My Ghost Story (2010) s06e06 Episode Script
My Orb Story
Jonas: IT BREATHED ON THE BACK OF MY NECK.
Woman: [ GASPS .]
IT WAS RIGHT BEHIND ME ALL THE WAY OUT OF THE JAIL.
I KNEW IT WAS TIME TO GET OUT OF THERE.
James: I SPUN AROUND AND SNAPPED.
Debbie: THERE'S AN ORB FOLLOWING US OUT.
James: THERE WERE NO FOOTSTEPS, BUT IT'S THAT FEELING THAT SOMETHING'S LOOKING DEAD AT THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD AS YOU'RE WALKING AWAY.
Debbie: I'M STILL GETTING CHILLS THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE.
Dexter: I GOT THIS WEIRD FEELING.
I HAPPENED TO GLANCE IN MY REARVIEW, AND I SEEN A MAN SITTING IN THE BACKSEAT OF MY CAR.
I SAID, "ARE YOU OKAY? DO YOU NEED HELP?" THAT'S WHEN I NOTICED HE WASN'T HUMAN.
HE WAS A SPIRIT.
Leder: WHAT WE WERE FEELING, THAT THERE WERE SPIRITS IN HERE, IS ACTUALLY TRUE.
THIS ORB ACTIVITY WAS AN ANGRY MAN RESIDING IN HER HOME.
Ovadal: I CAN FEEL THEM BUT CAN'T SEE THEM.
THAT ABSOLUTELY STUNNED ME.
Versace: TO THINK THAT SOMETHING WAS WATCHING US WAS CREEPY.
Pearson: AN ENTITY WAS THERE.
MADE MY BLOOD RUN COLD.
IT WILL HAUNT ME FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
Versace: THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THERE WITH US.
Pearson: AN ENTITY WAS THERE.
IT WILL HAUNT ME FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
Versace: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I VISITED THE RED MILL MUSEUM IN CLINTON, NEW JERSEY.
THE RED MILL IS VERY APPEALING TO THE EYE, AND I HEARD SOME CRAZY CLAIMS, SO I WANTED TO GO DOWN THERE TO INVESTIGATE WITH MY FRIEND JANE AND ANOTHER WOMAN, LAUREN, AND SEE IF THESE CLAIMS OF PARANORMAL ACTIVITY ACTUALLY EXISTED.
BRUCE PEARSON, WHO IS THE TRUSTEE AT THE RED MILL, TOOK US ON A WALK-THROUGH.
WE TOOK PROBABLY A GOOD HOUR AND A HALF WALKING THROUGH THE PLACE, LEARNING ITS HISTORY.
Pearson: THE RED MILL MUSEUM VILLAGE IS A 200-YEAR-OLD, 10-ACRE INDUSTRIAL SITE WHICH HAS A NUMBER OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS ON IT.
THERE ARE TWO ACTIVE LIMESTONE QUARRIES THAT WERE MINED ON THE PROPERTY.
THE CRUSHER BUILDING, AN AUTHENTIC SCHOOLHOUSE, AND A REVOLUTIONARY WAR FRONTIER CABIN, AS WELL AS THE MILL ITSELF.
IT PROCESSED EVERYTHING FROM GRAIN TO FLAX TO GRAPHITE.
THEY WERE RUNNING VERY POWERFUL MACHINERY, SO IT WAS A VERY TOUGH AND DANGEROUS PLACE TO WORK.
AT A HIGH SPEED, YOU COULD GET A SHIRT OR AN ARM CAUGHT.
IT WOULD RIP YOUR ARM RIGHT OFF.
THERE WERE NUMEROUS INJURIES, AS WELL AS NUMEROUS DEATHS ON THE PROPERTY.
Versace: THE HISTORY OF DEATHS AND TRAGEDY REALLY MAKE THE MILL VERY CONDUCIVE TO PARANORMAL ACTIVITY.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE DO WHILE WE'RE ON A WALK-THROUGH IS WE TAKE BASELINE READINGS SO THAT WE KNEW EXACTLY WHERE TO SET UP FOR OUR INVESTIGATION.
WE'LL HAVE A DIGITAL RECORDER GOING.
WE'LL HAVE OUR EMF DETECTORS.
ONE OF OUR FAVORITE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IS OUR THERMAL CAMERA.
WE ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO DECIPHER WHERE THERE'S COLD SPOTS AND WHERE THERE'S HEAT SIGNATURES.
Pearson: HAVING SPEN FOUR OR FIVE YEARS IN THE MUSEUM ON THESE TOURS, MANY PEOPLE HAVE COME TO ME AND SAID, "HEY, THE PLACE IS HAUNTED.
" I'M AN OPEN-MINDED SKEPTIC, SO I LISTENED.
THEN, WEEK AFTER WEEK, A PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE STARTED TO ADD UP.
THE VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF HAD PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.
ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING EXPERIENCES I'VE EVER HAD TOOK PLACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE MILL.
I WAS LOCKING EVERYTHING UP.
I GOT TO THE SECOND FLOOR, AND THE MOST GOD-AWFUL, MOURNFUL MAN'S MOANING VOICE CAME OU SO LOUD FROM THAT FLOOR.
PROBABLY LASTED A GOOD 6 OR 7 SECONDS.
WHEN IT STOPPED, IT ECHOED THROUGH THE BUILDING.
MADE MY BLOOD RUN COLD.
I WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FOURTH FLOOR AND WALKED EVERY INCH OF THE BUILDING AGAIN.
THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE BUILDING.
THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS IN THERE.
THERE WAS NO WAY FOR ANYONE TO MAKE THAT KIND OF SOUND, NOR DID IT COME FROM OUTSIDE.
I'VE WORKED AS A FIRST RESPONDER, AS AN EMT, ON THE RESCUE SQUAD AND IN THE MILITARY.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING AS SHOCKING TO ME OR AS TERRIFYING THAN THE VOICE OF THIS MAN MOANING.
THE TERROR THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL HAD TO BE FACING, IT JUST -- IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL HAUN ME FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
BUT IT WAS TRULY A LIFE-CHANGING EXPERIENCE BECAUSE, FROM THAT MOMENT ON, I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THE RED MILL IS HAUNTED.
Versace: WE REALLY WANTED TO START OUR INVESTIGATION IN THE RED MILL BECAUSE MOST OF THE CLAIMS OF PARANORMAL ACTIVITY TOOK PLACE AT THAT LOCATION.
THERE WAS TWO ALLEGED DEATHS ON THE FOURTH FLOOR.
ONE WAS A BOY FOUND HUNG IN THE RAFTERS.
HE WAS A BIT OF A WISE-ASS, AND THE WORKERS GOT TIRED OF HIM AND ACTUALLY LYNCHED HIM AND HUNG HIM.
AND THEN THE MILL, ALSO BEING A TALC MILL, HAD A VAT WHERE THEY WOULD FEED THE POWDERED TALC.
ONE OF THE WORKERS FELL INTO THAT VA AND PERISHED BY GETTING TALC FULL IN HIS LUNGS.
SO HE ACTUALLY SUFFOCATED BY TALCUM POWDER, WHICH I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IS REALLY A HORRIFIC WAY TO DIE.
SO WE REALLY WANTED TO SET UP THERE AND SEE WHAT WE COULD CAPTURE AND SEE IF WE CAN CONTAC THOSE GENTLEMEN UP THERE.
WE DECIDED TO START BY THE VA WHERE THE WORKER PASSED AWAY, AND AS I'M FILMING MY FRIEND, I SEE A BLACK MASS, MAYBE 3, 4 FEET HIGH, RUN ACROSS THE TOP OF THE STAIRS.
SO WE RAN UP THERE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD CAPTURE.
WE LOOKED ALL OVER.
WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING, BUT LATER ON, ON THAT VIDEO, RIGHT AS WE HI THE TOP OF THE STAIRS WHERE I HAD SEEN THAT BLACK MASS, WE HEARD AN EVIL LAUGHTER.
IT'S ALMOST AS IF IT WAS MOCKING US BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE HIM, SO HE'S LIKE, "HA HA HA.
" TO THINK THAT SOMETHING WAS WATCHING US WAS REALLY CREEPY.
THE NEXT PLACE WE DECIDED TO INVESTIGATE WAS AN OLD SCHOOLHOUSE, LIKE "LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE" KIND OF THING, WHERE ALL AGES WOULD SIT THERE AND PROBABLY BE THERE EVERY DAY FROM THERE WERE 5 YEARS OLD UNTIL THEY WERE PROBABLY 16, 17 YEARS OLD AND WERE OLD ENOUGH TO GO WORK OUT ON THE FIELDS.
THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THIS BUILDING, AND SO DID THE TEACHER.
NOW, SOMETIMES A PLACE IS HAUNTED BECAUSE PEOPLE LOVE TO REVISI WHERE THEY HAD GOOD TIMES OR WHERE THEY SPEN A LOT OF THEIR TIME GROWING UP.
SO WE WERE HOPING TO REALLY CATCH SOMETHING IN THE SCHOOLHOUSE THAT NIGHT.
WE'RE POKING AROUND IN THERE AND FOUND A LIST OF RULES.
SO WE DECIDED TO BREAK A FEW OF THESE RULES AND MAYBE ENTICE THE TEACHER TO SPEAK TO US IN AN EVP SESSION.
WE ASKED IT TO KNOCK, AND WE GOT A KNOCK.
[ KNOCKING .]
[ KNOCK .]
I REALLY COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
WHEN I HEARD THAT KNOCKING, I REALLY HAD TO CONSIDER THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING IN THERE WITH US BECAUSE NO ONE WAS WALKING AROUND AND THERE WAS NOTHING UNDERNEATH THE SCHOOLHOUSE.
THERE'S NO LOWER LEVEL.
SO THERE'S NO ONE THAT COULD BE MESSING AROUND, NO ANIMALS.
IT SITS SQUARELY ON THE GROUND.
SO WE FIGURED, "LET'S ASK AGAIN.
" AND THIS TIME, THREE SOLID KNOCKS CAME UP THROUGH THE FLOORBOARDS WHERE I WAS STANDING.
[ KNOCKING .]
NOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HEARD AND I ALSO FELT.
SO, RIGHT AWAY, WE RAN FOR IT.
THE NEXT DAY, I WENT BACK TO LOOK OVER SOME OF WHAT WE CAPTURED WITH BRUCE.
WE'RE GOING OVER THE THERMAL.
ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE MILL, YOU COULD SEE BRUCE WALK PAST.
SO YOU GE A CLEAR SIGNATURE OF HEAT, AND THEN IN THE DOORWAY, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE A HEAT SIGNATURE IN THE SHAPE OF A CHILD, BUT WE DIDN'T SEE ANYONE STANDING THERE THAT DAY.
Pearson: YEAH, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA.
WHEN I SAW THE THERMAL VIDEO, I WAS BLOWN AWAY BECAUSE IT WAS A WOODEN WALL.
THERE WAS NOTHING TO GENERATE THAT HEA OR TO CAUSE A FALSE IMPRESSION OF THAT ON THE THERMAL CAMERA.
Versace: WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE CAPTURED WAS LEGITIMATE, SO WE WENT BACK THERE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO RECAPTURE THAT.
NOTHING THAT WE DID WAS EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT WE CAUGH ON THAT THERMAL.
Pearson: A THERMAL CAMERA DOES NOT LIE.
WHETHER YOU INTERPRET IT PROPERLY OR NO IS ANOTHER ISSUE.
BUT I'M CONVINCED THA IT'S A TRUE REPRESENTATION OF AN ENTITY THAT WAS THERE.
Versace: WITH EVERYTHING THA WE EXPERIENCED THAT NIGHT -- THE THERMAL, THE SHADOW, THE LAUGHTER THE KNOCKING IN THE SCHOOLHOUSE [ KNOCKS .]
I HONESTLY BELIEVE, 100%, THAT PARANORMAL ACTIVITY IS ABUNDANT AT THE RED MILL.
Pearson: THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THERE IS SOMETHING BEYOND THE REALITY THAT WE EXPERIENCE EVERY DAY.
AND AFTER SEEING ALL OF KARRIE-ANN'S EVIDENCE, THAT WAS LIKE GETTING HIT OVER THE HEAD WITH A 2x4.
I DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD COME UP WITH ANY OTHER CONCLUSION.
THE PLACE IS HAUNTED.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
Jonas: THE REFLECTION IN THE MIRROR WAS A MAN WITH A CLOAKED WHITE HOOD ON.
Wales: I FELT THE SPIRITS WERE ANGRY.
Jonas: THE GOOSE BUMPS WENT FROM HEAD TO TOE.
Wales: THESE SPIRITS LIVE HERE, AND IT SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME.
Jonas: THE REFLECTION IN THE MIRROR WAS A MAN WITH A CLOAKED WHITE HOOD ON.
Wales: I FELT THE SPIRITS WERE ANGRY.
Jonas: THE GOOSE BUMPS WENT FROM HEAD TO TOE.
MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I VISITED THE GILPIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND JAIL.
CENTRAL CITY IS AN OLD MINING TOWN FROM THE 1800s.
BACK IN THE DAY, IT WAS WELL-KNOWN FOR MINING ACCIDENTS.
IT'S A GAMBLING TOWN NOW, SO IT'S STILL THE WILD WES BUT IN A NEW TIME.
