My Ghost Story (2010) s06e07 Episode Script
Screams in the Castle
Foote: I COULD SEE SOMETHING IN THE WINDOW.
AS I ZOOMED IN ON IT, I COULD SEE A GENTLEMAN'S FACE STARING RIGHT AT ME.
Culp: IT WAS CHANGING SHAPE, AND THEN IT DISAPPEARED.
Foote: KNOWING THAT SOMEBODY WAS STARING REALLY FREAKED ME OUT.
McCaslin: WE ASKED IF I HAS BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
Laubinger: THE LIGHT CAME RIGHT ON.
IT WASN'T SOME KIND OF MALFUNCTION.
IT WAS BEING MANIPULATED BY ENERGY.
DEFINITELY GIVES YOU THE CHILLS.
Natalie: A STRANGE LIGHT ANOMALY SWIRLED ONTO THE SCREEN.
Katrina: THE ATMOSPHERE QUICKLY CHANGED.
IT BECAME COLDER.
THERE WAS SHADOWS MOVING AROUND EDGES OF THE ROOM.
Natalie: I WAS REALLY SCARED.
IT'S QUITE BONE-CHILLING.
Landolfi: I TURNED AROUND, AND I SNAPPED ANOTHER PICTURE.
IN FRONT OF THE DRESSER, THERE'S THIS MIST.
IT WAS LITERALLY TRAVELING AROUND THE ROOM.
Miller: WHAT I'M ACTUALLY HEARING AND SEEING IS REALLY THERE.
Barnett: THE MEDIUM ARCHED HER BACK AND SCREAMED.
Woman: [ SHRIEKS .]
Barnett: AND THEN SHE SAID Padgett: SHE HAS CLEARLY BEEN AFFECTED BY SOMETHING THAT HAS OVERWHELMED ALL OF HER SENSES.
Barnett: EVERY TIME THAT I FELT SOMETHING, I WOULD START TAKING PICTURES.
Padgett: THE MEDIUM CHANNELS MR.
RATLIFFE.
Barnett: WE WERE ALL SHAKING.
Barnett: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I MOVED INTO MY HOME IN SAN MARCOS, TEXAS.
WHEN WE MOVED INTO THE HOUSE, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS CAME OVER TO INTRODUCE HERSELF, AND SHE TOLD US THAT BACK IN THE '70s, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE AT THE TIME FOUND HUMAN REMAINS IN THE BACK GARDEN.
THERE WAS A TOMBSTONE THAT WAS FOUND, AS WELL, THAT WAS LEANED UP AGAINST THE HOUSE FOR AWHILE, AND THEY NAMED THE HOUSE "THE BONEYARD," AND IT JUST KIND OF STUCK.
JOHN AND I MET IN COLLEGE.
HE'S A DEAR FRIEND OF MINE.
A COUPLE YEARS AGO, HE NEEDED A PLACE TO STAY, SO I OFFERED THE UPSTAIRS APARTMENT IN OUR HOUSE.
Padgett: LOOKS LIKE JUST ANOTHER TURN-OF-THE-CENTURY HOUSE THAT'S INDICATIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LIVE IN WITH A MAJOR EXCEPTION.
THE WOMAN WHO ORIGINALLY BUILT IT, MRS.
RATLIFFE, AND HER BROTHER LIVED IN THIS HOUSE, AND WHEN SHE DIED, HE BURIED HER IN THE BACKYARD SO HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE CEMETERY TO VISIT HER.
NOW, WITH ALL THE ADDITIONS THA HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE HOUSE, SHE'S NOW RESTING IN PEACE BENEATH THE MASTER BATHROOM.
AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY A PRESENCE IN THE HOUSE THAT YOU CAN FEEL.
YOU CAN PHYSICALLY FEEL IT.
Barnett: FIRST THING I CAN SAY THAT I NOTICED WAS A MALE PRESENCE.
AND HE WOULD ALWAYS WALK WITHIN THE SAME PLACES.
THERE WAS A SENSE OF DREAD.
THE CATALYST FOR ME WAS ONE NIGHT, MY HUSBAND RAN INTO THE NURSERY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGH TO GET THE BABY, AND HE CAME BACK INTO OUR BEDROOM, AND HE WAS HOLDING THE BABY LIKE THIS, AND HE WAS SHAKING.
AND I GRABBED THE BABY AND I SAID, "WHAT'S WRONG, HONEY?" AND HE SAID, "THERE'S WHITE FLASHES IN HIS CRIB.
THE LIGHTS ARE OFF.
IT IS LIGHT IN THERE.
" AND HE STARTED YELLING TO LEAVE THE HOUSE.
MY HUSBAND IS NOT A BELIEVER, SO FOR HIM TO DO THIS WAS SIGNIFICANT.
AFTER THAT EVENT, I DECIDED, YOU KNOW, IF THIS THING'S GONNA MESS WITH MY KIDS, I'M GONNA LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
I DECIDED THAT EVERY TIME THAT I FELT SOMETHING, I WOULD START TAKING PICTURES [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS .]
AND INEVITABLY THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING IN THEM.
Padgett: IF YOU SIT THE CAMERA DOWN LONG ENOUGH, YOU'LL CATCH AN ORB ALMOST EVERYWHERE.
IT'S OVERWHELMING PROOF THAT THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A HUB OF PARANORMAL ACTIVITY THAT WE LIVE IN.
Barnett: THESE PHOTOS CONFIRM THA WE'RE NOT ALONE IN OUR HOUSE.
IT FREAKED ME OUT, TO BE HONEST.
AND THEN ONE AFTERNOON, MY DOG BROUGHT IN A VERY BIG BONE FROM THE BACKYARD.
Padgett: TURNED OUT TO BE A CLAVICLE -- A HUMAN CLAVICLE.
SO, NO ONE KNOWS WHERE IT CAME FROM.
HOWEVER, WE ALL BELIEVE IT'S PART OF THE BODY THAT'S BURIED BENEATH THE HOUSE.
Barnett: WE THOUGHT IT COULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF MRS.
RATLIFFE'S BONES.
I STARTED TAKING PICTURES, AND ONE OF THE PICTURES CAME OU WITH A FACE ON THE DOG FLAP.
AND IT WASN'T JUST A FACE, IT WAS A SCARY MALE FACE.
I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I SAW THAT PHOTO.
THE FACE IS INTRICATE.
YOU CAN SEE EYE SOCKETS AND EXPRESSION.
Padgett: WHEN I SAW THAT PHOTO, I WAS SPEECHLESS.
THAT COULD BE THE VISAGE OF MR.
RATLIFFE BECAUSE OF THE CLAVICLE.
PERHAPS MR.
RATLIFFE IS BURIED THERE, TOO.
WE DON'T KNOW ANY DIFFERENT.
Barnett: MORE ACTIVITY SEEMED TO HAPPEN AFTER THE DOG DRUG IN THE BONE.
Padgett: JENNIFER HIRED A GROUP TO COME IN AND DO A READING.
Barnett: I WANTED TO PROVE THA THESE EXPERIENCES WERE REAL.
WHEN THE TEAM CAME OVER, THEY FELT DRAWN TO MY BEDROOM, AND THEY SET UP THEIR EVP CAMERAS, AND, SURE ENOUGH, THEY CAUGHT A MALE VOICE.
Padgett: CLEAR AS A BELL, THE WORDS "I LIKE YOU.
" THAT FREAKED ME THE [BLEEP.]
OUT.
Barnett: WHEN I HEARD THE VOICE, I WAS RELIEVED BECAUSE IT WAS CONCRETE EVIDENCE.
Padgett: AFTER THAT, THERE WAS ANOTHER EVP OF SOMEONE SAYING, "HELP.
" MY BELIEF IS THAT MR.
RATLIFFE DID SOMETHING TO MRS.
RATLIFFE, AND SHE IS NOW TRAPPED THERE BY HIM AND IS NOW CALLING OUT FOR HELP.
Barnett: WHEN I HEARD THAT EVP, IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE SOMEBODY NEEDED ASSISTANCE.
I THINK IT WAS MRS.
RATLIFFE, AND I DECIDED TO CALL IN A MEDIUM.
WHEN THE MEDIUM WALKED IN, SHE IMMEDIATELY STARTED PICKING UP ON MR.
RATLIFFE.
SHE IMMEDIATELY STARTED PICKING UP ON THE FAC THAT HE DID NOT LIKE WOMEN, AND THAT HE WAS GUARDING THE PROPERTY.
MR.
RATLIFFE WASN'T GIVING UP ANY INFORMATION FOR HER.
AND, SO, FINALLY, ONE OF THE GIRLS LEANED OVER AND WHISPERED TO ME, "DO YOU KNOW HIS NAME?" AND I SAID, "YES.
HIS NAME IS RATLIFFE.
" AT WHICH POINT, THE MEDIUM ARCHED HER BACK.
HER HANDS TURNED INTO, LIKE, CLAWS, AND SHE BENT OVER, AND SHE SCREAMED.
Woman: [ SHRIEKS .]
OH, MY GOD.
AND THEN SHE TURNED AROUND AND SHE SAID THE MEDIUM WAS REALLY SWEE WHEN SHE ARRIVED.
AND AT THAT MOMENT, THERE WAS SO MUCH AGGRESSION AND HATE IN THAT SPACE.
IT WASN'T HER.
IT WAS TERRIFYING.
Padgett: IT WAS ABSOLUTELY MR.
RATLIFFE, AND SHE CHANNELS HIM.
HE TAKES CONTROL OF HER BODY.
SHE FINALLY STOPS FLIPPING OUT, AND AT THAT POINT, SHE IS SHAKEN.
SHE IS CLEARLY NOT IN A GOOD PLACE.
Woman: [ SHRIEKS .]
Barnett: THE MEDIUM SAID THAT HE GOT INSIDE OF HER AND TOOK OVER HER BODY AND USED HER FACE FOR HIS WORDS, USED HER EXPRESSION FOR HIS HATE, AND SHE FELT EXTREMELY VIOLATED.
Padgett: THE PERSON THAT I SAW BEFORE I WEN AND THE PERSON THAT I SAW WHEN I GOT BACK WAS NOT THE SAME PERSON.
SHE HAS CLEARLY BEEN AFFECTED BY SOMETHING THAT HAS OVERWHELMED ALL OF HER SENSES.
Barnett: AFTER THAT SESSION, WE WERE SHAKING.
WE WERE ALL SHAKING.
IT WAS AWFUL.
Padgett: THIS PERSON COULD NO HAVE CONTORTED THEIR FACE AND CHANGED THEIR ACTIVITY ON THE TURN OF A DIME LIKE THA UNLESS SOMETHING DRAMATIC HAD HAPPENED TO THEM.
Barnett: IT'S COMFORTING TO KNOW THAT THERE'S LIFE AFTER WE PASS ON.
Padgett: YOU'VE GOT SO MUCH COMPELLING AND OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE.
I DON'T HAVE TO LIFT A FINGER TO PROVE WHAT I SEE OR WHAT I'VE SEEN.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY MUCH MORE HERE THAN WE KNOW AND WE'LL POSSIBLY EVER KNOW.
Barnett: SPIRITS ARE EVERYWHERE.
I'M NOT GONNA BE CHASED OUT OF MY OWN HOME BECAUSE SOMEBODY DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO MOVE ON.
Laubinger: YOU WERE NOT ALONE FROM THE SECOND YOU WALKED IN THERE.
McCaslin: WE ASKED IF I HAS BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT TURNED ON.
DID YOU HEAR THAT? IT WAS DEFINITELY IN THE ROOM WITH US.
Laubinger: HE WANTED US TO LEAVE NOW.
Laubinger: YOU WERE NOT ALONE FROM THE SECOND YOU WALKED IN THERE.
McCaslin: DID YOU HEAR THAT? IT WAS DEFINITELY IN THE ROOM WITH US.
Laubinger: HE WANTED US TO LEAVE NOW.
McCaslin: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I INVESTIGATED THE NAVAJO COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN HOLBROOK, ARIZONA.
BRIAN IS MY PARTNER.
WE WORK TOGETHER.
WE HAD AN INTERES IN THE PARANORMAL AND JUST KIND OF DECIDED ONE DAY, "HEY, LET'S GE A GROUP TOGETHER.
" Laubinger: SO, WE CAME WITH OUR LITTLE GROUP, AND THINGS STARTED ROLLING AFTER THAT.
McCaslin: WE GOT A PHONE CALL FROM THE NAVAJO COUNTY HISTORICAL MUSEUM.
THE EMPLOYEES TOLD US STORIES ABOUT DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND SEEING A WOMAN STARING OUT THE WINDOW.
EVEN THE COPS WHO DRIVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT NIGH WILL SEE LIGHTS TURN ON MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
NO ONE'S THERE WORKING.
THEY'VE NEVER HAD A TEAM OUT THERE, AND WOULD BE INTERESTED IN US COMING OUT AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN GET.
WE'VE NEVER INVESTIGATED ANYTHING TO THAT SCALE, SO TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, IT GOT US PRETTY EXCITED.
Laubinger: AND I HAD HEARD OF THE PLACE IN THE PAST.
I'D DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH ABOUT IT.
THE NAVAJO COUNTY COURTHOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1898.
HOLBROOK WAS CONSIDERED TO BE ONE OF THE ROUGHEST TOWNS IN THE OLD WEST.
McCaslin: THE WOMAN THA IS BELIEVED TO BE HAUNTING THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM IS A WOMAN BY THE NAME OF MARY.
Laubinger: MARY WAS A PROSTITUTE WHO WAS PRETTY NOTORIOUS.
APPARENTLY SHE WAS BEING BEATEN BY ONE OF HER CLIENTS.
SHE'D HAD ENOUGH.
SHE KILLED HIM [GUNSHOT.]
