIGHT AFTER HE FINISHED IN THE ATTIC, JAMES WENT DOWN TO THE BASEMEN TO SET UP THE EVP SESSION.
Mulcahy: I'M IN THE BASEMENT.
I TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE SPIRITS, AND I TRY CAPTURING THEIR VOICES ON A DIGITAL RECORDER.
WITHIN FIVE MINUTES OR SO INTO THAT EVP SESSION, I HEARD WHAT SOUNDED LIKE A FEMALE VOICE.
I DID A LIVE PLAYBACK.
Pucillo: AND WHAT HE PLAYED BACK FOR ME SHOCKED ME.
Mulcahy: I HEARD A FEMALE VOICE SAYING, "REMEMBER ME.
" Pucillo: AND I'M SURE THAT WAS THE VOICE OF THIS SPIRI OF THE YOUNG LADY WHO WAS AT THE FOOT OF MY BED.
Mulcahy: I ALSO CAUGH ANOTHER EVP SAYING Pucillo: THE EVP THAT BOTHERED ME THE MOS WAS THE ONE THAT SAID, "BE GONE.
" I FEEL THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE THE VOICE OF THE GENTLEMAN WHO KILLED THE YOUNG GIRL, AND HE DOESN'T WANT US MEDDLING IN HIS BUSINESS.
Mulcahy: AFTER THAT, WE PACKED UP AND WENT HOME.
Pucillo: JAMES IS DONE WITH HIS INVESTIGATION.
I WAS PLEASED WITH THEIR RESULTS, BUT NOW I DECIDED THAT, PERHAPS, I SHOULD TRY DOING SOME OF MY OWN INVESTIGATIONS.
MY SON -- HE HAPPENS TO HAVE AUTISM.
SO WHEN HE STARTED TALKING, HE WOULD DIRECT QUESTIONS TO THINGS THAT WEREN'T THERE.
PERHAPS HE WAS ABLE TO SEE MORE THAN WE CAN.
SO I FOCUSED ON HIM, AND EVERY SINGLE TIME I RECORD MY SON, I GET ORBS.
THE AMOUNT OF ORBS THAT WERE IN THE ROOM AND JUST AROUND HIM WERE AMAZING.
I WENT UP TO MY BEDROOM BECAUSE NOW I WAS CURIOUS.
I JUST PUT ON THE RECORDER, AND WITHIN THREE MINUTES, I SAW THIS HUGE ORB JUST GOING ACROSS THE SCREEN.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE MY EYES.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT I JUST CAUGHT THIS.
Mulcahy: WHEN I SAW THE VIDEO THAT SHE TOOK IN HER BEDROOM, SHE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS AN ORB.
I BELIEVE THAT IT'S A PARTIAL MANIFESTATION OF SOME TYPE OF SPIRIT.
Pucillo: THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE HAS CONFIRMED WHAT I'VE BELIEVED ALL ALONG, THAT THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF ENERGY AROUND US.
Mulcahy: I BELIEVE THAT IT'S THE SPIRITS OF MR.
AND MRS.
PENNY.
I THINK THAT THEY'RE STILL HERE BECAUSE THEY ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEIR HOME.
THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO LET GO.
Pucillo: THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS WITH THE INVESTIGATION I HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE NOT EVIL AND THAT THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE IN MY HOME, BUT WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
Faudree: I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I WAS SEEING.
Winn: HE LOOKED AT ME WITH SUCH HATRED AND ANGER.
Faudree: I DEFINITELY THINK SOMETHING WAS TRYING TO ENTER HIM.
I THINK SOMETHING WAS TRYING TO TAKE HIM OVER.
Faudree: I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I WAS SEEING.
Winn: HE LOOKED AT ME WITH SUCH HATRED AND ANGER.
Winn: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I VISITED THE GASLIGHT INN IN INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA.
THERE IS A GRAVEYARD LOCATED BEHIND GASLIGHT INN.
WE HAD HEARD THAT THERE WAS SOME GRAVE ROBBERS WHO WOULD TAKE THE BODIES AND DUMP THEM IN THE BASEMEN OF GASLIGHT INN AND PAY SOMEBODY TO DO EXPERIMENTS ON IT.
WE HAD HEARD THAT THE GASLIGH INN WAS A GANGSTER HANGOUT.
WE HEARD THAT DILLINGER HAD STAYED THERE.