THE COURTHOUSE IN GILPIN COUNTY WAS BUILT IN 1899 INTO 1900.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR TRADITIONAL THREE-STORY BRICK BUILDING.
THE FIRST TIME I MET JOSEY WAS DURING THE INVESTIGATION, AND I WAS TOLD THAT HE WAS THE MAN TO TALK TO BECAUSE HE KNEW THE MOS ABOUT THAT BUILDING.
Wales: I'VE WORKED THERE FOR 18 YEARS, SO IT'S ALMOST BEEN LIKE A SECOND HOME FOR ME, DOING BUILDING MAINTENANCE, FIXING THINGS.
THERE WAS ACTIVITY ON LITERALLY EVERY FLOOR.
THERE'S SPIRITS THERE THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT THERE FOR SOME REASON, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING OVER TO THE OTHER WORLD.
AND MAYBE THESE LADIES CAN HELP RELEASE THESE GHOSTS FROM THIS LIMBO THAT THEY'RE STAYING IN.
Jonas: DURING THE WALK-THROUGH, JOSEY TOOK US DOWN TO THE NOTORIOUS JAIL.
THE FEELING THAT YOU GE WHEN YOU WALK IN IS VERY CREEPY.
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE BEING WATCHED.
Wales: THE JAIL CELLS AT THE GILPIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE WERE BUIL OUT OF AN OLD BATTLESHIP.
THERE WAS TIMES I'D WALK INTO THE JAIL CELL AND I'D JUS GET GOOSE BUMPS ALL OVER.
Jonas: WE ALWAYS TAKE STILL SHOTS.
WE TOOK ONE OF JOSEY AND I IN FRONT OF THE ACTUAL CELL.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PHOTO, YOU WOULD THINK THAT IN THE MIRROR ITSELF, YOU'D SEE THE REFLECTION OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN FRONT OF IT, WHICH WAS MYSELF, JOSEY, AND MY TEAMMATE WHO WAS TAKING THE PICTURE.
THIS WAS NOT A REFLECTION OF US.
THE REFLECTION IN THE VERY BACK MIRROR WAS A MAN ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE STANDING AT A STANCE WITH A CLOAKED WHITE HOOD ON.
WHEN THEY USED TO HANG PEOPLE BACK IN THE DAY, THEY WOULD CLOAK THEM SO NO ONE COULD SEE THEIR FACE, AND THIS REFLECTION WAS ACTUALLY IN THAT MIRROR.
Wales: WHEN I LOOK A THE PICTURE OF THE MIRROR, I SEE A FACE, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE.
I'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO THAT MIRROR ALL THESE YEARS.
I WAS JUST DRAWN TO IT.
TODAY, WHEN I LOOK IN THAT MIRROR, I FEEL LIKE THE SPIRIT'S LOOKING BACK AT ME, AND IT SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME.
Jonas: USUALLY WITH OUR INVESTIGATIONS, WE ARE USUALLY LOCKED IN, SO WE ASKED JOSEY TO LEAVE.
Wales: IT DID WORRY ME THAT I WAS LEAVING THESE LADIES THERE ALONE BECAUSE WE KNEW SOMETHING WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
Jonas: SO WE DECIDED TO STAR THE ACTUAL INVESTIGATION IN ONE PART OF THE JAIL CELL, AND I WAS BASICALLY CHALLENGING THIS SPIRI SO WE COULD GE SOME KIND OF READINGS AND SOME KIND OF VALIDATION THA SOMETHING REALLY RESIDES THERE.
SO, WE WEREN'T GETTING ANYTHING.
WE DECIDED TO GO INTO THE CELL NEXT DOOR.
AT THAT POINT, SOME TYPE OF ENERGY CAME OFF THAT TOP BUNK AND JUMPED OUT AT MY TEAMMATE.
HER RESPONSE WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
Woman: [ GASPS .]
Jonas: I'VE NEVER SEEN HER RESPOND LIKE THIS, SO I WAS REALLY WORRIED.
Wales: YOU CAN TELL FROM THE REACTION -- I KNOW THESE LADIES NOW -- AND THEY DON' SCARE THAT EASILY.
Jonas: WE WERE SO STARTLED, BUT WE DECIDED TO GO AND TRY TO MAKE ONE LAST COMMUNICATION.
I WANTED TO GE AN EVP FROM THIS SPIRI TO SEE WHO WE WERE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH.
SO WHEN WE WALKED BACK IN, WE WERE TALKING ON THE OVILUS, AND THE WORD "WILL DIE" CAME OUT.
Wales: WHEN I SAW THAT VIDEO, I WAS AMAZED.
I FELT THE SPIRITS WERE ANGRY THAT THESE LADIES INVADED THEIR HOUSE.
Jonas: I DIDN'T WANT TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS A THREAT, WHEN IT SAID, "WILL DIE," BUT IT WASN'T A GOOD FEELING.
THE NEXT WORD WAS "BLOOD.
" DOWNSTAIRS IN THE JAIL, THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT HAS A DARK SIDE TO IT.
WHEN THOSE WORDS POPPED OUT OF THAT OVILUS, I KNEW IT WAS TIME TO GET OUT OF THERE.
WE LEFT THAT AREA, AND YOU COULD JUST FEEL IT BEHIND YOU.
IT BREATHED ON THE BACK OF MY NECK ALL THE WAY OUT.
IT WAS LIKE IT WAS RIGHT BEHIND ME ALL THE WAY OUT OF THE JAIL.
THEN WE WENT UPSTAIRS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE COMMUNICATION, AND WE ASKED THE SPIRIT, "GIVE US SOME SIGN THAT YOU'RE HERE.
" WE HEARD A DOOR BANG.
AND I HAD SAID, "WELL, MAYBE THAT'S JOSEY OUTSIDE.
" NOT A MINUTE AFTER WE SAID THAT, THE OVILUS SAID, "OUTSIDE.
" WHEN IT ACTUALLY SAID, "OUTSIDE," AND WE JUST SAID "OUTSIDE," IT'S VALIDATION THAT THEY CAN HEAR YOU.
Wales: TO ME, IT KIND OF PROVES THAT THEY KNOW WHO I AM.
I'M JUST NOT SOME GUY THAT WALKED OFF THE STREET.
THEY KNOW, "JOSEY, HE'S OUTSIDE.
" Jonas: WE FIND THA WHEN WE DO THE INVESTIGATION, WE KIND OF DRUM UP THE ENERGY, AND THEN, WHEN THEY FIND OUT WE'RE GONE, THAT'S WHEN THEY COME OUT.
WE DECIDED TO GO INTO THE COURTROOM AREA, AND WE SET UP A CAMERA SO WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE FURNITURE THAT WAS IN THE ROOM SINCE JOSEY HAD TOLD US THAT THE FURNITURE HAD MOVED MANY TIMES.
AND LATER ON, WHEN I SAW THA VIDEO, I SAID, "OH, MY GOSH.
WE ACTUALLY CAUGHT SOMETHING.
" THERE WAS NOBODY IN THAT BUILDING, SO WE WERE ACTUALLY SEEING THE ENERGY LIGHT UP THE SPIRITS AND THEM ZIPPING BY.
Wales: I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT UP THERE BEFORE, SO I WAS A BIT TAKEN BY THAT.
WHEN I SAW THAT VIDEO, THE GOOSE BUMPS WENT FROM HEAD TO TOE.
AFTER THIS INVESTIGATION, I WAS VERY HESITAN ABOUT EVER RETURNING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE COULD GAIN AN ATTACHMEN OF ALL SORTS OF EVIL THAT I DON'T WAN TO BRING HOME TO MY FAMILY.
Wales: THESE LADIES FOUND THA THE SPIRITS WANT TO BE THERE.
IT'S MY JOB TO WORK AT THE COURTHOUSE, AND THESE SPIRITS LIVE HERE.
I CAN QUIT TOMORROW, BUT I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT.
AND SO I JUST HAVE TO EMOTIONALLY BE PREPARED FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS.
James: WE FOUND MOUNT HOPE CEMETERY TO BE A CHALLENGE.
Debbie: ESPECIALLY HALLOWEEN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN THE SPIRITS ARE MOST ACTIVE.
James: WHAT WE CAPTURED WAS WAY BEYOND EXPLANATION.
IT WAS OBVIOUS THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON HERE IN THIS CEMETERY.
Debbie: I'M STILL GETTING CHILLS THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE.
James: WE FOUND MOUNT HOPE CEMETERY TO BE A CHALLENGE.
WHAT WE CAPTURED WAS WAY BEYOND EXPLANATION.
Debbie: I'M STILL GETTING CHILLS THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE.
James: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I VISITED MOUNT HOPE CEMETERY IN INDEPENDENCE, KANSAS.
I'VE BEEN A PARANORMAL ENTHUSIAS EVER SINCE I WAS ABOUT 6 YEARS OLD.
Debbie: MY HUSBAND, GYPSY, AND I ARE AVID RIDERS, AND WE JUST LIKE TO TRAVEL THE COUNTRYSIDE LOOKING FOR ANYTHING PARANORMAL, ESPECIALLY OUTSIDE.
WE FEEL LIKE WE GET MORE ACTIVITY OUTDOORS.
James: BUT WE DON'T GO TO THE USUAL PLACES.
YOU ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT ASYLUMS, THE PRISONS.
WE GO TO OBSCURE SPOTS.
WE GO TO SPOTS THAT ARE SO FAR OFF THE BEATEN TRACK THAT NOBODY EVEN KNOWS THEY EXIST UNTIL WE FIND THEM.
Debbie: WE LIKE TO TRAVEL TO DIFFERENT CEMETERIES, ESPECIALLY HALLOWEEN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN THE SPIRITS ARE MOST ACTIVE.
James: WE FOUND MOUNT HOPE CEMETERY TO BE A CHALLENGE.
IT IS SO LARGE THAT THE THOUGH OF MAYBE CAPTURING SOMETHING THERE WAS FOREMOST IN OUR MIND WHEN WE WENT THERE.
Debbie: THE CEMETERY'S REALLY PRETTY DARK.
James: YOU GO INTO THE CEMETERY AND IT'S IMMEDIATELY MIDNIGHT.
Debbie: JUST REAL EERIE.
James: THERE ARE SEVERAL GATES THAT ENTER IN THE CEMETERY.
WE WALKED THROUGH ONE OF THE SIDE GATES TO GET IN THERE.
WE STARTED UP THIS ONE PATH THAT LEADS TOWARDS THE MAINTENANCE SHED, AND AS WE APPROACH THIS MAINTENANCE SHED, THERE'S A STREETLIGHT THAT'S UP ON THE SIDE OF THE SHED, GIVING ILLUMINATION IN THAT AREA, AND IT WAS ON.
AS WE APPROACHED IT, IT WENT OFF.
NO BIG THING -- COULD BE A SHORT.
WE BACKED OFF, THE LIGHT CAME BACK ON AGAIN.
THIS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES -- BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.
Debbie: I TOLD MY HUSBAND, I SAID, "I DON'T FEEL GOOD.
I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THIS AREA," AND HE AGREED, SO WE WEN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
James: WE DECIDED TO GO DOWN A DIFFERENT PATH, AND THE ROAD FORKS AT THAT PATH.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, TEMPERATURE JUST DROPPED.
IT WENT DOWN TO NOTHING.
I MEAN, YOU COULD SEE MY BREATH.
DEBBIE JUST KIND OF LOOKED AT ME AND SHE SAID, "WHAT IN THE WORLD?" IT WAS OBVIOUS THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON HERE IN THIS CEMETERY.
WE DECIDED IT WAS A GOOD TIME TO START TAKING PHOTOS.
Debbie: THERE WAS A PICTURE OF A WOMAN COMING OUT OF AN ORB WITH HER HAIR FLYING BACK BEHIND HER HEAD.
AND SHE'S OVER A GRAVE STONE.
James: FACE IS THERE, AND SHE IS FLOWING OUT OF THE ORB.
SHE'S PULLING HERSELF OUT OF THAT ORB.
Debbie: IN THIS VERY SAME PHOTOGRAPH, THERE WAS A SIGNATURE ORB THAT FOLLOWED US ALL AROUND THE CEMETERY.
YOU COULD TELL IT WAS THE SAME ORB BECAUSE THERE WAS A LITTLE DO UP IN THE TOP LEFT SIDE OF I THAT WAS VERY DISTINC SO YOU KNEW IT WAS THE SAME ORB.
James: THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN FRONT OF US THAT, AT THE TIME, WE CANNO WITH OUR EYES PHYSICALLY SEE BUT OUR CAMERA LENS PICKED UP.
WOW! LOOK WHAT WE GOT.
Debbie: WE COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
James: WE HEADED BACK DOWN THE MAIN PATHWAY.
I SNAPPED A PHOTO BACK UP THE PATH.
THERE WAS A YELLOWISH-COLOR ORB IN THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.
Debbie: IT WAS OF A SINISTER-LOOKING MAN, AND HE JUST HAD THIS LOOK.
James: BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAPTURED IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH.
WE CAUGHT A FULL-BODY APPARITION OF A LITTLE GIRL STANDING DEAD CENTER OF THE ROAD.
SHE'S WEARING A LONG NIGHTGOWN.
YOU CAN SEE HER BANGS OF HER HAIR.
HER FACIAL FEATURES WERE KIND OF BLANK.
THERE'S NO EXPRESSION THAT YOU CAN MAKE OUT, BUT HER EYES ARE REAL HOLLOW.
