Unforgotten (2015) s06e06 Episode Script
Season 6, Episode 6
1
We have a match.
Your DNA is on the sweatshirt.
Was it you that attacked Mr
Cooper that night? No comment.
You want me to lie for you.
Just say you don't remember
anything that happened that night.
We're done. No.
After I passed them,
I heard splash.
Anything else?
How about if I check my diary?
Can we get the luminol
in here, please?
The blood on Melinda Ricci's jacket,
it belonged to Gerard Cooper.
You're under arrest on
suspicion of murder.
I didn't do it.
LOCK RATTLES
MUSIC: 'All We
Do' by Oh Wonder
All we do is hide away
All we do is All
we do is hide away
All we do is lie and wait
All we do is All
we do is lie and wait
I've been upside down
I don't wanna be
The right way round
Can't find paradise
On the ground. ♪
What are you doing, Marty?
Whoops-a-daisy.
So can you stop harassing
me and my daughter now?
No-one's been
harassing you, Juliet.
You went behind my back
to my daughter's school.
Yesterday, I had to tell her
you might be interrogating her.
We wanted a brief chat.
THAT is your suspect.
A man who's twice come to our
home equipped to do us violence.
It's not a very big leap, is it,
to work out that he
probably killed Gerry, too?
Come on.
How's my mum?
I need to remind you you're
still under caution, Marty.
Did she die?
No.
But she's very
poorly, I'm afraid.
Oh, Mum. CAR ENGINE STARTS
Yes, that's my jacket.
Are you able to explain why
Mr Cooper's blood is on it?
Because he did hit me.
And on that occasion,
I hit him back.
And where was this?
My flat.
When? February
12th, my birthday.
You were seeing each
other at this point?
That was the night we
split up. Your birthday?
Oh, yeah. Because?
It's a long story.
Here all day.
So, I got pregnant
by him in June 2020.
But at that stage of
my life, having a child
was just not something
I could contemplate
..so I had a termination.
And that night, he came
round I'm sorry.
Father Ryan told me that
you actually had the baby
and gave it up for adoption?
That's an interesting interpretation
of confessional privilege.
Yes, I told Father Ryan that.
Because when I said I'd got
pregnant by a married man,
he slightly shat the bed.
I mean, from everything
that I've read of yours,
from watching some
of your stuff on BNC,
you're a pretty staunch
pro-lifer, aren't you?
I think that terminating
a potential life
is a desperately
sad thing to do.
But bringing a child
into the world
especially now, that
you don't want
..that you don't feel that you
can give the best life to
is so much more sad
..is how I feel.
And I profoundly regret not
saying that out loud before now.
I think it's fair to say that
I'm the worst kind of hypocrite.
And when was it,
the termination?
SHE SNIFFLES
Um
July.
And Cooper knew about it?
Yes, unfortunately.
Why "unfortunately"?
Um, so on on February 12th,
..uh, Gerry called me and said
that he wanted to come round
to give me something.
And idiot me, I still thought
that it was a present, but, um
actually, it was a demand
that I lend him 30 grand.
SHE SNIFFS
I presume then, by this
stage, he knew that
you'd been offered a
contract by BNC? Yes.
And what did you say?
No, of course.
Did you have that
amount of money? No.
I mean, I had a few
thousand saved up,
but nothing near that amount.
And what did he say
when you said no?
He would tell BNC and every
newspaper I'd ever worked for
that this pro-lifer,
devout Catholic,
had broken lockdown rules,
had an affair with a married
man, and had an abortion.
And I told him he was evil.
And he punched me in the face.
And I hit him round the head
with a carving of a duck,
hence the blood.
And then I fled my flat.
And I didn't return until
about three hours later,
this time with a male friend, but
by that time, he'd he'd gone.
And will your friend
testify to that? Mm.
Yeah, I spoke to him yesterday.
I'll give you his details.
Did Cooper ever act
on any of his threats?
Not that I'm aware of, no
but by the time it it'd
come closer to me leaving,
he'd lowered the amount to 5K,
and just to get him off my back,
I agreed to meet him
and make him a transfer.
That was on the
24th of February,
and obviously, he
he never showed.
And then I found out from a mutual
friend that he'd disappeared.
And given everything that had
gone on between us, I just..
I just wanted to get out of
London as quickly as possible.
I'll ask you again,
did you ever liaise
with Juliet Cooper?
Yes, I spoke to her once.
She must have got my number from
his phone, and she she rang me,
it was about a year
before he disappeared.
And she was very unpleasant.
She said that she
would fuck my life up.
But I never I never
met her in person.
RINGS DOOR BELL
Mrs Dowari?
Yes. DS Boulting, Bishop
Street Police Station.
I wonder if you could spare me
five minutes for a quick chat?
'Would she return here voluntarily?'
Well, she said an emphatic "no".
And given any extradition will
take many weeks, I'm heading back.
Well, they've also been some
interesting developments here.
'Yeah? What's happening?'
Almost immediately, it was
clear it wasn't habitable.
Damp started to appear
in both bedrooms,
and the children started to
cough and have permanent colds.
And you feel bad,
complaining, because
we were immigrants
and we had not yet
had the opportunity to give
back to this wonderful country.
But Asif was
brilliant and told us
our children have a
right to live safely.
He was only our interpreter,
but he fought so hard
for us with Mr Cooper.
Except every time Mr Cooper
said he'd fix the damp,
all he ever really
did was paint over it.
And so our son Jamal
got sicker and sicker.
Sorry, how old was
Jamal at this point?
18 months when we moved
in, in September 2020.
Thank you. Please go on.
So he was really poorly
with a lung infection
..and then in late January 2021,
he was actually admitted to
hospital because of his breathing.
And how long was
your son in hospital?
Two weeks and five days.
And then he came home
to your new place?
How do you mean?
When he recovered, he came
home to your new place?
Jamal never came home.
Right.
Sorry, so where did he go?
Jamal died.
Oh, Mrs Dowari. Sorry,
I thought you knew.
He had an acute fungal infection
in his lungs from the damp,
and he died on the
22nd of February, 2021.
Two days before his
second birthday.
I'm so, so sorry. May Allah
comfort you. Thank you.
Do you mind if I just ask
one last question. Please?
Of course.
I presume that Asif wasn't
interpreting for you any more,
in your new place?
No. But you kept in
contact with each other?
Very much so, he had
become a valued friend.
And I'm assuming that he
knew about your son's death?
After our family, he was
the first person we told.
OK, so, obviously, we need
to speak to Asif again.
Yeah. The timing's just too
coincidental, isn't it? Agreed.
Fran? We have triangulation.
Excellent!
OK, so, if you look on the
22nd, that's the Monday,
data puts Cooper in Brighton,
which checks out
with his desk diary -
he was meeting snack suppliers.
Yeah. Then back in
Bow, in the evening,
where he calls a local takeaway.
Yes, got that.
Then the 23rd, he seems to
spend most of the day in Bow,
presumably working
in or above the pub.
OK. Or at least his phone
spent most of the day in Bow.
Well, yeah.
