The Dead Files (2011) s06e13 Episode Script
Intolerance - Warsaw, IN
They're acting like they're still alive.
Whatever's going on here really needs to stop.
It was a devil or a monster.
"I have seen a ghost.
" There's no question in my mind that there's something evil there.
The dead don't rest here.
His body was completely mutilated and half-eaten.
I don't know how they're not killing each other.
"You're mine.
You can't escape.
" My name is Amy Allan.
[Crying.]
What's happening? I see dead people.
It seems like a devil.
I speak to dead people.
He's pissed off.
And they speak to me.
I felt real fear.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
I think she's being murdered.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
Serial killer pops in my head.
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
Nobody believes me.
It's my job to reveal them.
- Do you think there's still bodies there? - I do.
But Steve and I never speak We never communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end.
You got problems.
I got news for you.
When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay This is our house whether they like it or not.
Or time to get out.
This is their house, the house of the dead.
I'm in Warsaw, Indiana.
It's about 40 miles west of Fort Wayne.
I got a call from a guy who runs a hotel in town.
Now, he says he was a lifelong skeptic until he bought the place about eight years ago.
He says activity's so bad, he's losing employees and customers.
It's his dream business, but he says if me and Amy can't help him out, he might have to shut the place down.
MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, I look for anything that might influence her findings.
This hotel has a lot of artwork and historic photos that have to be covered or removed.
When I'm finished, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
AMY: There's a lot of dead people here.
They're acting like they're still alive.
I'm talking, like, about 50 people here.
Do you know if these dead come inside at all? Yes, they do.
They, um they can come and go as they please.
The dead don't rest here.
STEVE: Well, Dan, I'm glad I'm here.
Um, when we spoke on the phone, you sounded like you're at the point where you're almost ready to close this place down because of the activity.
We're having trouble with employees being scared at night.
- Okay.
- I've had several quit.
Customers not staying.
So, give me an idea of what people are experiencing here.
- What's going on? - Knocking on the door.
Things moving off the shelves.
I've heard of people getting touched.
This seems to be worse the last couple years.
Now, how long have you had this place? Eight years.
This is a three-story building.
Now, I see the restaurant here on the first floor.
What else you got going on? On the second floor, we have a sports bar, and on the third floor, we have seven hotel rooms.
Okay.
So now, when you bought it, did you know it was haunted? I did not.
I dismissed a lot of it.
What changed your mind? I was standing at the edge of the bar, happened to look down at the floor, and I seen a black fog go across the floor and then just come up and then schoo, just gone.
What do you think's going on? Not sure 100%, but the last two years, there's a lot of lot of bad things.
Sounds like you could lose the business.
Maybe.
Met a lot of people here, lot of good friends, - like to keep 'em here.
- Right.
Okay.
What people are seeing is kind of like a ghost but with a black sheet on it.
Everybody thinks that it was a devil or a monster, but it's a person.
He goes under, uh, in the ground, and he's, like, always kicking, uh, the floor.
Then he was showing me, like, spinning the structure.
Obviously it doesn't spin, but I think structurally, you know, it has issues all the time because he's kind of [bleep.]
with the whole thing.
This thing that's under the ground causes a lot of the stuff that's happening here.
And I would think that most people probably are also thinking that there's some kind of poltergeist, but it's not.
He's in his little hole, and he projects his energy and affects the surroundings.
What's going on in here? We have a lot of things moving around in this kitchen.
We're concerned about that.
For example, the broom going across the room.
The bartender There was nobody in the kitchen at the time, and the bartender heard a lot of noise Okay.
Came out and saw the broom is in the middle of the floor here, and she knew that the last time she walked out there she saw it on the wall back there.
Okay.
Nobody was in the kitchen? - Nobody was in the kitchen.
- Okay.
So now, has anything else happened in this place? Yes.
The day that I purchased the building, I walked through the door, walked past the dishwasher and stopped for some reason and took a glance at it, and it just squirted me in the face twice real quick.
We had some, um, more issues with plumbing with faucets going on and off.
Lot of things that seem, like, to try to disrupt the business it seems like.
He has a lot of energy.
It'll affect everything structurally, you know, like, water, uh, plumbing.
It's a lot of him.
A lot of him.
Can you describe what he looks like? And he's, like, squished himself out, 'cause he's in the ground, you know, and, uh, just has his legs, which are always kicking.
It's very strange.
So, Leslie, thanks for taking the time to talk to me.
You've been working here for a while? About 17 years.
Bartender and waitress.
I've heard about all the things that are happening here.
Um, what about yourself? Any experiences? Quite a few.
I had somebody tap me on the shoulder.
Okay.
Where were you? I was at the computer station.
No one was around me.
You're sure about that? Yeah.
There was nobody there.
And anything else? I was leaving one night and saw someone standing on the third floor in the window in the hallway.
Okay.
Was it a guest? No.
There were no guests that night.
I'm the last one here, and I know if the hotel rooms are rented or not because we're the check-in.
Okay.
Describe the man to me.
Tall and broad-shouldered, dark suit.
A suit? Yeah, like, old-fashioned suit, bowler hat.
Okay.
Now, Leslie, you've been here What? Almost 17 years.
I mean, how you dealing with this? I mean, why do you stay? I love the place, but if I felt a definite threat, I would I would probably not be here.
There's a male here.
He is a workaholic.
He's always moving around.
He's always working.
Uh, I think that they do see him.
Mostly it's just solid, normal-looking person.
I think the, uh workaholic doesn't like people up here.
He's mad.
Came right to the door and was like, "Aah!" Oh, lordy.
He hates this [bleep.]
Oh, damn.
Oh, geez.
Okay.
He's freaking the [bleep.]
out.
He's yelling, "Get out of here!" You know, "Leave me alone!" He invokes such rage in people.
I don't know how they're not killing each other.
Now, how long did you work here? About four years.
I bartended.
I was talking to Danny.
He said a lot of the employees quit over the stuff that happened here.
What was the feeling like for you when you worked here? I would experience fear almost as if I was a child again locked in a dark bedroom with demons under my bed and monsters in my closet.
That's how bad it was? What about experiences? Have you had any? Yes.
When I was closing the bar, I witnessed a shadow that actually resembled a man directly behind me, and it was, like, 7, 8 foot tall.
What did you do? I was in shock.
I didn't really know what to do, and from that point, - I was just, like, "I have seen a ghost.
" - Geez.
- You have anything else? - Yes.
I was working in here, and I was pushing in the barstools, and I got to about this barstool right here and as I went to push it in, it almost just moved for me.