Debbie: AND SHE JUST LOOKED FORLORN AND SAD LIKE SHE HAD NOWHERE TO GO.
James: LIKE A LITTLE CHILD THAT'S CRYING, YOU WANT TO GO UP AND HUG HER, TELL HER IT'S GONNA BE OKAY.
IT'S GONNA BE ALL RIGHT.
Debbie: WE DECIDED TO SET UP A VIDEO CAMERA.
James: IN THE PROCESS OF SETTING UP THE VIDEO CAMERA, I WAS TAKING SOME MORE PICTURES.
TAKE THE FIRST PHOTO.
THERE'S NO MIST, NOTHING.
WE TAKE THE SECOND PHOTO.
WE HAVE THIS MIS FLOATING ACROSS THE SCREEN.
WE WERE SHOCKED BECAUSE I WAS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF US.
SO WE GET THE CAMERA ROLLING, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THERE'S THISACROSS THE LENS.
IT'S A BIG, WHITE OBJECT ACROSS THE LENS.
WHEN WE WENT BACK LATER AND WE LOOKED AT IT FRAME BY FRAME WE WERE LIKE, "WHA IN THE WORLD JUST HAPPENED? WHAT WAS THAT?" Debbie: AFTER WE GOT THIS, WE TURNED ON OUR DIGITAL RECORDER.
WE WERE NEAR THE WILLIAM INGE GRAVE SITE -- THE FAMOUS PLAYWRIGHT.
James: HE DIED A VIOLENT DEATH.
WE ASKED THE TYPICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D ASK DURING AN EVP SESSION.
Debbie: DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? James: OUR EVP PICKED UP "YES.
" Debbie: I'M STILL GETTING CHILLS THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE.
WE THINK THAT THE FEMALE VOICE MIGHT BE ONE OF WILLIAM INGE'S RELATIVES.
HIS MOTHER AND HIS SISTER ARE BOTH BURIED THERE WITH HIM.
James: EVERYONE THEY KNOW HAS PASSED AWAY.
THERE IS NO MORE INGE FAMILY IN INDEPENDENCE.
THEY'RE GONE.
SO THERE WOULD BE REALLY NO ONE THAT THE ENTITY COULD SPEAK TO AT THAT TIME.
Debbie: WE WERE PRETTY NEAR THE END OF OUR INVESTIGATION, AND WE THOUGHT, "WE'LL JUS START CLICKING MORE PICTURES AND SEE WHAT WE GET.
" [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS .]
James: WHAT WE CAPTURED WAS WAY BEYOND EXPLANATION.
IN THIS ONE PHOTO, UP AGAINST THIS TREE, IS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A GHOST OF AN INSECT.
Debbie: THERE WAS NO COLOR, NO ANYTHING.
IT WAS JUST SOLID WHITE.
James: WHEN YOU SNAP A PICTURE OF A BUG, IT'S BLURRED 'CAUSE THEY ARE MOVING PRETTY FAST.
THIS IS SOLID.
Debbie: THE INSECT, BASED ON PROPORTION, WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE 18 INCHES ACROSS TO BE UP THERE AND BE WHAT WE SAW.
James: WE CALLED IT THE GHOST MOTH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO DESCRIBE IT.
Debbie: AFTER WE CAUGHT THIS, WE WERE DONE WITH THE INVESTIGATION.
WHILE WE WERE WALKING OUT OF THE GATE James: I LOOKED AT HER AND I SAID, "DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING FOLLOWED?" I HAD THE CAMERA SITTING IN FRONT OF ME.
I SPUN AROUND AND SNAP.
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS .]
Debbie: AND THERE'S AN ORB RIGHT THERE, FOLLOWING US OUT.
James: THERE WERE NO FOOTSTEPS, BUT IT'S THAT FEELING THAT SOMETHING OR SOMEONE'S LOOKING DEAD AT THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD AS YOU'RE WALKING AWAY.
Debbie: WE DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS A GUARDIAN AND THAT'S WHY HE WAS ALL OVER THE CEMETERY OR IF HE WAS TELLING US TO GO.
James: BUT THIS ONE JUST MADE THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF MY NECK STAND UP.
WE HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A CEMETERY THAT WAS ACTIVE AS MOUNT HOPE WAS.
THERE WAS SO MUCH FLYING AROUND IN THE AIR THAT NIGHT, IT WAS REALLY HARD TO NAIL DOWN EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS THAT WAS HAPPENING.
IT'S CAUSED US TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFEREN AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CEMETERY.
Debbie: THERE WERE JUST A LO OF DIFFERENT SPIRITS THERE, AND YOU JUST HAVE TO HOPE THAT YOU DON'T RUN ACROSS THE WRONG ONES.
James: WE NOW ARE A LITTLE MORE RESPECTFUL OF HOW MUCH ACTIVITY CAN OCCUR ON A HALLOWEEN NIGHT.
THE SPIRITS WERE DEFINITELY WALKING THE EARTH THAT HALLOWEEN NIGHT.
THEY WERE OUT THERE, AND THEY WERE OUT THERE IN FORCE.
Ovadal: I WOULD GO DOWN IN THE BASEMENT, AND I ALWAYS FEL LIKE SOMEBODY WAS BEHIND ME.
MY SECOND HUSBAND TOLD ME THAT A SPIRIT, LIKE A BLACK MIST, HAD CHASED HIM UP THE STAIRS.
Leder: WHAT IS IN THAT CLOSET? HE GOES, "YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.
" Ovadal: I ALWAYS FEL LIKE SOMEBODY WAS BEHIND ME.
A SPIRI HAD CHASED HIM UP THE STAIRS.
Leder: WHAT IS IN THAT CLOSET? HE GOES, "YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.
" Ovadal: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN THE SPIRI OF MY FIRST HUSBAND STARTED TO HAUNT OUR HOME.
I LIVE IN IXONIA, WISCONSIN, WITH MY SECOND HUSBAND AND MY FOUR CHILDREN.
DALE WAS MY FIRST HUSBAND.
WE MARRIED IN '97.
HE WAS A VERY KIND PERSON.
HE HAD A PURE SOUL.
HE SORT OF STARTED CHANGING A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN OUR MARRIAGE, AND THINGS WEREN'T GOING VERY WELL FOR HIM, AND HE ENDED UP TAKING HIS OWN LIFE IN 2006.
IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY SAD TIME FOR ALL OF US.
WHEN DALE PASSED AWAY, STRANGE THINGS STARTED TO HAPPEN IN MY HOUSE.
A LOT OF TIMES AT NIGHT, FEELS LIKE SOMEBODY CRAWLED INTO BED WITH ME 'CAUSE MY COVERS WILL LIFT, AND IT'S NOT MY CAT, AND MY HUSBAND IS ASLEEP, AND THE HOUSE IS QUIET.
MY SON MASON SAID THA HE WOULD SEE A FIGURE STAND AT THE END OF HIS BED.
HE WAS OFTEN TERRIFIED AND WOULD WANT TO COME UPSTAIRS AND SLEEP WITH ME.
AND I WOULD GO DOWN TO THE BASEMENT, AND IT WAS REALLY HEAVY WITH A LOT OF NEGATIVE EMOTION.
I ALWAYS FELT LIKE SOMEBODY WAS RIGHT NEXT TO ME OR BEHIND ME.
ANOTHER STRANGE THING THAT HAPPENED -- MY SECOND HUSBAND TOLD ME THA A SPIRIT, LIKE A BLACK MIST -- HAD CHASED HIM UP THE STAIRS.
HE WAS TERRIFIED, AND THAT ABSOLUTELY STUNNED ME.
NADINE IS THE LEADER OF ONE OF THE PARANORMAL GROUPS IN MY STATE, AND I DECIDED TO CONTACT HER BECAUSE I JUST WANTED THE HEAVY NEGATIVITY OUT OF THE HOUSE.
AND IT WAS REALLY HARD TO LIVE WITH.
Leder: WALKING INTO THAT HOUSE, YOU COULD DEFINITELY TELL AN ENERGY CHANGE.
MY HAIR WAS ON END, THE AIR INSIDE THE HOME WAS A LOT HEAVIER THAN NORMAL.
DEFINITELY GOT A SENSATION THAT WE WERE NOT ALONE.
WE FIRST DECIDED TO TAKE SOME PHOTOS.
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS .]
WE FOCUSED ON ROOMS WHERE THE HEAVIER ACTIVITY WAS HAPPENING.
WE DID UNCOVER SEVERAL PHOTOGRAPHS THAT HAD ORBS.
TO ME, THAT SIGNIFIED THAT, YES, WHAT WE WERE FEELING, THAT THERE WERE SPIRITS IN HERE, IS ACTUALLY TRUE.
WHEN WE START AN EVP SESSION IN A CLIENT'S HOME, WE USE A PARABOLIC DISH.
WE HAVE AUDIO RECORDING CONSTANTLY THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S ON THE DISH OR WE ALSO USE HANDHELD VOICE RECORDERS TO CAPTURE OUR MOVEMEN AS WE WALK FROM ROOM TO ROOM.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED WAS, "ARE THERE ANY SPIRITS WITH US TONIGHT?" WE IMMEDIATELY GOT A RESPONSE.
WHEN YOU HEAR THAT ON AUDIO, IT JUST FREAKS YOU OUT.
IT'S LIKE, "OH, MY GOSH.
THAT WASN'T ONE OF US.
" WE ASKED THE QUESTION, "ARE YOU DALE?" Ovadal: WHEN I HEARD THAT EVP, I WAS EXCITED AND KIND OF SAD ALL AT THE SAME TIME THAT HE WAS STILL HERE.
Leder: WE UNCOVERED SEVERAL OTHER EVPs CAUGHT IN AMANDA'S BEDROOM.
Ovadal: WHEN I HEARD THE EVP "I SEE YOU IN YOUR BEDROOM," THAT WAS REALLY SCARY.
IT'S JUST WEIRD TO THINK THAT SOMEBODY'S SITTING THERE AND WATCHING YOU AND I CAN FEEL THEM BUT CAN'T SEE THEM.
Leder: DALE, IF YOU'RE HERE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY TO AMANDA? Ovadal: WHEN I HEARD DALE SAYING, "I STILL HOLD YOU," THAT WAS PRETTY ENDEARING TO ME TO THINK THAT HE WOULD STILL WAN TO HOLD ME IN THE AFTERLIFE.
ALMOST MOVED ME TO TEARS WHEN I HEARD IT.
WHEN WE HEARD "TELL THEM YOU WATCH THEM," THAT WAS LIKE A WARNING.
Leder: IT WAS INTERPRETED BY US THAT DALE WAS WATCHING OUT FOR HER, LETTING HER KNOW THA IT WASN'T JUST HIM AROUND HER IN THE HOUSE, THAT SHE DID HAVE SIGNIFICANT SPIRITS TRYING TO HAUNT HER.
Ovadal: I WAS ACTUALLY VERY TERRIFIED TO THINK THAT THERE WERE OTHER SPIRITS IN THE HOUSE AND SCARED OF WHAT, MAYBE, THEY COULD DO.
Leder: WE DECIDED TO GO DOWN INTO THE BASEMEN AND FOCUS ON THE SON'S BEDROOM.
INSIDE HIS BEDROOM, HE'S GO THIS REALLY CREEPY CRAWL SPACE.
OUR GROUP WORKS WITH A PSYCHIC, AND HE WAS OVERWHELMED AS SOON AS HE WALKED INTO THIS CRAWL SPACE.
HE GOES, "ALL I CAN SEE IS PEOPLE WALKING BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH THROUGH THIS ROOM.
" WE'RE CONVINCED THAT I HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE LAND.
WHERE THIS HOUSE IS LOCATED WAS AN OLD PIONEER AND INDIAN AREA.
IT STUNNED US 'CAUSE WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS MUCH ACTIVITY WAS GOING ON IN THE HOUSE.
Ovadal: THAT'S CRAZY TO THINK HOW MANY GHOSTS COULD BE TRAVELING THROUGH MY HOUSE AT ANY ONE TIME.
Leder: WHILE WE WERE IN THE BASEMENT, I JUST GO THIS INCREDIBLY COLD CHILL.
MY HAIR WAS STANDING UP ON END.
AND I COULD FEEL A STRONG ENERGY SITTING NEXT TO ME, AND IT WAS NOT FRIENDLY.
IT WAS MORE LIKE ANGRY ENERGY.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT ENTITY RESIDING DOWN IN THE BASEMENT HERE? WHEN WE REVIEW SOME OF OUR VIDEO, I HAD A NICE ORB RIGHT NEXT TO ME ON THE COUCH, RIGHT WHERE I HAD THE SENSATION.
BASED ON SOME OF THE OTHER EVIDENCE WE WERE CAPTURING, WE CONCLUDED THA THIS ENERGY AND ORB ACTIVITY WAS LIKE AN ANGRY MAN THAT WAS RESIDING IN HER HOME.
Ovadal: WELL, NEXT, WE WEN UP INTO MY DAUGHTER'S BEDROOM.
SHE HAD COMPLAINED OF ALSO SEEING A FIGURE, BUT IN HER CLOSET.
SHE WOULD NOT SLEEP IN HER ROOM BECAUSE SHE WAS SCARED OF IT.
Leder: THE ENERGY IN THAT ROOM WAS SO STRONG, AND IT WAS INCREDIBLY COLD.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, HERE COMES THE CAT.