GASLIGHT INN WAS WANTING TO DO A MEET AND GREET THERE TO LET PEOPLE DO INVESTIGATIONS.
Faudree: WHAT DREW ME TO THE GASLIGHT INN WAS THE HISTORY OF THE PLACE.
Winn: I MET JOE WHEN HE JOINED OUR PARANORMAL GROUP.
Faudree: OVER THE TIME THAT WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER, WE'VE PROBABLY DONE OVER A DOZEN PARANORMAL INVESTIGATIONS TOGETHER.
Winn: BEFORE I GOT THERE, JOE WAS ALREADY THERE, AND HE HAD BEEN TAKING PICTURES WITH ROGER, DOING EVPs, AND SETTING UP CAMERA EQUIPMENT.
Faudree: IT WAS JUST ME AND HIM UPSTAIRS IN THE SECOND FLOOR.
WHEN HE TOOK THE PICTURE, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THERE.
BUT AFTER WE REVIEWED IT, THERE WAS A SHADOW.
Winn: THERE IS A RUMOR THAT THERE WAS A SPIRIT THERE THAT THEY CALLED "BIG BLACK.
" WHEN I HAD SAW THAT PHOTO, I THOUGHT, MOST LIKELY, IT WAS THE FIGURE OF BIG BLACK THAT I HAD HEARD ABOUT.
WHEN I WAS ON MY WAY TO THE INVESTIGATION AT GASLIGHT INN, MY SON, STEVEN, HAD CALLED.
HE HAD JUST RECENTLY BROKE UP WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND.
IT WAS A PRETTY BAD BREAKUP, SO I ASKED HIM IF HE WANTED TO COME UP THERE AND HANG OUT.
Faudree: WE STARTED GOING OVER OUR EQUIPMENT AND SET EVERYTHING UP.
AT THAT POINT, IT WAS LIKE 9:00 OR 10:00 WHEN ELIZABETH SHOWED UP.
Winn: SO, MY SON CAME UP THERE TO DO THE INVESTIGATION.
Faudree: WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING TERRIBLE, OR SOMETHING BAD THAT HAPPENS IN YOUR LIFE, YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO INTO PLACES WHERE THERE ARE SPIRITS BECAUSE SPIRITS FEED OFF THAT.
I KIND OF WONDERED IF HE WAS GONNA HAVE AN ISSUE.
Winn: WHEN I GOT THERE, WE WERE DOING A TOUR OF THE BUILDING.
WENT OUTSIDE AND WALKED AROUND THE CEMETERY, TOURED THE INSIDE AND THE UPSTAIRS AND THE BASEMENT.
I HAD SPOKE TO JOE, THE OWNER.
HE WAS TELLING ME BIG BLACK SHOWS UP A LOT IN THE BASEMENT.
I KNEW THAT WAS A POIN WHERE WE NEEDED TO FOCUS ON OUR INVESTIGATION.
Faudree: AS WE WERE GOING DOWN AND INVESTIGATING, WE ALWAYS RUN AUDIO.
ROGER HAD REVIEWED THE AUDIO, AND CLEAR AS DAY, YOU CAN HEAR A LITTLE GIRL SAY, "HELP.
" Winn: I FELT LIKE SHE WAS TRAPPED, BECAUSE THERE WAS SUCH A MEAN SPIRIT THERE AS BIG BLACK.
Faudree: THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THERE'S A LITTLE GIRL'S SPIRI IN THAT BASEMENT.
WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE BASEMEN BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MOS OF THE ACTIVITY WAS.
ELIZABETH HAD BROUGH HER GHOST BOX.
IT'S AN ELECTRONIC MACHINE THA CAN COMMUNICATE WITH SPIRITS.
YOU ASK QUESTIONS, AND THE SPIRITS WILL SENSOR I TO BUZZ ONCE FOR "YES," TWICE FOR "NO.
" AS WE WERE ASKING QUESTIONS, WE BELIEVE THAT WE WERE TALKING TO A LITTLE GIRL'S SPIRIT.
Winn: SO WE HAD ASKED HER, DID SHE FEEL TRAPPED DOWNSTAIRS IN THE BASEMENT, AND ON THE GHOST METER, IT ANSWERED "YES.
" THEN WE WERE ASKING THE LITTLE GIRL IF THE SPIRIT DOWN THERE, WAS IT A BAD SPIRIT, AND SHE SAID "YES.