Show me what happened when the chair moved on you.
Okay.
I put my foot on it and grabbed here, and then I went to push it, and as I went to push it, it was almost, like, it just moved for me so gracefully.
All right.
Now, these are heavy.
They're not Right.
These aren't light.
I mean, you got to push it.
I can't even try to debunk that.
I just really feel like there's something here.
AMY: The workaholic, he's pissed off.
I mean, he's doing things with the chairs.
[Chuckles.]
I feel like he has pushed living people definitely.
You know, he's like, "This is my space.
" "Get out of the way, 'cause here I come.
" And definitely they got to feel this [bleep.]
energy, like, it is so intense.
It is so directed.
I just feel like massive amounts of tension, the heart, you know, just [bleep.]
pound Like, I'd almost think some people, they can't [bleep.]
breathe here.
STEVE: Now, Kathy, I understand that you actually worked at the hotel for a little bit.
- Is that right? - KATHY: Yes.
I worked there for about six months, but I've been a customer for about 15 years.
Now, did you stop working there because of what was going on? That was a very big part of it.
Yeah.
I read the signs.
You know, somebody was warning me about something, so, um Okay.
Now, what kind of things are we talking about? When I was a patron sitting at the bar one evening, um, I turned, and I saw two apparitions in booth one.
Okay.
How do you know they were apparitions? I said to the waitress, "You've got people in booth one?" And she turned and said, "Kath, there's nobody there.
" So it couldn't have been a mirror reflection of anything? No.
There's no mirror anywhere near it.
- Near it.
- Nope.
Anything else? One full moon night, the bar was closed, and looked up, and on the third floor, I saw a man in the middle window, and it was like he was looking up and down the street.
You know, you're the second person to tell me that.
What'd he look like? He had a fedora, so he kind of resembled a gangster.
- Really? - Yeah.
Would you recognize him if you saw him in a photo or a sketch? I believe so.
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Anything else? When I was working and I was doing the dishes, - I was by the, uh, sink - Okay.
And I felt a tug on my apron.
Was anybody walking by you at the time? No.
No.
'Cause I looked around, and there was nobody around me.
So you've had a lot of experiences there.
What do you think is going on in this place? There's no question in my mind that there's something evil there.
The workaholic likes this floor.
He is, like, putting pillows on people's faces.
He does not like, um, drug addicts and whores.
His thing of, you know, getting the people [bleep.]
up, and he's smothering 'em.
He's trying to kill 'em with the [bleep.]
smothering 'em to death.
Somehow made it look like a heart attack.
Makes me feel very uncomfortable and panicked.
There's some talk he may have killed someone after he is dead.
STEVE: Dan and his employees didn't know much about the history of the Barbee Hotel, so I'm at the local library to see what I can find.
Searching through old records, I find a man named Joseph Plu who used to live on my client's property in the late 1800s.
Turns out he was accused of a brutal double murder at his neighbor's house.
I've called on my old friend Butch Barile.
He's a local retired detective.
He said he'd dig into the case for me and tell me exactly what happened.
STEVE: February of 1887, I come across an article, this kid Joseph Plu who got charged with a double murder right on the property I'm investigating.
What were you able to find out? Joseph Plu lived on your client's land with his grandparents next to a Henry Dunham, who had hired Joseph Plu to work and help him on his farm.
So, what kind of a crime scene are we looking at? What happened? So, it was, uh it was a pretty grisly crime scene.
Henry, he had a 20-month-old baby, a daughter, and her throat was slit ear to ear.
The other victim was Henry himself.
Okay.
He was found out in the yard with several stab wounds and, uh, it's thought that hogs got to him.
His body was completely mutilated and half-eaten, literally.
I see, like, somebody's face being [bleep.]
I feel like it's a male.
He's, like, very much in pain right now, and he can't breathe.
Ow! Something got hit in the head, maybe, here.
I know there's a few people.
There's more than one.
I think he's just in his death state.
There's so much pain in my head.
Oh, my God.
So what happens next? A neighbor happened to be walking near the property, found him laying there, went inside the house and found Lucy Dunham, Henry's wife, who was just barely clinging to life.
She also had several stab wounds and and severe head injuries.
So now, at the time, Plu lived on my client's property, and I'm assuming now that 'cause she survived, she identifies him as the perp.
She identifies him, but also she knew there were two other people there, but she couldn't identify either one of 'em.
Now, there's a lot of rage in this case, and what would motivate this kid, Plu, to do this? My understanding is that there was a lot of animosity between him and the wife.
- Okay.
- They'd have some confrontations and some problems.
- He didn't really care for her.
- Okay.
In fact, I think they'd had some problems with Mr.
Dunham arguing over, you know, over pay.
Joseph Plu, he had some some cash on him.
He had $90, my understanding was, and I think some of it had bloodstains on it.
Okay.
You and I both know that this is not the type of murder, especially with this baby that you commit over $85 No or whatever money.
No, not at all.
It was, uh, some, you know, severe hatred involved.
Wow.
Okay.
There's a dead lady.
She's, like, hanging on.
She's, like, hanging on to my leg.
She's, like, being dragged across the floor.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
She, like I don't know what the [bleep.]
happened to her, man.
She got [bleep.]
I think that somebody killed her.
There's a couple of men around her.
I feel them.
She knew one for sure.
Why is my friend doing this? Someone says it's a brutal assault with a little knife.
I feel like someone got stabbed.
Uh Okay.
So now, Plu gets charged.
Does he get convicted? What's the story? Plu does get charged and gets convicted, and he, uh he takes a life sentence.
All right.
So, does this kid end up dying in jail or what? No.
So, what happens is he ends up serving 29 years.
Henry Dunham's wife comes back and says that she can't confirm for sure that he did do it.
After 29 years.
After 29 years, so he gets a pardon and he gets out.
Wow.
And this is Plu 29 years later when he gets released.
Now, how old is Plu when he gets out? He's 53.
All right.
So he get's pardoned.
Do they look at anybody else as a suspect? No.
It's still, for all practical purposes - Unsolved? - unsolved.
This dead guy, someone's calling him derogatory names.
MATTHEW: What do they say? They're saying that he's gay and stuff.
What are you shaking your head about? I don't understand how this could be such a violent place.
It's too much.
Makes me feel very uncomfortable and panicked.
I feel very, very sad, like I want to cry.
One of the first things I do on a case is reach out to local historians.
Usually I don't turn up too much, but in this case, a local genealogist tells me that the man that built Dan's hotel has a wild story and I'm definitely gonna want to hear it.