SAT RIGHT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE CLOSET, WOULD NOT MOVE.
JUST STARED AT THE DOOR.
SO I LOOKED AT OUR PSYCHIC FRIEND WITH THE GROUP, AND I'M LIKE, "WHAT IS IN THAT CLOSET?" HE GOES, "YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.
WE HAVE A VERY STUBBORN MALE SPIRIT RESIDING IN THERE.
" WITH AMANDA'S APPROVAL, WE DECIDED TO DO A CROSSING-OVER CEREMONY TO RID HER HOUSE OF THIS ENTITY.
I DECIDED TO CRAWL INTO THE CLOSET.
I USE A PENDULUM.
I CAN COMMUNICATE THAT WAY AND GET A VISUAL.
Ovadal: SHE WAS VERY DETERMINED TO GET THAT GHOST OUT.
Leder: WHAT I DO IS I FOCUS ON A BIG BALL OF LIGHT, AND I ASK THE SPIRI TO WALK INTO IT.
WHEN I DID THIS, IT ACTUALLY FELT LIKE A HUGE ENERGY RUSH THROUGH YOUR BODY, AND THAT SIGNIFIED TO US THAT THE SPIRIT DID MOVE ON.
Ovadal: THE ROOM SEEMED WARMER.
PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE HAPPIER.
IT SEEMED LIKE PEOPLE WERE KIND OF LAUGHING AND SAYING, "I'M GLAD THE GHOST IS OUT.
" I THINK THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN JUST A GREA LEARNING EXPERIENCE, AND NOW THINGS THAT I SENSE OR SEE IN THE FUTURE WON'T SCARE ME AS MUCH.
I DO STILL ENCOUNTER DALE'S SPIRIT.
SOMETIMES HE'LL MAKE HIMSELF ABLE TO BE SEEN, AND OTHER TIMES, IT'S MORE OF A FEELING.
MY SON MASON IS NO LONGER AFRAID TO SLEEP IN HIS BED.
AND AT NIGHT, WHEN HE SEES THE APPARITION THAT IS HIS FATHER, HE ALWAYS SAYS, "GOOD NIGHT, DAD.
" MY CURRENT HUSBAND FEELS LIKE HE HAS TO COMPETE WITH THE GHOST, IS THE WAY THAT HE'S PUT IT, BUT I ALWAYS TELL HIM HE DOESN'T HAVE TO COMPETE.
THE SPIRIT OF DALE WATCHING OVER ME IS COMFORTING, AND IT'S KIND OF NICE TO HAVE HIM AROUND A LITTLE BI AND THAT HE'S NOT TOTALLY GONE.
Dennis: ALL OF A SUDDEN, SHE JUST SAID, "I THINK SOMEBODY DIED UP HERE.
" Dexter: AND I HAPPENED TO GLANCE IN MY REARVIEW, AND I SEEN A MAN SITTING IN THE BACKSEAT OF MY CAR.
I TOOK SOME PICTURES.
THEY WERE HIS RELATIVES THAT HAD COME TO TAKE HIM TO THE OTHER SIDE.
Dexter: I SEEN A MAN SITTING IN THE BACKSEAT OF MY CAR.
I TOOK SOME PICTURES.
THEY WERE HIS RELATIVES THAT HAD COME TO TAKE HIM TO THE OTHER SIDE.
MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I CAME UPON A CAR ACCIDEN IN LONDON, ONTARIO.
AS A YOUNG CHILD, I REALIZED I HAD THE ABILITY TO SEE GHOSTS AND SPIRITS.
BOTH ME AND MY SISTER HAVE THE ABILITY TO FEEL AND SENSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULDN'T NORMALLY NOTICE.
Dennis: THE PSYCHIC ABILITY THAT MY SISTER AND I SHARE PRESENTS ITSELF AS A REAL COMMON BOND BETWEEN US.
I GREW UP SEEING SPIRITS FROM THE TIME I WAS IN MY CRIB, AND I KNOW BARB HAS ALWAYS SEEN THEM, TOO.
Dexter: ENTITIES WOULD PASS THROUGH THE HOUSE AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
ONE TIME, WHEN I WAS PUT TO BED, SOMETHING WAS WALKING IN MY BEDROOM.
I KNEW IT WASN'T ANYBODY IN MY FAMILY.
SO I'D PULL THE COVERS OVER MY HEAD.
WHOEVER IT WAS PULLED THE COVERS BACK.
AND I WAS JUST TERRIFIED AS A CHILD AND KEPT YELLING FOR MY PARENTS TO COME.
THEY WOULD COME INTO THE ROOM AND SEE NOTHING AND SAY, "GET BACK TO BED.
GO TO SLEEP.
" WITHIN FIVE MINUTES OF THEM LEAVING, THIS PERSON WOULD APPEAR AGAIN.
IT WAS VERY SCARY.
THE DAY OF THE ACCIDENT, I WAS LEAVING A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT.
SOMETHING HAD COME OVER ME THAT SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT, AND I DECIDED I SHOULD CALL MY SISTER.
[ Dialing .]
Dennis: ALL OF A SUDDEN, SHE JUST SAID, "I THINK SOMEBODY DIED UP HERE.
" AND SHE HUNG UP ON ME.
[ Dial tone .]
I JUST LIKE, "WHAT IS SHE TALKING ABOUT?" Dexter: AFTER ABOUT MAYBE 500 METERS, THE CARS IN FRONT OF ME HAD STARTED TO PUT ON THEIR BRAKES AND WERE STOPPING.
AND I REALLY COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING, AND THEN THE CLOSER I GOT, THE MORE I REALIZED THAT THERE MUST BE AN ACCIDENT.
I FELT COMPELLED TO KEEP GOING FORWARD.
PRETTY SOON, I WAS THE FIRST CAR IN FRONT OF THE ACCIDENT, AND I COULD SEE THAT IT HAD JUST HAPPENED.
NOBODY HAD EVEN GOT OUT OF THE VEHICLES YET.
THERE WERE A FEW OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE STANDING AROUND THE ACCIDENT SCENE.
I THOUGHT, "WELL, MAYBE I SHOULD GET OU AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING I COULD DO TO HELP.
" THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN STANDING IN FRONT OF THE PASSENGER DOOR, AND HE SAID, "PLEASE DON'T COME ANY CLOSER.
YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE.
" HE SAID, "THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.
THIS GENTLEMAN HAS PASSED.
" I WAS STUNNED.
I'D HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE YELL FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE ACCIDENT SCENE THAT THEY HAD CALLED 911, SO I FOCUSED MY ATTENTION ON THE OTHER VEHICLE, AND THE GENTLEMAN WAS JUST GETTING OUT OF THAT CAR.
YOU COULD TELL HE WAS IN SHOCK, VERY CONFUSED, A LITTLE DAZED.
JUST CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
FOR SOME REASON, I HAD A WEIRD FEELING TO TAKE PICTURES WITH MY PHONE.
NORMALLY, I WOULD NEVER DO THAT.
I DON'T LIKE TO THRIVE ON DESPAIR.
BUT I COULD NOT CONTROL MYSELF.
FOR SOME REASON, I KNEW THA I NEEDED TO TAKE THOSE PICTURES.
THE AMBULANCES DID ARRIVE, AND PEOPLE RAN TO THE CAR OF THE MAN WHO WE PRESUMED WAS PASSED AWAY.
SOME OF THEM COME AND TALK TO THE MAN WITH ME, AND THEY TOOK HIM INTO ANOTHER AMBULANCE.
I SAT IN THE CAR AND JUS THOUGHT, "THAT'S JUST SO SAD.
" ALL OF A SUDDEN, I GOT THIS VERY WEIRD FEELING, LIKE A CHILL THAT WENT RIGHT UP MY SPINE.
AND I HAPPEN TO GLANCE IN MY REARVIEW, AND I SEEN A MAN SITTING IN THE BACKSEAT OF MY CAR.
AND I SAID, "ARE YOU OKAY? DO YOU NEED HELP?" AND THEN THAT'S WHEN I NOTICED THAT HE WASN' REALLY A PHYSICAL HUMAN.
HE WAS MORE OR LESS A SPIRIT.
HE WAS ALMOST TRANSLUCENT.
HE JUST STARED AT THE ACCIDENT SCENE, OF THEM WORKING, TRYING TO GE THIS MAN OUT OF THIS OTHER CAR.
IT WAS LIKE HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I WAS THERE.
I BELIEVE IT WAS THE SPIRI OF THE MAN THAT WAS IN THE CAR, THE MAN THAT HAD PASSED AWAY.
HE MUST HAVE FIGURED THAT I WAS A GOOD PLACE TO GO FOR HELP.
AT FIRST, I WAS VERY SCARED.
[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER .]
THE POLICE OFFICER AT THE SCENE ASKED IF I WOULD COME AND GIVE A STATEMENT.
I DIDN'T WAN TO SAY TO THE POLICEMAN, "DO YOU SEE THE GUY IN THE BACKSEAT OF MY CAR?" I JUS KIND OF KEPT MY MOUTH SHU AND DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE A WEIRD PSYCHO WOMAN.
WHEN I GOT IN THE POLICE CAR, I KEPT LOOKING IN MY CAR TO SEE IF THAT GENTLEMAN WAS STILL THERE.
I COULD FEEL LIKE HE WAS STILL THERE, BUT I COULDN'T SEE HIM.
I THOUGHT, "WELL, I BETTER CALL MY SISTER BACK AND LET HER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
" [ TELEPHONE RINGS .]
Dennis: HELLO? SHE SAID, "SOMEONE HAD DIED IN THE ACCIDENT.
" I TOLD HER THA THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID TO ME BEFORE SHE HUNG UP THE PHONE.
SHE HAD KNOWN WHAT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE SHE EVEN GOT TO THE ACCIDENT.
Dexter: I SAID, "AND HE WAS IN MY CAR," AND SHE SAID, "HE'S STILL IN YOUR CAR.
" Dennis: AND SO SHE LOOKED IN THE BACK OF HER CAR.
Dexter: HE WAS THERE AGAIN.
Dennis: THEN SHE IMMEDIATELY HUNG UP ON ME AGAIN.
Dexter: HE WAS IN MY BACKSEA WITH THE SAME GLAZED LOOK.
Dennis: THIS SPIRIT WAS LOST, DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
I THINK THIS SPIRIT GOT IN HER CAR BECAUSE SHE OFFERED HELP.
Dexter: ME AND MY SISTER HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONNECTED, BUT FOR HER TO KNOW THAT HE WAS STILL IN THE CAR KIND OF SHOCKED ME.
WHEN I GOT HOME, I WAS PRETTY EXHAUSTED AND PRETTY STRESSED.
I THOUGHT, "WELL, I SHOULD DOWNLOAD THOSE PICTURES.
" AS I WAS DOING THAT, I COULD FEEL THAT SAME FEELING, LIKE HE WAS THERE AGAIN.
AND I STARTED TO NOTICE THAT THERE WAS THESE TWO SHADOW FIGURES ON THE BARRIER WALL OF THE ACCIDENT SCENE.
IT WAS VERY SHOCKING AT FIRS AND VERY EERIE TO SEE WHAT I HAD CAPTURED.
Dennis: LATER THAT EVENING, I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM BARB WITH THE PHOTOS ATTACHED, AND I WAS JUST IN SHOCK.
I KNEW THAT WE NEEDED TO SORT OF FIGURE OU WHAT THIS STORY WAS ABOU AND WHY WE'RE SEEING THESE TWO PEOPLE.
Dexter: I KNEW INSTANTLY THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PARANORMAL, THAT IT WASN'T JUST SHADOWS.
I FEEL THAT THEY WERE HIS RELATIVES OR SOMEBODY THAT HAD COME TO HELP HIM TO TAKE HIM TO THE OTHER SIDE.
Dennis: I JUST FELT THIS SORT OF HEAVY FEELING IN MY HEART.
WE DECIDED TO MAKE A VIDEO OF THE STORY.
WE HAD PROPPED THE CAMERA UP, AND WE WERE THE ONLY TWO PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
Dexter: WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STORY, JUST DESCRIBING HOW IT HAPPENED, AND WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW PEOPLE THE PICTURES, THAT WE WERE TELLING THE TRUTH.
SO I GOT OUT AND APPROACHED THE CAR THAT WAS CLOSEST TO ME.
WE GOT TO THE POINT OF THE STORY WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOU THE GENTLEMAN GETTING INTO MY CAR, AND WE DIDN'T NOTICE ANYTHING WHILE WE WERE FILMING IT.
BUT IT WAS AFTER THAT WE SEEN THAT THE CAMERA HAD MOVED RIGHT AT THE EXACT POIN OF WHEN WE HAD MENTIONED THA THE GENTLEMAN HAD GOT IN MY CAR.
IT MOVED AND THEN CORRECTED ITSELF BACK.
WE FOUND THAT VERY STRANGE.
HE'S STILL AROUND.
Dennis: IT WAS CONFIRMATION TO US THAT THE SPIRIT WAS STILL HERE.
Dexter: I THINK HE HAS A STORY HE WANTS TO TELL.
I DON'T KNOW WHY HE'S CHOSEN ME, OTHER THAN MAYBE I OFFERED TO HELP AT THE SCENE.
Dennis: I FEEL THE SPIRIT BONDED WITH HER AND THEN PROMPTED HER TO CONTINUE ON WITH TELLING THE STORY.