But 13:37 on the 24th,
he makes the call to the
brewery woman to cancel
the four o'clock meeting, and
that call is made in Ilford.
Where was Marty Baines'
flat? Ilford. OK.
So on the day he is
reported missing,
we have Cooper maybe
meeting Marty Baines. Maybe.
And did you actually speak
to the brewery person
who got the voicemail? Yes.
She said it was
definitely Cooper.
OK. So we know he's
alive on the 24th.
Well, yeah, probably.
How do you mean?
There's just this weird thing.
With the voicemail he left her,
she said he called her "babe".
Babe?
She said the message
was something like, um,
"Sorry, babe, can't make
today now, I'll call you."
OK. And do we definitely know that
they were just work colleagues?
I mean, given what
we do know about him.
Oh, yeah. She said they were
definitely just colleagues
and that his language
was inappropriate, so
I don't know.
Something about the timing
of all this is just off.
The dodgy number plates,
this message Mm.
..something Yeah.
One to ponder.
Uh OK, listen, thanks, guys.
Hey. Hi, love. Hi.
Um, Steve's been here,
he took his stuff.
Yeah, I know, I said he could.
No No, it's not that.
It's not that, Jess, I'm
just a bit worried about him.
'He's saying some bad
things.' What things?
Like how he's messed
up his whole life
and he can't see a way
forward. Is he still there?
'No, he left about
ten minutes ago.'
He's found a rental
round the corner. Where?
Um, Larford Street.
Jesus, that's literally
the next fucking road.
'I mean he wouldn't do
anything silly, would he?
'He's not He's
not like that, is he?
'He's not that sort of
person?' No, look, uh,
I'll call him, or I'll
drop by on the way home.
What number was
it again? '25.'
Right, OK. Um, listen,
Mum, I've gotta go.
I'll talk to you
later. OK. Thanks. Bye.
So, how was it?
I don't know if
you're aware of this,
but it rains a lot in Ireland?
You're joking (?)
I've never noticed (!)
Listen, are you OK to go straight
into an interview with Asif Syed?
We've only got two
hours left on the clock.
Yeah. Let's go for it.
And then it'll be straight
into Marty Baines.
Murray sent you the
Dowari statement, I think?
He did, and I've got an idea
on how to approach this.
Great. Fire away.
Since we last spoke,
we have new information
on the Dowari family.
Do you remember Jamal Dowari?
No comment.
Well, according to his mum,
Nahal, you absolutely adored him.
You bought him a play mat for
his first birthday, you
baby-sat him on numerous
occasions, do you remember that?
No comment.
I'm sorry to bring this up
because I can see
you're getting upset,
but do you remember what
caused little Jamal's death?
No comment.
I think you do remember because
you were at the hospital,
helping the Dowari family
understand what was happening
and speaking to the
doctors, weren't you?
HE SNIFFLES
No comment.
You know he died of
a fungal infection,
almost certainly caused
by the conditions
in Gerard Cooper's flat.
No comment.
Do you remember the
day he died, Asif?
He died on the 22nd
of February, 2021,
just two days before
his second birthday
..and less than 48 hours before
Gerard Cooper disappeared.
So, listen, let me
tell you where we are.
I think you're in a
bit of a panic.
I think you see your whole world
collapsing - your citizenship,
your relationship, your
whole life in the UK.
And the truth is, if
you do remain silent,
we would be obliged to seek
the authority to charge you
with the car park assault,
despite us knowing that Gerard
Cooper was a violent man
you may well have had to
defend yourself against.
For your information,
I've spoken to the
police at Barnstable,
and they will not be charging you
with any immigration offences.
Your partner has taken full
responsibility for that.
So we would love to be
able to eliminate you
from our enquiries as well.
We suspect you're a
good man, Asif, but
HE SIGHS
..you need to help us here.
Help us help you.
A few weeks after
Jamal first got sick,
in December, I
I went to see Cooper at his pub
doing a lunch for the homeless.
And there he was
..serving food and handing out
clothes and presents, and
..he was brilliant.
Kind, funny, generous
and just just lovely.
Which is when I realised
..he could be empathetic,
he did have the capacity
for compassion, he just
..he just chose not
to show it to us.
Because he'd
stopped seeing us
..as human.
We had "swarmed over"
in our "hordes".
He saw us as vermin.
The day Jamal got admitted, I
went to see Cooper that night.
I'd taken a a photo
of Jamal on a drip,
and my intention was
just to show him,
to shame him, and naively,
I thought maybe
maybe it would change him.
His reaction at first was
to intimidate me physically,
pushing and shoving
cos he was a bully.
And when that didn't work,
because why would it
with someone like me,
he actually tried to hit me.
I mean, he was out of shape,
and I put him down with
two punches, but
..that was it.
I walked away leaving him groaning
on the ground but very much alive.
So what were you doing in
Juliet Cooper's house, Marty?
I wanted to speak to Taylor.
Right. And what did
you want to say to her?
I wanted to offer her my sincere
condolences for her loss.
You broke into her house late at
night to offer your condolences?
Yes, I did.
You had a screwdriver on
you, Marty, in your bag
and a hammer in your hand
when we intercepted you.
Marty Baines, lock-breaker
extraordinaire.
So you've broken into her
home before, haven't you?
Uh, yes, I have.
Where was that?
Above the pub.
Why'd you do that?
To give her dad a right
sorting out. Marty.
You wanted to do violence
to him? Uh, yes, I did.
Punch him on the hooter.
OK.
So we know that Taylor talked you
out of doing anything that day,
but did you later change
your mind? No. I did not.
At a later date, did
you get angry again
about what he did to you,
and specifically to your dad,
and attack him? No, I did not.
Did you kill him, Marty?
No man has the right
to take another man's
life, DI Sunil Khan.
Can we talk to you about Ilford?
I lived in Ilford.
Yes, we know.
We wanted to ask you
about a particular day.
What day? A day we think that
Gerry Cooper was in Ilford as well.
In 2021, in February,
we wanted ask you if you
remember meeting him in Ilford?
I never met him in Ilford.
Are you sure? Yes, I'm sure.
He never came to your flat?
He never came to my flat.
Cos we have a record of a
phone call he made from Ilford
on the day we think he
might have disappeared.
What day is this? The
24th of February, 2021.
On the 24th of February, I had
Coco Pops and tinned peaches
for breakfast, watched Lorraine
and Homes Under The Hammer,
before walking to City
Airport to watch for planes.
I returned to my flat at 20:55
in time for Kirstie and
Phil on Love It Or List It.
That's very detailed, Marty.
Can I ask you why you have
never told us this before?
You never asked me.
Out of interest, can I ask
you what you did on the 23rd?
On the 23rd of February, I had
Coco Pops and tinned peaches
for breakfast, watched Lorraine
and Homes Under The Hammer,
before walking to City
Airport to watch for planes.
I returned to my flat at 20:35
for The Real CSI at 21:00.
I'd put good money on him
being on that airport CCTV
exactly when he
said he was. Mm.
Boss?
The cyclist's daughter dropped
his diary in. Oh, yeah?