STEVE: Well, Beth, thanks for meeting me.
I appreciate that.
You mentioned on the phone that the guy that originally built the hotel on the property I'm investigating had an interesting story behind him? Yes.
His name was Henry Hover.
He was a farmer.
This is a photo that we found when he was farming.
He you can see he's at the end of the photo here.
Okay.
So, how does he go from being a farmer to building a hotel? He started amassing that property in 1880, and it took him 17 years, but in 1897, he got the hotel.
These are the photos of the hotel that we have.
He he just stuck to his vision.
Okay.
So now he has his dream hotel.
What happens? Does he live there happily ever after? I mean, what's the story? No.
Henry just has one tragedy after another.
he loses a son Ira who's sick.
He dies of unknown causes.
In 1901, his wife loses a child in childbirth.
The biggest tragedy happened in 1902, when he lost his 3-year-old son, Elmer, to an accident.
Elmer is playing in the hotel.
They work there.
They live there.
He's trying to climb on top of a bean sack to get up to the counter.
His foot slips and his little chin hits the counter, and broke his neck.
Within 20 minutes, little Elmer is gone.
So what happens after all this? He runs into financial trouble, and in 1906, sells the hotel for a loss.
Okay.
He dies at the age of 68 after being confined in bed for a year from tuberculosis.
- You're kidding me? - Nope.
So what happened with the hotel? It burned down in the 1920s, and the hotel you see today is a rebuild, but it looks very similar to the original.
I want to say that he owned this place or was in charge of this place, um, or thinks he is still.
MATTHEW: The workaholic guy? Yes.
Do you know anything about what he was like in life? He's, like, between 55 and 60.
He came from a a hardworking background, and he feels he did well until this happened.
He's still acting like he is working.
He just goes and he just does what he did every day.
That's what makes him feel comfortable.
Beth mentioned that Dan's building ended up burning down.
Obviously, I need to find out exactly what happened.
I'm heading over to meet with a local firefighter.
He says the cause of the fire is still a mystery to this day.
STEVE: Well, Chief, thanks for meeting me.
I appreciate it.
So now, the expert I talked to said that the hotel I'm investigating burnt down in the '20s, - and you said it was true.
- Absolutely.
August 18, 1921, the fire completely destroyed the hotel.
Okay.
This is one of the articles.
What was the story with it? The fire started in the attic area and then it went and it slowly started to burn across the attic.
Okay.
Now, what about casualties, anything? It's my understanding that there was roughly 50 people there when the fire started, and not a one of them suffered an injury or a death.
Okay.
So, they were able to get everybody out - Yes - before the building collapsed.
All right.
So, do we know, Chief, exactly what even started the fire? The articles I've read said spontaneous combustion.
There was no electrical wiring in the attic, so they ruled that out and they went to spontaneous combustion.
All right.
So, in your opinion, though, what do you think? I don't know that we'll ever know.
There's been a lot of things that have happened.
It's kind of crazy.
There was a fire, but I don't know if it was actually this structure or if there was another structure.
It's residual, but it happened.
I saw several dead people on my walk, but the workaholic is the most advanced entity.
I'm meeting with an artist to describe how he appeared in life.
He's probably between He has a very thick, full head of gray hair.
His nose has been probably broken a few times.
Yes.
That's what I saw.
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time.
Well, Amy, I'd like you to meet Dan.
He is the owner of this restaurant/hotel for about eight years now.
Activity here is bad and it's getting worse, and it's hurting his business and if it keeps going like this, he's gonna have to shut the place down.
Leslie here has worked here for 17 years? She's had ton of experiences, and I kind of think she's numb to it at this point.
Now, Kathy lives directly across the street.
She's been here for 15 years.
She actually worked in the restaurant for six months.
She thinks that whatever's here is evil, and that Dan and his staff could be in danger.
So, now that Amy knows a little bit about what's going on, I'm gonna have her talk about her walk.
So one of the first things that I got when I got out of the vehicle was that there had been a fire here.
I was smelling it and tasting it, and I felt like people were breathing in the smoke, and I didn't know if it was this structure or a structure nearby.
Well, you hit that pretty much on the head.
Now, the hotel opened in 1897.
It was opened up as the Hotel Ormond.
But back on August 18, 1921, the building caught on fire.
It started in the attic.
They tried dousing it out, but you know what? They had no shot.
Now, nobody died in that fire, but there were 50 people staying here at the time, but they all got out safely, and I have an article here about it.
Now, two years later, the hotel was rebuilt and that's the building we're in right now.
That makes sense.
One of the first conscious entities that I encountered was on the first floor.
Um, so he was really strange, because what I saw him doing was, like, burrowing under the ground.
And he's, like, always kicking, uh, the floor.
Then he was showing me, like, spinning the structure.
I think structurally, you know, it has issues all the time because he's kind of [bleep.]
with the whole thing.
But what I saw as a direct result of that was causing issues with, like, plumbing or electricity or things breaking.
Dan, the first day in this place, you had issues with the water, right? DAN: Yes.
As I walked in and walked past the dishwasher, and stopped and turned and looked at it for some reason, and, um, it squirted me right in the face twice.
I mean, you've been here the longest.
Long time.
So, as far as the structural issues, has this been ongoing? Yeah.
I mean, some of it you chalk up to it's an old building.
But we have a lot of electrical glitches and computer glitches.
That happens a lot.
Interesting.
STEVE: Okay.
So what else did you see? During my walk, I came across a couple of murder scenes, and one of them involved a female in the bar area.
So I walk over there and this woman, like, grabbed on to my lower legs and was, like, dragging herself on the floor.
She was beaten.
There were three men that were involved at least.
She knew one of them most certainly.
I kept hearing, like, while all this chaos is going on, like, the guys were laughing.
It was excruciatingly painful.
The next murder victim I encountered was a male outside who was stuck in his death state.
I started feeling like a really sharp pain in my chest, and so I think he was stabbed.
And I'm hearing these men clearly, like, yelling at me, like, horrible, really awful things.
And I think there was some kind of issue with him where these males might have thought that he was a homosexual or something of that nature.
There was a double murder that had strong connection to this place.
It happened in 1887.
A guy by the name of Joseph Plu lived here.
Now, I got a photo of him.
Now, he lived next door to a guy named Henry Dunham.
And now, Henry lived on the property with his wife and 20-month-old daughter.
So he needed to hire somebody to work on the farm for him, and he hired this guy.
Now, on February 7, 1887, this is when a brutal crime takes place.
Henry was stabbed repeatedly.
They find Henry in the barn area outside.
He's stabbed to death and his body's mutilated because he had hogs on the property that basically went to town on him, and they ate him.
Now, inside, his 20-month-old daughter was also murdered.
It was pretty brutal.
She was cut from ear to ear, practically almost right to the point where her head was cut off.
His wife Lucy was stabbed several times and beaten, but she survived actually.
This is where it gets interesting.
She told the cops that there were three attackers, and one of them was Plu.
She's like, "Yeah.
It was him and two other guys," that she couldn't identify.
He's the only one that gets charged.
"I'm not sure Plu was at the crime scene.
" This is after the guy's in jail for 29 years.
So why would she retract that? Your guess is as good as mine.
It's still a mystery to this day, this case.
This is actually a picture of Plu when he came out, This is, uh this is him.
Did you know about any of this? 'Cause you seem upset about it, and I know it's a terrible story.
When she spoke about the woman, um I've gotten feelings about, uh, a lady, um, that was, uh, raped and and murdered.
So I felt it.
You know, it was, uh, by more than just one person.
Her spirit had came through me and talked with me and, uh um, she she's, like, telling me that she was forced to retract that.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
Well, let me ask you a question.
Do you think she has abilities? Yes.
- Mm-hmm.
- Yes, I do.
It seems to me that she wants people to know exactly what happened.
She wants, you know, the truth to be told.
I think it was him.
They raped her.
All right.
So what else happened on your walk? One of the people that I encountered, he seemed to me to be the most physically present dead person here.
And he came off very much as like a workaholic, but when I went upstairs, very different.
He was like, "Get the [bleep.]
out of there.
This is this is my my space.
" One of the ways that he sometimes shows himself is as a tall, shadow-type figure.
Now, you've seen a guy in the window upstairs, though, right? - A tall guy? - KATHY: Yes.
And when I've seen him, he was just, like, looking down each side of the street as to see if he he's looking for someone, like a lookout-type of a guy.
Mm-hmm.
You saw it leaving work one day when nobody's here.
Yeah.
There was nobody in the building when I left.
Mm-hmm.
Did you get any sense of who this guy might have been when he was alive? He worked his whole life to do well for himself, and he felt like he did do well for himself.
I thought that he either owned this place or was in charge of this place.
And, uh, he thinks that he's still - Running it - running it.
Uh, I got that he was between 55 and 60 years old.
His moods seemed to be very drastic ups and downs, ups and downs.
And he's still like that.
Well, it makes me think of the guy Henry Hover that originally built this place.
Now, he was a hard worker, he was a workaholic.
He was a farmer.
In 1880, he started buying little pieces of land.
Took him 17 years to buy the property and build this hotel, which was his dream.
I have the only known photo of this guy, and it's not a very good one.
You mentioned he was an emotional wreck.
Well, he lost his son Ira at the age of 6 from unknown causes from what we can tell.
and then in 1902, the biggest tragedy happened to this guy, his 3-year-old son, Elmer, fell off a bag of beans.
He was playing in the hotel, and the fall broke the poor kid's neck.
And he basically died about 20 minutes later after they found him.
To make matters worse for this guy, in 1906, he comes into some hard times financially and has to sell this place at a great loss.
Now, did you get a good look at the guy? Yes, I did.
And I had a sketch done of him.
Okay.
Take a look at this.
The sketch looks exactly like this man right here.
Looks just like him.
- This sketch you did looks just like Plu - Right.
The more I'm looking at it.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
It all makes sense.
Okay.
- This sketch you did looks just like Plu - Right.
The more I'm looking at it.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
It all makes sense.
Okay.
It matches, like, the murder that he did on that guy, the things he was saying.
Yeah.
It totally makes sense.
So do you think this guy Plu is the guy that you ran into on the second floor? - Yeah.
- Okay.
'Cause it makes sense.
And the second and third floor for sure.
Yeah.
So how'd this guy Plu make you think he was the workaholic on the top floors? Because there's so much residual information, I feel like he's able to, you know, almost disguise himself within all of this information that exists.
The third floor, the second floor, and the underneath, I think is all the same person.
Okay.
So, the guy that you encountered - that's kicking the fl - Yeah.
- Making the pipes burst.
- Yes.
The aggressive guy on the second floor we think is Plu.
Yeah.
And the third floor guy Which is Plu.
- Is all the same guy.
- Yeah.
It's all the same guy.
But now it seems to be getting more physical.
So you think this guy wants people out of here? Yes.
I see this guy taking pillows and putting them over living people's faces and trying to kill them, but he's made it look like a heart attack or things like that.
So he's capable of killing living people? Yes.
He'll, like, target people he doesn't like, like drug addicts and homosexuals.
You know, Kathy, earlier you mentioned to me that you're gay.
Is it okay if we talk about that? Yes.
Now, is it bothering you that he might have been targeting you because of your lifestyle? Now it is.
I think he was targeting me not only because of that but also the fact that I was able to connect with with the lady, and so I'm thinking he's like, "Not only is she gay, but she also can communicate with these other spirits, and now I'm I'm threatened.
" Dan, when you said it was getting worse here, you weren't kidding.
Well, Dan, we know one thing for sure.
Kathy was right.
This place is dangerous.
But the big question is, can you make it safe for your employees and your guests? For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to my partner, Amy.
The first concern I have is that I think some of the activity might get bad, and I don't think he's going to be happy about the fact that all his cards are on the table.
I am very nervous about how he's going to react, so I definitely would suggest that people not stay here until it can be dealt with.
I'm certainly shaken.
All right.
So how do we get rid of this [bleep.]
It needs to be, like, a massive hit against him.
I would like there to be a psychic knower to come with two male mediums, and they all need to work at the same time.
The psychic knower is going to be taking care of the residual that's here, and the mediums are going to be dealing with the conscious dead that are here, and there's a lot.
And I want two badass male mediums, very aggressive, very strong.
Why? He'll get intimidated a little and he needs to be intimidated.
Also, I don't want any other living people in the building when they're doing this, 'cause I also feel that they could be attacked.
All right.
And now, once that's done, the things will be okay here? It'll be very quiet, void of everything.
It'll feel very, very, very different.
I'm just I'm I'm thinking that I'm gonna miss this place for a while.
Once this [bleep.]
out of here, she'll be safe to come back.
- Yeah.
- Okay.
Yes.
Thank you.
So you're gonna take our advice, I assume.
DAN: Absolutely.
Can't wait to get rid of him.
AMY: It won't be easy removing the dead man wreaking havoc on this restaurant/hotel, but I believe if Dan follows my advice, the evil here will be banished, keeping Dan and his employees and guests safe from harm.
Whatever's going on here really needs to stop.
It was a devil or a monster.
"I have seen a ghost.
" There's no question in my mind that there's something evil there.
The dead don't rest here.
His body was completely mutilated and half-eaten.
I don't know how they're not killing each other.
"You're mine.
You can't escape.
" My name is Amy Allan.
[Crying.]
What's happening? I see dead people.
It seems like a devil.
I speak to dead people.
He's pissed off.
And they speak to me.
I felt real fear.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
I think she's being murdered.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
Serial killer pops in my head.
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
Nobody believes me.
It's my job to reveal them.
- Do you think there's still bodies there? - I do.
But Steve and I never speak We never communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end.
You got problems.
I got news for you.
When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay This is our house whether they like it or not.
Or time to get out.
This is their house, the house of the dead.
I'm in Warsaw, Indiana.
It's about 40 miles west of Fort Wayne.
I got a call from a guy who runs a hotel in town.
Now, he says he was a lifelong skeptic until he bought the place about eight years ago.
He says activity's so bad, he's losing employees and customers.
It's his dream business, but he says if me and Amy can't help him out, he might have to shut the place down.
MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, I look for anything that might influence her findings.
This hotel has a lot of artwork and historic photos that have to be covered or removed.
When I'm finished, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
AMY: There's a lot of dead people here.
They're acting like they're still alive.
I'm talking, like, about 50 people here.
Do you know if these dead come inside at all? Yes, they do.
They, um they can come and go as they please.
The dead don't rest here.
STEVE: Well, Dan, I'm glad I'm here.
Um, when we spoke on the phone, you sounded like you're at the point where you're almost ready to close this place down because of the activity.
We're having trouble with employees being scared at night.
- Okay.
- I've had several quit.
Customers not staying.
So, give me an idea of what people are experiencing here.
- What's going on? - Knocking on the door.
Things moving off the shelves.
I've heard of people getting touched.
This seems to be worse the last couple years.
Now, how long have you had this place? Eight years.
This is a three-story building.
Now, I see the restaurant here on the first floor.
What else you got going on? On the second floor, we have a sports bar, and on the third floor, we have seven hotel rooms.
Okay.
So now, when you bought it, did you know it was haunted? I did not.
I dismissed a lot of it.
What changed your mind? I was standing at the edge of the bar, happened to look down at the floor, and I seen a black fog go across the floor and then just come up and then schoo, just gone.
What do you think's going on? Not sure 100%, but the last two years, there's a lot of lot of bad things.
Sounds like you could lose the business.
Maybe.
Met a lot of people here, lot of good friends, - like to keep 'em here.
- Right.
Okay.
What people are seeing is kind of like a ghost but with a black sheet on it.
Everybody thinks that it was a devil or a monster, but it's a person.
He goes under, uh, in the ground, and he's, like, always kicking, uh, the floor.
Then he was showing me, like, spinning the structure.
Obviously it doesn't spin, but I think structurally, you know, it has issues all the time because he's kind of [bleep.]
with the whole thing.
This thing that's under the ground causes a lot of the stuff that's happening here.
And I would think that most people probably are also thinking that there's some kind of poltergeist, but it's not.
He's in his little hole, and he projects his energy and affects the surroundings.
What's going on in here? We have a lot of things moving around in this kitchen.
We're concerned about that.
For example, the broom going across the room.
The bartender There was nobody in the kitchen at the time, and the bartender heard a lot of noise Okay.
Came out and saw the broom is in the middle of the floor here, and she knew that the last time she walked out there she saw it on the wall back there.
Okay.
Nobody was in the kitchen? - Nobody was in the kitchen.
- Okay.
So now, has anything else happened in this place? Yes.
The day that I purchased the building, I walked through the door, walked past the dishwasher and stopped for some reason and took a glance at it, and it just squirted me in the face twice real quick.
We had some, um, more issues with plumbing with faucets going on and off.
Lot of things that seem, like, to try to disrupt the business it seems like.
He has a lot of energy.
It'll affect everything structurally, you know, like, water, uh, plumbing.
It's a lot of him.
A lot of him.
Can you describe what he looks like? And he's, like, squished himself out, 'cause he's in the ground, you know, and, uh, just has his legs, which are always kicking.
It's very strange.
So, Leslie, thanks for taking the time to talk to me.
You've been working here for a while? About 17 years.
Bartender and waitress.
I've heard about all the things that are happening here.
Um, what about yourself? Any experiences? Quite a few.
I had somebody tap me on the shoulder.
Okay.
Where were you? I was at the computer station.
No one was around me.
You're sure about that? Yeah.
There was nobody there.
And anything else? I was leaving one night and saw someone standing on the third floor in the window in the hallway.
Okay.
Was it a guest? No.
There were no guests that night.
I'm the last one here, and I know if the hotel rooms are rented or not because we're the check-in.
Okay.
Describe the man to me.
Tall and broad-shouldered, dark suit.
A suit? Yeah, like, old-fashioned suit, bowler hat.
Okay.
Now, Leslie, you've been here What? Almost 17 years.
I mean, how you dealing with this? I mean, why do you stay? I love the place, but if I felt a definite threat, I would I would probably not be here.
There's a male here.
He is a workaholic.
He's always moving around.
He's always working.
Uh, I think that they do see him.
Mostly it's just solid, normal-looking person.
I think the, uh workaholic doesn't like people up here.
He's mad.
Came right to the door and was like, "Aah!" Oh, lordy.
He hates this [bleep.]
Oh, damn.
Oh, geez.
Okay.
He's freaking the [bleep.]
out.
He's yelling, "Get out of here!" You know, "Leave me alone!" He invokes such rage in people.
I don't know how they're not killing each other.
Now, how long did you work here? About four years.
I bartended.
I was talking to Danny.
He said a lot of the employees quit over the stuff that happened here.
What was the feeling like for you when you worked here? I would experience fear almost as if I was a child again locked in a dark bedroom with demons under my bed and monsters in my closet.
That's how bad it was? What about experiences? Have you had any? Yes.
When I was closing the bar, I witnessed a shadow that actually resembled a man directly behind me, and it was, like, 7, 8 foot tall.
What did you do? I was in shock.
I didn't really know what to do, and from that point, - I was just, like, "I have seen a ghost.
" - Geez.
- You have anything else? - Yes.
I was working in here, and I was pushing in the barstools, and I got to about this barstool right here and as I went to push it in, it almost just moved for me.
Show me what happened when the chair moved on you.
Okay.
I put my foot on it and grabbed here, and then I went to push it, and as I went to push it, it was almost, like, it just moved for me so gracefully.
All right.
Now, these are heavy.
They're not Right.
These aren't light.
I mean, you got to push it.
I can't even try to debunk that.
I just really feel like there's something here.
AMY: The workaholic, he's pissed off.
I mean, he's doing things with the chairs.
[Chuckles.]
I feel like he has pushed living people definitely.
You know, he's like, "This is my space.
" "Get out of the way, 'cause here I come.
" And definitely they got to feel this [bleep.]
energy, like, it is so intense.
It is so directed.
I just feel like massive amounts of tension, the heart, you know, just [bleep.]
pound Like, I'd almost think some people, they can't [bleep.]
breathe here.
STEVE: Now, Kathy, I understand that you actually worked at the hotel for a little bit.
- Is that right? - KATHY: Yes.
I worked there for about six months, but I've been a customer for about 15 years.
Now, did you stop working there because of what was going on? That was a very big part of it.
Yeah.
I read the signs.
You know, somebody was warning me about something, so, um Okay.
Now, what kind of things are we talking about? When I was a patron sitting at the bar one evening, um, I turned, and I saw two apparitions in booth one.
Okay.
How do you know they were apparitions? I said to the waitress, "You've got people in booth one?" And she turned and said, "Kath, there's nobody there.
" So it couldn't have been a mirror reflection of anything? No.
There's no mirror anywhere near it.
- Near it.
- Nope.
Anything else? One full moon night, the bar was closed, and looked up, and on the third floor, I saw a man in the middle window, and it was like he was looking up and down the street.
You know, you're the second person to tell me that.
What'd he look like? He had a fedora, so he kind of resembled a gangster.
- Really? - Yeah.
Would you recognize him if you saw him in a photo or a sketch? I believe so.
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Anything else? When I was working and I was doing the dishes, - I was by the, uh, sink - Okay.
And I felt a tug on my apron.
Was anybody walking by you at the time? No.
No.
'Cause I looked around, and there was nobody around me.
So you've had a lot of experiences there.
What do you think is going on in this place? There's no question in my mind that there's something evil there.
The workaholic likes this floor.
He is, like, putting pillows on people's faces.
He does not like, um, drug addicts and whores.
His thing of, you know, getting the people [bleep.]
up, and he's smothering 'em.
He's trying to kill 'em with the [bleep.]
smothering 'em to death.
Somehow made it look like a heart attack.
Makes me feel very uncomfortable and panicked.
There's some talk he may have killed someone after he is dead.
STEVE: Dan and his employees didn't know much about the history of the Barbee Hotel, so I'm at the local library to see what I can find.
Searching through old records, I find a man named Joseph Plu who used to live on my client's property in the late 1800s.
Turns out he was accused of a brutal double murder at his neighbor's house.
I've called on my old friend Butch Barile.
He's a local retired detective.
He said he'd dig into the case for me and tell me exactly what happened.
STEVE: February of 1887, I come across an article, this kid Joseph Plu who got charged with a double murder right on the property I'm investigating.
What were you able to find out? Joseph Plu lived on your client's land with his grandparents next to a Henry Dunham, who had hired Joseph Plu to work and help him on his farm.
So, what kind of a crime scene are we looking at? What happened? So, it was, uh it was a pretty grisly crime scene.
Henry, he had a 20-month-old baby, a daughter, and her throat was slit ear to ear.
The other victim was Henry himself.
Okay.
He was found out in the yard with several stab wounds and, uh, it's thought that hogs got to him.
His body was completely mutilated and half-eaten, literally.
I see, like, somebody's face being [bleep.]
I feel like it's a male.
He's, like, very much in pain right now, and he can't breathe.
Ow! Something got hit in the head, maybe, here.
I know there's a few people.
There's more than one.
I think he's just in his death state.
There's so much pain in my head.
Oh, my God.
So what happens next? A neighbor happened to be walking near the property, found him laying there, went inside the house and found Lucy Dunham, Henry's wife, who was just barely clinging to life.
She also had several stab wounds and and severe head injuries.
So now, at the time, Plu lived on my client's property, and I'm assuming now that 'cause she survived, she identifies him as the perp.
She identifies him, but also she knew there were two other people there, but she couldn't identify either one of 'em.
Now, there's a lot of rage in this case, and what would motivate this kid, Plu, to do this? My understanding is that there was a lot of animosity between him and the wife.
- Okay.
- They'd have some confrontations and some problems.
- He didn't really care for her.
- Okay.
In fact, I think they'd had some problems with Mr.
Dunham arguing over, you know, over pay.
Joseph Plu, he had some some cash on him.
He had $90, my understanding was, and I think some of it had bloodstains on it.
Okay.
You and I both know that this is not the type of murder, especially with this baby that you commit over $85 No or whatever money.
No, not at all.
It was, uh, some, you know, severe hatred involved.
Wow.
Okay.
There's a dead lady.
She's, like, hanging on.
She's, like, hanging on to my leg.
She's, like, being dragged across the floor.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
She, like I don't know what the [bleep.]
happened to her, man.
She got [bleep.]
I think that somebody killed her.
There's a couple of men around her.
I feel them.
She knew one for sure.
Why is my friend doing this? Someone says it's a brutal assault with a little knife.
I feel like someone got stabbed.
Uh Okay.
So now, Plu gets charged.
Does he get convicted? What's the story? Plu does get charged and gets convicted, and he, uh he takes a life sentence.
All right.
So, does this kid end up dying in jail or what? No.
So, what happens is he ends up serving 29 years.
Henry Dunham's wife comes back and says that she can't confirm for sure that he did do it.
After 29 years.
After 29 years, so he gets a pardon and he gets out.
Wow.
And this is Plu 29 years later when he gets released.
Now, how old is Plu when he gets out? He's 53.
All right.
So he get's pardoned.
Do they look at anybody else as a suspect? No.
It's still, for all practical purposes - Unsolved? - unsolved.
This dead guy, someone's calling him derogatory names.
MATTHEW: What do they say? They're saying that he's gay and stuff.
What are you shaking your head about? I don't understand how this could be such a violent place.
It's too much.
Makes me feel very uncomfortable and panicked.
I feel very, very sad, like I want to cry.
One of the first things I do on a case is reach out to local historians.
Usually I don't turn up too much, but in this case, a local genealogist tells me that the man that built Dan's hotel has a wild story and I'm definitely gonna want to hear it.
STEVE: Well, Beth, thanks for meeting me.
I appreciate that.
You mentioned on the phone that the guy that originally built the hotel on the property I'm investigating had an interesting story behind him? Yes.
His name was Henry Hover.
He was a farmer.
This is a photo that we found when he was farming.
He you can see he's at the end of the photo here.
Okay.
So, how does he go from being a farmer to building a hotel? He started amassing that property in 1880, and it took him 17 years, but in 1897, he got the hotel.
These are the photos of the hotel that we have.
He he just stuck to his vision.
Okay.
So now he has his dream hotel.
What happens? Does he live there happily ever after? I mean, what's the story? No.
Henry just has one tragedy after another.
he loses a son Ira who's sick.
He dies of unknown causes.
In 1901, his wife loses a child in childbirth.
The biggest tragedy happened in 1902, when he lost his 3-year-old son, Elmer, to an accident.
Elmer is playing in the hotel.
They work there.
They live there.
He's trying to climb on top of a bean sack to get up to the counter.
His foot slips and his little chin hits the counter, and broke his neck.
Within 20 minutes, little Elmer is gone.
So what happens after all this? He runs into financial trouble, and in 1906, sells the hotel for a loss.
Okay.
He dies at the age of 68 after being confined in bed for a year from tuberculosis.
- You're kidding me? - Nope.
So what happened with the hotel? It burned down in the 1920s, and the hotel you see today is a rebuild, but it looks very similar to the original.
I want to say that he owned this place or was in charge of this place, um, or thinks he is still.
MATTHEW: The workaholic guy? Yes.
Do you know anything about what he was like in life? He's, like, between 55 and 60.
He came from a a hardworking background, and he feels he did well until this happened.
He's still acting like he is working.
He just goes and he just does what he did every day.
That's what makes him feel comfortable.
Beth mentioned that Dan's building ended up burning down.
Obviously, I need to find out exactly what happened.
I'm heading over to meet with a local firefighter.
He says the cause of the fire is still a mystery to this day.
STEVE: Well, Chief, thanks for meeting me.
I appreciate it.
So now, the expert I talked to said that the hotel I'm investigating burnt down in the '20s, - and you said it was true.
- Absolutely.
August 18, 1921, the fire completely destroyed the hotel.
Okay.
This is one of the articles.
What was the story with it? The fire started in the attic area and then it went and it slowly started to burn across the attic.
Okay.
Now, what about casualties, anything? It's my understanding that there was roughly 50 people there when the fire started, and not a one of them suffered an injury or a death.
Okay.
So, they were able to get everybody out - Yes - before the building collapsed.
All right.
So, do we know, Chief, exactly what even started the fire? The articles I've read said spontaneous combustion.
There was no electrical wiring in the attic, so they ruled that out and they went to spontaneous combustion.
All right.
So, in your opinion, though, what do you think? I don't know that we'll ever know.
There's been a lot of things that have happened.
It's kind of crazy.
There was a fire, but I don't know if it was actually this structure or if there was another structure.
It's residual, but it happened.
I saw several dead people on my walk, but the workaholic is the most advanced entity.
I'm meeting with an artist to describe how he appeared in life.
He's probably between He has a very thick, full head of gray hair.
His nose has been probably broken a few times.
Yes.
That's what I saw.
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time.
Well, Amy, I'd like you to meet Dan.
He is the owner of this restaurant/hotel for about eight years now.
Activity here is bad and it's getting worse, and it's hurting his business and if it keeps going like this, he's gonna have to shut the place down.
Leslie here has worked here for 17 years? She's had ton of experiences, and I kind of think she's numb to it at this point.
Now, Kathy lives directly across the street.
She's been here for 15 years.
She actually worked in the restaurant for six months.
She thinks that whatever's here is evil, and that Dan and his staff could be in danger.
So, now that Amy knows a little bit about what's going on, I'm gonna have her talk about her walk.
So one of the first things that I got when I got out of the vehicle was that there had been a fire here.
I was smelling it and tasting it, and I felt like people were breathing in the smoke, and I didn't know if it was this structure or a structure nearby.
Well, you hit that pretty much on the head.
Now, the hotel opened in 1897.
It was opened up as the Hotel Ormond.
But back on August 18, 1921, the building caught on fire.
It started in the attic.
They tried dousing it out, but you know what? They had no shot.
Now, nobody died in that fire, but there were 50 people staying here at the time, but they all got out safely, and I have an article here about it.
Now, two years later, the hotel was rebuilt and that's the building we're in right now.
That makes sense.
One of the first conscious entities that I encountered was on the first floor.
Um, so he was really strange, because what I saw him doing was, like, burrowing under the ground.
And he's, like, always kicking, uh, the floor.
Then he was showing me, like, spinning the structure.
I think structurally, you know, it has issues all the time because he's kind of [bleep.]
with the whole thing.
But what I saw as a direct result of that was causing issues with, like, plumbing or electricity or things breaking.
Dan, the first day in this place, you had issues with the water, right? DAN: Yes.
As I walked in and walked past the dishwasher, and stopped and turned and looked at it for some reason, and, um, it squirted me right in the face twice.
I mean, you've been here the longest.
Long time.
So, as far as the structural issues, has this been ongoing? Yeah.
I mean, some of it you chalk up to it's an old building.
But we have a lot of electrical glitches and computer glitches.
That happens a lot.
Interesting.
STEVE: Okay.
So what else did you see? During my walk, I came across a couple of murder scenes, and one of them involved a female in the bar area.
So I walk over there and this woman, like, grabbed on to my lower legs and was, like, dragging herself on the floor.
She was beaten.
There were three men that were involved at least.
She knew one of them most certainly.
I kept hearing, like, while all this chaos is going on, like, the guys were laughing.
It was excruciatingly painful.
The next murder victim I encountered was a male outside who was stuck in his death state.
I started feeling like a really sharp pain in my chest, and so I think he was stabbed.
And I'm hearing these men clearly, like, yelling at me, like, horrible, really awful things.
And I think there was some kind of issue with him where these males might have thought that he was a homosexual or something of that nature.
There was a double murder that had strong connection to this place.
It happened in 1887.
A guy by the name of Joseph Plu lived here.
Now, I got a photo of him.
Now, he lived next door to a guy named Henry Dunham.
And now, Henry lived on the property with his wife and 20-month-old daughter.
So he needed to hire somebody to work on the farm for him, and he hired this guy.
Now, on February 7, 1887, this is when a brutal crime takes place.
Henry was stabbed repeatedly.
They find Henry in the barn area outside.
He's stabbed to death and his body's mutilated because he had hogs on the property that basically went to town on him, and they ate him.