Dexter: AND IT HAS MADE ME RETHINK A LOT OF THINGS IN LIFE, LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE.
Woman: [ GASPS .]
IT WAS RIGHT BEHIND ME ALL THE WAY OUT OF THE JAIL.
I KNEW IT WAS TIME TO GET OUT OF THERE.
James: I SPUN AROUND AND SNAPPED.
Debbie: THERE'S AN ORB FOLLOWING US OUT.
James: THERE WERE NO FOOTSTEPS, BUT IT'S THAT FEELING THAT SOMETHING'S LOOKING DEAD AT THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD AS YOU'RE WALKING AWAY.
Debbie: I'M STILL GETTING CHILLS THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE.
Dexter: I GOT THIS WEIRD FEELING.
I HAPPENED TO GLANCE IN MY REARVIEW, AND I SEEN A MAN SITTING IN THE BACKSEAT OF MY CAR.
I SAID, "ARE YOU OKAY? DO YOU NEED HELP?" THAT'S WHEN I NOTICED HE WASN'T HUMAN.
HE WAS A SPIRIT.
Leder: WHAT WE WERE FEELING, THAT THERE WERE SPIRITS IN HERE, IS ACTUALLY TRUE.
THIS ORB ACTIVITY WAS AN ANGRY MAN RESIDING IN HER HOME.
Ovadal: I CAN FEEL THEM BUT CAN'T SEE THEM.
THAT ABSOLUTELY STUNNED ME.
Versace: TO THINK THAT SOMETHING WAS WATCHING US WAS CREEPY.
Pearson: AN ENTITY WAS THERE.
MADE MY BLOOD RUN COLD.
IT WILL HAUNT ME FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
Versace: THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THERE WITH US.
Pearson: AN ENTITY WAS THERE.
IT WILL HAUNT ME FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
Versace: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I VISITED THE RED MILL MUSEUM IN CLINTON, NEW JERSEY.
THE RED MILL IS VERY APPEALING TO THE EYE, AND I HEARD SOME CRAZY CLAIMS, SO I WANTED TO GO DOWN THERE TO INVESTIGATE WITH MY FRIEND JANE AND ANOTHER WOMAN, LAUREN, AND SEE IF THESE CLAIMS OF PARANORMAL ACTIVITY ACTUALLY EXISTED.
BRUCE PEARSON, WHO IS THE TRUSTEE AT THE RED MILL, TOOK US ON A WALK-THROUGH.
WE TOOK PROBABLY A GOOD HOUR AND A HALF WALKING THROUGH THE PLACE, LEARNING ITS HISTORY.
Pearson: THE RED MILL MUSEUM VILLAGE IS A 200-YEAR-OLD, 10-ACRE INDUSTRIAL SITE WHICH HAS A NUMBER OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS ON IT.
THERE ARE TWO ACTIVE LIMESTONE QUARRIES THAT WERE MINED ON THE PROPERTY.
THE CRUSHER BUILDING, AN AUTHENTIC SCHOOLHOUSE, AND A REVOLUTIONARY WAR FRONTIER CABIN, AS WELL AS THE MILL ITSELF.
IT PROCESSED EVERYTHING FROM GRAIN TO FLAX TO GRAPHITE.
THEY WERE RUNNING VERY POWERFUL MACHINERY, SO IT WAS A VERY TOUGH AND DANGEROUS PLACE TO WORK.
AT A HIGH SPEED, YOU COULD GET A SHIRT OR AN ARM CAUGHT.
IT WOULD RIP YOUR ARM RIGHT OFF.
THERE WERE NUMEROUS INJURIES, AS WELL AS NUMEROUS DEATHS ON THE PROPERTY.
Versace: THE HISTORY OF DEATHS AND TRAGEDY REALLY MAKE THE MILL VERY CONDUCIVE TO PARANORMAL ACTIVITY.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE DO WHILE WE'RE ON A WALK-THROUGH IS WE TAKE BASELINE READINGS SO THAT WE KNEW EXACTLY WHERE TO SET UP FOR OUR INVESTIGATION.
WE'LL HAVE A DIGITAL RECORDER GOING.
WE'LL HAVE OUR EMF DETECTORS.
ONE OF OUR FAVORITE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IS OUR THERMAL CAMERA.
WE ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO DECIPHER WHERE THERE'S COLD SPOTS AND WHERE THERE'S HEAT SIGNATURES.
Pearson: HAVING SPEN FOUR OR FIVE YEARS IN THE MUSEUM ON THESE TOURS, MANY PEOPLE HAVE COME TO ME AND SAID, "HEY, THE PLACE IS HAUNTED.
" I'M AN OPEN-MINDED SKEPTIC, SO I LISTENED.
THEN, WEEK AFTER WEEK, A PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE STARTED TO ADD UP.
THE VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF HAD PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.
ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING EXPERIENCES I'VE EVER HAD TOOK PLACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE MILL.
I WAS LOCKING EVERYTHING UP.
I GOT TO THE SECOND FLOOR, AND THE MOST GOD-AWFUL, MOURNFUL MAN'S MOANING VOICE CAME OU SO LOUD FROM THAT FLOOR.
PROBABLY LASTED A GOOD 6 OR 7 SECONDS.
WHEN IT STOPPED, IT ECHOED THROUGH THE BUILDING.
MADE MY BLOOD RUN COLD.
I WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FOURTH FLOOR AND WALKED EVERY INCH OF THE BUILDING AGAIN.
THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE BUILDING.
THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS IN THERE.
THERE WAS NO WAY FOR ANYONE TO MAKE THAT KIND OF SOUND, NOR DID IT COME FROM OUTSIDE.
I'VE WORKED AS A FIRST RESPONDER, AS AN EMT, ON THE RESCUE SQUAD AND IN THE MILITARY.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING AS SHOCKING TO ME OR AS TERRIFYING THAN THE VOICE OF THIS MAN MOANING.
THE TERROR THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL HAD TO BE FACING, IT JUST -- IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL HAUN ME FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
BUT IT WAS TRULY A LIFE-CHANGING EXPERIENCE BECAUSE, FROM THAT MOMENT ON, I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THE RED MILL IS HAUNTED.
Versace: WE REALLY WANTED TO START OUR INVESTIGATION IN THE RED MILL BECAUSE MOST OF THE CLAIMS OF PARANORMAL ACTIVITY TOOK PLACE AT THAT LOCATION.
THERE WAS TWO ALLEGED DEATHS ON THE FOURTH FLOOR.
ONE WAS A BOY FOUND HUNG IN THE RAFTERS.
HE WAS A BIT OF A WISE-ASS, AND THE WORKERS GOT TIRED OF HIM AND ACTUALLY LYNCHED HIM AND HUNG HIM.
AND THEN THE MILL, ALSO BEING A TALC MILL, HAD A VAT WHERE THEY WOULD FEED THE POWDERED TALC.
ONE OF THE WORKERS FELL INTO THAT VA AND PERISHED BY GETTING TALC FULL IN HIS LUNGS.
SO HE ACTUALLY SUFFOCATED BY TALCUM POWDER, WHICH I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IS REALLY A HORRIFIC WAY TO DIE.
SO WE REALLY WANTED TO SET UP THERE AND SEE WHAT WE COULD CAPTURE AND SEE IF WE CAN CONTAC THOSE GENTLEMEN UP THERE.
WE DECIDED TO START BY THE VA WHERE THE WORKER PASSED AWAY, AND AS I'M FILMING MY FRIEND, I SEE A BLACK MASS, MAYBE 3, 4 FEET HIGH, RUN ACROSS THE TOP OF THE STAIRS.
SO WE RAN UP THERE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD CAPTURE.
WE LOOKED ALL OVER.
WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING, BUT LATER ON, ON THAT VIDEO, RIGHT AS WE HI THE TOP OF THE STAIRS WHERE I HAD SEEN THAT BLACK MASS, WE HEARD AN EVIL LAUGHTER.
IT'S ALMOST AS IF IT WAS MOCKING US BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE HIM, SO HE'S LIKE, "HA HA HA.
" TO THINK THAT SOMETHING WAS WATCHING US WAS REALLY CREEPY.
THE NEXT PLACE WE DECIDED TO INVESTIGATE WAS AN OLD SCHOOLHOUSE, LIKE "LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE" KIND OF THING, WHERE ALL AGES WOULD SIT THERE AND PROBABLY BE THERE EVERY DAY FROM THERE WERE 5 YEARS OLD UNTIL THEY WERE PROBABLY 16, 17 YEARS OLD AND WERE OLD ENOUGH TO GO WORK OUT ON THE FIELDS.
THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THIS BUILDING, AND SO DID THE TEACHER.
NOW, SOMETIMES A PLACE IS HAUNTED BECAUSE PEOPLE LOVE TO REVISI WHERE THEY HAD GOOD TIMES OR WHERE THEY SPEN A LOT OF THEIR TIME GROWING UP.
SO WE WERE HOPING TO REALLY CATCH SOMETHING IN THE SCHOOLHOUSE THAT NIGHT.
WE'RE POKING AROUND IN THERE AND FOUND A LIST OF RULES.
SO WE DECIDED TO BREAK A FEW OF THESE RULES AND MAYBE ENTICE THE TEACHER TO SPEAK TO US IN AN EVP SESSION.
WE ASKED IT TO KNOCK, AND WE GOT A KNOCK.
[ KNOCKING .]
[ KNOCK .]
I REALLY COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
WHEN I HEARD THAT KNOCKING, I REALLY HAD TO CONSIDER THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING IN THERE WITH US BECAUSE NO ONE WAS WALKING AROUND AND THERE WAS NOTHING UNDERNEATH THE SCHOOLHOUSE.
THERE'S NO LOWER LEVEL.
SO THERE'S NO ONE THAT COULD BE MESSING AROUND, NO ANIMALS.
IT SITS SQUARELY ON THE GROUND.
SO WE FIGURED, "LET'S ASK AGAIN.
" AND THIS TIME, THREE SOLID KNOCKS CAME UP THROUGH THE FLOORBOARDS WHERE I WAS STANDING.
[ KNOCKING .]
NOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HEARD AND I ALSO FELT.
SO, RIGHT AWAY, WE RAN FOR IT.
THE NEXT DAY, I WENT BACK TO LOOK OVER SOME OF WHAT WE CAPTURED WITH BRUCE.
WE'RE GOING OVER THE THERMAL.
ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE MILL, YOU COULD SEE BRUCE WALK PAST.
SO YOU GE A CLEAR SIGNATURE OF HEAT, AND THEN IN THE DOORWAY, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE A HEAT SIGNATURE IN THE SHAPE OF A CHILD, BUT WE DIDN'T SEE ANYONE STANDING THERE THAT DAY.
Pearson: YEAH, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA.
WHEN I SAW THE THERMAL VIDEO, I WAS BLOWN AWAY BECAUSE IT WAS A WOODEN WALL.
THERE WAS NOTHING TO GENERATE THAT HEA OR TO CAUSE A FALSE IMPRESSION OF THAT ON THE THERMAL CAMERA.
Versace: WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE CAPTURED WAS LEGITIMATE, SO WE WENT BACK THERE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO RECAPTURE THAT.
NOTHING THAT WE DID WAS EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT WE CAUGH ON THAT THERMAL.
Pearson: A THERMAL CAMERA DOES NOT LIE.
WHETHER YOU INTERPRET IT PROPERLY OR NO IS ANOTHER ISSUE.
BUT I'M CONVINCED THA IT'S A TRUE REPRESENTATION OF AN ENTITY THAT WAS THERE.
Versace: WITH EVERYTHING THA WE EXPERIENCED THAT NIGHT -- THE THERMAL, THE SHADOW, THE LAUGHTER THE KNOCKING IN THE SCHOOLHOUSE [ KNOCKS .]
I HONESTLY BELIEVE, 100%, THAT PARANORMAL ACTIVITY IS ABUNDANT AT THE RED MILL.
Pearson: THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THERE IS SOMETHING BEYOND THE REALITY THAT WE EXPERIENCE EVERY DAY.
AND AFTER SEEING ALL OF KARRIE-ANN'S EVIDENCE, THAT WAS LIKE GETTING HIT OVER THE HEAD WITH A 2x4.
I DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD COME UP WITH ANY OTHER CONCLUSION.
THE PLACE IS HAUNTED.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
Jonas: THE REFLECTION IN THE MIRROR WAS A MAN WITH A CLOAKED WHITE HOOD ON.
Wales: I FELT THE SPIRITS WERE ANGRY.
Jonas: THE GOOSE BUMPS WENT FROM HEAD TO TOE.
Wales: THESE SPIRITS LIVE HERE, AND IT SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME.
Jonas: THE REFLECTION IN THE MIRROR WAS A MAN WITH A CLOAKED WHITE HOOD ON.
Wales: I FELT THE SPIRITS WERE ANGRY.
Jonas: THE GOOSE BUMPS WENT FROM HEAD TO TOE.
MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I VISITED THE GILPIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND JAIL.
CENTRAL CITY IS AN OLD MINING TOWN FROM THE 1800s.
BACK IN THE DAY, IT WAS WELL-KNOWN FOR MINING ACCIDENTS.
IT'S A GAMBLING TOWN NOW, SO IT'S STILL THE WILD WES BUT IN A NEW TIME.
THE COURTHOUSE IN GILPIN COUNTY WAS BUILT IN 1899 INTO 1900.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR TRADITIONAL THREE-STORY BRICK BUILDING.