AND SHE ENDED UP IN SOLITARY CELL IN THE COURTHOUSE.
McCaslin: SHE ACTUALLY HUNG HERSELF IN HER JAIL CELL BEFORE OLD AGE TOOK HER LIFE.
THERE'S ANOTHER MAN BY THE NAME OF GEORGE SMILEY.
Laubinger: HE WORKED FOR THE RAILROAD, AND, APPARENTLY, HE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH HIS BOSS OVER WAGES.
OUT OF A FIT OF RAGE, HE JUS SHOT HIS BOSS [GUNSHOT.]
COLD BLOOD.
McCaslin: HE WAS ACTUALLY THE ONLY PERSON TO BE HUNG ON THE PROPERTY BY COURT ORDERED.
WE WERE ACTUALLY THERE 112 YEARS TO THE DAY OF HIS HANGING.
WE GOT TO THE COURTHOUSE ABOUT 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.
MY FIRST IMPRESSION OF THE COURTHOUSE, JUST FROM SEEING IT ON THE OUTSIDE, WAS, "WELL, WE GOT OUR HANDS FULL TONIGHT.
" Laubinger: I COULD FEEL THE HISTORY.
YOU CERTAINLY WERE NOT ALONE FROM THE SECOND YOU WALKED IN THERE.
McCaslin: YOU COULD FEEL THE PRESENCE.
THEY CLOSED IN THE EVENING HOURS.
WE STARTED SETTING UP.
WE HAD SIX INFRARED CAMERAS, PLENTY OF DIGITAL RECORDERS, EMF DETECTORS, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
SO, WE START IN SOLITARY TO CONDUCT A FLASHLIGHT SESSION.
BASICALLY WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS GET A MAGLITE.
WE'LL SET IT DOWN, WE'LL ASK YES-OR-NO QUESTIONS, AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THE SPIRI TO MANIPULATE THE FLASHLIGH IN ANY WAY TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.
Laubinger: THE FLASHLIGHT TRICK HAD NEVER WORKED FOR US EVER.
McCaslin: WE ASKED IF IT HAS BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
LIGHT CAME RIGHT ON.
IT TURNED ON BRIGHT AS COULD BE, AND THE CHILL THAT WENT DOWN MY SPINE WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
Laubinger: OBVIOUSLY, IT WASN' SOME KIND OF MALFUNCTION OF THE FLASHLIGHT.
IT WAS BEING MANIPULATED BY ENERGY.
McCaslin: WE ASKED THE SPIRIT IF I ENJOYED THE COMPANY OF A WOMAN, AND NOTHING HAPPENED.
SO WE WAITED A FEW SECONDS AND IT TURNED ON.
Laubinger: YOU COULD VISUALLY SEE I JUST KIND OF SLOWLY GAINING POWER.
I DO BELIEVE THA IT WAS THE SPIRIT OF MARY THAT TURNED THE FLASHLIGHT ON, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE QUESTION I ASKED.
DEFINITELY GIVES YOU THE CHILLS.
McCaslin: FROM THERE, WE WENT UPSTAIRS TO MARY'S ROOM.
BEING THAT PEOPLE HAVE SEEN A WOMAN IN THAT WINDOW, THEY KIND OF BUIL A ROOM DEDICATED TO HER, AND BASICALLY AN OFFERING THAT SHE CAN STAY THERE.
SINCE SHE WAS A PROSTITUTE, WE BROUGHT SOME FOOL'S GOLD WITH US.
WE SET THE FOOL'S GOLD DOWN ON THE TABLE IN THE SHAPE OF AN "M" TO TRY TO ENTICE HER SOME WAY.
MAYBE SHE WOULD TAKE IT.
FROM THERE, WE WENT DOWN INTO GEORGE'S CELL TO SEE IF WE CAN CAPTURE ANYTHING IN THERE.
WE WERE IN GEORGE SMILEY'S CELL AT 112 YEARS TO THE DATE OF HIS HANGING.
WE ASKED GEORGE, "IF YOU WAN TO COMMUNICATE WITH US, COULD YOU KNOCK, MAKE ANY KIND OF NOISES?" AND WE CAPTURED AN EVP OF A SPIRIT SAYING MY NAME REAL QUICK.
JUST, "BRANDON.
" Laubinger: I ASKED BRANDON, "DID YOU HEAR THAT?" AND HE GOES, "YEAH, I DID.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOU.
" McCaslin: IT'S PRETTY FREAKY WHEN SOMETHING'S TRYING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION BY ACTUALLY SAYING YOUR NAME.
WE COULDN'T QUITE FIGURE OU WHAT DIRECTION IT CAME FROM, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY IN THE ROOM WITH US.
Laubinger: IT WAS VERY CLEAR, AND THAT DEFINITELY CREEPED ME OUT.
AND AFTER THAT, I DECIDED TO TAKE ANOTHER VENUE AND STARTED TO PLAY THE KNOCK GAME.
McCaslin: WE SAID, "IF YOU WAN US TO STAY, KNOCK TWICE.
IF YOU WANT US TO GO, KNOCK ONCE.
" IT WASN'T FIVE SECONDS LATER, THE LOUDEST BANG I HEARD ALL NIGHT.
WE WALK OUT OF GEORGE'S CELL, AND AS SOON AS WE GE TO THE END OF THE HALLWAY, OUR CAMERA'S KNOCKED OVER.
Laubinger: TURNED OUT THAT THE KNOCK WAS ACTUALLY OUR INFRARED CAMERA BEING KNOCKED OVER, RIGHT ON CUE.
McCaslin: I HAVE NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE WERE COMMUNICATING WITH THE SPIRIT OF GEORGE.
Laubinger: HE WANTED US TO LEAVE NOW.
ON OUR WAY OUT, WE CAPTURED A RECORDING.
I DISCOVERED IT LATER.
AND WHEN I LISTENED TO IT, IT REALLY FREAKED ME OUT.
McCaslin: "I WANT TO BLOW YOUR HEAD OFF.
BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.
" Laubinger: IT HAD AN ANGRY OVERTONE TO IT.
I BELIEVE THIS WAS THE SPIRIT OF GEORGE SMILEY KILLING HIS BOSS.
[ GUNSHOT .]
Laubinger: OUR PRESENCE MIGHT HAVE REALLY GOT HIM MORE ANGRY THAN HE ALREADY WAS.
McCaslin: AT THAT POINT, WE GO INTO THE COURTROOM.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR AVERAGE COURTROOM THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON TV.
WE'RE STANDING IN THERE, LOOKING AROUND, TAKING SOME PICTURES, AND I FEEL A COLD SPO JUST GO RIGHT BEHIND MY BACK.
AS SOON AS I FELT IT, I LOOKED AT BRIAN.
Laubinger: IT APPEARED TO GO THROUGH HIM AND RIGHT THROUGH ME.
NOT ONLY WAS IT COLD, BUT IT HAD THIS ELECTROSTATIC CHARGE TO I THAT BASICALLY MADE ALL THE HAIR ON MY BODY STAND UP.
McCaslin: AND BRIAN LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAID, "I DON'T THINK WE'RE ALONE RIGHT NOW.
" Laubinger: ALL OF A SUDDEN OUT OF NOWHERE, IT SOUNDS AS IF A LARGE CAN WAS ROLLING DOWN THE STREET.
JUST BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG.
THERE CERTAINLY WASN'T ENOUGH WIND TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL THIS BANGING.
McCaslin: WE LOOKED OUT THE WINDOW, WE COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING, SO WE RAN DOWNSTAIRS TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND THE NOISE.
WE HAD A RECORDER IN THE SOLITARY JAIL, AND THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM.
IT WAS VERY, VERY LOUD.
Laubinger: TO ME, IT ALMOST SOUNDED AS IF SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO GET ATTENTION.
WE HAD BEEN AWAY FROM THE SOLITARY FOR OVER AN HOUR, SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN MARY'S ATTEMP TO GET US BACK DOWN IN THERE.
McCaslin: WE DECIDED TO GO BACK UP TO MARY'S ROOM, AND ON OUR RETURN, THE FOOL'S GOLD THAT WE PUT ON THE TABLE IN THE SHAPE OF AN "M" WAS ALL MIXED AROUND, AS IF SOMEBODY HAD MOVED IT.
WE HAD A CAMERA LOOKING A THE ENTRANCE TO HER ROOM, SO IF SOMEBODY HAD GONE IN OR OUT, WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT.
THE ONLY CONCLUSION I COULD COME UP WITH WAS THAT THE SPIRIT OF MARY WANTED TO TAKE OUR PAYMENT FOR HER SERVICES.
THIS EXPERIENCE ON THIS INVESTIGATION WAS DIFFEREN FROM ANYTHING I'VE EVER DONE, BEING THAT I FELT THEIR PAIN, AND I REALLY FEL WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE THERE BACK IN THE DAY.
Laubinger: THESE ARE REALLY PEOPLE.
YOU JUST CAN'T SEE THEM.
AND THEY CHOOSE TO INTERAC WITH YOU ON THEIR TERMS.
MARY, GEORGE, THEY'LL MAKE THEIR PRESENCE KNOWN IMMEDIATELY.
McCaslin: MY EXPERIENCE IN THIS COURTHOUSE HAS HELPED ME BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS LIFE AFTER DEATH AND THERE'S NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF WHETHER IT BE HERE ON EARTH OR BEYOND.
Katrina: THE FEAR STARTED TO BUILD UP.
Natalie: SUDDENLY, A STRANGE LIGHT ANOMALY SWIRLED ONTO THE SCREEN.
WE KNEW THE MAN WAS THERE, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS CAPABLE OF THAT.
Katrina: THEY WERE PLACING THEMSELVES IN THE DOORWAYS, BLOCKING OUR EXIT.
Natalie: I THINK WE'D HAD ENOUGH.
Katrina: THE FEAR STARTED TO BUILD UP.
Natalie: SUDDENLY, A STRANGE LIGHT ANOMALY SWIRLED ONTO THE SCREEN.
Katrina: THERE WERE SPIRITS AROUND US, BLOCKING OUR EXIT.
Natalie: I THINK WE'D HAD ENOUGH.
Katrina: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN MY SISTER AND I INVESTIGATED A HAUNTED SCOTTISH CASTLE.
NATALIE'S MY LITTLE SISTER.
SHE'S SEVEN YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME, AND WE HAVE A JOINT INTERES IN THE PARANORMAL IN OUR SPARE TIME.
Natalie: WE DECIDED TO INVESTIGATE CASTLE MENZIES TO CAPTURE SOME EVIDENCE OF THE PARANORMAL.
Katrina: CASTLE MENZIES IS A 16th-CENTURY CASTLE.
IT'S BUILT ON THE ORIGINAL SITE OF AN EARLIER CASTLE THAT WAS BURNT DOWN AT THE START OF THE 1500s.
AND IT WAS BUIL AS A FORTIFICATION, AND ALSO AS A HOUSE FOR THE CLAN CHIEF.
WE DROVE UP TO THE CASTLE, AND THERE'S A GREAT, BIG, LONG DRIVEWAY, WHICH MEANDERS UP TO THE MAIN DOOR.
EVERY WINDOW WAS ABLAZE WITH LIGHT, BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY LOOK WELCOMING, WHICH WAS REALLY STRANGE.
AND AS WE GOT CLOSER AND CLOSER, THE FEAR STARTED TO BUILD UP.
WE'RE GONNA BE IN THERE OVERNIGHT IN THE DARK.
THE CASTLE'S QUITE HUGE.
IT'S GOT FOUR FLOORS AND NUMEROUS ROOMS.
Natalie: WE WEN UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR, WHICH IS WHERE THE CLAN CHIEF'S BEDROOM IS.
Katrina: THE CLAN CHIEF WAS POWERFUL IN HIS DAY.
HE COULD CALL PEOPLE TO ARMS.
HE COULD SEND PEOPLE TO WAR.
HE COULD TRY PEOPLE AND METE OUT JUSTICE.
Natalie: AND HE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN CHARGE OF EVERYBODY, OF ALL THEIR DAILY ASPECTS OF THEIR LIFE.
Katrina: THE CLAN'S CHIEF ROOM HAD THAT KIND OF SPOOKY FEEL TO IT BEFORE YOU EVEN GOT THERE.
Natalie: IT'S QUITE A SPARSE ROOM.
IT HAS A WOODEN FLOOR, WHITEWASHED WALLS, JUST A DOUBLE BED, AND A FIREPLACE.
OUR PSYCHIC WHO WAS WITH US, TULLY, SHE PICKED UP ON A MAN IN THE ROOM WATCHING US.
AND SHE DESCRIBED HIM AS BEING OLDER WITH DARK HAIR, AND THAT HE WAS REALLY ANGRY, VERY UNHAPPY THAT WE WERE THERE.
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE THE CHIEF SINCE IT WAS HIS BEDROOM.
NOBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED IN THERE.
IN ORDER TO TRY AND COMMUNICATE IN A DIFFERENT WAY, I DECIDED TO TRY SOME AUTOMATIC WRITING.
AUTOMATIC WRITING IS BASICALLY GETTING A PEN AND A BLANK PIECE OF PAPER, RELAXING YOUR HAND, AND JUST SEEING HOW YOUR HAND MOVES.
Katrina: SO, SHE SITS AND CONCENTRATES AND TELEPATHICALLY COMMUNICATES WITH THE SPIRIT THAT'S THERE AND STARTS TO WRITE.
Natalie: MY HAND BEGAN TO MOVE AND WORDS BEGAN TO COME THROUGH IMMEDIATELY.
Katrina: NOW, WITH THE WRITING, IT RUNS FROM LEFT TO RIGH AS USUAL, BUT THERE'S NO SPACES BETWEEN THE WORDS.