Now, inside, his 20-month-old daughter was also murdered.
It was pretty brutal.
She was cut from ear to ear, practically almost right to the point where her head was cut off.
His wife Lucy was stabbed several times and beaten, but she survived actually.
This is where it gets interesting.
She told the cops that there were three attackers, and one of them was Plu.
She's like, "Yeah.
It was him and two other guys," that she couldn't identify.
He's the only one that gets charged.
"I'm not sure Plu was at the crime scene.
" This is after the guy's in jail for 29 years.
So why would she retract that? Your guess is as good as mine.
It's still a mystery to this day, this case.
This is actually a picture of Plu when he came out, This is, uh this is him.
Did you know about any of this? 'Cause you seem upset about it, and I know it's a terrible story.
When she spoke about the woman, um I've gotten feelings about, uh, a lady, um, that was, uh, raped and and murdered.
So I felt it.
You know, it was, uh, by more than just one person.
Her spirit had came through me and talked with me and, uh um, she she's, like, telling me that she was forced to retract that.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
Well, let me ask you a question.
Do you think she has abilities? Yes.
- Mm-hmm.
- Yes, I do.
It seems to me that she wants people to know exactly what happened.
She wants, you know, the truth to be told.
I think it was him.
They raped her.
All right.
So what else happened on your walk? One of the people that I encountered, he seemed to me to be the most physically present dead person here.
And he came off very much as like a workaholic, but when I went upstairs, very different.
He was like, "Get the [bleep.]
out of there.
This is this is my my space.
" One of the ways that he sometimes shows himself is as a tall, shadow-type figure.
Now, you've seen a guy in the window upstairs, though, right? - A tall guy? - KATHY: Yes.
And when I've seen him, he was just, like, looking down each side of the street as to see if he he's looking for someone, like a lookout-type of a guy.
Mm-hmm.
You saw it leaving work one day when nobody's here.
Yeah.
There was nobody in the building when I left.
Mm-hmm.
Did you get any sense of who this guy might have been when he was alive? He worked his whole life to do well for himself, and he felt like he did do well for himself.
I thought that he either owned this place or was in charge of this place.
And, uh, he thinks that he's still - Running it - running it.
Uh, I got that he was between 55 and 60 years old.
His moods seemed to be very drastic ups and downs, ups and downs.
And he's still like that.
Well, it makes me think of the guy Henry Hover that originally built this place.
Now, he was a hard worker, he was a workaholic.
He was a farmer.
In 1880, he started buying little pieces of land.
Took him 17 years to buy the property and build this hotel, which was his dream.
I have the only known photo of this guy, and it's not a very good one.
You mentioned he was an emotional wreck.
Well, he lost his son Ira at the age of 6 from unknown causes from what we can tell.
and then in 1902, the biggest tragedy happened to this guy, his 3-year-old son, Elmer, fell off a bag of beans.
He was playing in the hotel, and the fall broke the poor kid's neck.
And he basically died about 20 minutes later after they found him.
To make matters worse for this guy, in 1906, he comes into some hard times financially and has to sell this place at a great loss.
Now, did you get a good look at the guy? Yes, I did.
And I had a sketch done of him.
Okay.
Take a look at this.
The sketch looks exactly like this man right here.
Looks just like him.
- This sketch you did looks just like Plu - Right.
The more I'm looking at it.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
It all makes sense.
Okay.
- This sketch you did looks just like Plu - Right.
The more I'm looking at it.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
It all makes sense.
Okay.
It matches, like, the murder that he did on that guy, the things he was saying.
Yeah.
It totally makes sense.
So do you think this guy Plu is the guy that you ran into on the second floor? - Yeah.
- Okay.
'Cause it makes sense.
And the second and third floor for sure.
Yeah.
So how'd this guy Plu make you think he was the workaholic on the top floors? Because there's so much residual information, I feel like he's able to, you know, almost disguise himself within all of this information that exists.
The third floor, the second floor, and the underneath, I think is all the same person.
Okay.
So, the guy that you encountered - that's kicking the fl - Yeah.
- Making the pipes burst.
- Yes.
The aggressive guy on the second floor we think is Plu.
Yeah.
And the third floor guy Which is Plu.
- Is all the same guy.
- Yeah.
It's all the same guy.
But now it seems to be getting more physical.
So you think this guy wants people out of here? Yes.
I see this guy taking pillows and putting them over living people's faces and trying to kill them, but he's made it look like a heart attack or things like that.
So he's capable of killing living people? Yes.
He'll, like, target people he doesn't like, like drug addicts and homosexuals.
You know, Kathy, earlier you mentioned to me that you're gay.
Is it okay if we talk about that? Yes.
Now, is it bothering you that he might have been targeting you because of your lifestyle? Now it is.
I think he was targeting me not only because of that but also the fact that I was able to connect with with the lady, and so I'm thinking he's like, "Not only is she gay, but she also can communicate with these other spirits, and now I'm I'm threatened.
" Dan, when you said it was getting worse here, you weren't kidding.
Well, Dan, we know one thing for sure.
Kathy was right.
This place is dangerous.
But the big question is, can you make it safe for your employees and your guests? For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to my partner, Amy.
The first concern I have is that I think some of the activity might get bad, and I don't think he's going to be happy about the fact that all his cards are on the table.
I am very nervous about how he's going to react, so I definitely would suggest that people not stay here until it can be dealt with.
I'm certainly shaken.
All right.
So how do we get rid of this [bleep.]
It needs to be, like, a massive hit against him.
I would like there to be a psychic knower to come with two male mediums, and they all need to work at the same time.
The psychic knower is going to be taking care of the residual that's here, and the mediums are going to be dealing with the conscious dead that are here, and there's a lot.
And I want two badass male mediums, very aggressive, very strong.
Why? He'll get intimidated a little and he needs to be intimidated.
Also, I don't want any other living people in the building when they're doing this, 'cause I also feel that they could be attacked.
All right.
And now, once that's done, the things will be okay here? It'll be very quiet, void of everything.
It'll feel very, very, very different.
I'm just I'm I'm thinking that I'm gonna miss this place for a while.
Once this [bleep.]
out of here, she'll be safe to come back.
- Yeah.
- Okay.
Yes.
Thank you.
So you're gonna take our advice, I assume.
DAN: Absolutely.
Can't wait to get rid of him.
AMY: It won't be easy removing the dead man wreaking havoc on this restaurant/hotel, but I believe if Dan follows my advice, the evil here will be banished, keeping Dan and his employees and guests safe from harm.