THE FIRST TIME I MET JOSEY WAS DURING THE INVESTIGATION, AND I WAS TOLD THAT HE WAS THE MAN TO TALK TO BECAUSE HE KNEW THE MOS ABOUT THAT BUILDING.
Wales: I'VE WORKED THERE FOR 18 YEARS, SO IT'S ALMOST BEEN LIKE A SECOND HOME FOR ME, DOING BUILDING MAINTENANCE, FIXING THINGS.
THERE WAS ACTIVITY ON LITERALLY EVERY FLOOR.
THERE'S SPIRITS THERE THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT THERE FOR SOME REASON, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING OVER TO THE OTHER WORLD.
AND MAYBE THESE LADIES CAN HELP RELEASE THESE GHOSTS FROM THIS LIMBO THAT THEY'RE STAYING IN.
Jonas: DURING THE WALK-THROUGH, JOSEY TOOK US DOWN TO THE NOTORIOUS JAIL.
THE FEELING THAT YOU GE WHEN YOU WALK IN IS VERY CREEPY.
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE BEING WATCHED.
Wales: THE JAIL CELLS AT THE GILPIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE WERE BUIL OUT OF AN OLD BATTLESHIP.
THERE WAS TIMES I'D WALK INTO THE JAIL CELL AND I'D JUS GET GOOSE BUMPS ALL OVER.
Jonas: WE ALWAYS TAKE STILL SHOTS.
WE TOOK ONE OF JOSEY AND I IN FRONT OF THE ACTUAL CELL.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PHOTO, YOU WOULD THINK THAT IN THE MIRROR ITSELF, YOU'D SEE THE REFLECTION OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN FRONT OF IT, WHICH WAS MYSELF, JOSEY, AND MY TEAMMATE WHO WAS TAKING THE PICTURE.
THIS WAS NOT A REFLECTION OF US.
THE REFLECTION IN THE VERY BACK MIRROR WAS A MAN ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE STANDING AT A STANCE WITH A CLOAKED WHITE HOOD ON.
WHEN THEY USED TO HANG PEOPLE BACK IN THE DAY, THEY WOULD CLOAK THEM SO NO ONE COULD SEE THEIR FACE, AND THIS REFLECTION WAS ACTUALLY IN THAT MIRROR.
Wales: WHEN I LOOK A THE PICTURE OF THE MIRROR, I SEE A FACE, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE.
I'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO THAT MIRROR ALL THESE YEARS.
I WAS JUST DRAWN TO IT.
TODAY, WHEN I LOOK IN THAT MIRROR, I FEEL LIKE THE SPIRIT'S LOOKING BACK AT ME, AND IT SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME.
Jonas: USUALLY WITH OUR INVESTIGATIONS, WE ARE USUALLY LOCKED IN, SO WE ASKED JOSEY TO LEAVE.
Wales: IT DID WORRY ME THAT I WAS LEAVING THESE LADIES THERE ALONE BECAUSE WE KNEW SOMETHING WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
Jonas: SO WE DECIDED TO STAR THE ACTUAL INVESTIGATION IN ONE PART OF THE JAIL CELL, AND I WAS BASICALLY CHALLENGING THIS SPIRI SO WE COULD GE SOME KIND OF READINGS AND SOME KIND OF VALIDATION THA SOMETHING REALLY RESIDES THERE.
SO, WE WEREN'T GETTING ANYTHING.
WE DECIDED TO GO INTO THE CELL NEXT DOOR.
AT THAT POINT, SOME TYPE OF ENERGY CAME OFF THAT TOP BUNK AND JUMPED OUT AT MY TEAMMATE.
HER RESPONSE WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
Woman: [ GASPS .]
Jonas: I'VE NEVER SEEN HER RESPOND LIKE THIS, SO I WAS REALLY WORRIED.
Wales: YOU CAN TELL FROM THE REACTION -- I KNOW THESE LADIES NOW -- AND THEY DON' SCARE THAT EASILY.
Jonas: WE WERE SO STARTLED, BUT WE DECIDED TO GO AND TRY TO MAKE ONE LAST COMMUNICATION.
I WANTED TO GE AN EVP FROM THIS SPIRI TO SEE WHO WE WERE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH.
SO WHEN WE WALKED BACK IN, WE WERE TALKING ON THE OVILUS, AND THE WORD "WILL DIE" CAME OUT.
Wales: WHEN I SAW THAT VIDEO, I WAS AMAZED.
I FELT THE SPIRITS WERE ANGRY THAT THESE LADIES INVADED THEIR HOUSE.
Jonas: I DIDN'T WANT TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS A THREAT, WHEN IT SAID, "WILL DIE," BUT IT WASN'T A GOOD FEELING.
THE NEXT WORD WAS "BLOOD.
" DOWNSTAIRS IN THE JAIL, THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT HAS A DARK SIDE TO IT.
WHEN THOSE WORDS POPPED OUT OF THAT OVILUS, I KNEW IT WAS TIME TO GET OUT OF THERE.
WE LEFT THAT AREA, AND YOU COULD JUST FEEL IT BEHIND YOU.
IT BREATHED ON THE BACK OF MY NECK ALL THE WAY OUT.
IT WAS LIKE IT WAS RIGHT BEHIND ME ALL THE WAY OUT OF THE JAIL.
THEN WE WENT UPSTAIRS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE COMMUNICATION, AND WE ASKED THE SPIRIT, "GIVE US SOME SIGN THAT YOU'RE HERE.
" WE HEARD A DOOR BANG.
AND I HAD SAID, "WELL, MAYBE THAT'S JOSEY OUTSIDE.
" NOT A MINUTE AFTER WE SAID THAT, THE OVILUS SAID, "OUTSIDE.
" WHEN IT ACTUALLY SAID, "OUTSIDE," AND WE JUST SAID "OUTSIDE," IT'S VALIDATION THAT THEY CAN HEAR YOU.
Wales: TO ME, IT KIND OF PROVES THAT THEY KNOW WHO I AM.
I'M JUST NOT SOME GUY THAT WALKED OFF THE STREET.
THEY KNOW, "JOSEY, HE'S OUTSIDE.
" Jonas: WE FIND THA WHEN WE DO THE INVESTIGATION, WE KIND OF DRUM UP THE ENERGY, AND THEN, WHEN THEY FIND OUT WE'RE GONE, THAT'S WHEN THEY COME OUT.
WE DECIDED TO GO INTO THE COURTROOM AREA, AND WE SET UP A CAMERA SO WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE FURNITURE THAT WAS IN THE ROOM SINCE JOSEY HAD TOLD US THAT THE FURNITURE HAD MOVED MANY TIMES.
AND LATER ON, WHEN I SAW THA VIDEO, I SAID, "OH, MY GOSH.
WE ACTUALLY CAUGHT SOMETHING.
" THERE WAS NOBODY IN THAT BUILDING, SO WE WERE ACTUALLY SEEING THE ENERGY LIGHT UP THE SPIRITS AND THEM ZIPPING BY.
Wales: I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT UP THERE BEFORE, SO I WAS A BIT TAKEN BY THAT.
WHEN I SAW THAT VIDEO, THE GOOSE BUMPS WENT FROM HEAD TO TOE.
AFTER THIS INVESTIGATION, I WAS VERY HESITAN ABOUT EVER RETURNING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE COULD GAIN AN ATTACHMEN OF ALL SORTS OF EVIL THAT I DON'T WAN TO BRING HOME TO MY FAMILY.
Wales: THESE LADIES FOUND THA THE SPIRITS WANT TO BE THERE.
IT'S MY JOB TO WORK AT THE COURTHOUSE, AND THESE SPIRITS LIVE HERE.
I CAN QUIT TOMORROW, BUT I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT.
AND SO I JUST HAVE TO EMOTIONALLY BE PREPARED FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS.
James: WE FOUND MOUNT HOPE CEMETERY TO BE A CHALLENGE.
Debbie: ESPECIALLY HALLOWEEN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN THE SPIRITS ARE MOST ACTIVE.
James: WHAT WE CAPTURED WAS WAY BEYOND EXPLANATION.
IT WAS OBVIOUS THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON HERE IN THIS CEMETERY.
Debbie: I'M STILL GETTING CHILLS THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE.
James: WE FOUND MOUNT HOPE CEMETERY TO BE A CHALLENGE.
WHAT WE CAPTURED WAS WAY BEYOND EXPLANATION.
Debbie: I'M STILL GETTING CHILLS THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE.
James: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I VISITED MOUNT HOPE CEMETERY IN INDEPENDENCE, KANSAS.
I'VE BEEN A PARANORMAL ENTHUSIAS EVER SINCE I WAS ABOUT 6 YEARS OLD.
Debbie: MY HUSBAND, GYPSY, AND I ARE AVID RIDERS, AND WE JUST LIKE TO TRAVEL THE COUNTRYSIDE LOOKING FOR ANYTHING PARANORMAL, ESPECIALLY OUTSIDE.
WE FEEL LIKE WE GET MORE ACTIVITY OUTDOORS.
James: BUT WE DON'T GO TO THE USUAL PLACES.
YOU ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT ASYLUMS, THE PRISONS.
WE GO TO OBSCURE SPOTS.
WE GO TO SPOTS THAT ARE SO FAR OFF THE BEATEN TRACK THAT NOBODY EVEN KNOWS THEY EXIST UNTIL WE FIND THEM.
Debbie: WE LIKE TO TRAVEL TO DIFFERENT CEMETERIES, ESPECIALLY HALLOWEEN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN THE SPIRITS ARE MOST ACTIVE.
James: WE FOUND MOUNT HOPE CEMETERY TO BE A CHALLENGE.
IT IS SO LARGE THAT THE THOUGH OF MAYBE CAPTURING SOMETHING THERE WAS FOREMOST IN OUR MIND WHEN WE WENT THERE.
Debbie: THE CEMETERY'S REALLY PRETTY DARK.
James: YOU GO INTO THE CEMETERY AND IT'S IMMEDIATELY MIDNIGHT.
Debbie: JUST REAL EERIE.
James: THERE ARE SEVERAL GATES THAT ENTER IN THE CEMETERY.
WE WALKED THROUGH ONE OF THE SIDE GATES TO GET IN THERE.
WE STARTED UP THIS ONE PATH THAT LEADS TOWARDS THE MAINTENANCE SHED, AND AS WE APPROACH THIS MAINTENANCE SHED, THERE'S A STREETLIGHT THAT'S UP ON THE SIDE OF THE SHED, GIVING ILLUMINATION IN THAT AREA, AND IT WAS ON.
AS WE APPROACHED IT, IT WENT OFF.
NO BIG THING -- COULD BE A SHORT.
WE BACKED OFF, THE LIGHT CAME BACK ON AGAIN.
THIS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES -- BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.
Debbie: I TOLD MY HUSBAND, I SAID, "I DON'T FEEL GOOD.
I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THIS AREA," AND HE AGREED, SO WE WEN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
James: WE DECIDED TO GO DOWN A DIFFERENT PATH, AND THE ROAD FORKS AT THAT PATH.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, TEMPERATURE JUST DROPPED.
IT WENT DOWN TO NOTHING.
I MEAN, YOU COULD SEE MY BREATH.
DEBBIE JUST KIND OF LOOKED AT ME AND SHE SAID, "WHAT IN THE WORLD?" IT WAS OBVIOUS THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON HERE IN THIS CEMETERY.
WE DECIDED IT WAS A GOOD TIME TO START TAKING PHOTOS.
Debbie: THERE WAS A PICTURE OF A WOMAN COMING OUT OF AN ORB WITH HER HAIR FLYING BACK BEHIND HER HEAD.
AND SHE'S OVER A GRAVE STONE.
James: FACE IS THERE, AND SHE IS FLOWING OUT OF THE ORB.
SHE'S PULLING HERSELF OUT OF THAT ORB.
Debbie: IN THIS VERY SAME PHOTOGRAPH, THERE WAS A SIGNATURE ORB THAT FOLLOWED US ALL AROUND THE CEMETERY.
YOU COULD TELL IT WAS THE SAME ORB BECAUSE THERE WAS A LITTLE DO UP IN THE TOP LEFT SIDE OF I THAT WAS VERY DISTINC SO YOU KNEW IT WAS THE SAME ORB.
James: THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN FRONT OF US THAT, AT THE TIME, WE CANNO WITH OUR EYES PHYSICALLY SEE BUT OUR CAMERA LENS PICKED UP.
WOW! LOOK WHAT WE GOT.
Debbie: WE COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
James: WE HEADED BACK DOWN THE MAIN PATHWAY.
I SNAPPED A PHOTO BACK UP THE PATH.
THERE WAS A YELLOWISH-COLOR ORB IN THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.
Debbie: IT WAS OF A SINISTER-LOOKING MAN, AND HE JUST HAD THIS LOOK.
James: BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAPTURED IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH.
WE CAUGHT A FULL-BODY APPARITION OF A LITTLE GIRL STANDING DEAD CENTER OF THE ROAD.
SHE'S WEARING A LONG NIGHTGOWN.
YOU CAN SEE HER BANGS OF HER HAIR.
HER FACIAL FEATURES WERE KIND OF BLANK.
THERE'S NO EXPRESSION THAT YOU CAN MAKE OUT, BUT HER EYES ARE REAL HOLLOW.
Debbie: AND SHE JUST LOOKED FORLORN AND SAD LIKE SHE HAD NOWHERE TO GO.