" Faudree: WE CONTINUED TO ASK HER QUESTIONS.
THE LITTLE GIRL PRETTY MUCH QUIT TALKING TO US.
AT THAT TIME, STEVEN STARTED TO PROVOKE THE MALE SPIRIT.
Winn: FELT LIKE IT WAS A BULLY.
HE FELT LIKE IT WAS TRAPPING THE LITTLE GIRL, AND HE DIDN'T LIKE IT.
Faudree: IT'S BELIEVED THAT PROVOKING WILL CAUSE SPIRITS TO BE MORE ACTIVE.
Winn: HE WAS BASICALLY TELLING BIG BLACK THAT, "YOU'RE NOT SO TOUGH.
YOU THINK YOU'RE A BIG BULLY.
WHY DON'T YOU MAKE ME GET UP OFF THIS SEAT?" HE WAS BASICALLY TEARING UP BIG BLACK AND WANTED TO LET HIM KNOW HE WASN'T GONNA BOSS HIM AROUND.
Man: OKAY, I'M TAGGING THIS.
Winn: THEN, THE NEXT THING I KNOW, STEVEN'S GOING, "MOM, MOM, MOM, MOM, MOM!" AND HE JUMPS UP AND HE TURNS AROUND, AND WE LIFT HIS SHIRT UP, AND THERE'S SCRATCHES DOWN HIS SIDE.
AND HE SAID IT FELT LIKE SOMETHING WAS GRABBING HIM.
Faudree: BUT THE LONGER I LOOKED AT THE SCRATCHES, THE REDDER AND THE BIGGER THEY GOT.
AT THAT POINT, I TOOK MY DIGITAL CAMERA OU AND TOOK A COUPLE PICTURES.
Winn: WHEN I SAW MY SON GETTING SCRATCHES DOWN HIS BACK BY SOMETHING WE COULD NOT SEE, THAT REALLY SCARED ME.
Faudree: I HAD NEVER EXPERIENCED ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND IT FREAKED ME OUT.
Winn: I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN NEXT.
Faudree: AFTER I TOOK THE PICTURE, STEVEN STARTED ACTING WEIRD.
[ DEVICE BEEPS .]
Winn: I TURNED AROUND, AND HE, FOR SOME STRANGE REASON, JUST STEPPED INTO THE PANTRY.
I LOOKED IN THERE, AND HE'S, LIKE, JUST STANDING THERE LOOKING AT THE WALL.
I'M LIKE, "STEVEN, COME ON.
" AND HE LOOKED AT ME WITH SUCH HATRED AND ANGER.
Faudree: I DEFINITELY THINK SOMETHING WAS TRYING TO ENTER HIM.
I THINK SOMETHING WAS TRYING TO TAKE HIM OVER.
Winn: ALL I KNEW WAS, I NEEDED TO GET HIM OUT OF THAT ROOM.
EVERY TIME I TRIED TO REACH IN, HE WOULD JERK HIS ARM AWAY FROM ME.
BUT HE WAS JUST GLARING AT ME.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN SCARED OF MY SON IN MY LIFE, BUT I WAS SCARED OF HIM FROM THAT MOMENT.
FINALLY, I WAS ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF HIS ARM ENOUGH AND YANK HIM OUT OF THE ROOM.
THEN I GOT HIM AT THAT POINT, I WAS JUS RELIEVED IT WAS OVER.
I SAID, "STEVEN, DO YOU REMEMBER ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED DOWNSTAIRS IN THE BASEMENT?" AND IT FREAKED HIM OUT 'CAUSE HE DID NOT REMEMBER ANYTHING.
IT'S LIKE A BLACKOUT TO HIM.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE SAW IN THE PICTURE, THAT WAS WHAT SCRATCHED STEVEN, THAT IS WHAT TOOK STEVEN OVER IN THE PANTRY.
BIG BLACK IS DEFINITELY THE BULLY.
THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THE SPIRIT OF BIG BLACK HAUNTS GASLIGHT INN.
Faudree: IF SOMEBODY DIDN'T BELIEVE ME, I'D SAY, "YOU JUST HAVE TO GO TO THE GASLIGHT INN AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF.
" Winn: IF YOU WERE THERE, AND YOU SAW THE WAY MY SON LOOKED AT ME, YOU'D KNOW THAT GASLIGHT INN IS HAUNTED.