Like he said, it was
3:30 in the morning
when he witnessed the disposal,
but it was 3:30 on the 24th.
No way.
Which obviously begs
a number of questions.
Yeah, just a few. Yeah. The
most obvious one of which
is how the hell does a man leave
a voicemail on someone's phone
..when his dismembered body
had been thrown into the marsh
ten hours before?
So, these
according to DVLA, are
the five number plates
at the time of the murder
of the cars of Asif Syed,
Melinda Ricci, Marty Baines's dad,
Gerry Cooper and Juliet Cooper.
All pretty anonymous
saloons. And this
..is our murder car. Now,
it's possible, I guess,
that the killer could've
acquired fake plates,
but that would have required
a lot of prior planning,
suggests premeditation.
This wasn't premeditated.
No. So my best guess is they
altered their own plates
with marker pen or
tape or whatever.
Changed an F to an E, a three
or a six to an eight, etc.
So basically, which
of these five plates
could most easily be changed
to match that one? Exactly.
So, who's good at Wordle?
It's obviously not
that one or that one.
Can't be this one,
either. Yeah
Well, two Fs can be Es.
Yeah, and that P's
gotta be that B.
Yeah, so it's obviously
this one, isn't it?
The M stays the same,
the C changes to an O.
The five to a six.
Seven stays the same.
Two Es and a B.
So, whose car is that?
That car belonged to
..Juliet Cooper.
DS BOULTING WHISTLES
Hass? 'Asif?'
THEY CONVERSE IN OWN LANGUAGE:
That was the hospital.
Marty's mum's recovered
consciousness.
And she just told a nurse
that she stirred the
pills into her own drink.
Why? Said she felt a burden.
Said she felt that he would
get better help without her.
SHE EXHALES HEAVILY
Right, aside from the
burglary dwelling,
let's release him NFA. Yep.
He'll need to be
with her. Mm-hm.
Has anyone seen DI Khan?
I really like you.
I always have, but
you were taken.
But over the last year or so,
as we've got to know each
other better, it's just
..it's just been lovely.
And then the other
night happened.
And then you rang and
rang. And I ran.
As I always have, actually.
So I'm just gonna say
what I'm gonna say,
and then if you don't mind, I'm
gonna go back to work, and
..you can absorb it without
the pressure of me
looking at you?
You're not a serial
killer, are you?
24 years ago, I was in a
relationship with a bloke, and
we'd been together three pretty
unhappy years, and then
..one day, I went out to get
some fags and never came back.
Which was fine. Except
..we had a daughter
who I also left behind.
And who, for many
complicated reasons,
I haven't seen since.
Which is obviously
quite a thing.
That's what I thought
you should know.
And obviously, there
were mental health issues
and court cases and
lots and lots of pain
and I'm sure you have
a million questions,
but as I say, I'm gonna
head back to work now,
but I just wanted you
to know that, and, um
and
..yeah.
Call me if you still
Yeah. Hey. Leanne
DOOR OPENS
DOOR CLOSES
PHONE VIBRATES
Jess. What's happening?
The thing that tripped us up
was the voice message
left on the 24th.
But I'm guessing that was
an old message left for you,
and you just replayed
it into his phone mic,
as you used HIS phone to
call the brewery colleague.
Nice touch driving to Ilford
to make the call, though. Mm.
And when we track
down your old car,
I wonder if we'll find residue
of the marker pen or gaffer tape
you used on the number plate?
No jury would ever
convict on any of that.
Oh, I don't know.
But we'll also speak
to your daughter.
And I have a strong feeling
that based on your intense
desire for us not to
that she saw
something that night.
Or you can tell
us what happened
..and maybe maybe we
don't need to involve Taylor.
I'll tell you.
The marriage had been
broken many years.
He'd changed so much from
the person I met in 2009.
I guess we both changed.
The further he
lurched to the right,
the more I'd provoke him, mostly
deliberately. And end up
..loathing him all afresh.
Why didn't you just
separate? Taylor.
Our finances.
The pandemic. Inertia.
There were always reasons.
Bad ones, but reasons.
And so
..how did it end?
It was the night of the 22nd.
I was cooking. Making
stuff for the freezer.
And he got back late,
after 11, drunk, and
told me he'd be out on the 24th.
I reminded him sarcastically
that that was our wedding
anniversary, and he
..spewed out some
misogyny or other,
and we started to
go at each other.
Taylor was deep asleep
upstairs, thank God.
And as usual, when I
bested him verbally,
which I always did cos it
turns out he was thick
..he'd start getting physical -
pushing me and grabbing my hair.
So, I'd gone to the kitchen table
to try to de-escalate things.
I sat down to continue
chopping and
..without any warning, he
punched the back of my head
..really hard. And it was
..so painful and such a shock
that something in me snapped,
and I-I
..I span round in my chair
..and and sort of punched
the top of his leg
..with a little paring
knife still in my hand.
And he must have been
so surprised himself,
he didn't even come
after me as I bolted,
and I managed to get
to the downstairs loo
and lock myself in.
And I could hear him shouting at
me, calling me a bitch and a whore,
and telling me what he
was going to do to me.
And then I heard him say
he was bleeding badly.
And then it went quiet for
a bit, and and then he
..he called my name,
still quite angrily
and then it just went
quiet. And stayed quiet.
I stayed in the loo for, I
don't know, maybe half an hour.
I didn't come out till I was
sure he'd have calmed down.
I found him on the kitchen
floor in a pool of blood.
Dead.
MARTY: No good crying
over spilt milk, Mum.
Just want you home now.
That's what we're
gonna do, Marty.
Soon as Mum's up and walking,
we'll get her some
help at home, OK?
Yeah? Yeah.
Help at home, that's what
we wanted, isn't it? Yeah?
Home sweet home, Mum.
As soon as I saw he was dead
..in that same instant
I knew
..I would do whatever I needed
to do to protect my daughter.
I would not I could
not leave her alone.
No father, and me in prison.
But I knew I needed to be
very fucking focused
not to get caught.
First up, I used multiple
cloths to mop it up,
put them all into a bucket,
and then everything into
multiple bin liners.
I then stripped all my clothes
off, put them into bin liners,
and then wrapped
Gerry in the same
before dragging him into his
office and locking the door.
In the morning, I took
Taylor to school
..saying Daddy had left
for a work meeting,
and arranged a playdate
for her that evening.
I then went to work,
leaving Gerry's phone on
and charged at home.
My last lecture
finished at three,
then I drove home, stopping
first at an internet cafe
to Google the fuck out of stuff,
then a hardware store,
where I bought
..two new carving
knives, more refuse sacks
and some gaffer tape, with cash.
When I got back to the pub
..I made sure I had a nice chat
with them all then went upstairs.
I dragged Gerry back
into the kitchen
..and I cut him up
into six pieces.
Took less than an hour.
Minimal blood by this
stage, obviously.
Then I wrapped each part
in bin liners, and again,
took off all my clothes,
put them into bin liners,
before showering and
putting on fresh clothes.
I then put Gerry
back in his office,
locked the door, and drove to
pick up Taylor from her playdate.
When she was in the bath
..one by one, I put the bits
of Gerry into a big holdall
and then into the
boot of the car.
I then stirred a
herbal sleeping pill
into a cup of hot chocolate
and put Taylor to bed.
After the pub was shut,
I went and changed the number plate
with cut-up pieces of gaffer tape,
and at 2:30 in the morning,
I drove east to the marshes.
And that's what happened.
Her timeline's
wrong. Her what?
What? What is it?
There. Right?
On the 22nd, he calls
a takeaway at 19:12,
which is about 100 yards
from their flat. Yeah?
And then
he gets this text message confirming
the delivery address for the order
as the flat above their pub.
Well, why would she say that
he didn't get home till 11?
Exactly. Why lie about the timing,
if you've confessed to the murder?
Why do you think?
I think you know.
Taylor, you wouldn't be telling
us anything we don't already know.
Yeah. Yes. Yeah, he hit her.
And did you witness it?
I heard it. Lots of times.
And I saw the
bruises on her body.
But then the last row, I
actually did see it, yeah.
OK.
And can you tell us about it?
Look, whatever's happened,
whatever my mum's
admitted doing,
it would have only
been in self-defence.
We absolutely know that.
I was I was just in my bedroom,
doing some homework, um
and I heard him start
shouting. Roughly what time?
Maybe eight? OK.
So I put my buds in
..but I could still hear him.
And, um, I could hear her
screaming back at him.
And I don't know why, but this
time, I decided to go downstairs.
And she was on the
floor in the kitchen.
She was on her side, and
she kept trying to get up,
but every time
she would, he'd
bring the heel of his boot
down on her ribs really hard.
And, um, she was crying,
and it was horrible.
He had his back to me,
and she was faced away,
so neither of them
saw me, but
I just, I wanted to do
something to stop him
because I thought he
was gonna kill her.
So there was this little
knife on the kitchen table,
and I grabbed it and sort
of jabbed it into his leg.
I'm just gonna have
to quickly caution
It's fi It's fine, it's fine.
There's no need. Um, carry on.
So you you grabbed it,
and you jabbed it in his leg.
Yeah, and he, um, he
cried out in shock.
He swung round, and he saw
me, and he looked so upset.
Um
But then Mum was back up on her
feet, so she grabbed my hand,
and she led me upstairs. And
I just remember looking back
and seeing him watch me go,
holding the back of his leg,
and he just looked really sad.
And then, my mum ran me
a bath upstairs, and
..she read with me, and then
then she stroked me to sleep.
And the next morning, there was a
a Crunchie by the side of my bed.
And, um
Mum said that Dad
had left it for me
and that he had to leave early
for a work meeting, so
..I knew he'd forgiven
me for what I'd done.
And, uh
..did you see him that evening?
No. I had a playdate
after school.
And, um, Mum said that he was
on a work call in his office
and that I wasn't
to disturb him.
And then the next day
was when he went missing.
Oh, my God.
She doesn't know.
No.
Her mother took her upstairs,
she never even saw him bleeding.
I mean what do we even
do with that? Just
What do we do?
OK, so I think we only
really have two options.
We somehow ignore that,
what she just said, let
the mother take the blame.
OK, so Juliet goes
self-defence, gets maybe
four years, out in two? Yeah.
And then we're liable for
perverting the course of justice.
Yes. Or?
We tell the CPS. What
she just told us?
They will almost certainly
decide that charges
are not in the public
interest. Almost certainly.
Well, exactly.
And even even if
they do decide that,
a 14-year-old kid still has
to live with the knowledge
that she killed her own dad.
Do you know what? This is
not our decision to make.
Who the hell else's
is it? It's Juliet's.
No. You do not want the weight
of this on your shoulders.
Please. Jess
..trust me, you do not.
We need to speak to Juliet.
Why would you have interviewed
her? Why would you have done that?
She's been through
so much already.
Why couldn't you just
let me protect her?
Because even taking into account
the circumstances, Juliet,
you might still spend
two years in jail
away from your daughter.
Which is infinitely better
than her spending a
single second there!
Except we don't think she would.
We think a reasonable force
argument would prevail,
and we don't think the CPS
would want to prosecute.
Now, you could then be
charged with unlawful disposal
and perverting the
course of justice
..but again, given
the circumstances,
we don't think the CPS
would want to prosecute,
although that's a risk
you need to consider.
Now obviously, you know, we
can't guarantee anything,
but you can decide
what you want to do.
There's There's no record of
our conversation with Taylor.
We just wanted to let you
know that you have a choice.
Oh, my God.
What would you do?
So for a number of reasons,
this is my last show.
BNC have said it's
because I've been guilty
of "moral turpitude",
and maybe I have,
but I think the real reason
I've been fired is because
I've stopped being able to
say what they want me to say
and believe it.
Now, what they've wanted
me to say was generally
what they thought YOU believed.
And of course, you're entitled
to hold whichever
views you wish,
it is a free country
with free speech,
but I do also want to say this.
Don't you sometimes want to hear
the other side of the debate?
I think a channel
like ours should test
and challenge its
audience sometimes.
I think we should air
contrary positions
to the ones we know you think
because surely, it's only through
a vigorous but respectful
exchange of opinions,
that new ideas,
hopefully better ones,
about how we live our lives
today can begin to develop.
Now, I was pretty angry
when they first fired me,
and I was gonna sit
here and give them
and you both barrels tonight.
But you know what?
Enough rage,
enough division, it's really
not getting us anywhere, is it?
So instead I wish you all love, I
wish you all peace, and for now,
from me, it's good night,
good luck, and God bless.
WOMAN: Thank you, Mel.
MAN: 'Coming up later'
What's happening, Mum?
And you'll lose your
commission, hm? Probably.
Oh, Sam.
Hey, I'm not gonna be
incarcerated on a barge
for the next God knows
how many months, so
I've no regrets.
I took you for granted.
And you being able
to stay here
..us being able to be together is
way more important than my job.
And, uh
SAM CHUCKLES
Fuck it. Um
This is not how I
planned this, um
How would you fancy
marrying me, gorgeous man?
Yes. Yes. Oh.
Yep, OK, understood.
OK, I'll tell them. Thanks. Bye.
Not in the public
interest to charge Taylor.
And Juliet?
Same.
We made a decision
Sometimes, that's
all you can do.
Yeah.
Let's go tell 'em.
Hey. Mel. Hey. How are you?
I'm good, thanks, really good.
Not seen you for a few days.
Uh, no, I've been away for
a bit. But I'm back now.
I'm back. Good.
'Hi, you've reached Leanne.
'Please leave a message
after the tone.'
RECORD MESSAGE TONE
Hey, it's me. Um
so thank you for
telling me what you did.
I'm not sure how you
expected me to react, but
but you seemed pretty
scared, uh, and I get that.
So let's meet, let's, uh, talk
more, let's get drunk more.
We all have our stories, Lea.
Stuff that we did that
we wish was different.
The people that we were
that we wish we weren't.
God knows I have.
So let's meet.
Yeah, let's talk.