THERE'S NO DOTS ABOVE THE I's, CROSSES ON THE T's, ET CETERA, SO IT DOES LOOK A BIT DIFFERENT.
Natalie: THINGS THAT WERE COMING THROUGH WERE THINGS LIKE "PLEASE GO," "I'M TRAPPED," AND "GET OUT.
" WHEN I SAW THE WORDS THAT CONFIRMED THE FEELINGS THAT WE'D HAD ABOUT THE SPIRIT IN THE ROOM, WE KNEW THAT HE REALLY DID WANT US OUT THERE.
ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENED IN THE CLAN CHIEF BEDROOM WAS WHEN I WAS FILMING WITH THE CAMCORDER.
SUDDENLY, A STRANGE LIGHT ANOMALY JUST SWIRLED ONTO THE SCREEN.
IT WAS BRIEF, BUT IT WAS BRIGH AND QUITE UNLIKE ANYTHING I'VE SEEN BEFORE.
THERE WAS NO TORCHES ON.
THERE WAS NO LIGHT SOURCE.
I THOUGHT IT COULD BE THE CHIEF TRYING TO MANIFEST.
IT WAS IN THE SAME AREA THA WE KNEW THAT HE WAS STANDING, SO IT'S QUITE LIKELY THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HIM.
Katrina: AND WHILE WE WERE STANDING LISTENING, TULLY THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO APPROACH HIM.
Natalie: SHE MOVED CLOSER TO WHERE SHE KNEW HE WAS STANDING, AND SHE LET DOWN HER PSYCHIC GUARD, AS IT WERE, TO TRY AND SEE IF HE WOULD COMMUNICATE AND LET US KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG, WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, SHE BURST INTO TEARS.
Tully: [ SNIFFLING .]
Woman: YOU ALL RIGHT? Natalie: DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING, HAD NEVER SEEN HER DO THIS BEFORE.
IT WAS REALLY SUDDEN, AND SHE WAS CRYING UNCONTROLLABLY.
Katrina: TULLY HAD SAID THE GENTLEMAN HAD COME REALLY CLOSE TO HER FACE.
SHE FELT THE ANGER, SHE FELT THE PAIN AND THE EMOTIONS FROM THIS GENTLEMEN, AND IT JUST OVERWHELMED HER AND SHE BROKE DOWN.
Natalie: TULLY TOLD ME WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
I WAS REALLY SCARED.
I HAD NOT EXPERIENCED ANYTHING LIKE IT BEFORE.
WE KNEW THE MAN WAS THERE, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS CAPABLE OF THAT.
Katrina: WE DECIDED TO MOVE TO THE PINK ROOM.
THE PINK ROOM IS A LARGE BANQUETING HALL.
Natalie: THE PINK ROOM HAS SEEN A LOT OF PARANORMAL ACTIVITY IN THE PAST.
THERE'S BEEN A LADY SIGHTED THERE IN VICTORIAN DRESS ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS.
A DEERHOUND HAS BEEN SEEN THERE, AS WELL.
Katrina: WE DECIDED TO SE OUR VOICE RECORDERS AGAIN AND RECORD TO SEE IF GOT ANYTHING INTERESTING.
Natalie: OUR PSYCHIC COULD FEEL A PRESENCE IN THE ROOM.
SHE FELT THA THERE WAS A LADY WATCHING, AND WE CAPTURED A LADY'S VOICE.
IT'S QUITE HIGH-PITCHED.
[ High-pitched .]
"SMOKEY" [ Normal voice .]
LIKE THAT.
WE WERE QUITE SHOCKED.
IT'S DEFINITELY A WOMAN, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE COULD BE CALLING A DOG, PERHAPS.
Katrina: THE SPIRIT LADY THAT WE ENCOUNTERED, WE BELIEVE IS THE SPIRIT OF LADY ANN.
SHE COMES BACK JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE IN ORDER, THAT THE PLACE HAS BEEN LOOKED AFTER.
Natalie: ANOTHER OF THE RECORDINGS WAS OF WHAT SOUNDED LIKE A HOWLING DOG.
THERE WERE DEERHOUNDS KEPT THERE FOR CENTURIES.
Katrina: THE DOG THAT WE HEARD COULD INDEED BE THE DOG THAT WAS IN THE PORTRAI IN THE PINK ROOM.
Natalie: SO, PERHAPS THAT'S THE DOG, OR IT MIGHT HAVE HAD A CLOSE BOND WITH THE LADY THAT WAS SHOUTING ON IT.
Katrina: IT WAS QUITE SURPRISING WHEN I HEARD THOSE RECORDINGS, BUT EXCITING AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED.
FOLLOWING THE VIGIL IN THE PINK ROOM, WE DECIDED TO GO DOWN A LEVEL TO THE GROUND FLOOR TO THE CELLARS.
THE CELLARS ARE DARK.
THEY WERE USED FOR STORAGE FOR FOOD, FOR WINE, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
Natalie: IT'S STONE WALLS -- VERY COLD, VERY DAMP, AND IT HAS A REALLY FOREBODING FEEL TO IT.
Katrina: OUR PLAN FOR THE SAILORS WAS TO DO SOME GLASS DIVINATION.
Natalie: GLASS DIVINATION INVOLVES HAVING A TABLE WITH JUST A PLAIN GLASS ON IT, AND EVERYONE'S SITTING AROUND THE TABLE WITH THEIR FINGERS ON THE GLASS.
IT INVOLVES ASKING QUESTIONS.
USUALLY THE GLASS WILL GO CLOCKWISE FOR YES AND ANTICLOCKWISE FOR NO.
Katrina: THE ATMOSPHERE QUICKLY CHANGED IN THAT ROOM.
IT BECAME COLDER.
THERE WAS SHADOWS MOVING AROUND THE EDGES OF THE ROOM, AND THERE WAS A SENSE OF BEING WATCHED AND A SENSE OF A PRESENCE IN MORE THAN ONE PLACE.
Natalie: THE GLASS IN THE CENTER OF THE TABLE STARTED TO MOVE QUITE VIOLENTLY, AS WELL.
AND I THINK I FLIPPED OVER AT ONE POINT, WHICH GAVE US QUITE A FRIGHT.
THAT WOULD INDICATE TO ME THAT WHOEVER OR WHATEVER WE WERE COMMUNICATING WITH WAS ANGRY AND TRYING TO SCARE US, BASICALLY.
Katrina: IT TURNED OUT THA WE WERE SPEAKING TO A SOLDIER FROM PERHAPS THE 18th CENTURY.
THE SOLDIER REVEALED TO US THAT HE WAS ONE OF SIX WHO HAD RAPED AND KILLED ONE OF THE CLAN CHIEF'S DAUGHTERS, AND THEY WERE ROUNDED UP AND TAKEN INTO THE CELLARS OF THE CASTLE, STABBED IN THE BACK, AND LEFT TO DIE.
THEY WERE DISMEMBERED AND FED TO THE DOGS.
TO TOP THINGS OFF, WE RECORDED THE MOS HORRIFIC SOUND I'VE EVER HEARD FROM OUR INVESTIGATIONS.
WE RECORDED AN EVP OF A MAN SCREAMING.
Natalie: THAT SOUNDS LIKE QUITE A YOUNG MAN SCREAMING IN AGONY -- A TORTURED SCREAM.
IT WAS QUITE BONE-CHILLING.
Katrina: THE SCREAM COULD WELL BE ONE OF THE SPIRIT SOLDIERS AT THE END OF HIS LIFE, RELIVING THE MOMEN WHEN HE WAS STABBED.
AS WE WERE TALKING TO THE SPIRIT SOLDIER, WE SOON REALIZED THAT THERE WERE OTHER SPIRITS IN THE ROOM.
Natalie: AND ALL OF US FEL A SENSE OF BEING SURROUNDED.
SOMEONE GOT A CAMERA AND TOOK A PHOTO, AND ON I THERE'S A NUMBER OF ORBS.
Katrina: THEY WERE PLACING THEMSELVES IN THE DOORWAYS, AS IF STRATEGICALLY BLOCKING OUR EXIT.
Natalie: WE FELT QUITE INTIMIDATED AT THAT POINT.
I THINK WE'D HAD ENOUGH.
Katrina: THE SOLDIERS WERE THE ICING ON THE CAKE, SO TO SPEAK.
WE WERE REALLY QUITE FRIGHTENED, AND THAT WAS TIME TO LEAVE.
Natalie: MY EXPERIENCE AT CASTLE MENZIES HAS CHANGED ME FOR LIFE, I THINK.
IT'S CONFIRMED GHOSTS ARE REAL.
I'VE SEEN AND HEARD TOO MUCH TO DOUBT OTHERWISE.
Katrina: THE CASTLE IS JUST A HOTBED OF ACTIVITY AND OUR FAVORITE PLACE TO GO.
Natalie: I THINK CASTLE MENZIES HAS COUNTLESS SPIRITS -- SOME HAPPY, SOME SAD.
AND I THINK THEY'LL REMAIN THERE FOR A LONG TIME TO COME.
Katrina: THAT NIGH AT CASTLE MENZIES HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST FRIGHTENING NIGHTS I'VE EVER SPENT ANYWHERE, BUT WELL WORTH IT.
NATALIE AND I DEFINITELY BELIEVE CASTLE MENZIES IS HAUNTED.
Landolfi: I TURN AROUND TOWARDS THE BATHROOM, AND I SNAP A PICTURE.
THERE WAS THIS STRANGE MIST, AND IT WAS AS IF HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH WAS LITERALLY JUST TRAVELING AROUND THE ROOM.
Landolfi: I TURN AROUND TOWARDS THE BATHROOM, AND I SNAP A PICTURE.
AND IT WAS AS IF HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH WAS LITERALLY JUST TRAVELING AROUND THE ROOM.
Miller: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I PURCHASED OVERLOOK MANSION IN READING, PENNSYLVANIA.
I BOUGHT OVERLOOK MANSION TO MAKE IT A BED AND BREAKFAST.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY AN APARTMENT BUILDING.
WE DID RESTORATION TO THE PROPERTY AND CONVERTED I BACK INTO A PRIVATE HOME.
WHEN WE BEGAN THE RENOVATIONS OF OVERLOOK MANSION, THE STRANGE THINGS THAT WE STARTED TO NOTICE WERE DOORS MOVING [DOOR CREAKS.]
MOVEMENT OF TOOLS THAT WOULD BECOME RELOCATED AND NOISES [DOOR SLAMS.]
AND FOOTSTEPS THAT YOU COULD HEAR ON THE STAIRWELLS AND IN THE HALLWAYS.
[ FOOTSTEPS .]
AFTER THAT POINT, I WANTED THE INVESTIGATORS TO COME IN TO SEE WHAT TYPE ENERGIES ARE POTENTIALLY THERE.
Landolfi: I AM A SENSITIVE, AND AS A SENSITIVE, I AM ABLE TO FEEL ENERGY AROUND ME, AS WELL AS SEE PHYSICALLY ENERGIES FROM THE SPIRIT WORLD.
WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED AT THE OVERLOOK MANSION BED AND BREAKFAST, PART OF ME DID NOT WAN TO WALK INTO THE MANSION.
IT WAS AS IF ENERGY WAS PULSATING FROM THE MANSION ITSELF.
AND I'M GETTING READY TO WALK IN AND IMMEDIATELY HIT WITH ENERGY.
Miller: WHEN LISA CAME TO THE PROPERTY HI.
Landolfi: HI.
Miller: HER ENERGY WAS SO WILD AROUND HER AND POWERFUL, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A FORCE.
Landolfi: I HAD ASKED DAPHNE IF I COULD TAKE A WALK AROUND THE MANSION.
I DECIDED TO EXPLORE THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND I WALKED DOWN THE HALLWAY A LITTLE BIT, AND THERE WAS THIS ROOM THA THEY CALL THE STERNBERGH SUITE.
AND I FOUND MYSELF WALKING INTO THE ROOM, IMMEDIATELY DRAWN TO A CHAIR.
SAT DOWN IN THE CHAIR, AND INSTANTLY I FOUND MYSELF TRYING TO MOVE, AND I REALIZED I WAS STUCK IN THE CHAIR.
THERE'S A PRESSURE LITERALLY PUSHING DOWN ON ME.
AT THIS POINT, I'M FEELING VERY SCARED.
AS I BEGAN TO LOOK AROUND THE ROOM, I LOOKED OVER TO THE BED.
I REALIZED THAT THERE WAS A WOMAN LAYING IN THE BED.
THE WOMAN WAS VERY FRAIL-LOOKING.
AT ONE POINT, SHE BEGAN COUGHING UP BLOOD.
Woman: [ COUGHING .]
Landolfi: THEN BEFORE ME IS THIS MAN.
HE'S PACING, AND HE LOOKS WORRIED AND HE LOOKS DISTRAUGHT.
Woman: [ COUGHING .]
Landolfi: THE COUGHING STOPS, AND THE MAN FALLS TO THE FLOOR ON HIS KNEES ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATED AND I REALIZED THAT I HAVE JUST WITNESSED THE DEATH OF THIS WOMAN.
Miller: AFTER LISA HAD THE EXPERIENCE, SHE WANTED TO LEARN MORE ABOU WHO IT COULD POSSIBLY BE THAT SHE WAS SEEING AND EXPERIENCING.
Landolfi: AS I LOOKED INTO THE HISTORY OF THE MANSION, I DISCOVERED A LOVE STORY BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, JAMES HERVEY STERNBERGH, AND HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH.
HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH -- I FOUND OUT LATER -- HAD DIED IN THAT VERY ROOM OF T.
B.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT WHAT I HAD SEEN WAS ACTUALLY THE DEATH OF HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH.
Miller: WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW EVPs CAPTURED AT OVERLOOK MANSION.
THE EVP OF "YOU'RE THE DEVIL" STARTLED ME AND SE A LITTLE BIT OF FEAR INTO ME.
I WAS FRIGHTENED BY IT.
THE CLARITY THAT COMES ACROSS, IT GIVES YOU THAT SENSATION THAT THEY REALLY ARE WALKING WITH YOU EVERY DAY.
Landolfi: ON ANOTHER INVESTIGATION, WE DECIDED TO EXPLORE AND INVESTIGATE THE STERNBERGH SUITE ONCE AGAIN.
WE WERE GETTING READY TO SET UP FOR AN EVP SESSION.
I BEGAN THE EVP SESSION, BEGAN ASKING QUESTIONS TO HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH.
AND RIGHT AFTER THAT, THERE WAS A SOUND IN THE BATHROOM AREA.
I TURN AROUND TOWARDS THE BATHROOM, AND I SNAP A PICTURE.
I TURNED AROUND AGAIN TOWARDS THE MIRROR BECAUSE I HAD HEARD ANOTHER NOISE, AND I SNAPPED ANOTHER PICTURE.
AND THEN OFF TO MY LEF BEHIND ME, TOWARDS THE DOORWAY, I HEAR ANOTHER NOISE, AND I FIND MYSELF TURNING, AND I SNAP ANOTHER PICTURE.
AND THERE'S AN ANOMALY.
THERE'S THIS STRANGE MIST, AND IT FORMS IN THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
Miller: AND WHAT SHE CAPTURED WAS AN ARCING MIST THAT ACTUALLY APPEARED BEFORE HER.
AND IT WAS IN MORE THAN ONE FRAME OF HER CAMERA.
Landolfi: IT'S THIS MIST FORMING.
IT GOES FROM ONE DIRECTION, AND THEN IT KIND OF MOVES OVER ACROSS THE ROOM, TOWARDS THE MIRRORS, AND IT'S ARCING UP.
AND THEN WHERE I HAD HEARD THE FINAL NOISE, TOWARDS THE DOORWAY, YOU CAN SEE IT AGAIN ARCING TOWARDS THE DOORWAY.
AND IT WAS AS IF HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH WAS IN THE ROOM AND WAS LITERALLY JUST TRAVELING AROUND THE ROOM.
AFTER CAPTURING THIS EVIDENCE ON CAMERA, WE DECIDED THAT IT WAS TIME TO SET UP VIDEO CAMERAS.
Miller: THERE WAS VIDEO ACTUALLY CAPTURED OF A MIS THAT ACTUALLY TRAVELS THROUGH THE STERNBERGH SUITE ACROSS A DRESSER AND INTO THE HALLWAY.
Landolfi: RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE DRESSER, THERE'S THIS MIST.
IN THE SAME AREA WHERE I HAD SEEN JAMES HERVEY STERNBERGH PACING WHILE HIS WIFE WAS DYING.
Miller: IT GIVES ME VALIDATION THAT WHAT I'M ACTUALLY HEARING AND SEEING IS REALLY THERE.
WE ARE GONNA KEEP INVESTIGATING AT THE MANSION.
WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT, WHATEVER IS GOING ON WITH THE ENERGIES.
Landolfi: FOR THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE, TAKE A LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE WE'VE COLLECTED SO FAR.
I HAVE PICTURES OF A MISTY ANOMALY THAT IS TRAVELING AROUND THE STERNBERGH SUITE.
WE HAVE A VIDEO WITH MIST MOVING ACROSS THE DRESSER.
THE SPIRIT WORLD REALLY DOES EXIST, AND IT'S ALIVE AND WELL AT THE OVERLOOK MANSION.
Foote: WE HEARD A WOMAN'S VOICE CRYING OUT FOR SOME HELP.
I COULD SEE A GENTLEMAN'S FACE STARING RIGHT AT ME.
AND THEN A BLACK SHADOW FIGURE MOVED IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW.
IT REALLY FREAKED ME OUT.
Foote: WE HEARD A WOMAN'S VOICE CRYING OUT FOR SOME HELP.
I COULD SEE A GENTLEMAN'S FACE STARING RIGHT AT ME.
Culp: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN AT THE PUB MONIQUE IN STILLWATER, MINNESOTA.
STILLWATER IS A OLD LOGGING TOWN SETTLED IN THE EARLY 1800s.
IT'S RIGHT ON THE SAINT CROIX RIVER.
IT'S A GREAT LOCATION FOR HAUNTINGS.
I HAD A PARANORMAL EXPERIENCE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP.
I SAW A MAN DRESSED IN '30s OR '40s CLOTHING, AND HE WAS COMING UP THE STAIRS AT ME.
AND I COULDN'T EXPLAIN IT, AND NOBODY COULD HELP ME EXPLAIN IT.
THAT'S WHEN I BECAME INTERESTED IN THE SCIENCE BEHIND PARANORMAL INVESTIGATIONS.
Foote: STEVE AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.
WE ACTUALLY WORK TOGETHER, AND ONE DAY STARTED TALKING ABOU GHOST THINGS AND DECIDED TO DO A PARANORMAL GROUP.
Culp: JILL HAS GOT DRIVE TO DO EVERYTHING SHE CAN TO MAKE AN INVESTIGATION GO WELL.
Foote: ORIGINALLY, WE WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO DO AN INVESTIGATION.
I HAD STARTED ASKING PEOPLE AROUND TOWN IF THEY KNEW OF PLACES LOCALLY, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD MENTIONED THE PUB MONIQUE.
Culp: OVER THE, YOU KNOW, 150 YEARS THAT THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE, PUB MONIQUE IS THE LATES AND GREATEST BUSINESS.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, ONLY ABOU A YEAR AND A HALF OLD.
IT'S THREE LEVELS, AND THE PUBLIC IS ONLY ALLOWED ON THE FIRST LEVEL AND THE UPSTAIRS.
Foote: THERE'S A RUMOR ABOUT A WOMAN WHO HAD BEEN PUSHED OU OF THE SECOND-STORY WINDOW.
Culp: THIS WOMAN WAS PART OF THE BATHHOUSE FOR THE LOGGERS, AND WAS A WOMAN OF THE NIGHT.
Foote: PATRONS AND THE BAR WORKERS FOUND OU THAT THERE WERE SCREAMS COMING FROM THE BASEMENT.
THINGS FLYING OFF THE SHELF.
THEY HAVE AN ELECTRONIC DAR BOARD THAT TURNS ON BY ITSELF, AND, SO, WE JUST SET IT UP WITH THE OWNER TO COME IN AND DO AN INVESTIGATION.
Culp: SO, WE GOT TO PUB MONIQUE AT CLOSING TIME.
AND I WENT DOWN TO THE BASEMEN TO SET UP EQUIPMENT.
JILL AND THE REST OF THE GROUP WERE UPSTAIRS ON THE SECOND LEVEL SETTING UP EQUIPMENT.
THE STAIRS ARE REALLY RICKETY.
THEY'RE LOPSIDED.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE IN A FUNHOUSE EFFECT, AND YOU CAN SEE AND SMELL DAMP MILDEW.
YOU CAN JUST TELL IT'S A VERY OLD PLACE.
AS I'M HALFWAY THROUGH THE BASEMENT [CREAKING.]
I'M PUTTING A VOICE RECORDER ON THIS PIECE OF LIMESTONE.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, I HEARD A SUPER-LOUD GROWL.
[ RUMBLING .]
I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I HEARD.
SO I JUST STOPPED.
IT OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T WANT ME IN THAT BASEMENT.
I WAS REALLY SCARED, AND I STARTED GOING AROUND THE CORNER AND DECIDED TO GO BACK UPSTAIRS.
Foote: I COULD SEE THA STEVE WAS A LITTLE BIT SCARED.
HE JUST SAID THAT HE HAD HEARD THIS CRAZY GROWL IN THE BASEMENT.
Culp: BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF THE PLACE, WE THINK IT WAS THE EVIL SPIRIT OF THE MAN WHO PUSHED THIS LADY OF THE NIGH OUT THE SECOND-STORY WINDOW.
Foote: IT REALLY FREAKED ME OUT.
Culp: WE GO BACK DOWNSTAIRS.
I'VE GO MY DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER ON ME.
I SAID, "THIS IS WHERE I HEARD THE VOICE.
" Foote: IT'S REALLY KIND OF AN EERIE, CREEPY FEELING.
THERE'S LITTLE WATER PUDDLES ON THE FLOOR.
AND THEN WE BOTH HEARD A WOMAN'S VOICE CRYING OUT FOR SOME HELP.
HE SAID, "DID YOU JUST HEAR THAT?" I SAID, "I DID JUST HEAR THAT! I HEARD A WOMAN'S VOICE.
" I BELIEVE THAT IS THE SPIRI OF THE WOMAN WHO WAS RUMORED TO BE PUSHED OUT THE WINDOW.
Culp: YOU START GETTING THA "HMM, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?" FEELING.
Foote: IT REALLY SCARED ME.
Culp: JUST A FEW MINUTES LATER, BACK UPSTAIRS, AS I WAS APPROACHING THE BAR, I NOTICED A SMELL THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE, AND IT SMELLED LIKE PERFUME, BUT IT WAS NOT A PERFUME I'M FAMILIAR WITH.
LIKE A LILAC SCENT.
AND I HAD JILL COME OVER AND SMELL IT.
NEITHER OF US WERE WEARING PERFUME, AND THERE'S BEEN NOBODY ELSE IN THAT BAR.
I THINK IT WAS JUST ONE MORE WAY THAT THIS FEMALE WHO WAS MURDERED THERE IS SOMEHOW TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.
Foote: I JUST WAS AMAZED.
Culp: KIND OF CALMED DOWN FOR A LITTLE BIT.
AND I WAS NOTICING UP ON THE WALL WHERE THE RAFTERS WERE, THERE WAS A BALL OF LIGHT.
Foote: AND I JUST HAPPENED TO CATCH AN ORB PICTURE.
Culp: IT WAS MOVING SLOWLY.
Foote: I TOOK ANOTHER PICTURE.
Culp: IT WAS CHANGING SHAPE, AND THEN IT DISAPPEARED.
I THINK THAT ORB WAS SOME FORM OF MANIFESTATION OF THIS LADY THAT WAS WEARING PERFUME.
Foote: I WAS SHOCKED AND FREAKING OUT.
Culp: LATER THAT NIGHT, WHILE JILL WAS ON ANOTHER LEVEL, I'M SITTING IN THIS CHAIR, AND I HEAR, LIKE, A JINGLING AND A RUSTLING.
[ JINGLING .]
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THIS CURTAIN JUST STARTED OPENING UP RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY EYES.
AND IT STOPPED, AND IT CLOSED.
THERE'S NO VENTS.
THERE'S NO DRAFTS.
HOW'S THIS HAPPENING? I THINK IT MUST HAVE BEEN THAT WOMAN STILL BEING IN THE SECOND STORY OF THAT BUILDING, DOING EVERYTHING SHE CAN TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.
JILL CAME BACK UPSTAIRS, AND I'M STILL IN THIS CHAIR, STILL IN SHOCK -- JUST IN AWE.
Foote: AFTER THAT, WE WERE TAKING MORE PICTURES JUST TO SEE IF WE COULD GET ANYTHING.
AND I JUST HAPPENED TO CATCH ANOTHER ORB.
I SAW THAT ON MY SCREEN AT THE TIME BECAUSE I REVIEW AS I GO.
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS .]
BUT I COULD SEE SOMETHING IN THE WINDOW.
AND AS I ZOOMED IN ON IT, I COULD SEE A GENTLEMAN'S FACE.
YOU COULD ALMOST SEE THE DEFINITION OF CHEEKBONES, EYES.
HE LOOKS LIKE HE HAS A MUSTACHE.
IT KIND OF FREAKED ME OU A LITTLE BI JUST KNOWING THAT SOMEBODY WAS STARING RIGHT AT ME.
ONE OF THE INVESTIGATORS AND I HAD DECIDED THAT WE WERE GONNA RUN A SPIRIT-BOX SESSION.
AND AS I WAS GETTING READY, OUR CAMERA CAPTURED THE SHADOW FIGURE ON THE VIDEO WALKING IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW, AND IT MOVED VERY QUICKLY.
NOT EVEN HUMANLIKE.
I JUST COULD NOT BELIEVE I JUST SAW SOMETHING WALK IN FRONT OF THAT WINDOW, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY FIRS ACTUAL APPARITION I SAW.
I WAS A LITTLE BIT IN SHOCK AND REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO ADMI THAT WAS GOING ON.
Culp: SHE GOES, "I THINK WE GOT SOMETHING.
" SHE SHOWS ME THIS VIDEO OF THIS DARK ENTITY IN THE SHAPE OF A HUMAN RUNNING ACROSS IN FRONT OF THE WINDOWS.
I WAS JUST -- "WOW! THAT'S AN EXCELLENT PIECE OF FOOTAGE.
" I THINK THAT SHADOW PERSON IS THAT SAME DEMONIC ENTITY THAT WAS DOWNSTAIRS IN THE BASEMENT, GROWLING AT ME.
AND NOW IT'S FOLLOWING US ALL THROUGH THIS BUILDING.
Foote: I FEEL IT WAS THE MAN BECAUSE WE HAD GOTTEN THE PICTURE.
WE HAD MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THE MALE.
I'M THINKING THAT'S WHO THAT WAS.
Culp: I'M JUST SITTING THERE COMPLETELY STILL, JUST IN AWE.
Foote: THE SPIRITS HAVE UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
THEY JUS ARE VERY ATTACHED TO THAT PLACE, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE ON.
Culp: FROM THE EVPs AND THE VIDEO EVIDENCE THAT WE CAUGHT, THIS WOMAN'S SPIRIT AND THE MAN WHO MUST HAVE KILLED HER IS ACTIVE IN THIS LOCATION.
Foote: THEY JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE THERE.
AS I ZOOMED IN ON IT, I COULD SEE A GENTLEMAN'S FACE STARING RIGHT AT ME.
Culp: IT WAS CHANGING SHAPE, AND THEN IT DISAPPEARED.
Foote: KNOWING THAT SOMEBODY WAS STARING REALLY FREAKED ME OUT.
McCaslin: WE ASKED IF I HAS BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
Laubinger: THE LIGHT CAME RIGHT ON.
IT WASN'T SOME KIND OF MALFUNCTION.
IT WAS BEING MANIPULATED BY ENERGY.
DEFINITELY GIVES YOU THE CHILLS.
Natalie: A STRANGE LIGHT ANOMALY SWIRLED ONTO THE SCREEN.
Katrina: THE ATMOSPHERE QUICKLY CHANGED.
IT BECAME COLDER.
THERE WAS SHADOWS MOVING AROUND EDGES OF THE ROOM.
Natalie: I WAS REALLY SCARED.
IT'S QUITE BONE-CHILLING.
Landolfi: I TURNED AROUND, AND I SNAPPED ANOTHER PICTURE.
IN FRONT OF THE DRESSER, THERE'S THIS MIST.
IT WAS LITERALLY TRAVELING AROUND THE ROOM.
Miller: WHAT I'M ACTUALLY HEARING AND SEEING IS REALLY THERE.
Barnett: THE MEDIUM ARCHED HER BACK AND SCREAMED.
Woman: [ SHRIEKS .]
Barnett: AND THEN SHE SAID Padgett: SHE HAS CLEARLY BEEN AFFECTED BY SOMETHING THAT HAS OVERWHELMED ALL OF HER SENSES.
Barnett: EVERY TIME THAT I FELT SOMETHING, I WOULD START TAKING PICTURES.
Padgett: THE MEDIUM CHANNELS MR.
RATLIFFE.
Barnett: WE WERE ALL SHAKING.
Barnett: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I MOVED INTO MY HOME IN SAN MARCOS, TEXAS.
WHEN WE MOVED INTO THE HOUSE, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS CAME OVER TO INTRODUCE HERSELF, AND SHE TOLD US THAT BACK IN THE '70s, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE AT THE TIME FOUND HUMAN REMAINS IN THE BACK GARDEN.
THERE WAS A TOMBSTONE THAT WAS FOUND, AS WELL, THAT WAS LEANED UP AGAINST THE HOUSE FOR AWHILE, AND THEY NAMED THE HOUSE "THE BONEYARD," AND IT JUST KIND OF STUCK.
JOHN AND I MET IN COLLEGE.
HE'S A DEAR FRIEND OF MINE.
A COUPLE YEARS AGO, HE NEEDED A PLACE TO STAY, SO I OFFERED THE UPSTAIRS APARTMENT IN OUR HOUSE.
Padgett: LOOKS LIKE JUST ANOTHER TURN-OF-THE-CENTURY HOUSE THAT'S INDICATIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LIVE IN WITH A MAJOR EXCEPTION.
THE WOMAN WHO ORIGINALLY BUILT IT, MRS.
RATLIFFE, AND HER BROTHER LIVED IN THIS HOUSE, AND WHEN SHE DIED, HE BURIED HER IN THE BACKYARD SO HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE CEMETERY TO VISIT HER.
NOW, WITH ALL THE ADDITIONS THA HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE HOUSE, SHE'S NOW RESTING IN PEACE BENEATH THE MASTER BATHROOM.
AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY A PRESENCE IN THE HOUSE THAT YOU CAN FEEL.
YOU CAN PHYSICALLY FEEL IT.
Barnett: FIRST THING I CAN SAY THAT I NOTICED WAS A MALE PRESENCE.
AND HE WOULD ALWAYS WALK WITHIN THE SAME PLACES.
THERE WAS A SENSE OF DREAD.
THE CATALYST FOR ME WAS ONE NIGHT, MY HUSBAND RAN INTO THE NURSERY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGH TO GET THE BABY, AND HE CAME BACK INTO OUR BEDROOM, AND HE WAS HOLDING THE BABY LIKE THIS, AND HE WAS SHAKING.
AND I GRABBED THE BABY AND I SAID, "WHAT'S WRONG, HONEY?" AND HE SAID, "THERE'S WHITE FLASHES IN HIS CRIB.
THE LIGHTS ARE OFF.
IT IS LIGHT IN THERE.
" AND HE STARTED YELLING TO LEAVE THE HOUSE.
MY HUSBAND IS NOT A BELIEVER, SO FOR HIM TO DO THIS WAS SIGNIFICANT.
AFTER THAT EVENT, I DECIDED, YOU KNOW, IF THIS THING'S GONNA MESS WITH MY KIDS, I'M GONNA LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
I DECIDED THAT EVERY TIME THAT I FELT SOMETHING, I WOULD START TAKING PICTURES [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS .]
AND INEVITABLY THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING IN THEM.
Padgett: IF YOU SIT THE CAMERA DOWN LONG ENOUGH, YOU'LL CATCH AN ORB ALMOST EVERYWHERE.
IT'S OVERWHELMING PROOF THAT THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A HUB OF PARANORMAL ACTIVITY THAT WE LIVE IN.
Barnett: THESE PHOTOS CONFIRM THA WE'RE NOT ALONE IN OUR HOUSE.
IT FREAKED ME OUT, TO BE HONEST.
AND THEN ONE AFTERNOON, MY DOG BROUGHT IN A VERY BIG BONE FROM THE BACKYARD.
Padgett: TURNED OUT TO BE A CLAVICLE -- A HUMAN CLAVICLE.
SO, NO ONE KNOWS WHERE IT CAME FROM.
HOWEVER, WE ALL BELIEVE IT'S PART OF THE BODY THAT'S BURIED BENEATH THE HOUSE.
Barnett: WE THOUGHT IT COULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF MRS.
RATLIFFE'S BONES.
I STARTED TAKING PICTURES, AND ONE OF THE PICTURES CAME OU WITH A FACE ON THE DOG FLAP.
AND IT WASN'T JUST A FACE, IT WAS A SCARY MALE FACE.
I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I SAW THAT PHOTO.
THE FACE IS INTRICATE.
YOU CAN SEE EYE SOCKETS AND EXPRESSION.
Padgett: WHEN I SAW THAT PHOTO, I WAS SPEECHLESS.
THAT COULD BE THE VISAGE OF MR.
RATLIFFE BECAUSE OF THE CLAVICLE.
PERHAPS MR.
RATLIFFE IS BURIED THERE, TOO.
WE DON'T KNOW ANY DIFFERENT.
Barnett: MORE ACTIVITY SEEMED TO HAPPEN AFTER THE DOG DRUG IN THE BONE.
Padgett: JENNIFER HIRED A GROUP TO COME IN AND DO A READING.
Barnett: I WANTED TO PROVE THA THESE EXPERIENCES WERE REAL.
WHEN THE TEAM CAME OVER, THEY FELT DRAWN TO MY BEDROOM, AND THEY SET UP THEIR EVP CAMERAS, AND, SURE ENOUGH, THEY CAUGHT A MALE VOICE.
Padgett: CLEAR AS A BELL, THE WORDS "I LIKE YOU.
" THAT FREAKED ME THE [BLEEP.]
OUT.
Barnett: WHEN I HEARD THE VOICE, I WAS RELIEVED BECAUSE IT WAS CONCRETE EVIDENCE.
Padgett: AFTER THAT, THERE WAS ANOTHER EVP OF SOMEONE SAYING, "HELP.
" MY BELIEF IS THAT MR.
RATLIFFE DID SOMETHING TO MRS.
RATLIFFE, AND SHE IS NOW TRAPPED THERE BY HIM AND IS NOW CALLING OUT FOR HELP.
Barnett: WHEN I HEARD THAT EVP, IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE SOMEBODY NEEDED ASSISTANCE.
I THINK IT WAS MRS.
RATLIFFE, AND I DECIDED TO CALL IN A MEDIUM.
WHEN THE MEDIUM WALKED IN, SHE IMMEDIATELY STARTED PICKING UP ON MR.
RATLIFFE.
SHE IMMEDIATELY STARTED PICKING UP ON THE FAC THAT HE DID NOT LIKE WOMEN, AND THAT HE WAS GUARDING THE PROPERTY.
MR.
RATLIFFE WASN'T GIVING UP ANY INFORMATION FOR HER.
AND, SO, FINALLY, ONE OF THE GIRLS LEANED OVER AND WHISPERED TO ME, "DO YOU KNOW HIS NAME?" AND I SAID, "YES.
HIS NAME IS RATLIFFE.
" AT WHICH POINT, THE MEDIUM ARCHED HER BACK.
HER HANDS TURNED INTO, LIKE, CLAWS, AND SHE BENT OVER, AND SHE SCREAMED.
Woman: [ SHRIEKS .]
OH, MY GOD.
AND THEN SHE TURNED AROUND AND SHE SAID THE MEDIUM WAS REALLY SWEE WHEN SHE ARRIVED.
AND AT THAT MOMENT, THERE WAS SO MUCH AGGRESSION AND HATE IN THAT SPACE.
IT WASN'T HER.
IT WAS TERRIFYING.
Padgett: IT WAS ABSOLUTELY MR.
RATLIFFE, AND SHE CHANNELS HIM.
HE TAKES CONTROL OF HER BODY.
SHE FINALLY STOPS FLIPPING OUT, AND AT THAT POINT, SHE IS SHAKEN.
SHE IS CLEARLY NOT IN A GOOD PLACE.
Woman: [ SHRIEKS .]
Barnett: THE MEDIUM SAID THAT HE GOT INSIDE OF HER AND TOOK OVER HER BODY AND USED HER FACE FOR HIS WORDS, USED HER EXPRESSION FOR HIS HATE, AND SHE FELT EXTREMELY VIOLATED.
Padgett: THE PERSON THAT I SAW BEFORE I WEN AND THE PERSON THAT I SAW WHEN I GOT BACK WAS NOT THE SAME PERSON.
SHE HAS CLEARLY BEEN AFFECTED BY SOMETHING THAT HAS OVERWHELMED ALL OF HER SENSES.
Barnett: AFTER THAT SESSION, WE WERE SHAKING.
WE WERE ALL SHAKING.
IT WAS AWFUL.
Padgett: THIS PERSON COULD NO HAVE CONTORTED THEIR FACE AND CHANGED THEIR ACTIVITY ON THE TURN OF A DIME LIKE THA UNLESS SOMETHING DRAMATIC HAD HAPPENED TO THEM.
Barnett: IT'S COMFORTING TO KNOW THAT THERE'S LIFE AFTER WE PASS ON.
Padgett: YOU'VE GOT SO MUCH COMPELLING AND OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE.
I DON'T HAVE TO LIFT A FINGER TO PROVE WHAT I SEE OR WHAT I'VE SEEN.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY MUCH MORE HERE THAN WE KNOW AND WE'LL POSSIBLY EVER KNOW.
Barnett: SPIRITS ARE EVERYWHERE.
I'M NOT GONNA BE CHASED OUT OF MY OWN HOME BECAUSE SOMEBODY DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO MOVE ON.
Laubinger: YOU WERE NOT ALONE FROM THE SECOND YOU WALKED IN THERE.
McCaslin: WE ASKED IF I HAS BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT TURNED ON.
DID YOU HEAR THAT? IT WAS DEFINITELY IN THE ROOM WITH US.
Laubinger: HE WANTED US TO LEAVE NOW.
Laubinger: YOU WERE NOT ALONE FROM THE SECOND YOU WALKED IN THERE.
McCaslin: DID YOU HEAR THAT? IT WAS DEFINITELY IN THE ROOM WITH US.
Laubinger: HE WANTED US TO LEAVE NOW.
McCaslin: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I INVESTIGATED THE NAVAJO COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN HOLBROOK, ARIZONA.
BRIAN IS MY PARTNER.
WE WORK TOGETHER.
WE HAD AN INTERES IN THE PARANORMAL AND JUST KIND OF DECIDED ONE DAY, "HEY, LET'S GE A GROUP TOGETHER.
" Laubinger: SO, WE CAME WITH OUR LITTLE GROUP, AND THINGS STARTED ROLLING AFTER THAT.
McCaslin: WE GOT A PHONE CALL FROM THE NAVAJO COUNTY HISTORICAL MUSEUM.
THE EMPLOYEES TOLD US STORIES ABOUT DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND SEEING A WOMAN STARING OUT THE WINDOW.
EVEN THE COPS WHO DRIVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT NIGH WILL SEE LIGHTS TURN ON MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
NO ONE'S THERE WORKING.
THEY'VE NEVER HAD A TEAM OUT THERE, AND WOULD BE INTERESTED IN US COMING OUT AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN GET.
WE'VE NEVER INVESTIGATED ANYTHING TO THAT SCALE, SO TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, IT GOT US PRETTY EXCITED.
Laubinger: AND I HAD HEARD OF THE PLACE IN THE PAST.
I'D DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH ABOUT IT.
THE NAVAJO COUNTY COURTHOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1898.
HOLBROOK WAS CONSIDERED TO BE ONE OF THE ROUGHEST TOWNS IN THE OLD WEST.
McCaslin: THE WOMAN THA IS BELIEVED TO BE HAUNTING THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM IS A WOMAN BY THE NAME OF MARY.
Laubinger: MARY WAS A PROSTITUTE WHO WAS PRETTY NOTORIOUS.
APPARENTLY SHE WAS BEING BEATEN BY ONE OF HER CLIENTS.
SHE'D HAD ENOUGH.
SHE KILLED HIM [GUNSHOT.]
AND SHE ENDED UP IN SOLITARY CELL IN THE COURTHOUSE.
McCaslin: SHE ACTUALLY HUNG HERSELF IN HER JAIL CELL BEFORE OLD AGE TOOK HER LIFE.
THERE'S ANOTHER MAN BY THE NAME OF GEORGE SMILEY.
Laubinger: HE WORKED FOR THE RAILROAD, AND, APPARENTLY, HE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH HIS BOSS OVER WAGES.
OUT OF A FIT OF RAGE, HE JUS SHOT HIS BOSS [GUNSHOT.]
COLD BLOOD.
McCaslin: HE WAS ACTUALLY THE ONLY PERSON TO BE HUNG ON THE PROPERTY BY COURT ORDERED.
WE WERE ACTUALLY THERE 112 YEARS TO THE DAY OF HIS HANGING.
WE GOT TO THE COURTHOUSE ABOUT 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.
MY FIRST IMPRESSION OF THE COURTHOUSE, JUST FROM SEEING IT ON THE OUTSIDE, WAS, "WELL, WE GOT OUR HANDS FULL TONIGHT.
" Laubinger: I COULD FEEL THE HISTORY.
YOU CERTAINLY WERE NOT ALONE FROM THE SECOND YOU WALKED IN THERE.
McCaslin: YOU COULD FEEL THE PRESENCE.
THEY CLOSED IN THE EVENING HOURS.
WE STARTED SETTING UP.
WE HAD SIX INFRARED CAMERAS, PLENTY OF DIGITAL RECORDERS, EMF DETECTORS, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
SO, WE START IN SOLITARY TO CONDUCT A FLASHLIGHT SESSION.
BASICALLY WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS GET A MAGLITE.
WE'LL SET IT DOWN, WE'LL ASK YES-OR-NO QUESTIONS, AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THE SPIRI TO MANIPULATE THE FLASHLIGH IN ANY WAY TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.
Laubinger: THE FLASHLIGHT TRICK HAD NEVER WORKED FOR US EVER.
McCaslin: WE ASKED IF IT HAS BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
LIGHT CAME RIGHT ON.
IT TURNED ON BRIGHT AS COULD BE, AND THE CHILL THAT WENT DOWN MY SPINE WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
Laubinger: OBVIOUSLY, IT WASN' SOME KIND OF MALFUNCTION OF THE FLASHLIGHT.
IT WAS BEING MANIPULATED BY ENERGY.
McCaslin: WE ASKED THE SPIRIT IF I ENJOYED THE COMPANY OF A WOMAN, AND NOTHING HAPPENED.
SO WE WAITED A FEW SECONDS AND IT TURNED ON.
Laubinger: YOU COULD VISUALLY SEE I JUST KIND OF SLOWLY GAINING POWER.
I DO BELIEVE THA IT WAS THE SPIRIT OF MARY THAT TURNED THE FLASHLIGHT ON, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE QUESTION I ASKED.
DEFINITELY GIVES YOU THE CHILLS.
McCaslin: FROM THERE, WE WENT UPSTAIRS TO MARY'S ROOM.
BEING THAT PEOPLE HAVE SEEN A WOMAN IN THAT WINDOW, THEY KIND OF BUIL A ROOM DEDICATED TO HER, AND BASICALLY AN OFFERING THAT SHE CAN STAY THERE.
SINCE SHE WAS A PROSTITUTE, WE BROUGHT SOME FOOL'S GOLD WITH US.
WE SET THE FOOL'S GOLD DOWN ON THE TABLE IN THE SHAPE OF AN "M" TO TRY TO ENTICE HER SOME WAY.
MAYBE SHE WOULD TAKE IT.
FROM THERE, WE WENT DOWN INTO GEORGE'S CELL TO SEE IF WE CAN CAPTURE ANYTHING IN THERE.
WE WERE IN GEORGE SMILEY'S CELL AT 112 YEARS TO THE DATE OF HIS HANGING.
WE ASKED GEORGE, "IF YOU WAN TO COMMUNICATE WITH US, COULD YOU KNOCK, MAKE ANY KIND OF NOISES?" AND WE CAPTURED AN EVP OF A SPIRIT SAYING MY NAME REAL QUICK.
JUST, "BRANDON.
" Laubinger: I ASKED BRANDON, "DID YOU HEAR THAT?" AND HE GOES, "YEAH, I DID.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOU.
" McCaslin: IT'S PRETTY FREAKY WHEN SOMETHING'S TRYING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION BY ACTUALLY SAYING YOUR NAME.
WE COULDN'T QUITE FIGURE OU WHAT DIRECTION IT CAME FROM, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY IN THE ROOM WITH US.
Laubinger: IT WAS VERY CLEAR, AND THAT DEFINITELY CREEPED ME OUT.
AND AFTER THAT, I DECIDED TO TAKE ANOTHER VENUE AND STARTED TO PLAY THE KNOCK GAME.
McCaslin: WE SAID, "IF YOU WAN US TO STAY, KNOCK TWICE.
IF YOU WANT US TO GO, KNOCK ONCE.
" IT WASN'T FIVE SECONDS LATER, THE LOUDEST BANG I HEARD ALL NIGHT.
WE WALK OUT OF GEORGE'S CELL, AND AS SOON AS WE GE TO THE END OF THE HALLWAY, OUR CAMERA'S KNOCKED OVER.
Laubinger: TURNED OUT THAT THE KNOCK WAS ACTUALLY OUR INFRARED CAMERA BEING KNOCKED OVER, RIGHT ON CUE.
McCaslin: I HAVE NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE WERE COMMUNICATING WITH THE SPIRIT OF GEORGE.
Laubinger: HE WANTED US TO LEAVE NOW.
ON OUR WAY OUT, WE CAPTURED A RECORDING.
I DISCOVERED IT LATER.
AND WHEN I LISTENED TO IT, IT REALLY FREAKED ME OUT.
McCaslin: "I WANT TO BLOW YOUR HEAD OFF.
BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.
" Laubinger: IT HAD AN ANGRY OVERTONE TO IT.
I BELIEVE THIS WAS THE SPIRIT OF GEORGE SMILEY KILLING HIS BOSS.
[ GUNSHOT .]
Laubinger: OUR PRESENCE MIGHT HAVE REALLY GOT HIM MORE ANGRY THAN HE ALREADY WAS.
McCaslin: AT THAT POINT, WE GO INTO THE COURTROOM.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR AVERAGE COURTROOM THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON TV.
WE'RE STANDING IN THERE, LOOKING AROUND, TAKING SOME PICTURES, AND I FEEL A COLD SPO JUST GO RIGHT BEHIND MY BACK.
AS SOON AS I FELT IT, I LOOKED AT BRIAN.
Laubinger: IT APPEARED TO GO THROUGH HIM AND RIGHT THROUGH ME.
NOT ONLY WAS IT COLD, BUT IT HAD THIS ELECTROSTATIC CHARGE TO I THAT BASICALLY MADE ALL THE HAIR ON MY BODY STAND UP.
McCaslin: AND BRIAN LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAID, "I DON'T THINK WE'RE ALONE RIGHT NOW.
" Laubinger: ALL OF A SUDDEN OUT OF NOWHERE, IT SOUNDS AS IF A LARGE CAN WAS ROLLING DOWN THE STREET.
JUST BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG.
THERE CERTAINLY WASN'T ENOUGH WIND TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL THIS BANGING.
McCaslin: WE LOOKED OUT THE WINDOW, WE COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING, SO WE RAN DOWNSTAIRS TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND THE NOISE.
WE HAD A RECORDER IN THE SOLITARY JAIL, AND THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM.
IT WAS VERY, VERY LOUD.
Laubinger: TO ME, IT ALMOST SOUNDED AS IF SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO GET ATTENTION.
WE HAD BEEN AWAY FROM THE SOLITARY FOR OVER AN HOUR, SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN MARY'S ATTEMP TO GET US BACK DOWN IN THERE.
McCaslin: WE DECIDED TO GO BACK UP TO MARY'S ROOM, AND ON OUR RETURN, THE FOOL'S GOLD THAT WE PUT ON THE TABLE IN THE SHAPE OF AN "M" WAS ALL MIXED AROUND, AS IF SOMEBODY HAD MOVED IT.
WE HAD A CAMERA LOOKING A THE ENTRANCE TO HER ROOM, SO IF SOMEBODY HAD GONE IN OR OUT, WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT.
THE ONLY CONCLUSION I COULD COME UP WITH WAS THAT THE SPIRIT OF MARY WANTED TO TAKE OUR PAYMENT FOR HER SERVICES.
THIS EXPERIENCE ON THIS INVESTIGATION WAS DIFFEREN FROM ANYTHING I'VE EVER DONE, BEING THAT I FELT THEIR PAIN, AND I REALLY FEL WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE THERE BACK IN THE DAY.
Laubinger: THESE ARE REALLY PEOPLE.
YOU JUST CAN'T SEE THEM.
AND THEY CHOOSE TO INTERAC WITH YOU ON THEIR TERMS.
MARY, GEORGE, THEY'LL MAKE THEIR PRESENCE KNOWN IMMEDIATELY.
McCaslin: MY EXPERIENCE IN THIS COURTHOUSE HAS HELPED ME BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS LIFE AFTER DEATH AND THERE'S NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF WHETHER IT BE HERE ON EARTH OR BEYOND.
Katrina: THE FEAR STARTED TO BUILD UP.
Natalie: SUDDENLY, A STRANGE LIGHT ANOMALY SWIRLED ONTO THE SCREEN.
WE KNEW THE MAN WAS THERE, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS CAPABLE OF THAT.
Katrina: THEY WERE PLACING THEMSELVES IN THE DOORWAYS, BLOCKING OUR EXIT.
Natalie: I THINK WE'D HAD ENOUGH.
Katrina: THE FEAR STARTED TO BUILD UP.
Natalie: SUDDENLY, A STRANGE LIGHT ANOMALY SWIRLED ONTO THE SCREEN.
Katrina: THERE WERE SPIRITS AROUND US, BLOCKING OUR EXIT.
Natalie: I THINK WE'D HAD ENOUGH.
Katrina: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN MY SISTER AND I INVESTIGATED A HAUNTED SCOTTISH CASTLE.
NATALIE'S MY LITTLE SISTER.
SHE'S SEVEN YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME, AND WE HAVE A JOINT INTERES IN THE PARANORMAL IN OUR SPARE TIME.
Natalie: WE DECIDED TO INVESTIGATE CASTLE MENZIES TO CAPTURE SOME EVIDENCE OF THE PARANORMAL.
Katrina: CASTLE MENZIES IS A 16th-CENTURY CASTLE.
IT'S BUILT ON THE ORIGINAL SITE OF AN EARLIER CASTLE THAT WAS BURNT DOWN AT THE START OF THE 1500s.
AND IT WAS BUIL AS A FORTIFICATION, AND ALSO AS A HOUSE FOR THE CLAN CHIEF.
WE DROVE UP TO THE CASTLE, AND THERE'S A GREAT, BIG, LONG DRIVEWAY, WHICH MEANDERS UP TO THE MAIN DOOR.
EVERY WINDOW WAS ABLAZE WITH LIGHT, BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY LOOK WELCOMING, WHICH WAS REALLY STRANGE.
AND AS WE GOT CLOSER AND CLOSER, THE FEAR STARTED TO BUILD UP.
WE'RE GONNA BE IN THERE OVERNIGHT IN THE DARK.
THE CASTLE'S QUITE HUGE.
IT'S GOT FOUR FLOORS AND NUMEROUS ROOMS.
Natalie: WE WEN UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR, WHICH IS WHERE THE CLAN CHIEF'S BEDROOM IS.
Katrina: THE CLAN CHIEF WAS POWERFUL IN HIS DAY.
HE COULD CALL PEOPLE TO ARMS.
HE COULD SEND PEOPLE TO WAR.
HE COULD TRY PEOPLE AND METE OUT JUSTICE.
Natalie: AND HE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN CHARGE OF EVERYBODY, OF ALL THEIR DAILY ASPECTS OF THEIR LIFE.
Katrina: THE CLAN'S CHIEF ROOM HAD THAT KIND OF SPOOKY FEEL TO IT BEFORE YOU EVEN GOT THERE.
Natalie: IT'S QUITE A SPARSE ROOM.
IT HAS A WOODEN FLOOR, WHITEWASHED WALLS, JUST A DOUBLE BED, AND A FIREPLACE.
OUR PSYCHIC WHO WAS WITH US, TULLY, SHE PICKED UP ON A MAN IN THE ROOM WATCHING US.
AND SHE DESCRIBED HIM AS BEING OLDER WITH DARK HAIR, AND THAT HE WAS REALLY ANGRY, VERY UNHAPPY THAT WE WERE THERE.
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE THE CHIEF SINCE IT WAS HIS BEDROOM.
NOBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED IN THERE.
IN ORDER TO TRY AND COMMUNICATE IN A DIFFERENT WAY, I DECIDED TO TRY SOME AUTOMATIC WRITING.
AUTOMATIC WRITING IS BASICALLY GETTING A PEN AND A BLANK PIECE OF PAPER, RELAXING YOUR HAND, AND JUST SEEING HOW YOUR HAND MOVES.
Katrina: SO, SHE SITS AND CONCENTRATES AND TELEPATHICALLY COMMUNICATES WITH THE SPIRIT THAT'S THERE AND STARTS TO WRITE.
Natalie: MY HAND BEGAN TO MOVE AND WORDS BEGAN TO COME THROUGH IMMEDIATELY.
Katrina: NOW, WITH THE WRITING, IT RUNS FROM LEFT TO RIGH AS USUAL, BUT THERE'S NO SPACES BETWEEN THE WORDS.
THERE'S NO DOTS ABOVE THE I's, CROSSES ON THE T's, ET CETERA, SO IT DOES LOOK A BIT DIFFERENT.
Natalie: THINGS THAT WERE COMING THROUGH WERE THINGS LIKE "PLEASE GO," "I'M TRAPPED," AND "GET OUT.
" WHEN I SAW THE WORDS THAT CONFIRMED THE FEELINGS THAT WE'D HAD ABOUT THE SPIRIT IN THE ROOM, WE KNEW THAT HE REALLY DID WANT US OUT THERE.
ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENED IN THE CLAN CHIEF BEDROOM WAS WHEN I WAS FILMING WITH THE CAMCORDER.
SUDDENLY, A STRANGE LIGHT ANOMALY JUST SWIRLED ONTO THE SCREEN.
IT WAS BRIEF, BUT IT WAS BRIGH AND QUITE UNLIKE ANYTHING I'VE SEEN BEFORE.
THERE WAS NO TORCHES ON.
THERE WAS NO LIGHT SOURCE.
I THOUGHT IT COULD BE THE CHIEF TRYING TO MANIFEST.
IT WAS IN THE SAME AREA THA WE KNEW THAT HE WAS STANDING, SO IT'S QUITE LIKELY THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HIM.
Katrina: AND WHILE WE WERE STANDING LISTENING, TULLY THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO APPROACH HIM.
Natalie: SHE MOVED CLOSER TO WHERE SHE KNEW HE WAS STANDING, AND SHE LET DOWN HER PSYCHIC GUARD, AS IT WERE, TO TRY AND SEE IF HE WOULD COMMUNICATE AND LET US KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG, WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, SHE BURST INTO TEARS.
Tully: [ SNIFFLING .]
Woman: YOU ALL RIGHT? Natalie: DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING, HAD NEVER SEEN HER DO THIS BEFORE.
IT WAS REALLY SUDDEN, AND SHE WAS CRYING UNCONTROLLABLY.
Katrina: TULLY HAD SAID THE GENTLEMAN HAD COME REALLY CLOSE TO HER FACE.
SHE FELT THE ANGER, SHE FELT THE PAIN AND THE EMOTIONS FROM THIS GENTLEMEN, AND IT JUST OVERWHELMED HER AND SHE BROKE DOWN.
Natalie: TULLY TOLD ME WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
I WAS REALLY SCARED.
I HAD NOT EXPERIENCED ANYTHING LIKE IT BEFORE.
WE KNEW THE MAN WAS THERE, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS CAPABLE OF THAT.
Katrina: WE DECIDED TO MOVE TO THE PINK ROOM.
THE PINK ROOM IS A LARGE BANQUETING HALL.
Natalie: THE PINK ROOM HAS SEEN A LOT OF PARANORMAL ACTIVITY IN THE PAST.
THERE'S BEEN A LADY SIGHTED THERE IN VICTORIAN DRESS ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS.
A DEERHOUND HAS BEEN SEEN THERE, AS WELL.
Katrina: WE DECIDED TO SE OUR VOICE RECORDERS AGAIN AND RECORD TO SEE IF GOT ANYTHING INTERESTING.
Natalie: OUR PSYCHIC COULD FEEL A PRESENCE IN THE ROOM.
SHE FELT THA THERE WAS A LADY WATCHING, AND WE CAPTURED A LADY'S VOICE.
IT'S QUITE HIGH-PITCHED.
[ High-pitched .]
"SMOKEY" [ Normal voice .]
LIKE THAT.
WE WERE QUITE SHOCKED.
IT'S DEFINITELY A WOMAN, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE COULD BE CALLING A DOG, PERHAPS.
Katrina: THE SPIRIT LADY THAT WE ENCOUNTERED, WE BELIEVE IS THE SPIRIT OF LADY ANN.
SHE COMES BACK JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE IN ORDER, THAT THE PLACE HAS BEEN LOOKED AFTER.
Natalie: ANOTHER OF THE RECORDINGS WAS OF WHAT SOUNDED LIKE A HOWLING DOG.
THERE WERE DEERHOUNDS KEPT THERE FOR CENTURIES.
Katrina: THE DOG THAT WE HEARD COULD INDEED BE THE DOG THAT WAS IN THE PORTRAI IN THE PINK ROOM.
Natalie: SO, PERHAPS THAT'S THE DOG, OR IT MIGHT HAVE HAD A CLOSE BOND WITH THE LADY THAT WAS SHOUTING ON IT.
Katrina: IT WAS QUITE SURPRISING WHEN I HEARD THOSE RECORDINGS, BUT EXCITING AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED.
FOLLOWING THE VIGIL IN THE PINK ROOM, WE DECIDED TO GO DOWN A LEVEL TO THE GROUND FLOOR TO THE CELLARS.
THE CELLARS ARE DARK.
THEY WERE USED FOR STORAGE FOR FOOD, FOR WINE, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
Natalie: IT'S STONE WALLS -- VERY COLD, VERY DAMP, AND IT HAS A REALLY FOREBODING FEEL TO IT.
Katrina: OUR PLAN FOR THE SAILORS WAS TO DO SOME GLASS DIVINATION.
Natalie: GLASS DIVINATION INVOLVES HAVING A TABLE WITH JUST A PLAIN GLASS ON IT, AND EVERYONE'S SITTING AROUND THE TABLE WITH THEIR FINGERS ON THE GLASS.
IT INVOLVES ASKING QUESTIONS.
USUALLY THE GLASS WILL GO CLOCKWISE FOR YES AND ANTICLOCKWISE FOR NO.
Katrina: THE ATMOSPHERE QUICKLY CHANGED IN THAT ROOM.
IT BECAME COLDER.
THERE WAS SHADOWS MOVING AROUND THE EDGES OF THE ROOM, AND THERE WAS A SENSE OF BEING WATCHED AND A SENSE OF A PRESENCE IN MORE THAN ONE PLACE.
Natalie: THE GLASS IN THE CENTER OF THE TABLE STARTED TO MOVE QUITE VIOLENTLY, AS WELL.
AND I THINK I FLIPPED OVER AT ONE POINT, WHICH GAVE US QUITE A FRIGHT.
THAT WOULD INDICATE TO ME THAT WHOEVER OR WHATEVER WE WERE COMMUNICATING WITH WAS ANGRY AND TRYING TO SCARE US, BASICALLY.
Katrina: IT TURNED OUT THA WE WERE SPEAKING TO A SOLDIER FROM PERHAPS THE 18th CENTURY.
THE SOLDIER REVEALED TO US THAT HE WAS ONE OF SIX WHO HAD RAPED AND KILLED ONE OF THE CLAN CHIEF'S DAUGHTERS, AND THEY WERE ROUNDED UP AND TAKEN INTO THE CELLARS OF THE CASTLE, STABBED IN THE BACK, AND LEFT TO DIE.
THEY WERE DISMEMBERED AND FED TO THE DOGS.
TO TOP THINGS OFF, WE RECORDED THE MOS HORRIFIC SOUND I'VE EVER HEARD FROM OUR INVESTIGATIONS.
WE RECORDED AN EVP OF A MAN SCREAMING.
Natalie: THAT SOUNDS LIKE QUITE A YOUNG MAN SCREAMING IN AGONY -- A TORTURED SCREAM.
IT WAS QUITE BONE-CHILLING.
Katrina: THE SCREAM COULD WELL BE ONE OF THE SPIRIT SOLDIERS AT THE END OF HIS LIFE, RELIVING THE MOMEN WHEN HE WAS STABBED.
AS WE WERE TALKING TO THE SPIRIT SOLDIER, WE SOON REALIZED THAT THERE WERE OTHER SPIRITS IN THE ROOM.
Natalie: AND ALL OF US FEL A SENSE OF BEING SURROUNDED.
SOMEONE GOT A CAMERA AND TOOK A PHOTO, AND ON I THERE'S A NUMBER OF ORBS.
Katrina: THEY WERE PLACING THEMSELVES IN THE DOORWAYS, AS IF STRATEGICALLY BLOCKING OUR EXIT.
Natalie: WE FELT QUITE INTIMIDATED AT THAT POINT.
I THINK WE'D HAD ENOUGH.
Katrina: THE SOLDIERS WERE THE ICING ON THE CAKE, SO TO SPEAK.
WE WERE REALLY QUITE FRIGHTENED, AND THAT WAS TIME TO LEAVE.
Natalie: MY EXPERIENCE AT CASTLE MENZIES HAS CHANGED ME FOR LIFE, I THINK.
IT'S CONFIRMED GHOSTS ARE REAL.
I'VE SEEN AND HEARD TOO MUCH TO DOUBT OTHERWISE.
Katrina: THE CASTLE IS JUST A HOTBED OF ACTIVITY AND OUR FAVORITE PLACE TO GO.
Natalie: I THINK CASTLE MENZIES HAS COUNTLESS SPIRITS -- SOME HAPPY, SOME SAD.
AND I THINK THEY'LL REMAIN THERE FOR A LONG TIME TO COME.
Katrina: THAT NIGH AT CASTLE MENZIES HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST FRIGHTENING NIGHTS I'VE EVER SPENT ANYWHERE, BUT WELL WORTH IT.
NATALIE AND I DEFINITELY BELIEVE CASTLE MENZIES IS HAUNTED.
Landolfi: I TURN AROUND TOWARDS THE BATHROOM, AND I SNAP A PICTURE.
THERE WAS THIS STRANGE MIST, AND IT WAS AS IF HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH WAS LITERALLY JUST TRAVELING AROUND THE ROOM.
Landolfi: I TURN AROUND TOWARDS THE BATHROOM, AND I SNAP A PICTURE.
AND IT WAS AS IF HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH WAS LITERALLY JUST TRAVELING AROUND THE ROOM.
Miller: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I PURCHASED OVERLOOK MANSION IN READING, PENNSYLVANIA.
I BOUGHT OVERLOOK MANSION TO MAKE IT A BED AND BREAKFAST.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY AN APARTMENT BUILDING.
WE DID RESTORATION TO THE PROPERTY AND CONVERTED I BACK INTO A PRIVATE HOME.
WHEN WE BEGAN THE RENOVATIONS OF OVERLOOK MANSION, THE STRANGE THINGS THAT WE STARTED TO NOTICE WERE DOORS MOVING [DOOR CREAKS.]
MOVEMENT OF TOOLS THAT WOULD BECOME RELOCATED AND NOISES [DOOR SLAMS.]
AND FOOTSTEPS THAT YOU COULD HEAR ON THE STAIRWELLS AND IN THE HALLWAYS.
[ FOOTSTEPS .]
AFTER THAT POINT, I WANTED THE INVESTIGATORS TO COME IN TO SEE WHAT TYPE ENERGIES ARE POTENTIALLY THERE.
Landolfi: I AM A SENSITIVE, AND AS A SENSITIVE, I AM ABLE TO FEEL ENERGY AROUND ME, AS WELL AS SEE PHYSICALLY ENERGIES FROM THE SPIRIT WORLD.
WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED AT THE OVERLOOK MANSION BED AND BREAKFAST, PART OF ME DID NOT WAN TO WALK INTO THE MANSION.
IT WAS AS IF ENERGY WAS PULSATING FROM THE MANSION ITSELF.
AND I'M GETTING READY TO WALK IN AND IMMEDIATELY HIT WITH ENERGY.
Miller: WHEN LISA CAME TO THE PROPERTY HI.
Landolfi: HI.
Miller: HER ENERGY WAS SO WILD AROUND HER AND POWERFUL, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A FORCE.
Landolfi: I HAD ASKED DAPHNE IF I COULD TAKE A WALK AROUND THE MANSION.
I DECIDED TO EXPLORE THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND I WALKED DOWN THE HALLWAY A LITTLE BIT, AND THERE WAS THIS ROOM THA THEY CALL THE STERNBERGH SUITE.
AND I FOUND MYSELF WALKING INTO THE ROOM, IMMEDIATELY DRAWN TO A CHAIR.
SAT DOWN IN THE CHAIR, AND INSTANTLY I FOUND MYSELF TRYING TO MOVE, AND I REALIZED I WAS STUCK IN THE CHAIR.
THERE'S A PRESSURE LITERALLY PUSHING DOWN ON ME.
AT THIS POINT, I'M FEELING VERY SCARED.
AS I BEGAN TO LOOK AROUND THE ROOM, I LOOKED OVER TO THE BED.
I REALIZED THAT THERE WAS A WOMAN LAYING IN THE BED.
THE WOMAN WAS VERY FRAIL-LOOKING.
AT ONE POINT, SHE BEGAN COUGHING UP BLOOD.
Woman: [ COUGHING .]
Landolfi: THEN BEFORE ME IS THIS MAN.
HE'S PACING, AND HE LOOKS WORRIED AND HE LOOKS DISTRAUGHT.
Woman: [ COUGHING .]
Landolfi: THE COUGHING STOPS, AND THE MAN FALLS TO THE FLOOR ON HIS KNEES ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATED AND I REALIZED THAT I HAVE JUST WITNESSED THE DEATH OF THIS WOMAN.
Miller: AFTER LISA HAD THE EXPERIENCE, SHE WANTED TO LEARN MORE ABOU WHO IT COULD POSSIBLY BE THAT SHE WAS SEEING AND EXPERIENCING.
Landolfi: AS I LOOKED INTO THE HISTORY OF THE MANSION, I DISCOVERED A LOVE STORY BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, JAMES HERVEY STERNBERGH, AND HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH.
HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH -- I FOUND OUT LATER -- HAD DIED IN THAT VERY ROOM OF T.
B.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT WHAT I HAD SEEN WAS ACTUALLY THE DEATH OF HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH.
Miller: WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW EVPs CAPTURED AT OVERLOOK MANSION.
THE EVP OF "YOU'RE THE DEVIL" STARTLED ME AND SE A LITTLE BIT OF FEAR INTO ME.