James: LIKE A LITTLE CHILD THAT'S CRYING, YOU WANT TO GO UP AND HUG HER, TELL HER IT'S GONNA BE OKAY.
IT'S GONNA BE ALL RIGHT.
Debbie: WE DECIDED TO SET UP A VIDEO CAMERA.
James: IN THE PROCESS OF SETTING UP THE VIDEO CAMERA, I WAS TAKING SOME MORE PICTURES.
TAKE THE FIRST PHOTO.
THERE'S NO MIST, NOTHING.
WE TAKE THE SECOND PHOTO.
WE HAVE THIS MIS FLOATING ACROSS THE SCREEN.
WE WERE SHOCKED BECAUSE I WAS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF US.
SO WE GET THE CAMERA ROLLING, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THERE'S THISACROSS THE LENS.
IT'S A BIG, WHITE OBJECT ACROSS THE LENS.
WHEN WE WENT BACK LATER AND WE LOOKED AT IT FRAME BY FRAME WE WERE LIKE, "WHA IN THE WORLD JUST HAPPENED? WHAT WAS THAT?" Debbie: AFTER WE GOT THIS, WE TURNED ON OUR DIGITAL RECORDER.
WE WERE NEAR THE WILLIAM INGE GRAVE SITE -- THE FAMOUS PLAYWRIGHT.
James: HE DIED A VIOLENT DEATH.
WE ASKED THE TYPICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D ASK DURING AN EVP SESSION.
Debbie: DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? James: OUR EVP PICKED UP "YES.
" Debbie: I'M STILL GETTING CHILLS THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE.
WE THINK THAT THE FEMALE VOICE MIGHT BE ONE OF WILLIAM INGE'S RELATIVES.
HIS MOTHER AND HIS SISTER ARE BOTH BURIED THERE WITH HIM.
James: EVERYONE THEY KNOW HAS PASSED AWAY.
THERE IS NO MORE INGE FAMILY IN INDEPENDENCE.
THEY'RE GONE.
SO THERE WOULD BE REALLY NO ONE THAT THE ENTITY COULD SPEAK TO AT THAT TIME.
Debbie: WE WERE PRETTY NEAR THE END OF OUR INVESTIGATION, AND WE THOUGHT, "WE'LL JUS START CLICKING MORE PICTURES AND SEE WHAT WE GET.
" [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS .]
James: WHAT WE CAPTURED WAS WAY BEYOND EXPLANATION.
IN THIS ONE PHOTO, UP AGAINST THIS TREE, IS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A GHOST OF AN INSECT.
Debbie: THERE WAS NO COLOR, NO ANYTHING.
IT WAS JUST SOLID WHITE.
James: WHEN YOU SNAP A PICTURE OF A BUG, IT'S BLURRED 'CAUSE THEY ARE MOVING PRETTY FAST.
THIS IS SOLID.
Debbie: THE INSECT, BASED ON PROPORTION, WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE 18 INCHES ACROSS TO BE UP THERE AND BE WHAT WE SAW.
James: WE CALLED IT THE GHOST MOTH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO DESCRIBE IT.
Debbie: AFTER WE CAUGHT THIS, WE WERE DONE WITH THE INVESTIGATION.
WHILE WE WERE WALKING OUT OF THE GATE James: I LOOKED AT HER AND I SAID, "DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING FOLLOWED?" I HAD THE CAMERA SITTING IN FRONT OF ME.
I SPUN AROUND AND SNAP.
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS .]
Debbie: AND THERE'S AN ORB RIGHT THERE, FOLLOWING US OUT.
James: THERE WERE NO FOOTSTEPS, BUT IT'S THAT FEELING THAT SOMETHING OR SOMEONE'S LOOKING DEAD AT THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD AS YOU'RE WALKING AWAY.
Debbie: WE DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS A GUARDIAN AND THAT'S WHY HE WAS ALL OVER THE CEMETERY OR IF HE WAS TELLING US TO GO.
James: BUT THIS ONE JUST MADE THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF MY NECK STAND UP.
WE HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A CEMETERY THAT WAS ACTIVE AS MOUNT HOPE WAS.
THERE WAS SO MUCH FLYING AROUND IN THE AIR THAT NIGHT, IT WAS REALLY HARD TO NAIL DOWN EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS THAT WAS HAPPENING.
IT'S CAUSED US TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFEREN AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CEMETERY.
Debbie: THERE WERE JUST A LO OF DIFFERENT SPIRITS THERE, AND YOU JUST HAVE TO HOPE THAT YOU DON'T RUN ACROSS THE WRONG ONES.
James: WE NOW ARE A LITTLE MORE RESPECTFUL OF HOW MUCH ACTIVITY CAN OCCUR ON A HALLOWEEN NIGHT.
THE SPIRITS WERE DEFINITELY WALKING THE EARTH THAT HALLOWEEN NIGHT.
THEY WERE OUT THERE, AND THEY WERE OUT THERE IN FORCE.
Ovadal: I WOULD GO DOWN IN THE BASEMENT, AND I ALWAYS FEL LIKE SOMEBODY WAS BEHIND ME.
MY SECOND HUSBAND TOLD ME THAT A SPIRIT, LIKE A BLACK MIST, HAD CHASED HIM UP THE STAIRS.
Leder: WHAT IS IN THAT CLOSET? HE GOES, "YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.
" Ovadal: I ALWAYS FEL LIKE SOMEBODY WAS BEHIND ME.
A SPIRI HAD CHASED HIM UP THE STAIRS.
Leder: WHAT IS IN THAT CLOSET? HE GOES, "YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.
" Ovadal: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN THE SPIRI OF MY FIRST HUSBAND STARTED TO HAUNT OUR HOME.
I LIVE IN IXONIA, WISCONSIN, WITH MY SECOND HUSBAND AND MY FOUR CHILDREN.
DALE WAS MY FIRST HUSBAND.
WE MARRIED IN '97.
HE WAS A VERY KIND PERSON.
HE HAD A PURE SOUL.
HE SORT OF STARTED CHANGING A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN OUR MARRIAGE, AND THINGS WEREN'T GOING VERY WELL FOR HIM, AND HE ENDED UP TAKING HIS OWN LIFE IN 2006.
IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY SAD TIME FOR ALL OF US.
WHEN DALE PASSED AWAY, STRANGE THINGS STARTED TO HAPPEN IN MY HOUSE.
A LOT OF TIMES AT NIGHT, FEELS LIKE SOMEBODY CRAWLED INTO BED WITH ME 'CAUSE MY COVERS WILL LIFT, AND IT'S NOT MY CAT, AND MY HUSBAND IS ASLEEP, AND THE HOUSE IS QUIET.
MY SON MASON SAID THA HE WOULD SEE A FIGURE STAND AT THE END OF HIS BED.
HE WAS OFTEN TERRIFIED AND WOULD WANT TO COME UPSTAIRS AND SLEEP WITH ME.
AND I WOULD GO DOWN TO THE BASEMENT, AND IT WAS REALLY HEAVY WITH A LOT OF NEGATIVE EMOTION.
I ALWAYS FELT LIKE SOMEBODY WAS RIGHT NEXT TO ME OR BEHIND ME.
ANOTHER STRANGE THING THAT HAPPENED -- MY SECOND HUSBAND TOLD ME THA A SPIRIT, LIKE A BLACK MIST -- HAD CHASED HIM UP THE STAIRS.
HE WAS TERRIFIED, AND THAT ABSOLUTELY STUNNED ME.
NADINE IS THE LEADER OF ONE OF THE PARANORMAL GROUPS IN MY STATE, AND I DECIDED TO CONTACT HER BECAUSE I JUST WANTED THE HEAVY NEGATIVITY OUT OF THE HOUSE.
AND IT WAS REALLY HARD TO LIVE WITH.
Leder: WALKING INTO THAT HOUSE, YOU COULD DEFINITELY TELL AN ENERGY CHANGE.
MY HAIR WAS ON END, THE AIR INSIDE THE HOME WAS A LOT HEAVIER THAN NORMAL.
DEFINITELY GOT A SENSATION THAT WE WERE NOT ALONE.
WE FIRST DECIDED TO TAKE SOME PHOTOS.
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS .]
WE FOCUSED ON ROOMS WHERE THE HEAVIER ACTIVITY WAS HAPPENING.
WE DID UNCOVER SEVERAL PHOTOGRAPHS THAT HAD ORBS.
TO ME, THAT SIGNIFIED THAT, YES, WHAT WE WERE FEELING, THAT THERE WERE SPIRITS IN HERE, IS ACTUALLY TRUE.
WHEN WE START AN EVP SESSION IN A CLIENT'S HOME, WE USE A PARABOLIC DISH.
WE HAVE AUDIO RECORDING CONSTANTLY THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S ON THE DISH OR WE ALSO USE HANDHELD VOICE RECORDERS TO CAPTURE OUR MOVEMEN AS WE WALK FROM ROOM TO ROOM.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED WAS, "ARE THERE ANY SPIRITS WITH US TONIGHT?" WE IMMEDIATELY GOT A RESPONSE.
WHEN YOU HEAR THAT ON AUDIO, IT JUST FREAKS YOU OUT.
IT'S LIKE, "OH, MY GOSH.
THAT WASN'T ONE OF US.
" WE ASKED THE QUESTION, "ARE YOU DALE?" Ovadal: WHEN I HEARD THAT EVP, I WAS EXCITED AND KIND OF SAD ALL AT THE SAME TIME THAT HE WAS STILL HERE.
Leder: WE UNCOVERED SEVERAL OTHER EVPs CAUGHT IN AMANDA'S BEDROOM.
Ovadal: WHEN I HEARD THE EVP "I SEE YOU IN YOUR BEDROOM," THAT WAS REALLY SCARY.
IT'S JUST WEIRD TO THINK THAT SOMEBODY'S SITTING THERE AND WATCHING YOU AND I CAN FEEL THEM BUT CAN'T SEE THEM.
Leder: DALE, IF YOU'RE HERE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY TO AMANDA? Ovadal: WHEN I HEARD DALE SAYING, "I STILL HOLD YOU," THAT WAS PRETTY ENDEARING TO ME TO THINK THAT HE WOULD STILL WAN TO HOLD ME IN THE AFTERLIFE.
ALMOST MOVED ME TO TEARS WHEN I HEARD IT.
WHEN WE HEARD "TELL THEM YOU WATCH THEM," THAT WAS LIKE A WARNING.
Leder: IT WAS INTERPRETED BY US THAT DALE WAS WATCHING OUT FOR HER, LETTING HER KNOW THA IT WASN'T JUST HIM AROUND HER IN THE HOUSE, THAT SHE DID HAVE SIGNIFICANT SPIRITS TRYING TO HAUNT HER.
Ovadal: I WAS ACTUALLY VERY TERRIFIED TO THINK THAT THERE WERE OTHER SPIRITS IN THE HOUSE AND SCARED OF WHAT, MAYBE, THEY COULD DO.
Leder: WE DECIDED TO GO DOWN INTO THE BASEMEN AND FOCUS ON THE SON'S BEDROOM.
INSIDE HIS BEDROOM, HE'S GO THIS REALLY CREEPY CRAWL SPACE.
OUR GROUP WORKS WITH A PSYCHIC, AND HE WAS OVERWHELMED AS SOON AS HE WALKED INTO THIS CRAWL SPACE.
HE GOES, "ALL I CAN SEE IS PEOPLE WALKING BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH THROUGH THIS ROOM.
" WE'RE CONVINCED THAT I HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE LAND.
WHERE THIS HOUSE IS LOCATED WAS AN OLD PIONEER AND INDIAN AREA.
IT STUNNED US 'CAUSE WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS MUCH ACTIVITY WAS GOING ON IN THE HOUSE.
Ovadal: THAT'S CRAZY TO THINK HOW MANY GHOSTS COULD BE TRAVELING THROUGH MY HOUSE AT ANY ONE TIME.
Leder: WHILE WE WERE IN THE BASEMENT, I JUST GO THIS INCREDIBLY COLD CHILL.
MY HAIR WAS STANDING UP ON END.
AND I COULD FEEL A STRONG ENERGY SITTING NEXT TO ME, AND IT WAS NOT FRIENDLY.
IT WAS MORE LIKE ANGRY ENERGY.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT ENTITY RESIDING DOWN IN THE BASEMENT HERE? WHEN WE REVIEW SOME OF OUR VIDEO, I HAD A NICE ORB RIGHT NEXT TO ME ON THE COUCH, RIGHT WHERE I HAD THE SENSATION.
BASED ON SOME OF THE OTHER EVIDENCE WE WERE CAPTURING, WE CONCLUDED THA THIS ENERGY AND ORB ACTIVITY WAS LIKE AN ANGRY MAN THAT WAS RESIDING IN HER HOME.
Ovadal: WELL, NEXT, WE WEN UP INTO MY DAUGHTER'S BEDROOM.
SHE HAD COMPLAINED OF ALSO SEEING A FIGURE, BUT IN HER CLOSET.
SHE WOULD NOT SLEEP IN HER ROOM BECAUSE SHE WAS SCARED OF IT.
Leder: THE ENERGY IN THAT ROOM WAS SO STRONG, AND IT WAS INCREDIBLY COLD.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, HERE COMES THE CAT.
SAT RIGHT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE CLOSET, WOULD NOT MOVE.
JUST STARED AT THE DOOR.