Call me, when you're ready.
accessibility@itv.com
We have a match.
Your DNA is on the sweatshirt.
Was it you that attacked Mr
Cooper that night? No comment.
You want me to lie for you.
Just say you don't remember
anything that happened that night.
We're done. No.
After I passed them,
I heard splash.
Anything else?
How about if I check my diary?
Can we get the luminol
in here, please?
The blood on Melinda Ricci's jacket,
it belonged to Gerard Cooper.
You're under arrest on
suspicion of murder.
I didn't do it.
LOCK RATTLES
MUSIC: 'All We
Do' by Oh Wonder
All we do is hide away
All we do is All
we do is hide away
All we do is lie and wait
All we do is All
we do is lie and wait
I've been upside down
I don't wanna be
The right way round
Can't find paradise
On the ground. ♪
What are you doing, Marty?
Whoops-a-daisy.
So can you stop harassing
me and my daughter now?
No-one's been
harassing you, Juliet.
You went behind my back
to my daughter's school.
Yesterday, I had to tell her
you might be interrogating her.
We wanted a brief chat.
THAT is your suspect.
A man who's twice come to our
home equipped to do us violence.
It's not a very big leap, is it,
to work out that he
probably killed Gerry, too?
Come on.
How's my mum?
I need to remind you you're
still under caution, Marty.
Did she die?
No.
But she's very
poorly, I'm afraid.
Oh, Mum. CAR ENGINE STARTS
Yes, that's my jacket.
Are you able to explain why
Mr Cooper's blood is on it?
Because he did hit me.
And on that occasion,
I hit him back.
And where was this?
My flat.
When? February
12th, my birthday.
You were seeing each
other at this point?
That was the night we
split up. Your birthday?
Oh, yeah. Because?
It's a long story.
Here all day.
So, I got pregnant
by him in June 2020.
But at that stage of
my life, having a child
was just not something
I could contemplate
..so I had a termination.
And that night, he came
round I'm sorry.
Father Ryan told me that
you actually had the baby
and gave it up for adoption?
That's an interesting interpretation
of confessional privilege.
Yes, I told Father Ryan that.
Because when I said I'd got
pregnant by a married man,
he slightly shat the bed.
I mean, from everything
that I've read of yours,
from watching some
of your stuff on BNC,
you're a pretty staunch
pro-lifer, aren't you?
I think that terminating
a potential life
is a desperately
sad thing to do.
But bringing a child
into the world
especially now, that
you don't want
..that you don't feel that you
can give the best life to
is so much more sad
..is how I feel.
And I profoundly regret not
saying that out loud before now.
I think it's fair to say that
I'm the worst kind of hypocrite.
And when was it,
the termination?
SHE SNIFFLES
Um
July.
And Cooper knew about it?
Yes, unfortunately.
Why "unfortunately"?
Um, so on on February 12th,
..uh, Gerry called me and said
that he wanted to come round
to give me something.
And idiot me, I still thought
that it was a present, but, um
actually, it was a demand
that I lend him 30 grand.
SHE SNIFFS
I presume then, by this
stage, he knew that
you'd been offered a
contract by BNC? Yes.
And what did you say?
No, of course.
Did you have that
amount of money? No.
I mean, I had a few
thousand saved up,
but nothing near that amount.
And what did he say
when you said no?
He would tell BNC and every
newspaper I'd ever worked for
that this pro-lifer,
devout Catholic,
had broken lockdown rules,
had an affair with a married
man, and had an abortion.
And I told him he was evil.
And he punched me in the face.
And I hit him round the head
with a carving of a duck,
hence the blood.
And then I fled my flat.
And I didn't return until
about three hours later,
this time with a male friend, but
by that time, he'd he'd gone.
And will your friend
testify to that? Mm.
Yeah, I spoke to him yesterday.
I'll give you his details.
Did Cooper ever act
on any of his threats?
Not that I'm aware of, no
but by the time it it'd
come closer to me leaving,
he'd lowered the amount to 5K,
and just to get him off my back,
I agreed to meet him
and make him a transfer.
That was on the
24th of February,
and obviously, he
he never showed.
And then I found out from a mutual
friend that he'd disappeared.
And given everything that had
gone on between us, I just..
I just wanted to get out of
London as quickly as possible.
I'll ask you again,
did you ever liaise
with Juliet Cooper?
Yes, I spoke to her once.
She must have got my number from
his phone, and she she rang me,
it was about a year
before he disappeared.
And she was very unpleasant.
She said that she
would fuck my life up.
But I never I never
met her in person.
RINGS DOOR BELL
Mrs Dowari?
Yes. DS Boulting, Bishop
Street Police Station.
I wonder if you could spare me
five minutes for a quick chat?
'Would she return here voluntarily?'
Well, she said an emphatic "no".
And given any extradition will
take many weeks, I'm heading back.
Well, they've also been some
interesting developments here.
'Yeah? What's happening?'
Almost immediately, it was
clear it wasn't habitable.
Damp started to appear
in both bedrooms,
and the children started to
cough and have permanent colds.
And you feel bad,
complaining, because
we were immigrants
and we had not yet
had the opportunity to give
back to this wonderful country.
But Asif was
brilliant and told us
our children have a
right to live safely.
He was only our interpreter,
but he fought so hard
for us with Mr Cooper.
Except every time Mr Cooper
said he'd fix the damp,
all he ever really
did was paint over it.
And so our son Jamal
got sicker and sicker.
Sorry, how old was
Jamal at this point?
18 months when we moved
in, in September 2020.
Thank you. Please go on.
So he was really poorly
with a lung infection
..and then in late January 2021,
he was actually admitted to
hospital because of his breathing.
And how long was
your son in hospital?
Two weeks and five days.
And then he came home
to your new place?
How do you mean?
When he recovered, he came
home to your new place?
Jamal never came home.
Right.
Sorry, so where did he go?
Jamal died.
Oh, Mrs Dowari. Sorry,
I thought you knew.
He had an acute fungal infection
in his lungs from the damp,
and he died on the
22nd of February, 2021.
Two days before his
second birthday.
I'm so, so sorry. May Allah
comfort you. Thank you.
Do you mind if I just ask
one last question. Please?
Of course.
I presume that Asif wasn't
interpreting for you any more,
in your new place?
No. But you kept in
contact with each other?
Very much so, he had
become a valued friend.
And I'm assuming that he
knew about your son's death?
After our family, he was
the first person we told.
OK, so, obviously, we need
to speak to Asif again.
Yeah. The timing's just too
coincidental, isn't it? Agreed.
Fran? We have triangulation.
Excellent!
OK, so, if you look on the
22nd, that's the Monday,
data puts Cooper in Brighton,
which checks out
with his desk diary -
he was meeting snack suppliers.
Yeah. Then back in
Bow, in the evening,
where he calls a local takeaway.
Yes, got that.
Then the 23rd, he seems to
spend most of the day in Bow,
presumably working
in or above the pub.
OK. Or at least his phone
spent most of the day in Bow.
Well, yeah.
But 13:37 on the 24th,
he makes the call to the
brewery woman to cancel
the four o'clock meeting, and
that call is made in Ilford.
Where was Marty Baines'
flat? Ilford. OK.
So on the day he is
reported missing,
we have Cooper maybe
meeting Marty Baines. Maybe.
And did you actually speak
to the brewery person
who got the voicemail? Yes.
She said it was
definitely Cooper.
OK. So we know he's
alive on the 24th.
Well, yeah, probably.
How do you mean?
There's just this weird thing.
With the voicemail he left her,
she said he called her "babe".
Babe?
She said the message
was something like, um,
"Sorry, babe, can't make
today now, I'll call you."
OK. And do we definitely know that
they were just work colleagues?
I mean, given what
we do know about him.
Oh, yeah. She said they were
definitely just colleagues
and that his language
was inappropriate, so
I don't know.
Something about the timing
of all this is just off.
The dodgy number plates,
this message Mm.
..something Yeah.
One to ponder.
Uh OK, listen, thanks, guys.
Hey. Hi, love. Hi.
Um, Steve's been here,
he took his stuff.
Yeah, I know, I said he could.
No No, it's not that.
It's not that, Jess, I'm
just a bit worried about him.
'He's saying some bad
things.' What things?
Like how he's messed
up his whole life
and he can't see a way
forward. Is he still there?
'No, he left about
ten minutes ago.'
He's found a rental
round the corner. Where?
Um, Larford Street.
Jesus, that's literally
the next fucking road.
'I mean he wouldn't do
anything silly, would he?
'He's not He's
not like that, is he?
'He's not that sort of
person?' No, look, uh,
I'll call him, or I'll
drop by on the way home.
What number was
it again? '25.'
Right, OK. Um, listen,
Mum, I've gotta go.
I'll talk to you
later. OK. Thanks. Bye.
So, how was it?
I don't know if
you're aware of this,
but it rains a lot in Ireland?
You're joking (?)
I've never noticed (!)
Listen, are you OK to go straight
into an interview with Asif Syed?
We've only got two
hours left on the clock.
Yeah. Let's go for it.
And then it'll be straight
into Marty Baines.
Murray sent you the
Dowari statement, I think?
He did, and I've got an idea
on how to approach this.
Great. Fire away.
Since we last spoke,
we have new information
on the Dowari family.
Do you remember Jamal Dowari?
No comment.
Well, according to his mum,
Nahal, you absolutely adored him.
You bought him a play mat for
his first birthday, you
baby-sat him on numerous
occasions, do you remember that?
No comment.
I'm sorry to bring this up
because I can see
you're getting upset,
but do you remember what
caused little Jamal's death?
No comment.
I think you do remember because
you were at the hospital,
helping the Dowari family
understand what was happening
and speaking to the
doctors, weren't you?
HE SNIFFLES
No comment.
You know he died of
a fungal infection,
almost certainly caused
by the conditions
in Gerard Cooper's flat.
No comment.
Do you remember the
day he died, Asif?
He died on the 22nd
of February, 2021,
just two days before
his second birthday
..and less than 48 hours before
Gerard Cooper disappeared.
So, listen, let me
tell you where we are.
I think you're in a
bit of a panic.
I think you see your whole world
collapsing - your citizenship,
your relationship, your
whole life in the UK.
And the truth is, if
you do remain silent,
we would be obliged to seek
the authority to charge you
with the car park assault,
despite us knowing that Gerard
Cooper was a violent man
you may well have had to
defend yourself against.
For your information,
I've spoken to the
police at Barnstable,
and they will not be charging you
with any immigration offences.
Your partner has taken full
responsibility for that.
So we would love to be
able to eliminate you
from our enquiries as well.
We suspect you're a
good man, Asif, but
HE SIGHS
..you need to help us here.
Help us help you.
A few weeks after
Jamal first got sick,
in December, I
I went to see Cooper at his pub
doing a lunch for the homeless.
And there he was
..serving food and handing out
clothes and presents, and
..he was brilliant.
Kind, funny, generous
and just just lovely.
Which is when I realised
..he could be empathetic,
he did have the capacity
for compassion, he just
..he just chose not
to show it to us.
Because he'd
stopped seeing us
..as human.
We had "swarmed over"
in our "hordes".
He saw us as vermin.
The day Jamal got admitted, I
went to see Cooper that night.
I'd taken a a photo
of Jamal on a drip,
and my intention was
just to show him,
to shame him, and naively,
I thought maybe
maybe it would change him.
His reaction at first was
to intimidate me physically,
pushing and shoving
cos he was a bully.
And when that didn't work,
because why would it
with someone like me,
he actually tried to hit me.
I mean, he was out of shape,
and I put him down with
two punches, but
..that was it.
I walked away leaving him groaning
on the ground but very much alive.
So what were you doing in
Juliet Cooper's house, Marty?
I wanted to speak to Taylor.
Right. And what did
you want to say to her?
I wanted to offer her my sincere
condolences for her loss.
You broke into her house late at
night to offer your condolences?
Yes, I did.
You had a screwdriver on
you, Marty, in your bag
and a hammer in your hand
when we intercepted you.
Marty Baines, lock-breaker
extraordinaire.
So you've broken into her
home before, haven't you?
Uh, yes, I have.
Where was that?
Above the pub.
Why'd you do that?
To give her dad a right
sorting out. Marty.
You wanted to do violence
to him? Uh, yes, I did.
Punch him on the hooter.
OK.
So we know that Taylor talked you
out of doing anything that day,
but did you later change
your mind? No. I did not.
At a later date, did
you get angry again
about what he did to you,
and specifically to your dad,
and attack him? No, I did not.
Did you kill him, Marty?
No man has the right
to take another man's
life, DI Sunil Khan.
Can we talk to you about Ilford?
I lived in Ilford.
Yes, we know.
We wanted to ask you
about a particular day.
What day? A day we think that
Gerry Cooper was in Ilford as well.
In 2021, in February,
we wanted ask you if you
remember meeting him in Ilford?
I never met him in Ilford.
Are you sure? Yes, I'm sure.
He never came to your flat?
He never came to my flat.
Cos we have a record of a
phone call he made from Ilford
on the day we think he
might have disappeared.
What day is this? The
24th of February, 2021.
On the 24th of February, I had
Coco Pops and tinned peaches
for breakfast, watched Lorraine
and Homes Under The Hammer,
before walking to City
Airport to watch for planes.
I returned to my flat at 20:55
in time for Kirstie and
Phil on Love It Or List It.
That's very detailed, Marty.
Can I ask you why you have
never told us this before?
You never asked me.
Out of interest, can I ask
you what you did on the 23rd?
On the 23rd of February, I had
Coco Pops and tinned peaches
for breakfast, watched Lorraine
and Homes Under The Hammer,
before walking to City
Airport to watch for planes.
I returned to my flat at 20:35
for The Real CSI at 21:00.
I'd put good money on him
being on that airport CCTV
exactly when he
said he was. Mm.
Boss?
The cyclist's daughter dropped
his diary in. Oh, yeah?
Like he said, it was
3:30 in the morning
when he witnessed the disposal,
but it was 3:30 on the 24th.
No way.
Which obviously begs
a number of questions.
Yeah, just a few. Yeah. The
most obvious one of which
is how the hell does a man leave
a voicemail on someone's phone
..when his dismembered body
had been thrown into the marsh
ten hours before?
So, these
according to DVLA, are
the five number plates
at the time of the murder
of the cars of Asif Syed,
Melinda Ricci, Marty Baines's dad,
Gerry Cooper and Juliet Cooper.
All pretty anonymous
saloons. And this
..is our murder car. Now,
it's possible, I guess,
that the killer could've
acquired fake plates,
but that would have required
a lot of prior planning,
suggests premeditation.
This wasn't premeditated.
No. So my best guess is they
altered their own plates
with marker pen or
tape or whatever.
Changed an F to an E, a three
or a six to an eight, etc.
So basically, which
of these five plates
could most easily be changed
to match that one? Exactly.
So, who's good at Wordle?
It's obviously not
that one or that one.
Can't be this one,
either. Yeah
Well, two Fs can be Es.
Yeah, and that P's
gotta be that B.
Yeah, so it's obviously
this one, isn't it?
The M stays the same,
the C changes to an O.
The five to a six.
Seven stays the same.
Two Es and a B.
So, whose car is that?
That car belonged to
..Juliet Cooper.
DS BOULTING WHISTLES
Hass? 'Asif?'
THEY CONVERSE IN OWN LANGUAGE:
That was the hospital.
Marty's mum's recovered
consciousness.
And she just told a nurse
that she stirred the
pills into her own drink.
Why? Said she felt a burden.
Said she felt that he would
get better help without her.
SHE EXHALES HEAVILY
Right, aside from the
burglary dwelling,
let's release him NFA. Yep.
He'll need to be
with her. Mm-hm.
Has anyone seen DI Khan?
I really like you.
I always have, but
you were taken.
But over the last year or so,
as we've got to know each
other better, it's just
..it's just been lovely.
And then the other
night happened.
And then you rang and
rang. And I ran.
As I always have, actually.
So I'm just gonna say
what I'm gonna say,
and then if you don't mind, I'm
gonna go back to work, and
..you can absorb it without
the pressure of me
looking at you?
You're not a serial
killer, are you?
24 years ago, I was in a
relationship with a bloke, and
we'd been together three pretty
unhappy years, and then
..one day, I went out to get
some fags and never came back.
Which was fine. Except
..we had a daughter
who I also left behind.
And who, for many
complicated reasons,
I haven't seen since.
Which is obviously
quite a thing.
That's what I thought
you should know.
And obviously, there
were mental health issues
and court cases and
lots and lots of pain
and I'm sure you have
a million questions,
but as I say, I'm gonna
head back to work now,
but I just wanted you
to know that, and, um
and
..yeah.
Call me if you still
Yeah. Hey. Leanne
DOOR OPENS
DOOR CLOSES
PHONE VIBRATES
Jess. What's happening?
The thing that tripped us up
was the voice message
left on the 24th.
But I'm guessing that was
an old message left for you,
and you just replayed
it into his phone mic,
as you used HIS phone to
call the brewery colleague.
Nice touch driving to Ilford
to make the call, though. Mm.
And when we track
down your old car,
I wonder if we'll find residue
of the marker pen or gaffer tape
you used on the number plate?
No jury would ever
convict on any of that.
Oh, I don't know.
But we'll also speak
to your daughter.
And I have a strong feeling
that based on your intense
desire for us not to
that she saw
something that night.
Or you can tell
us what happened
..and maybe maybe we
don't need to involve Taylor.
I'll tell you.
The marriage had been
broken many years.
He'd changed so much from
the person I met in 2009.
I guess we both changed.
The further he
lurched to the right,
the more I'd provoke him, mostly
deliberately. And end up
..loathing him all afresh.
Why didn't you just
separate? Taylor.
Our finances.
The pandemic. Inertia.
There were always reasons.
Bad ones, but reasons.
And so
..how did it end?
It was the night of the 22nd.
I was cooking. Making
stuff for the freezer.
And he got back late,
after 11, drunk, and
told me he'd be out on the 24th.
I reminded him sarcastically
that that was our wedding
anniversary, and he
..spewed out some
misogyny or other,
and we started to
go at each other.
Taylor was deep asleep
upstairs, thank God.
And as usual, when I
bested him verbally,
which I always did cos it
turns out he was thick
..he'd start getting physical -
pushing me and grabbing my hair.
So, I'd gone to the kitchen table
to try to de-escalate things.
I sat down to continue
chopping and
..without any warning, he
punched the back of my head
..really hard. And it was
..so painful and such a shock
that something in me snapped,
and I-I
..I span round in my chair
..and and sort of punched
the top of his leg
..with a little paring
knife still in my hand.
And he must have been
so surprised himself,
he didn't even come
after me as I bolted,
and I managed to get
to the downstairs loo
and lock myself in.
And I could hear him shouting at
me, calling me a bitch and a whore,
and telling me what he
was going to do to me.
And then I heard him say
he was bleeding badly.
And then it went quiet for
a bit, and and then he
..he called my name,
still quite angrily
and then it just went
quiet. And stayed quiet.
I stayed in the loo for, I
don't know, maybe half an hour.
I didn't come out till I was
sure he'd have calmed down.
I found him on the kitchen
floor in a pool of blood.
Dead.
MARTY: No good crying
over spilt milk, Mum.
Just want you home now.
That's what we're
gonna do, Marty.
Soon as Mum's up and walking,
we'll get her some
help at home, OK?
Yeah? Yeah.
Help at home, that's what
we wanted, isn't it? Yeah?
Home sweet home, Mum.
As soon as I saw he was dead
..in that same instant
I knew
..I would do whatever I needed
to do to protect my daughter.
I would not I could
not leave her alone.
No father, and me in prison.
But I knew I needed to be
very fucking focused
not to get caught.
First up, I used multiple
cloths to mop it up,
put them all into a bucket,
and then everything into
multiple bin liners.
I then stripped all my clothes
off, put them into bin liners,
and then wrapped
Gerry in the same
before dragging him into his
office and locking the door.
In the morning, I took
Taylor to school
..saying Daddy had left
for a work meeting,
and arranged a playdate
for her that evening.
I then went to work,
leaving Gerry's phone on
and charged at home.
My last lecture
finished at three,
then I drove home, stopping
first at an internet cafe
to Google the fuck out of stuff,
then a hardware store,
where I bought
..two new carving
knives, more refuse sacks
and some gaffer tape, with cash.
When I got back to the pub
..I made sure I had a nice chat
with them all then went upstairs.
I dragged Gerry back
into the kitchen
..and I cut him up
into six pieces.
Took less than an hour.
Minimal blood by this
stage, obviously.
Then I wrapped each part
in bin liners, and again,
took off all my clothes,
put them into bin liners,
before showering and
putting on fresh clothes.
I then put Gerry
back in his office,
locked the door, and drove to
pick up Taylor from her playdate.
When she was in the bath
..one by one, I put the bits
of Gerry into a big holdall
and then into the
boot of the car.
I then stirred a
herbal sleeping pill
into a cup of hot chocolate
and put Taylor to bed.
After the pub was shut,
I went and changed the number plate
with cut-up pieces of gaffer tape,
and at 2:30 in the morning,
I drove east to the marshes.
And that's what happened.
Her timeline's
wrong. Her what?
What? What is it?
There. Right?
On the 22nd, he calls
a takeaway at 19:12,
which is about 100 yards
from their flat. Yeah?
And then
he gets this text message confirming
the delivery address for the order
as the flat above their pub.
Well, why would she say that
he didn't get home till 11?
Exactly. Why lie about the timing,
if you've confessed to the murder?
Why do you think?
I think you know.
Taylor, you wouldn't be telling
us anything we don't already know.
Yeah. Yes. Yeah, he hit her.
And did you witness it?
I heard it. Lots of times.
And I saw the
bruises on her body.
But then the last row, I
actually did see it, yeah.
OK.
And can you tell us about it?
Look, whatever's happened,
whatever my mum's
admitted doing,
it would have only
been in self-defence.
We absolutely know that.
I was I was just in my bedroom,
doing some homework, um
and I heard him start
shouting. Roughly what time?
Maybe eight? OK.
So I put my buds in
..but I could still hear him.
And, um, I could hear her
screaming back at him.
And I don't know why, but this
time, I decided to go downstairs.
And she was on the
floor in the kitchen.
She was on her side, and
she kept trying to get up,
but every time
she would, he'd
bring the heel of his boot
down on her ribs really hard.
And, um, she was crying,
and it was horrible.
He had his back to me,
and she was faced away,
so neither of them
saw me, but
I just, I wanted to do
something to stop him
because I thought he
was gonna kill her.
So there was this little
knife on the kitchen table,
and I grabbed it and sort
of jabbed it into his leg.
I'm just gonna have
to quickly caution
It's fi It's fine, it's fine.
There's no need. Um, carry on.
So you you grabbed it,
and you jabbed it in his leg.
Yeah, and he, um, he
cried out in shock.
He swung round, and he saw
me, and he looked so upset.
Um
But then Mum was back up on her
feet, so she grabbed my hand,
and she led me upstairs. And
I just remember looking back
and seeing him watch me go,
holding the back of his leg,
and he just looked really sad.
And then, my mum ran me
a bath upstairs, and
..she read with me, and then
then she stroked me to sleep.
And the next morning, there was a
a Crunchie by the side of my bed.
And, um
Mum said that Dad
had left it for me
and that he had to leave early
for a work meeting, so
..I knew he'd forgiven
me for what I'd done.
And, uh
..did you see him that evening?
No. I had a playdate
after school.
And, um, Mum said that he was
on a work call in his office
and that I wasn't
to disturb him.
And then the next day
was when he went missing.
Oh, my God.
She doesn't know.
No.
Her mother took her upstairs,
she never even saw him bleeding.
I mean what do we even
do with that? Just
What do we do?
OK, so I think we only
really have two options.
We somehow ignore that,
what she just said, let
the mother take the blame.
OK, so Juliet goes
self-defence, gets maybe
four years, out in two? Yeah.
And then we're liable for
perverting the course of justice.
Yes. Or?
We tell the CPS. What
she just told us?
They will almost certainly
decide that charges
are not in the public
interest. Almost certainly.
Well, exactly.
And even even if
they do decide that,
a 14-year-old kid still has
to live with the knowledge
that she killed her own dad.
Do you know what? This is
not our decision to make.
Who the hell else's
is it? It's Juliet's.
No. You do not want the weight
of this on your shoulders.
Please. Jess
..trust me, you do not.
We need to speak to Juliet.
Why would you have interviewed
her? Why would you have done that?
She's been through
so much already.
Why couldn't you just
let me protect her?
Because even taking into account
the circumstances, Juliet,
you might still spend
two years in jail
away from your daughter.
Which is infinitely better
than her spending a
single second there!
Except we don't think she would.
We think a reasonable force
argument would prevail,
and we don't think the CPS
would want to prosecute.
Now, you could then be
charged with unlawful disposal
and perverting the
course of justice
..but again, given
the circumstances,
we don't think the CPS
would want to prosecute,
although that's a risk
you need to consider.
Now obviously, you know, we
can't guarantee anything,
but you can decide
what you want to do.
There's There's no record of
our conversation with Taylor.
We just wanted to let you
know that you have a choice.
Oh, my God.
What would you do?
So for a number of reasons,
this is my last show.
BNC have said it's
because I've been guilty
of "moral turpitude",
and maybe I have,
but I think the real reason
I've been fired is because
I've stopped being able to
say what they want me to say
and believe it.
Now, what they've wanted
me to say was generally
what they thought YOU believed.
And of course, you're entitled
to hold whichever
views you wish,
it is a free country
with free speech,
but I do also want to say this.
Don't you sometimes want to hear
the other side of the debate?
I think a channel
like ours should test
and challenge its
audience sometimes.
I think we should air
contrary positions
to the ones we know you think
because surely, it's only through
a vigorous but respectful
exchange of opinions,
that new ideas,
hopefully better ones,
about how we live our lives
today can begin to develop.
Now, I was pretty angry
when they first fired me,
and I was gonna sit
here and give them
and you both barrels tonight.
But you know what?
Enough rage,
enough division, it's really
not getting us anywhere, is it?
So instead I wish you all love, I
wish you all peace, and for now,
from me, it's good night,
good luck, and God bless.
WOMAN: Thank you, Mel.
MAN: 'Coming up later'
What's happening, Mum?
And you'll lose your
commission, hm? Probably.
Oh, Sam.
Hey, I'm not gonna be
incarcerated on a barge
for the next God knows
how many months, so
I've no regrets.
I took you for granted.
And you being able
to stay here
..us being able to be together is
way more important than my job.
And, uh
SAM CHUCKLES
Fuck it. Um
This is not how I
planned this, um
How would you fancy
marrying me, gorgeous man?
Yes. Yes. Oh.
Yep, OK, understood.
OK, I'll tell them. Thanks. Bye.
Not in the public
interest to charge Taylor.
And Juliet?
Same.
We made a decision
Sometimes, that's
all you can do.
Yeah.
Let's go tell 'em.
Hey. Mel. Hey. How are you?
I'm good, thanks, really good.
Not seen you for a few days.
Uh, no, I've been away for
a bit. But I'm back now.
I'm back. Good.
'Hi, you've reached Leanne.
'Please leave a message
after the tone.'
RECORD MESSAGE TONE
Hey, it's me. Um
so thank you for
telling me what you did.
I'm not sure how you
expected me to react, but
but you seemed pretty
scared, uh, and I get that.
So let's meet, let's, uh, talk
more, let's get drunk more.
We all have our stories, Lea.
Stuff that we did that
we wish was different.
The people that we were
that we wish we weren't.
God knows I have.
So let's meet.
Yeah, let's talk.
Call me, when you're ready.
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