I WAS FRIGHTENED BY IT.
THE CLARITY THAT COMES ACROSS, IT GIVES YOU THAT SENSATION THAT THEY REALLY ARE WALKING WITH YOU EVERY DAY.
Landolfi: ON ANOTHER INVESTIGATION, WE DECIDED TO EXPLORE AND INVESTIGATE THE STERNBERGH SUITE ONCE AGAIN.
WE WERE GETTING READY TO SET UP FOR AN EVP SESSION.
I BEGAN THE EVP SESSION, BEGAN ASKING QUESTIONS TO HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH.
AND RIGHT AFTER THAT, THERE WAS A SOUND IN THE BATHROOM AREA.
I TURN AROUND TOWARDS THE BATHROOM, AND I SNAP A PICTURE.
I TURNED AROUND AGAIN TOWARDS THE MIRROR BECAUSE I HAD HEARD ANOTHER NOISE, AND I SNAPPED ANOTHER PICTURE.
AND THEN OFF TO MY LEF BEHIND ME, TOWARDS THE DOORWAY, I HEAR ANOTHER NOISE, AND I FIND MYSELF TURNING, AND I SNAP ANOTHER PICTURE.
AND THERE'S AN ANOMALY.
THERE'S THIS STRANGE MIST, AND IT FORMS IN THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
Miller: AND WHAT SHE CAPTURED WAS AN ARCING MIST THAT ACTUALLY APPEARED BEFORE HER.
AND IT WAS IN MORE THAN ONE FRAME OF HER CAMERA.
Landolfi: IT'S THIS MIST FORMING.
IT GOES FROM ONE DIRECTION, AND THEN IT KIND OF MOVES OVER ACROSS THE ROOM, TOWARDS THE MIRRORS, AND IT'S ARCING UP.
AND THEN WHERE I HAD HEARD THE FINAL NOISE, TOWARDS THE DOORWAY, YOU CAN SEE IT AGAIN ARCING TOWARDS THE DOORWAY.
AND IT WAS AS IF HARRIET MAY STERNBERGH WAS IN THE ROOM AND WAS LITERALLY JUST TRAVELING AROUND THE ROOM.
AFTER CAPTURING THIS EVIDENCE ON CAMERA, WE DECIDED THAT IT WAS TIME TO SET UP VIDEO CAMERAS.
Miller: THERE WAS VIDEO ACTUALLY CAPTURED OF A MIS THAT ACTUALLY TRAVELS THROUGH THE STERNBERGH SUITE ACROSS A DRESSER AND INTO THE HALLWAY.
Landolfi: RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE DRESSER, THERE'S THIS MIST.
IN THE SAME AREA WHERE I HAD SEEN JAMES HERVEY STERNBERGH PACING WHILE HIS WIFE WAS DYING.
Miller: IT GIVES ME VALIDATION THAT WHAT I'M ACTUALLY HEARING AND SEEING IS REALLY THERE.
WE ARE GONNA KEEP INVESTIGATING AT THE MANSION.
WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT, WHATEVER IS GOING ON WITH THE ENERGIES.
Landolfi: FOR THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE, TAKE A LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE WE'VE COLLECTED SO FAR.
I HAVE PICTURES OF A MISTY ANOMALY THAT IS TRAVELING AROUND THE STERNBERGH SUITE.
WE HAVE A VIDEO WITH MIST MOVING ACROSS THE DRESSER.
THE SPIRIT WORLD REALLY DOES EXIST, AND IT'S ALIVE AND WELL AT THE OVERLOOK MANSION.
Foote: WE HEARD A WOMAN'S VOICE CRYING OUT FOR SOME HELP.
I COULD SEE A GENTLEMAN'S FACE STARING RIGHT AT ME.
AND THEN A BLACK SHADOW FIGURE MOVED IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW.
IT REALLY FREAKED ME OUT.
Foote: WE HEARD A WOMAN'S VOICE CRYING OUT FOR SOME HELP.
I COULD SEE A GENTLEMAN'S FACE STARING RIGHT AT ME.
Culp: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN AT THE PUB MONIQUE IN STILLWATER, MINNESOTA.
STILLWATER IS A OLD LOGGING TOWN SETTLED IN THE EARLY 1800s.
IT'S RIGHT ON THE SAINT CROIX RIVER.
IT'S A GREAT LOCATION FOR HAUNTINGS.
I HAD A PARANORMAL EXPERIENCE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP.
I SAW A MAN DRESSED IN '30s OR '40s CLOTHING, AND HE WAS COMING UP THE STAIRS AT ME.
AND I COULDN'T EXPLAIN IT, AND NOBODY COULD HELP ME EXPLAIN IT.
THAT'S WHEN I BECAME INTERESTED IN THE SCIENCE BEHIND PARANORMAL INVESTIGATIONS.
Foote: STEVE AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.
WE ACTUALLY WORK TOGETHER, AND ONE DAY STARTED TALKING ABOU GHOST THINGS AND DECIDED TO DO A PARANORMAL GROUP.
Culp: JILL HAS GOT DRIVE TO DO EVERYTHING SHE CAN TO MAKE AN INVESTIGATION GO WELL.
Foote: ORIGINALLY, WE WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO DO AN INVESTIGATION.
I HAD STARTED ASKING PEOPLE AROUND TOWN IF THEY KNEW OF PLACES LOCALLY, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD MENTIONED THE PUB MONIQUE.
Culp: OVER THE, YOU KNOW, 150 YEARS THAT THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE, PUB MONIQUE IS THE LATES AND GREATEST BUSINESS.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, ONLY ABOU A YEAR AND A HALF OLD.
IT'S THREE LEVELS, AND THE PUBLIC IS ONLY ALLOWED ON THE FIRST LEVEL AND THE UPSTAIRS.
Foote: THERE'S A RUMOR ABOUT A WOMAN WHO HAD BEEN PUSHED OU OF THE SECOND-STORY WINDOW.
Culp: THIS WOMAN WAS PART OF THE BATHHOUSE FOR THE LOGGERS, AND WAS A WOMAN OF THE NIGHT.
Foote: PATRONS AND THE BAR WORKERS FOUND OU THAT THERE WERE SCREAMS COMING FROM THE BASEMENT.
THINGS FLYING OFF THE SHELF.
THEY HAVE AN ELECTRONIC DAR BOARD THAT TURNS ON BY ITSELF, AND, SO, WE JUST SET IT UP WITH THE OWNER TO COME IN AND DO AN INVESTIGATION.
Culp: SO, WE GOT TO PUB MONIQUE AT CLOSING TIME.
AND I WENT DOWN TO THE BASEMEN TO SET UP EQUIPMENT.
JILL AND THE REST OF THE GROUP WERE UPSTAIRS ON THE SECOND LEVEL SETTING UP EQUIPMENT.
THE STAIRS ARE REALLY RICKETY.
THEY'RE LOPSIDED.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE IN A FUNHOUSE EFFECT, AND YOU CAN SEE AND SMELL DAMP MILDEW.
YOU CAN JUST TELL IT'S A VERY OLD PLACE.
AS I'M HALFWAY THROUGH THE BASEMENT [CREAKING.]
I'M PUTTING A VOICE RECORDER ON THIS PIECE OF LIMESTONE.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, I HEARD A SUPER-LOUD GROWL.
[ RUMBLING .]
I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I HEARD.
SO I JUST STOPPED.
IT OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T WANT ME IN THAT BASEMENT.
I WAS REALLY SCARED, AND I STARTED GOING AROUND THE CORNER AND DECIDED TO GO BACK UPSTAIRS.
Foote: I COULD SEE THA STEVE WAS A LITTLE BIT SCARED.
HE JUST SAID THAT HE HAD HEARD THIS CRAZY GROWL IN THE BASEMENT.
Culp: BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF THE PLACE, WE THINK IT WAS THE EVIL SPIRIT OF THE MAN WHO PUSHED THIS LADY OF THE NIGH OUT THE SECOND-STORY WINDOW.
Foote: IT REALLY FREAKED ME OUT.
Culp: WE GO BACK DOWNSTAIRS.
I'VE GO MY DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER ON ME.
I SAID, "THIS IS WHERE I HEARD THE VOICE.
" Foote: IT'S REALLY KIND OF AN EERIE, CREEPY FEELING.
THERE'S LITTLE WATER PUDDLES ON THE FLOOR.
AND THEN WE BOTH HEARD A WOMAN'S VOICE CRYING OUT FOR SOME HELP.
HE SAID, "DID YOU JUST HEAR THAT?" I SAID, "I DID JUST HEAR THAT! I HEARD A WOMAN'S VOICE.
" I BELIEVE THAT IS THE SPIRI OF THE WOMAN WHO WAS RUMORED TO BE PUSHED OUT THE WINDOW.
Culp: YOU START GETTING THA "HMM, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?" FEELING.
Foote: IT REALLY SCARED ME.
Culp: JUST A FEW MINUTES LATER, BACK UPSTAIRS, AS I WAS APPROACHING THE BAR, I NOTICED A SMELL THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE, AND IT SMELLED LIKE PERFUME, BUT IT WAS NOT A PERFUME I'M FAMILIAR WITH.
LIKE A LILAC SCENT.
AND I HAD JILL COME OVER AND SMELL IT.
NEITHER OF US WERE WEARING PERFUME, AND THERE'S BEEN NOBODY ELSE IN THAT BAR.
I THINK IT WAS JUST ONE MORE WAY THAT THIS FEMALE WHO WAS MURDERED THERE IS SOMEHOW TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.
Foote: I JUST WAS AMAZED.
Culp: KIND OF CALMED DOWN FOR A LITTLE BIT.
AND I WAS NOTICING UP ON THE WALL WHERE THE RAFTERS WERE, THERE WAS A BALL OF LIGHT.
Foote: AND I JUST HAPPENED TO CATCH AN ORB PICTURE.
Culp: IT WAS MOVING SLOWLY.
Foote: I TOOK ANOTHER PICTURE.
Culp: IT WAS CHANGING SHAPE, AND THEN IT DISAPPEARED.
I THINK THAT ORB WAS SOME FORM OF MANIFESTATION OF THIS LADY THAT WAS WEARING PERFUME.
Foote: I WAS SHOCKED AND FREAKING OUT.
Culp: LATER THAT NIGHT, WHILE JILL WAS ON ANOTHER LEVEL, I'M SITTING IN THIS CHAIR, AND I HEAR, LIKE, A JINGLING AND A RUSTLING.
[ JINGLING .]
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THIS CURTAIN JUST STARTED OPENING UP RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY EYES.
AND IT STOPPED, AND IT CLOSED.
THERE'S NO VENTS.
THERE'S NO DRAFTS.
HOW'S THIS HAPPENING? I THINK IT MUST HAVE BEEN THAT WOMAN STILL BEING IN THE SECOND STORY OF THAT BUILDING, DOING EVERYTHING SHE CAN TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.
JILL CAME BACK UPSTAIRS, AND I'M STILL IN THIS CHAIR, STILL IN SHOCK -- JUST IN AWE.
Foote: AFTER THAT, WE WERE TAKING MORE PICTURES JUST TO SEE IF WE COULD GET ANYTHING.
AND I JUST HAPPENED TO CATCH ANOTHER ORB.
I SAW THAT ON MY SCREEN AT THE TIME BECAUSE I REVIEW AS I GO.
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS .]
BUT I COULD SEE SOMETHING IN THE WINDOW.
AND AS I ZOOMED IN ON IT, I COULD SEE A GENTLEMAN'S FACE.
YOU COULD ALMOST SEE THE DEFINITION OF CHEEKBONES, EYES.
HE LOOKS LIKE HE HAS A MUSTACHE.
IT KIND OF FREAKED ME OU A LITTLE BI JUST KNOWING THAT SOMEBODY WAS STARING RIGHT AT ME.
ONE OF THE INVESTIGATORS AND I HAD DECIDED THAT WE WERE GONNA RUN A SPIRIT-BOX SESSION.
AND AS I WAS GETTING READY, OUR CAMERA CAPTURED THE SHADOW FIGURE ON THE VIDEO WALKING IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW, AND IT MOVED VERY QUICKLY.
NOT EVEN HUMANLIKE.
I JUST COULD NOT BELIEVE I JUST SAW SOMETHING WALK IN FRONT OF THAT WINDOW, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY FIRS ACTUAL APPARITION I SAW.
I WAS A LITTLE BIT IN SHOCK AND REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO ADMI THAT WAS GOING ON.
Culp: SHE GOES, "I THINK WE GOT SOMETHING.
" SHE SHOWS ME THIS VIDEO OF THIS DARK ENTITY IN THE SHAPE OF A HUMAN RUNNING ACROSS IN FRONT OF THE WINDOWS.
I WAS JUST -- "WOW! THAT'S AN EXCELLENT PIECE OF FOOTAGE.
" I THINK THAT SHADOW PERSON IS THAT SAME DEMONIC ENTITY THAT WAS DOWNSTAIRS IN THE BASEMENT, GROWLING AT ME.
AND NOW IT'S FOLLOWING US ALL THROUGH THIS BUILDING.
Foote: I FEEL IT WAS THE MAN BECAUSE WE HAD GOTTEN THE PICTURE.
WE HAD MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THE MALE.
I'M THINKING THAT'S WHO THAT WAS.
Culp: I'M JUST SITTING THERE COMPLETELY STILL, JUST IN AWE.
Foote: THE SPIRITS HAVE UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
THEY JUS ARE VERY ATTACHED TO THAT PLACE, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE ON.
Culp: FROM THE EVPs AND THE VIDEO EVIDENCE THAT WE CAUGHT, THIS WOMAN'S SPIRIT AND THE MAN WHO MUST HAVE KILLED HER IS ACTIVE IN THIS LOCATION.
Foote: THEY JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE THERE.