SO I LOOKED AT OUR PSYCHIC FRIEND WITH THE GROUP, AND I'M LIKE, "WHAT IS IN THAT CLOSET?" HE GOES, "YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.
WE HAVE A VERY STUBBORN MALE SPIRIT RESIDING IN THERE.
" WITH AMANDA'S APPROVAL, WE DECIDED TO DO A CROSSING-OVER CEREMONY TO RID HER HOUSE OF THIS ENTITY.
I DECIDED TO CRAWL INTO THE CLOSET.
I USE A PENDULUM.
I CAN COMMUNICATE THAT WAY AND GET A VISUAL.
Ovadal: SHE WAS VERY DETERMINED TO GET THAT GHOST OUT.
Leder: WHAT I DO IS I FOCUS ON A BIG BALL OF LIGHT, AND I ASK THE SPIRI TO WALK INTO IT.
WHEN I DID THIS, IT ACTUALLY FELT LIKE A HUGE ENERGY RUSH THROUGH YOUR BODY, AND THAT SIGNIFIED TO US THAT THE SPIRIT DID MOVE ON.
Ovadal: THE ROOM SEEMED WARMER.
PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE HAPPIER.
IT SEEMED LIKE PEOPLE WERE KIND OF LAUGHING AND SAYING, "I'M GLAD THE GHOST IS OUT.
" I THINK THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN JUST A GREA LEARNING EXPERIENCE, AND NOW THINGS THAT I SENSE OR SEE IN THE FUTURE WON'T SCARE ME AS MUCH.
I DO STILL ENCOUNTER DALE'S SPIRIT.
SOMETIMES HE'LL MAKE HIMSELF ABLE TO BE SEEN, AND OTHER TIMES, IT'S MORE OF A FEELING.
MY SON MASON IS NO LONGER AFRAID TO SLEEP IN HIS BED.
AND AT NIGHT, WHEN HE SEES THE APPARITION THAT IS HIS FATHER, HE ALWAYS SAYS, "GOOD NIGHT, DAD.
" MY CURRENT HUSBAND FEELS LIKE HE HAS TO COMPETE WITH THE GHOST, IS THE WAY THAT HE'S PUT IT, BUT I ALWAYS TELL HIM HE DOESN'T HAVE TO COMPETE.
THE SPIRIT OF DALE WATCHING OVER ME IS COMFORTING, AND IT'S KIND OF NICE TO HAVE HIM AROUND A LITTLE BI AND THAT HE'S NOT TOTALLY GONE.
Dennis: ALL OF A SUDDEN, SHE JUST SAID, "I THINK SOMEBODY DIED UP HERE.
" Dexter: AND I HAPPENED TO GLANCE IN MY REARVIEW, AND I SEEN A MAN SITTING IN THE BACKSEAT OF MY CAR.
I TOOK SOME PICTURES.
THEY WERE HIS RELATIVES THAT HAD COME TO TAKE HIM TO THE OTHER SIDE.
Dexter: I SEEN A MAN SITTING IN THE BACKSEAT OF MY CAR.
I TOOK SOME PICTURES.
THEY WERE HIS RELATIVES THAT HAD COME TO TAKE HIM TO THE OTHER SIDE.
MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I CAME UPON A CAR ACCIDEN IN LONDON, ONTARIO.
AS A YOUNG CHILD, I REALIZED I HAD THE ABILITY TO SEE GHOSTS AND SPIRITS.
BOTH ME AND MY SISTER HAVE THE ABILITY TO FEEL AND SENSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULDN'T NORMALLY NOTICE.
Dennis: THE PSYCHIC ABILITY THAT MY SISTER AND I SHARE PRESENTS ITSELF AS A REAL COMMON BOND BETWEEN US.
I GREW UP SEEING SPIRITS FROM THE TIME I WAS IN MY CRIB, AND I KNOW BARB HAS ALWAYS SEEN THEM, TOO.
Dexter: ENTITIES WOULD PASS THROUGH THE HOUSE AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
ONE TIME, WHEN I WAS PUT TO BED, SOMETHING WAS WALKING IN MY BEDROOM.
I KNEW IT WASN'T ANYBODY IN MY FAMILY.
SO I'D PULL THE COVERS OVER MY HEAD.
WHOEVER IT WAS PULLED THE COVERS BACK.
AND I WAS JUST TERRIFIED AS A CHILD AND KEPT YELLING FOR MY PARENTS TO COME.
THEY WOULD COME INTO THE ROOM AND SEE NOTHING AND SAY, "GET BACK TO BED.
GO TO SLEEP.
" WITHIN FIVE MINUTES OF THEM LEAVING, THIS PERSON WOULD APPEAR AGAIN.
IT WAS VERY SCARY.
THE DAY OF THE ACCIDENT, I WAS LEAVING A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT.
SOMETHING HAD COME OVER ME THAT SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT, AND I DECIDED I SHOULD CALL MY SISTER.
[ Dialing .]
Dennis: ALL OF A SUDDEN, SHE JUST SAID, "I THINK SOMEBODY DIED UP HERE.
" AND SHE HUNG UP ON ME.
[ Dial tone .]
I JUST LIKE, "WHAT IS SHE TALKING ABOUT?" Dexter: AFTER ABOUT MAYBE 500 METERS, THE CARS IN FRONT OF ME HAD STARTED TO PUT ON THEIR BRAKES AND WERE STOPPING.
AND I REALLY COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING, AND THEN THE CLOSER I GOT, THE MORE I REALIZED THAT THERE MUST BE AN ACCIDENT.
I FELT COMPELLED TO KEEP GOING FORWARD.
PRETTY SOON, I WAS THE FIRST CAR IN FRONT OF THE ACCIDENT, AND I COULD SEE THAT IT HAD JUST HAPPENED.
NOBODY HAD EVEN GOT OUT OF THE VEHICLES YET.
THERE WERE A FEW OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE STANDING AROUND THE ACCIDENT SCENE.
I THOUGHT, "WELL, MAYBE I SHOULD GET OU AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING I COULD DO TO HELP.
" THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN STANDING IN FRONT OF THE PASSENGER DOOR, AND HE SAID, "PLEASE DON'T COME ANY CLOSER.
YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE.
" HE SAID, "THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.
THIS GENTLEMAN HAS PASSED.
" I WAS STUNNED.
I'D HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE YELL FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE ACCIDENT SCENE THAT THEY HAD CALLED 911, SO I FOCUSED MY ATTENTION ON THE OTHER VEHICLE, AND THE GENTLEMAN WAS JUST GETTING OUT OF THAT CAR.
YOU COULD TELL HE WAS IN SHOCK, VERY CONFUSED, A LITTLE DAZED.
JUST CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
FOR SOME REASON, I HAD A WEIRD FEELING TO TAKE PICTURES WITH MY PHONE.
NORMALLY, I WOULD NEVER DO THAT.
I DON'T LIKE TO THRIVE ON DESPAIR.
BUT I COULD NOT CONTROL MYSELF.
FOR SOME REASON, I KNEW THA I NEEDED TO TAKE THOSE PICTURES.
THE AMBULANCES DID ARRIVE, AND PEOPLE RAN TO THE CAR OF THE MAN WHO WE PRESUMED WAS PASSED AWAY.
SOME OF THEM COME AND TALK TO THE MAN WITH ME, AND THEY TOOK HIM INTO ANOTHER AMBULANCE.
I SAT IN THE CAR AND JUS THOUGHT, "THAT'S JUST SO SAD.
" ALL OF A SUDDEN, I GOT THIS VERY WEIRD FEELING, LIKE A CHILL THAT WENT RIGHT UP MY SPINE.
AND I HAPPEN TO GLANCE IN MY REARVIEW, AND I SEEN A MAN SITTING IN THE BACKSEAT OF MY CAR.
AND I SAID, "ARE YOU OKAY? DO YOU NEED HELP?" AND THEN THAT'S WHEN I NOTICED THAT HE WASN' REALLY A PHYSICAL HUMAN.
HE WAS MORE OR LESS A SPIRIT.
HE WAS ALMOST TRANSLUCENT.
HE JUST STARED AT THE ACCIDENT SCENE, OF THEM WORKING, TRYING TO GE THIS MAN OUT OF THIS OTHER CAR.
IT WAS LIKE HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I WAS THERE.
I BELIEVE IT WAS THE SPIRI OF THE MAN THAT WAS IN THE CAR, THE MAN THAT HAD PASSED AWAY.
HE MUST HAVE FIGURED THAT I WAS A GOOD PLACE TO GO FOR HELP.
AT FIRST, I WAS VERY SCARED.
[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER .]
THE POLICE OFFICER AT THE SCENE ASKED IF I WOULD COME AND GIVE A STATEMENT.
I DIDN'T WAN TO SAY TO THE POLICEMAN, "DO YOU SEE THE GUY IN THE BACKSEAT OF MY CAR?" I JUS KIND OF KEPT MY MOUTH SHU AND DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE A WEIRD PSYCHO WOMAN.
WHEN I GOT IN THE POLICE CAR, I KEPT LOOKING IN MY CAR TO SEE IF THAT GENTLEMAN WAS STILL THERE.
I COULD FEEL LIKE HE WAS STILL THERE, BUT I COULDN'T SEE HIM.
I THOUGHT, "WELL, I BETTER CALL MY SISTER BACK AND LET HER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
" [ TELEPHONE RINGS .]
Dennis: HELLO? SHE SAID, "SOMEONE HAD DIED IN THE ACCIDENT.
" I TOLD HER THA THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID TO ME BEFORE SHE HUNG UP THE PHONE.
SHE HAD KNOWN WHAT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE SHE EVEN GOT TO THE ACCIDENT.
Dexter: I SAID, "AND HE WAS IN MY CAR," AND SHE SAID, "HE'S STILL IN YOUR CAR.
" Dennis: AND SO SHE LOOKED IN THE BACK OF HER CAR.
Dexter: HE WAS THERE AGAIN.
Dennis: THEN SHE IMMEDIATELY HUNG UP ON ME AGAIN.
Dexter: HE WAS IN MY BACKSEA WITH THE SAME GLAZED LOOK.
Dennis: THIS SPIRIT WAS LOST, DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
I THINK THIS SPIRIT GOT IN HER CAR BECAUSE SHE OFFERED HELP.
Dexter: ME AND MY SISTER HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONNECTED, BUT FOR HER TO KNOW THAT HE WAS STILL IN THE CAR KIND OF SHOCKED ME.
WHEN I GOT HOME, I WAS PRETTY EXHAUSTED AND PRETTY STRESSED.
I THOUGHT, "WELL, I SHOULD DOWNLOAD THOSE PICTURES.
" AS I WAS DOING THAT, I COULD FEEL THAT SAME FEELING, LIKE HE WAS THERE AGAIN.
AND I STARTED TO NOTICE THAT THERE WAS THESE TWO SHADOW FIGURES ON THE BARRIER WALL OF THE ACCIDENT SCENE.
IT WAS VERY SHOCKING AT FIRS AND VERY EERIE TO SEE WHAT I HAD CAPTURED.
Dennis: LATER THAT EVENING, I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM BARB WITH THE PHOTOS ATTACHED, AND I WAS JUST IN SHOCK.
I KNEW THAT WE NEEDED TO SORT OF FIGURE OU WHAT THIS STORY WAS ABOU AND WHY WE'RE SEEING THESE TWO PEOPLE.
Dexter: I KNEW INSTANTLY THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PARANORMAL, THAT IT WASN'T JUST SHADOWS.
I FEEL THAT THEY WERE HIS RELATIVES OR SOMEBODY THAT HAD COME TO HELP HIM TO TAKE HIM TO THE OTHER SIDE.
Dennis: I JUST FELT THIS SORT OF HEAVY FEELING IN MY HEART.
WE DECIDED TO MAKE A VIDEO OF THE STORY.
WE HAD PROPPED THE CAMERA UP, AND WE WERE THE ONLY TWO PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
Dexter: WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STORY, JUST DESCRIBING HOW IT HAPPENED, AND WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW PEOPLE THE PICTURES, THAT WE WERE TELLING THE TRUTH.
SO I GOT OUT AND APPROACHED THE CAR THAT WAS CLOSEST TO ME.
WE GOT TO THE POINT OF THE STORY WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOU THE GENTLEMAN GETTING INTO MY CAR, AND WE DIDN'T NOTICE ANYTHING WHILE WE WERE FILMING IT.
BUT IT WAS AFTER THAT WE SEEN THAT THE CAMERA HAD MOVED RIGHT AT THE EXACT POIN OF WHEN WE HAD MENTIONED THA THE GENTLEMAN HAD GOT IN MY CAR.
IT MOVED AND THEN CORRECTED ITSELF BACK.
WE FOUND THAT VERY STRANGE.
HE'S STILL AROUND.
Dennis: IT WAS CONFIRMATION TO US THAT THE SPIRIT WAS STILL HERE.
Dexter: I THINK HE HAS A STORY HE WANTS TO TELL.
I DON'T KNOW WHY HE'S CHOSEN ME, OTHER THAN MAYBE I OFFERED TO HELP AT THE SCENE.
Dennis: I FEEL THE SPIRIT BONDED WITH HER AND THEN PROMPTED HER TO CONTINUE ON WITH TELLING THE STORY.
Dexter: AND IT HAS MADE ME RETHINK A LOT OF THINGS IN LIFE, LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE.