The Dead Files (2011) s07e12 Episode Script
Vengeance: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Yeah, they definitely feel pain with this guy.
Come on.
It came at me so fast, and then, like, swoosh.
There's times when she really loses her [bleep.]
Someone probably shot him.
Shot him twice.
Killed him.
Oh [bleep.]
.
Somebody dies.
I tell my kids everything's fine.
But I'm not sure if I'm telling them the truth.
They want to kill someone.
They want to kill him.
Something bad's going to happen.
My name is Amy Allan.
There's panic.
And it's almost like a butchering.
I see dead people.
They all died horribly.
I speak to dead people.
Get out of here.
And they speak to me.
Vicious.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
It doesn't matter where you are.
I'll find you.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
This guy's a real piece of work.
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
I feel like I live in a house of Hell.
It's my job to reveal them.
This is not good.
But Steve and I never speak We never communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end I want my life back.
When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay - Is he trying to kill her? - [Sobs.]
Or time to get out.
Oh, my God.
This is going to kill us.
STEVE: I'm out here in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
I got called in by a woman who sounded pretty damn scared on the phone.
She says she's about to take over a restaurant that's been in her family for 40 years.
But the activity is so bad she doesn't know if it's safe for her and her children to be there.
She says, if Amy and I can't help her out, she may have to close the place up.
MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, I need to clear the restaurant of anything that might influence her findings.
Artwork, photographs and religious icons need to be covered or removed.
When I'm finished, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
Okay.
Before I got here, I saw this location.
And there was, like, nothing, you know, like, no buildings.
It was all, like, just land and black.
This thing, uh, came up to me.
And it pointed to the ground.
And then, I saw water trickling.
And then, the water all of a sudden was flowing with blood.
STEVE: So, Carla, I'm glad I'm here 'cause, when we spoke on the phone, you sounded scared.
CARLA: Right.
Okay.
So give me a rundown of what's going on.
We've got people hearing noises, objects moving, electrical problems, apparitions.
And people are being touched.
This business has been in my family for 40 years.
I'm taking over.
My dad, this is his life's work.
And it's part of the family.
It's my whole life.
But I also want to protect my children.
I tell my kids that there's nothing to be scared of, everything's fine.
I'm not sure if I'm telling them the truth.
Okay.
So, now, who exactly works here? There's all of us.
That's my mom.
She's 82.
That's my son.
He's 16.
That's me.
That's my dad.
He's 84.
And that's my daughter.
She's 13.
My daughter particularly has increased my concern.
She's so genuinely frightened.
Now, have you lost any, uh, staff - because of what's going on here? - I have.
And I've had to change people's schedules also who They'll, like, refuse to close or be alone in the restaurant at night.
I mean, I don't like to be in here alone at night either.
I mean, how are you managing, never mind everybody else? What about you? There's just days I don't want to come in.
Sometimes, I get really anxious, particularly when I'm at work.
Now, is that something you experience away from here? No.
What are you hoping we can do for you? I want you to tell me that I can stay here and I can honor my dad's life's work and I can be the good daughter and the good mom.
There's a lot going on.
I mean, a lot of residual There's a lot of men, pandemonium.
They're drinking and partying.
They're getting crazy.
Do you think it would affect the living here? Oh, I think that they would feel, uh, dizzy.
It's crowded.
You feel this, feeling claustrophobic, you know? Very unsettled.
Uh, your stomach kind of does flip-flops just because of all of this crazy, uh, energy.
So, why'd you bring me behind the bar here? This is where I feel something breathing on my neck.
What part of your neck do you feel it on? - Is it always on the same part? - Mmhmm.
- That side.
- Okay.
So it's enough where it's it's gonna go through your hair.
- Mm-hmm.
- Really? - Right.
- Okay.
Now, how often does this happen to you? At least once a month.
And when it's happening, it seems like it's forever.
Huh.
Not like you got No vents.
Any other physical things happen here? So my back bothers me more here than anyplace else.
Now, what makes you think this is paranormal? I can have had several days of no back pain at all and get here and have my back start to to feel badly.
What if Amy tells you, "It's not safe for you to stay here.
You really need to go"? I feel very committed and responsible to keeping the business running.
But I wouldn't want my kids to ever be harmed.
Right.
And so you're kind of stuck right in the middle.
Always.
Somebody got stabbed to death.
You know, this is, like, his area.
Oh, he doesn't feel very, very good.
It's a lot of pain.
I think that people would have physical pain associated with being around him, so, like, sudden lower-back issues, acute stomach pain.
Like, you'd be like, "Oh," you know, like, [bleep.]
He acts out when he's depressed.
Ow.
[Bleep.]
Yeah, they definitely feel [bleep.]
pain with this guy.
Come on.
So, Edie, I'm really glad I got a chance to talk to you 'cause your mom's most concerned about you.
- Yeah.
- Are you scared to be here? Whenever I'm here, I can never just relax.
I'm always, "Was that just a shadow?" One night, close to midnight almost, I was just sitting in the dining room playing a video game.
And then, all of a sudden, I heard, like, a woman cry, like a woman crying out in agony and pain.
Any idea how old the woman that was moaning might have been? Maybe kind of middle-aged.
Was anybody else in the building? My mom was in the kitchen closing up the back door.
Okay.
Do you know if this door was locked? Yeah.
That's strange.
Now, is anything else going on? Well, the scariest thing that has happened to me is I actually got trapped in the bathroom.
- This bathroom here.
- Right there.
I go in there.
I use the bathroom.
I wash my hands.
I dry my hands.
Then, I try to open up the door.
And it was almost as if somebody was pushing the door shut as I was trying to open it.
You you don't think it was somebody playing - a game on you, do you? - No, not at all.
- How'd you get out of there? - I kicked the door.
So, ever since then, you've been pretty frightened to death of this place.
Yeah.
I refuse to go to the bathroom alone at night anymore.
Okay.
All right.
So, sweetie, it sounds like you and your mom have a pretty close relationship.
Oh, yeah.
We're really close.
I'm curious how you feel about her being here alone at night.
I don't know if something would come actually at her.
I just don't want anything to happen to her.
I feel anxious back here.
I just hear, like, a a male.
He's like, "Ha ha, you stupid [bleep.]
" Like, "That'll teach ya.
" He seems like a stocky fella.
Kind of making me sick.
And he's got some guy, drops him on the floor.
And he's, like, kicking him.
This guy killed this dude.
Lots of anxiety, too, that they would feel back here, like, heart racing.
Something is with the doors.
He's trying to keep the door closed 'cause he's always like, "Close the [bleep.]
door.
" He's a problem.
Obviously, he was prone to violence.
He killed someone.
He could be physically violent towards the living.
STEVE: The reason your mom called us in is because of the fact that she's worried about you and your sister.
It's a family-owned business.
I mean, grandparents have had it for over 40 years.
She eventually wants you guys to take over.
How do you feel about that? The business has been around for 40 years.
And I'd love to keep it around for another 40.
But I don't feel comfortable running a business in a building that's potentially haunted with entities that could harm people.
Okay.
Well, let me ask you a question, then.
Are you afraid to be here? Yes, especially at night.
That's when I'm most afraid to be here.
Okay.
So, what experiences have you had, Charley? So I've had two experiences.
Throughout that door, into the Santos Room, I saw a cowboy sitting at the last seat of the bar.
And he's in a brown trench coat.
And he has, like, a cowboy hat on.
He's drinking a beer.
And I thought that was really strange because it was, like, 8:00 in the morning.
The restaurant wasn't open yet.
And when I got through to the other side and I looked through the bar and the gallery, there was nobody there.
Okay.
So, it just disappeared? Yes, it just disappeared.
You said there were two things.
What was the second one? The second one actually happened right behind us.
I was going through that doorway.
And as I passed through the hallway, I looked through the double doors to the window.
And I saw a woman floating there.
But she had no arms and no legs.
Her hair was down.
How long would you say her hair was? Uh, it was probably about, uh, 2 2 feet long, kind of down to a little bit past her shoulders.
Did you think you were seeing things? Basically, I had, like, an anxiety attack.
And I was crying and traumatized, basically.
AMY: There's, like, this little woman here, probably in her 40s.
She's chubby, short.
She's a busybody.
She seems really, um, new to this whole thing, like, being dead.
She's trying to interact with this male and female.
But she says, "They're not hearing, you know, they're not hearing me.
" She's not seeing a reaction.
Mm-hmm.
Or, at least, the reaction she wants.
So, Shirley, I was talking to your daughter.
And, uh, she was explaining of some of the problems that are going on in the restaurant.
Honestly, I'm I worry about it.
And I'm concerned about it.
Particularly, I think Edie, she is scared.
I don't want her to be afraid.
And I don't want my daughter to be afraid, you know? Right.
My partner, when she does these cases, and then, at the end, sometimes, she'll tell them, "Listen, you need to get the hell out of here or close your business.
" How would you feel about something like that? Would not want to do it.
This is the legacy for my family, what my husband and I have built all these many years.
And, uh, I want it for my daughter and my grandchildren.
I would not want to go.
In the 40 years you've been here, have you had any experiences? Well, actually, the first 32 years, I really didn't have any personal experiences.
But about eight years ago, I did, yes.
Okay.
So, what happened? Late one night, I opened up that door.
The minute I stepped into this room, a ghost lady came I was standing there.
She came from this side of the room Okay.
At me so fast, and then, like, swoosh, right passing through me.
I turned totally, totally cold, totally, totally cold.
Can you describe her at all? - I would say small.
- Small.
- Small, yes.
- Okay.
Was that the only experience that you actually had here? Uh, no.
We actually had something strange happening in here with the lights.
Maybe two or three of them would just be flickering, flickering.
So I had two different electricians come.
So, what did the electricians wind up saying? Neither company that ever came out ever found anything.
That little woman, she is very frustrated.
She's very angry with them when they're not talking to her or listening to her or whatever, you know? She gets real worked up.
And then, I see her hair, uh, get all, like, crazy.
Uh, so she's, like, whipping around in a circle and freaking out.
I think, that at those times, maybe the living might have some electrical issues.
And the living might notice that.
I think this is where the little lady is mostly.
She's, like, bopping around, you know, and, like, just in everybody's [bleep.]
And I do see her getting in a rage.
Ooh, she's not happy.
She's kind of having a mental breakdown.
STEVE: I didn't think it would be hard to find history on Carla's restaurant.
I mean, after all, it sits right in the middle of Old Town.
Turns out, it was easier than I thought.
The first historian I reached out to said that one of the early owners of the property suffered through years of debt, regret and betrayal.
So, Julia, you mentioned on the phone one of the first owners of the property I'm investigating had a lot of heartache there.
What'd you mean by that? Carlos and Felicitas Vigil were married in 1910 Okay.
And moved into the property in 1920.
She was pregnant with her third child when they moved into the property.
About five months after they moved in, their youngest, a little boy named Willie, he passed away.
Okay.
What was the cause? Gastritis.
How'd it go for them after that? Ernesto was born.
But he did pass away as well.
He was 1 year, 1 month old.
He had an infection that was caused from bottle feeding.
And he passed away in 1922.
However, Felicitas becomes pregnant again.
Her name was Frances.
But Frances was only 2 months old when she passed away.
Geez.
She died in April of 1924 of a bronchial pneumonia.
I'm afraid to even ask.
Did they have any more kids? They did.
This time, the baby was stillborn.
Felicitas was so devastated she couldn't even bring herself to name the child.
I mean, just losing one child alone has got to destroy you.
Destroy you.
She lost four.
Four in a row.
Not very long after the stillborn, um, Carlos actually became ill.
And what was his problem? Syphilis.
Turns out, Carlos was unfaithful.
Ah, so now I know what you meant when you said about betrayal.
She actually had him committed to the New Mexico Hospital for the Insane until he passes away in 1927.
And when he died, she did not claim his body.
Does she stay? Does she decide to move away? No, she stays.
She does, uh, start to become quite ill.
And eventually, she does have a stroke.
And she died in January of 1959.
Okay.
So now, she dies in '59.
What happens to the property? She left the property to her surviving children.
Uh, they kept it for a few years.
But then, they sold the property.
the building became the High Noon Restaurant and Saloon.
This angry woman, she died fairly recently, I think, maybe, like, a sudden heart attack or something along those lines.
Do you know how old she was? Uh, she looks, mm, maybe 50s or 60s.
And she's, like, being very obsessed with her family.
Yeah, she's feeling to do with her family in this building, maybe leaving it to them or something.
Like, I am seeing a For Sale sign.
Mm, she's not happy.
STEVE: I've already uncovered five people who died on my client's property, four of them children.
But I need to see if there's anything else that can help my case.
Searching through old records, I find a 16-year-old who was fatally stabbed.
Turns out, he lived right across the street from Carla's restaurant.
I need to find out a lot more about this brutal attack on the 16-year-old kid.
And when I want to know about a homicide, I reach out to the cops.
I'm heading over to meet with a local police officer who's looking into this case for me.
Well, Officer Tixier, thanks so much for helping me out with this case.
I appreciate it.
- My pleasure.
- So, can you do me a favor? Before we get to the murder of this 16-year-old kid, what do you know about the family? Luis Moya moved his family onto your client's property in 1941.
And then, just a short time, five years later, he moves his family off your client's property but just directly across the street.
So, they're in the immediate area when this homicide happens? - Yes, sir.
- Okay.
So take me through the homicide.
So, uh, Luis Moya has a son, Freddy Moya.
Him and his friend, they walk down the street to a New Year's Eve party that was being held at the armory, basically to ring in 1951 into '52.
As they walk into the party, they kind of separate, go their own ways.
And as the night is progressing, a group of about 10 to 13 individuals from the Atrisco street gang come into the party.
And I can see where this is going already.
One of those people was Paul Garcia.
Okay.
Details are sketchy about what exactly transpired between the two.
But what we do know is that a lot of witnesses saw a commotion between Paul Garcia and Freddy Moya.
Okay.
And then, they saw Freddy turn pale.
They take him out of the armory.
And that's when they realized that he had been stabbed pretty severely twice, once in the back and then once in his chest.
And that chest wound actually severed his aorta.
- So he bled out.
- Bled out almost immediately.
Okay.
Paul Garcia confessed, was found guilty and did 15 years for it.
Okay.
What a way to bring in the new year for a family, huh? Yes, sir.
AMY: I'm seeing a lot of fighting.
The guy who's got stabbed, he's back here.
Frankie, Frank.
I'm seeing the guy who got stabbed again.
But this time, he's making me experience his painful death.
Really bad, too.
He got stabbed in the front and the back.
I'm just feeling it.
I think he feels betrayed and, like, got murdered.
STEVE: You know, another thing stood out in my research.
The local town marshal was hanged just down the street from Carla's restaurant.
Now, you don't hear about law enforcement getting the death penalty very often.
So I called a local author who said Milton Yarberry was so hated people lined the streets to cheer his execution.
STEVE: So, Johnny, this story's pretty interesting to me.
So there was a town marshal that was actually hanged right down the block from my client's property.
Milton Yarberry.
He's born in 1849 in Arkansas, joins an outlaw gang, kills a couple men in Arkansas.
And that's gonna send him fleeing Arkansas into Texas.
Okay.
So he's got a couple murders under his belt already.
By 1879, at least four.
Wow.
How does a guy that's got at least four bodies under his belt wind up in Albuquerque and as a marshal? He arrives in Albuquerque in 1880.
He's traveling with a woman named Sadie and her 4-year-old daughter.
When he arrives here, he's gonna befriend Perfecto Armijo, who is the county sheriff.
Perfecto gets Yarberry the job as Albuquerque's first town marshal.
He apparently liked the way Yarberry knew his way around guns.
And this is Yarberry here.
That's Yarberry.
Looks like a tough piece of work.
Yeah, he does.
So, this guy doesn't know anything about his background? - No.
- Geez.
So now you got a killer with a badge.
How does this work out for the town? In 1881, Sadie, the woman he came to town with, is apparently seeing another man, Harry Brown.
So Yarberry comes to talk to Harry Brown.
I'm assuming he probably shot him.
Shot him twice.
Killed him.
And Perfecto Armijo has to arrest his friend.
What happens with Brown? Well, during the trial, it's brought out that Brown had a gun.
Yarberry pleads self-defense.
And the jury acquits him.
Within a few weeks, he's back on the job as the town marshal.
But a few weeks after that shooting, there's another one.
And that one's gonna get Yarberry in serious trouble.
He's investigating a shot that's been heard fired in town.
He sees a man running down the street.
He yells stop.
When the man doesn't stop, Yarberry shoots him.
Again, the charge is murder.
And this time, it takes the jury 10 minutes to find him guilty.
And Milton Yarberry is sentenced to hang.
They are lining the streets.
They are heckling.
They are booing him.
AMY: I'm hearing a lot of men yelling.
Uh, I think they're angry.
Um it seems like there's something big happening, going down.
And they're, like, on top of buildings.
But they but the buildings kind of look different.
Somebody did something.
They want to kill him.
They're walking this man through the streets.
And he did something very bad.
It's like he's on parade or something.
It was a circus.
In fact, I found this article.
Local businesses were selling tickets.
For a dollar, you could go up to the rooftop.
So it's likely that the business you're investigating, people were up on that roof watching the execution.
Wow.
But it doesn't go as planned.
Armijo found in a journal this new method of hanging somebody.
It's called the jerk method.
And it's supposed to be a more humane way of executing somebody.
But when he's jerked up, his head hits the crossbeam, and his skull is crushed.
This execution is so botched they can't get the noose off his neck.
So he's buried with the rope still on him.
Wow.
He's white.
He's well-known.
I don't know if he was, like, maybe some kind of lawman or some [bleep.]
He says that sometimes, he wasn't always a lawman.
So, what the [bleep.]
was done to him? But I don't know.
I think the guy gets hanged.
I saw several dead people during my walk.
But two stood out the most.
First, the killer I saw in the kitchen.
He is late 30s maybe.
He had a very Italian-looking nose.
And his eyes were closer together than normal.
Next, I described the angry woman trying to get the living's attention.
She was, like, grabbing his arm, shaking him.
She has really long, black hair.
And when she gets mad, it's kind of, like, whipping around.
Is this what you saw? Yes.
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time.
Now, Amy, in 1974, Shirley and her husband opened this restaurant.
It took a lot of blood, sweat and tears.
But it became a success.
Recently, they turned the High Noon over to their daughter, Carla.
And that's kind of when the trouble started.
Activity's gotten physical.
And Carla's two kids are pretty scared to be here.
This is actually a photo of the two kids.
This is Charley, who's 16.
And this is Edie, who's 13.
Now, Carla's in a tough spot.
She wants to honor the family legacy and keep the restaurant going.
But she's also a worried mom.
And she doesn't want to stay here if it's not safe for her kids.
So now that Amy knows a little bit about what's going on, I'm gonna ask her to tell us about her walk.
AMY: When I first got here, there was this commotion going on outside.
Uh, there were a lot of men.
And they were yelling and screaming and just kind of going nuts.
A lot of them were on the rooftops.
Then, I noticed a group of men kind of walking down the street.
In the center of all of these men was this one man that they were kind of manhandling.
They hated him and wanted to kill him.
And then, I believe that he was hanged.
Wow.
I didn't really have to think about this one too long.
There was a guy in 1883 by the name of Milton Yarberry, who was hanged just down the block here.
Okay.
Milton was born in Arkansas in 1849.
He started a life of crime pretty young.
By the time he got to Albuquerque in 1880, he had already killed four men.
I actually managed to track down a photo of him.
Wow.
Pretty intense-looking guy.
Now, somehow, this illiterate murderer became friendly with the local sheriff of Albuquerque.
He was Perfecto Armijo.
Perfecto made a bad decision and made Yarberry Albuquerque's first town marshal.
Now, Yarberry finds out that his girlfriend was cheating on him with this guy named Harry Brown.
So, how does he handle it? Handles it with a gun.
Tracks him down.
And he shoots him, kills him.
He was tried for murder even though he was the marshal.
But he was acquitted.
Now, you think he would lay low after that happened.
He didn't.
Only a few weeks later, he winds up, uh, responding to a shots-fired-type call.
And he sees a guy, tells him to stop.
He's walking away.
And he shoots him three times in the back and kills him.
He gets tried again.
This time, he's found guilty and sentenced to hang.
Now, on February 9, 1883, he was paraded through the streets here in Old Town on the way to the gallows.
Wow.
Now, you said people were drunk and rowdy and stuff like that? Oh, yeah.
Building owners here wind up selling tickets for $1 apiece for people to actually watch the hangings from the roof.
So, most likely, people were cheering his execution on your rooftop that day.
Wow.
Interesting.
So, uh, what else? There's three different conscious dead people here.
One of them was a female.
She was in her 40s.
I met her in the reception area.
What? Continue talking.
It's a Okay.
The other area that she likes to hang out at is that dining area.
She was short.
She had extremely long, beautiful hair.
And it was dark.
She was attempting to interact with the living male and female, trying to talk to them and trying to grab them, trying to shake them.
And she feels like they're not hearing her.
And she would get extremely upset.
When that would occur, her hair would go up and get all crazy.
And this is how she's expressing her frustration.
Now, the reason they reacted the way they did when you described her in that room is a lot of people have seen this woman.
Lots of people.
I stepped into the dining room very late one night.
And the minute I stepped into the room, she just came rushing at me and went, like, like, right through me.
I screamed.
I really screamed.
Now, the funny thing is Charley, your son, saw a similar thing.
Explain to Amy what Charley had seen.
He was walking down the back hallway and just looked through the windows and saw a figure, a woman in white - White.
Hmm.
- in this room.
Okay.
So I had a sketch done of this woman.
And she was trying to, um, get the attention of a particular male.
Oh, geez.
This is how she looked when you saw her? That's upset, all right.
That's scary.
That's where I work mostly.
That's definitely the space where so many people feel, you know, a presence.
In my mind, I was thinking she wanted me out of there.
She wanted me out of her space.
She wanted me out of her place.
Interesting.
Okay.
Now, did you get any idea who this woman might have been in life? She knew that she was ill before she died.
But her actual death came pretty sudden, uh, something like a sudden heart attack.
She might have died recently.
She looked like she was in her 60s.
Um, there seemed to be some issue with her family.
I did see a For Sale sign.
And she was absolutely unhappy about it.
I think that she regretted the decision that she made about this location and possibly leaving it to her children.
That's interesting.
That's really interesting.
There was a woman that lived on the property here that suffered a lot during her time here.
Felicity Vigil and her husband at the time, Carlos, bought this property in 1920.
After moving here, she lost four kids Whoa.
Within five years, all under the age of 2.
Now, to make things worse for this woman, her husband contracted syphilis.
Now, she didn't have it, which only meant that he had to be cheating on her.
But the disease damaged Carlos' brain.
And she had him committed to the state mental hospital.
Now, he died in 1927.
I got his death certificate here.
She didn't even claim his body.
She just left it there.
Now, Amy, you mentioned this woman suffered from a disease and then died suddenly.
Felicitas suffered from high blood pressure and caused her to have a stroke in 1959.
I have her death certificate here.
Now, she was here a long time, 39 years.
But she died on the property.
Now, you mentioned she had regret about leaving this place to her kids, and that's exactly what she did.
She left it to her daughter and two sons.
- Okay.
- Now, just a few years after they got the property after she died, they sold it.
It's kind of sad when you think about that, you know? So she probably said, "Oh, look.
I'm leaving you this.
It's our legacy," kind of like the way your mother and father are leaving you - Right.
- the restaurant, you know? And and here, her kids just abandoned it.
It's sad.
It's very sad.
Now, you said there were three dead people.
Who else did you see? I encountered a male who apparently was being stabbed in the front and then got him a couple of times in the back.
I got the name Frank or Frankie with him.
He was indicating that he felt betrayed, and he feels a lot of pain and depression.
So I felt like, around the bar area, people would feel this kind of pain, stomach pain, lower-back pain.
- Oh, really? - Yeah.
Tell Amy about that.
I get the back pain.
Okay.
You know, I think I'm gonna be able to figure out who this might be for Amy and for you as well.
You said the name Frankie.
Yes.
The guy I'm gonna tell you about, his name is Freddy Moya.
Now, Freddy was a kid who lived on the property with his parents from '41 to '46.
Then, they moved right across the street.
When Freddy was 16, he went with a friend to a New Year's Eve party right down the street at the armory.
They were ringing in 1952.
Now, 13 gang members from the Atrisco neighborhood wind up coming into the party.
And, uh, Freddy was attacked by one of the gang members.
He was stabbed several times exactly where you said Oh, wow.
The chest and in the back.
Now, the stab wound in the front is what killed him.
It was so bad it severed his aorta.
Then, five minutes after midnight, he was pronounced dead.
Now, do you think this could be the kid you ran into? Yes.
Okay.
So we have the lady who died and the stabbing victim.
But you said there was a third dead person.
- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- So, who was that? The third dead person I ran into was in the kitchen area.
And he's the one I'm most concerned about.
Immediately, I felt sick, uh, nauseous.
Um, I felt intense neck pain.
And then, I felt like hands were on my neck squeezing.
I heard a male laughing and saying, "You stupid [bleep.]
That'll teach ya.
" I saw the image of one man killing another man.
I got that he was stocky and seemed to be in his 30s.
Because he was such a violent, nasty person in life, he could possibly, uh, be violent and nasty in death.
The other thing He's kind of obsessed with doors.
He has to have the doors closed.
Talk about Edie with the bathroom incident.
Right.
So my daughter went to the restroom.
And when she went to open that bathroom door to pull it open, she felt like someone was pushing it shut so that she couldn't leave.
It really, really scared her.
You get a good look at him? I did.
I had a sketch done.
We could put a face to maybe some of the problems here.
He's a mean-looking guy.
I can tell you that.
Look at that.
Wait a second.
Take a look at this guy.
Holy [bleep.]
take look at this.
Take a look at this photo.
Now take a look at this sketch.
Oh, my God.
- What do you think? - Brows look very much alike.
You can see the resemblance, the wide nose, the wide bridge nose.
This guy scares the crap out of me.
AMY: I had a sketch done.
We can put a face to maybe some of the problems here.
He's a mean-looking guy.
I can tell you that.
Take a look at that.
Wow.
Wait a second.
Take a look at this guy.
Holy [bleep.]
look at this.
Take a look at this photo.
Now take a look at this sketch.
Oh, my God.
- What do you think? - Brows look very much alike.
You can see the resemblance, the wide nose, the wide bridge nose.
This guy scares the crap out of me.
The sketch looks just like Yarberry, the marshal who was hung.
Yeah.
Look.
Look at the nose without the mustache.
Oh, God.
His eyes are Right? Now, when I laid down the photo of Yarberry earlier, did he look familiar to you? Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Plus, the guy's a murder.
You said the guy was a mur Yeah, he is a murderer.
Died in his 30s.
He's 34 when he gets hung.
Now, I didn't mention this earlier because I didn't think it was important.
But, um, you said the neck thing, right? There was some kind of neck pain that you were feeling? Yes.
Well, he was hung by his neck, right? Well, when they try to execute Yarberry, it went terribly wrong.
They try to kill him using a method called the jerk method.
And what it was, was a system of ropes and pulleys.
And it failed.
It wind up launching his body into the wooden beam above the gallows and crushed his head.
Now, the rope was pulled so tightly around his neck they couldn't get it off.
So they had to cut it but leave the noose intact on his neck and buried him that way.
Oh, wow.
STEVE: And he was hung just down the block here.
Well, Carla, now, we know why your kids are so scared to be here alone.
But we haven't answered the big question of can you stay here and still carry on your family tradition of having this restaurant and one day turn it over to your kids? Uh, for that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
So what I would like you to do is get a medium who is also a psychotherapist.
That's your best bet.
Okay.
So the first day, when this person comes, I would like them to speak with her, basically giving her a session where she can talk about everything that went on in her life and kind of process it.
The second day, I would like the person to come back and assist in her being moved on.
The third day, this person will come.
And they will initially work with the stabbing victim.
They'll be giving that person a talking-to and then go ahead and move the murderer on.
And on the fourth day, the person can come back and do a cleansing of the building and the residual, um, paying specific attention to that, uh, room.
As long as you do all of these steps, it's a huge possibility that you'll be okay.
You look a lot happier than when I first met you.
I'm super relieved.
I entertained the thought that maybe we were having a group delusion.
How do you feel now about being able to tell your dad that, "Hopefully, I can do this for another 40 years"? So relieved.
He built many things along the way.
But this is what remains.
And this is the part that I honor.
How does it feel to know that maybe, one day, that your grandson and granddaughter may be running this place? I would really love that.
I would feel complete in so many ways, absolutely.
AMY: It won't be easy removing the dead wreaking havoc inside this restaurant.
But with the help of a medium with special skills, the evil here should be banished.
And Carla could keep the restaurant in her family for generations to come.
Come on.
It came at me so fast, and then, like, swoosh.
There's times when she really loses her [bleep.]
Someone probably shot him.
Shot him twice.
Killed him.
Oh [bleep.]
.
Somebody dies.
I tell my kids everything's fine.
But I'm not sure if I'm telling them the truth.
They want to kill someone.
They want to kill him.
Something bad's going to happen.
My name is Amy Allan.
There's panic.
And it's almost like a butchering.
I see dead people.
They all died horribly.
I speak to dead people.
Get out of here.
And they speak to me.
Vicious.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
It doesn't matter where you are.
I'll find you.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
This guy's a real piece of work.
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
I feel like I live in a house of Hell.
It's my job to reveal them.
This is not good.
But Steve and I never speak We never communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end I want my life back.
When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay - Is he trying to kill her? - [Sobs.]
Or time to get out.
Oh, my God.
This is going to kill us.
STEVE: I'm out here in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
I got called in by a woman who sounded pretty damn scared on the phone.
She says she's about to take over a restaurant that's been in her family for 40 years.
But the activity is so bad she doesn't know if it's safe for her and her children to be there.
She says, if Amy and I can't help her out, she may have to close the place up.
MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, I need to clear the restaurant of anything that might influence her findings.
Artwork, photographs and religious icons need to be covered or removed.
When I'm finished, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
Okay.
Before I got here, I saw this location.
And there was, like, nothing, you know, like, no buildings.
It was all, like, just land and black.
This thing, uh, came up to me.
And it pointed to the ground.
And then, I saw water trickling.
And then, the water all of a sudden was flowing with blood.
STEVE: So, Carla, I'm glad I'm here 'cause, when we spoke on the phone, you sounded scared.
CARLA: Right.
Okay.
So give me a rundown of what's going on.
We've got people hearing noises, objects moving, electrical problems, apparitions.
And people are being touched.
This business has been in my family for 40 years.
I'm taking over.
My dad, this is his life's work.
And it's part of the family.
It's my whole life.
But I also want to protect my children.
I tell my kids that there's nothing to be scared of, everything's fine.
I'm not sure if I'm telling them the truth.
Okay.
So, now, who exactly works here? There's all of us.
That's my mom.
She's 82.
That's my son.
He's 16.
That's me.
That's my dad.
He's 84.
And that's my daughter.
She's 13.
My daughter particularly has increased my concern.
She's so genuinely frightened.
Now, have you lost any, uh, staff - because of what's going on here? - I have.
And I've had to change people's schedules also who They'll, like, refuse to close or be alone in the restaurant at night.
I mean, I don't like to be in here alone at night either.
I mean, how are you managing, never mind everybody else? What about you? There's just days I don't want to come in.
Sometimes, I get really anxious, particularly when I'm at work.
Now, is that something you experience away from here? No.
What are you hoping we can do for you? I want you to tell me that I can stay here and I can honor my dad's life's work and I can be the good daughter and the good mom.
There's a lot going on.
I mean, a lot of residual There's a lot of men, pandemonium.
They're drinking and partying.
They're getting crazy.
Do you think it would affect the living here? Oh, I think that they would feel, uh, dizzy.
It's crowded.
You feel this, feeling claustrophobic, you know? Very unsettled.
Uh, your stomach kind of does flip-flops just because of all of this crazy, uh, energy.
So, why'd you bring me behind the bar here? This is where I feel something breathing on my neck.
What part of your neck do you feel it on? - Is it always on the same part? - Mmhmm.
- That side.
- Okay.
So it's enough where it's it's gonna go through your hair.
- Mm-hmm.
- Really? - Right.
- Okay.
Now, how often does this happen to you? At least once a month.
And when it's happening, it seems like it's forever.
Huh.
Not like you got No vents.
Any other physical things happen here? So my back bothers me more here than anyplace else.
Now, what makes you think this is paranormal? I can have had several days of no back pain at all and get here and have my back start to to feel badly.
What if Amy tells you, "It's not safe for you to stay here.
You really need to go"? I feel very committed and responsible to keeping the business running.
But I wouldn't want my kids to ever be harmed.
Right.
And so you're kind of stuck right in the middle.
Always.
Somebody got stabbed to death.
You know, this is, like, his area.
Oh, he doesn't feel very, very good.
It's a lot of pain.
I think that people would have physical pain associated with being around him, so, like, sudden lower-back issues, acute stomach pain.
Like, you'd be like, "Oh," you know, like, [bleep.]
He acts out when he's depressed.
Ow.
[Bleep.]
Yeah, they definitely feel [bleep.]
pain with this guy.
Come on.
So, Edie, I'm really glad I got a chance to talk to you 'cause your mom's most concerned about you.
- Yeah.
- Are you scared to be here? Whenever I'm here, I can never just relax.
I'm always, "Was that just a shadow?" One night, close to midnight almost, I was just sitting in the dining room playing a video game.
And then, all of a sudden, I heard, like, a woman cry, like a woman crying out in agony and pain.
Any idea how old the woman that was moaning might have been? Maybe kind of middle-aged.
Was anybody else in the building? My mom was in the kitchen closing up the back door.
Okay.
Do you know if this door was locked? Yeah.
That's strange.
Now, is anything else going on? Well, the scariest thing that has happened to me is I actually got trapped in the bathroom.
- This bathroom here.
- Right there.
I go in there.
I use the bathroom.
I wash my hands.
I dry my hands.
Then, I try to open up the door.
And it was almost as if somebody was pushing the door shut as I was trying to open it.
You you don't think it was somebody playing - a game on you, do you? - No, not at all.
- How'd you get out of there? - I kicked the door.
So, ever since then, you've been pretty frightened to death of this place.
Yeah.
I refuse to go to the bathroom alone at night anymore.
Okay.
All right.
So, sweetie, it sounds like you and your mom have a pretty close relationship.
Oh, yeah.
We're really close.
I'm curious how you feel about her being here alone at night.
I don't know if something would come actually at her.
I just don't want anything to happen to her.
I feel anxious back here.
I just hear, like, a a male.
He's like, "Ha ha, you stupid [bleep.]
" Like, "That'll teach ya.
" He seems like a stocky fella.
Kind of making me sick.
And he's got some guy, drops him on the floor.
And he's, like, kicking him.
This guy killed this dude.
Lots of anxiety, too, that they would feel back here, like, heart racing.
Something is with the doors.
He's trying to keep the door closed 'cause he's always like, "Close the [bleep.]
door.
" He's a problem.
Obviously, he was prone to violence.
He killed someone.
He could be physically violent towards the living.
STEVE: The reason your mom called us in is because of the fact that she's worried about you and your sister.
It's a family-owned business.
I mean, grandparents have had it for over 40 years.
She eventually wants you guys to take over.
How do you feel about that? The business has been around for 40 years.
And I'd love to keep it around for another 40.
But I don't feel comfortable running a business in a building that's potentially haunted with entities that could harm people.
Okay.
Well, let me ask you a question, then.
Are you afraid to be here? Yes, especially at night.
That's when I'm most afraid to be here.
Okay.
So, what experiences have you had, Charley? So I've had two experiences.
Throughout that door, into the Santos Room, I saw a cowboy sitting at the last seat of the bar.
And he's in a brown trench coat.
And he has, like, a cowboy hat on.
He's drinking a beer.
And I thought that was really strange because it was, like, 8:00 in the morning.
The restaurant wasn't open yet.
And when I got through to the other side and I looked through the bar and the gallery, there was nobody there.
Okay.
So, it just disappeared? Yes, it just disappeared.
You said there were two things.
What was the second one? The second one actually happened right behind us.
I was going through that doorway.
And as I passed through the hallway, I looked through the double doors to the window.
And I saw a woman floating there.
But she had no arms and no legs.
Her hair was down.
How long would you say her hair was? Uh, it was probably about, uh, 2 2 feet long, kind of down to a little bit past her shoulders.
Did you think you were seeing things? Basically, I had, like, an anxiety attack.
And I was crying and traumatized, basically.
AMY: There's, like, this little woman here, probably in her 40s.
She's chubby, short.
She's a busybody.
She seems really, um, new to this whole thing, like, being dead.
She's trying to interact with this male and female.
But she says, "They're not hearing, you know, they're not hearing me.
" She's not seeing a reaction.
Mm-hmm.
Or, at least, the reaction she wants.
So, Shirley, I was talking to your daughter.
And, uh, she was explaining of some of the problems that are going on in the restaurant.
Honestly, I'm I worry about it.
And I'm concerned about it.
Particularly, I think Edie, she is scared.
I don't want her to be afraid.
And I don't want my daughter to be afraid, you know? Right.
My partner, when she does these cases, and then, at the end, sometimes, she'll tell them, "Listen, you need to get the hell out of here or close your business.
" How would you feel about something like that? Would not want to do it.
This is the legacy for my family, what my husband and I have built all these many years.
And, uh, I want it for my daughter and my grandchildren.
I would not want to go.
In the 40 years you've been here, have you had any experiences? Well, actually, the first 32 years, I really didn't have any personal experiences.
But about eight years ago, I did, yes.
Okay.
So, what happened? Late one night, I opened up that door.
The minute I stepped into this room, a ghost lady came I was standing there.
She came from this side of the room Okay.
At me so fast, and then, like, swoosh, right passing through me.
I turned totally, totally cold, totally, totally cold.
Can you describe her at all? - I would say small.
- Small.
- Small, yes.
- Okay.
Was that the only experience that you actually had here? Uh, no.
We actually had something strange happening in here with the lights.
Maybe two or three of them would just be flickering, flickering.
So I had two different electricians come.
So, what did the electricians wind up saying? Neither company that ever came out ever found anything.
That little woman, she is very frustrated.
She's very angry with them when they're not talking to her or listening to her or whatever, you know? She gets real worked up.
And then, I see her hair, uh, get all, like, crazy.
Uh, so she's, like, whipping around in a circle and freaking out.
I think, that at those times, maybe the living might have some electrical issues.
And the living might notice that.
I think this is where the little lady is mostly.
She's, like, bopping around, you know, and, like, just in everybody's [bleep.]
And I do see her getting in a rage.
Ooh, she's not happy.
She's kind of having a mental breakdown.
STEVE: I didn't think it would be hard to find history on Carla's restaurant.
I mean, after all, it sits right in the middle of Old Town.
Turns out, it was easier than I thought.
The first historian I reached out to said that one of the early owners of the property suffered through years of debt, regret and betrayal.
So, Julia, you mentioned on the phone one of the first owners of the property I'm investigating had a lot of heartache there.
What'd you mean by that? Carlos and Felicitas Vigil were married in 1910 Okay.
And moved into the property in 1920.
She was pregnant with her third child when they moved into the property.
About five months after they moved in, their youngest, a little boy named Willie, he passed away.
Okay.
What was the cause? Gastritis.
How'd it go for them after that? Ernesto was born.
But he did pass away as well.
He was 1 year, 1 month old.
He had an infection that was caused from bottle feeding.
And he passed away in 1922.
However, Felicitas becomes pregnant again.
Her name was Frances.
But Frances was only 2 months old when she passed away.
Geez.
She died in April of 1924 of a bronchial pneumonia.
I'm afraid to even ask.
Did they have any more kids? They did.
This time, the baby was stillborn.
Felicitas was so devastated she couldn't even bring herself to name the child.
I mean, just losing one child alone has got to destroy you.
Destroy you.
She lost four.
Four in a row.
Not very long after the stillborn, um, Carlos actually became ill.
And what was his problem? Syphilis.
Turns out, Carlos was unfaithful.
Ah, so now I know what you meant when you said about betrayal.
She actually had him committed to the New Mexico Hospital for the Insane until he passes away in 1927.
And when he died, she did not claim his body.
Does she stay? Does she decide to move away? No, she stays.
She does, uh, start to become quite ill.
And eventually, she does have a stroke.
And she died in January of 1959.
Okay.
So now, she dies in '59.
What happens to the property? She left the property to her surviving children.
Uh, they kept it for a few years.
But then, they sold the property.
the building became the High Noon Restaurant and Saloon.
This angry woman, she died fairly recently, I think, maybe, like, a sudden heart attack or something along those lines.
Do you know how old she was? Uh, she looks, mm, maybe 50s or 60s.
And she's, like, being very obsessed with her family.
Yeah, she's feeling to do with her family in this building, maybe leaving it to them or something.
Like, I am seeing a For Sale sign.
Mm, she's not happy.
STEVE: I've already uncovered five people who died on my client's property, four of them children.
But I need to see if there's anything else that can help my case.
Searching through old records, I find a 16-year-old who was fatally stabbed.
Turns out, he lived right across the street from Carla's restaurant.
I need to find out a lot more about this brutal attack on the 16-year-old kid.
And when I want to know about a homicide, I reach out to the cops.
I'm heading over to meet with a local police officer who's looking into this case for me.
Well, Officer Tixier, thanks so much for helping me out with this case.
I appreciate it.
- My pleasure.
- So, can you do me a favor? Before we get to the murder of this 16-year-old kid, what do you know about the family? Luis Moya moved his family onto your client's property in 1941.
And then, just a short time, five years later, he moves his family off your client's property but just directly across the street.
So, they're in the immediate area when this homicide happens? - Yes, sir.
- Okay.
So take me through the homicide.
So, uh, Luis Moya has a son, Freddy Moya.
Him and his friend, they walk down the street to a New Year's Eve party that was being held at the armory, basically to ring in 1951 into '52.
As they walk into the party, they kind of separate, go their own ways.
And as the night is progressing, a group of about 10 to 13 individuals from the Atrisco street gang come into the party.
And I can see where this is going already.
One of those people was Paul Garcia.
Okay.
Details are sketchy about what exactly transpired between the two.
But what we do know is that a lot of witnesses saw a commotion between Paul Garcia and Freddy Moya.
Okay.
And then, they saw Freddy turn pale.
They take him out of the armory.
And that's when they realized that he had been stabbed pretty severely twice, once in the back and then once in his chest.
And that chest wound actually severed his aorta.
- So he bled out.
- Bled out almost immediately.
Okay.
Paul Garcia confessed, was found guilty and did 15 years for it.
Okay.
What a way to bring in the new year for a family, huh? Yes, sir.
AMY: I'm seeing a lot of fighting.
The guy who's got stabbed, he's back here.
Frankie, Frank.
I'm seeing the guy who got stabbed again.
But this time, he's making me experience his painful death.
Really bad, too.
He got stabbed in the front and the back.
I'm just feeling it.
I think he feels betrayed and, like, got murdered.
STEVE: You know, another thing stood out in my research.
The local town marshal was hanged just down the street from Carla's restaurant.
Now, you don't hear about law enforcement getting the death penalty very often.
So I called a local author who said Milton Yarberry was so hated people lined the streets to cheer his execution.
STEVE: So, Johnny, this story's pretty interesting to me.
So there was a town marshal that was actually hanged right down the block from my client's property.
Milton Yarberry.
He's born in 1849 in Arkansas, joins an outlaw gang, kills a couple men in Arkansas.
And that's gonna send him fleeing Arkansas into Texas.
Okay.
So he's got a couple murders under his belt already.
By 1879, at least four.
Wow.
How does a guy that's got at least four bodies under his belt wind up in Albuquerque and as a marshal? He arrives in Albuquerque in 1880.
He's traveling with a woman named Sadie and her 4-year-old daughter.
When he arrives here, he's gonna befriend Perfecto Armijo, who is the county sheriff.
Perfecto gets Yarberry the job as Albuquerque's first town marshal.
He apparently liked the way Yarberry knew his way around guns.
And this is Yarberry here.
That's Yarberry.
Looks like a tough piece of work.
Yeah, he does.
So, this guy doesn't know anything about his background? - No.
- Geez.
So now you got a killer with a badge.
How does this work out for the town? In 1881, Sadie, the woman he came to town with, is apparently seeing another man, Harry Brown.
So Yarberry comes to talk to Harry Brown.
I'm assuming he probably shot him.
Shot him twice.
Killed him.
And Perfecto Armijo has to arrest his friend.
What happens with Brown? Well, during the trial, it's brought out that Brown had a gun.
Yarberry pleads self-defense.
And the jury acquits him.
Within a few weeks, he's back on the job as the town marshal.
But a few weeks after that shooting, there's another one.
And that one's gonna get Yarberry in serious trouble.
He's investigating a shot that's been heard fired in town.
He sees a man running down the street.
He yells stop.
When the man doesn't stop, Yarberry shoots him.
Again, the charge is murder.
And this time, it takes the jury 10 minutes to find him guilty.
And Milton Yarberry is sentenced to hang.
They are lining the streets.
They are heckling.
They are booing him.
AMY: I'm hearing a lot of men yelling.
Uh, I think they're angry.
Um it seems like there's something big happening, going down.
And they're, like, on top of buildings.
But they but the buildings kind of look different.
Somebody did something.
They want to kill him.
They're walking this man through the streets.
And he did something very bad.
It's like he's on parade or something.
It was a circus.
In fact, I found this article.
Local businesses were selling tickets.
For a dollar, you could go up to the rooftop.
So it's likely that the business you're investigating, people were up on that roof watching the execution.
Wow.
But it doesn't go as planned.
Armijo found in a journal this new method of hanging somebody.
It's called the jerk method.
And it's supposed to be a more humane way of executing somebody.
But when he's jerked up, his head hits the crossbeam, and his skull is crushed.
This execution is so botched they can't get the noose off his neck.
So he's buried with the rope still on him.
Wow.
He's white.
He's well-known.
I don't know if he was, like, maybe some kind of lawman or some [bleep.]
He says that sometimes, he wasn't always a lawman.
So, what the [bleep.]
was done to him? But I don't know.
I think the guy gets hanged.
I saw several dead people during my walk.
But two stood out the most.
First, the killer I saw in the kitchen.
He is late 30s maybe.
He had a very Italian-looking nose.
And his eyes were closer together than normal.
Next, I described the angry woman trying to get the living's attention.
She was, like, grabbing his arm, shaking him.
She has really long, black hair.
And when she gets mad, it's kind of, like, whipping around.
Is this what you saw? Yes.
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time.
Now, Amy, in 1974, Shirley and her husband opened this restaurant.
It took a lot of blood, sweat and tears.
But it became a success.
Recently, they turned the High Noon over to their daughter, Carla.
And that's kind of when the trouble started.
Activity's gotten physical.
And Carla's two kids are pretty scared to be here.
This is actually a photo of the two kids.
This is Charley, who's 16.
And this is Edie, who's 13.
Now, Carla's in a tough spot.
She wants to honor the family legacy and keep the restaurant going.
But she's also a worried mom.
And she doesn't want to stay here if it's not safe for her kids.
So now that Amy knows a little bit about what's going on, I'm gonna ask her to tell us about her walk.
AMY: When I first got here, there was this commotion going on outside.
Uh, there were a lot of men.
And they were yelling and screaming and just kind of going nuts.
A lot of them were on the rooftops.
Then, I noticed a group of men kind of walking down the street.
In the center of all of these men was this one man that they were kind of manhandling.
They hated him and wanted to kill him.
And then, I believe that he was hanged.
Wow.
I didn't really have to think about this one too long.
There was a guy in 1883 by the name of Milton Yarberry, who was hanged just down the block here.
Okay.
Milton was born in Arkansas in 1849.
He started a life of crime pretty young.
By the time he got to Albuquerque in 1880, he had already killed four men.
I actually managed to track down a photo of him.
Wow.
Pretty intense-looking guy.
Now, somehow, this illiterate murderer became friendly with the local sheriff of Albuquerque.
He was Perfecto Armijo.
Perfecto made a bad decision and made Yarberry Albuquerque's first town marshal.
Now, Yarberry finds out that his girlfriend was cheating on him with this guy named Harry Brown.
So, how does he handle it? Handles it with a gun.
Tracks him down.
And he shoots him, kills him.
He was tried for murder even though he was the marshal.
But he was acquitted.
Now, you think he would lay low after that happened.
He didn't.
Only a few weeks later, he winds up, uh, responding to a shots-fired-type call.
And he sees a guy, tells him to stop.
He's walking away.
And he shoots him three times in the back and kills him.
He gets tried again.
This time, he's found guilty and sentenced to hang.
Now, on February 9, 1883, he was paraded through the streets here in Old Town on the way to the gallows.
Wow.
Now, you said people were drunk and rowdy and stuff like that? Oh, yeah.
Building owners here wind up selling tickets for $1 apiece for people to actually watch the hangings from the roof.
So, most likely, people were cheering his execution on your rooftop that day.
Wow.
Interesting.
So, uh, what else? There's three different conscious dead people here.
One of them was a female.
She was in her 40s.
I met her in the reception area.
What? Continue talking.
It's a Okay.
The other area that she likes to hang out at is that dining area.
She was short.
She had extremely long, beautiful hair.
And it was dark.
She was attempting to interact with the living male and female, trying to talk to them and trying to grab them, trying to shake them.
And she feels like they're not hearing her.
And she would get extremely upset.
When that would occur, her hair would go up and get all crazy.
And this is how she's expressing her frustration.
Now, the reason they reacted the way they did when you described her in that room is a lot of people have seen this woman.
Lots of people.
I stepped into the dining room very late one night.
And the minute I stepped into the room, she just came rushing at me and went, like, like, right through me.
I screamed.
I really screamed.
Now, the funny thing is Charley, your son, saw a similar thing.
Explain to Amy what Charley had seen.
He was walking down the back hallway and just looked through the windows and saw a figure, a woman in white - White.
Hmm.
- in this room.
Okay.
So I had a sketch done of this woman.
And she was trying to, um, get the attention of a particular male.
Oh, geez.
This is how she looked when you saw her? That's upset, all right.
That's scary.
That's where I work mostly.
That's definitely the space where so many people feel, you know, a presence.
In my mind, I was thinking she wanted me out of there.
She wanted me out of her space.
She wanted me out of her place.
Interesting.
Okay.
Now, did you get any idea who this woman might have been in life? She knew that she was ill before she died.
But her actual death came pretty sudden, uh, something like a sudden heart attack.
She might have died recently.
She looked like she was in her 60s.
Um, there seemed to be some issue with her family.
I did see a For Sale sign.
And she was absolutely unhappy about it.
I think that she regretted the decision that she made about this location and possibly leaving it to her children.
That's interesting.
That's really interesting.
There was a woman that lived on the property here that suffered a lot during her time here.
Felicity Vigil and her husband at the time, Carlos, bought this property in 1920.
After moving here, she lost four kids Whoa.
Within five years, all under the age of 2.
Now, to make things worse for this woman, her husband contracted syphilis.
Now, she didn't have it, which only meant that he had to be cheating on her.
But the disease damaged Carlos' brain.
And she had him committed to the state mental hospital.
Now, he died in 1927.
I got his death certificate here.
She didn't even claim his body.
She just left it there.
Now, Amy, you mentioned this woman suffered from a disease and then died suddenly.
Felicitas suffered from high blood pressure and caused her to have a stroke in 1959.
I have her death certificate here.
Now, she was here a long time, 39 years.
But she died on the property.
Now, you mentioned she had regret about leaving this place to her kids, and that's exactly what she did.
She left it to her daughter and two sons.
- Okay.
- Now, just a few years after they got the property after she died, they sold it.
It's kind of sad when you think about that, you know? So she probably said, "Oh, look.
I'm leaving you this.
It's our legacy," kind of like the way your mother and father are leaving you - Right.
- the restaurant, you know? And and here, her kids just abandoned it.
It's sad.
It's very sad.
Now, you said there were three dead people.
Who else did you see? I encountered a male who apparently was being stabbed in the front and then got him a couple of times in the back.
I got the name Frank or Frankie with him.
He was indicating that he felt betrayed, and he feels a lot of pain and depression.
So I felt like, around the bar area, people would feel this kind of pain, stomach pain, lower-back pain.
- Oh, really? - Yeah.
Tell Amy about that.
I get the back pain.
Okay.
You know, I think I'm gonna be able to figure out who this might be for Amy and for you as well.
You said the name Frankie.
Yes.
The guy I'm gonna tell you about, his name is Freddy Moya.
Now, Freddy was a kid who lived on the property with his parents from '41 to '46.
Then, they moved right across the street.
When Freddy was 16, he went with a friend to a New Year's Eve party right down the street at the armory.
They were ringing in 1952.
Now, 13 gang members from the Atrisco neighborhood wind up coming into the party.
And, uh, Freddy was attacked by one of the gang members.
He was stabbed several times exactly where you said Oh, wow.
The chest and in the back.
Now, the stab wound in the front is what killed him.
It was so bad it severed his aorta.
Then, five minutes after midnight, he was pronounced dead.
Now, do you think this could be the kid you ran into? Yes.
Okay.
So we have the lady who died and the stabbing victim.
But you said there was a third dead person.
- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- So, who was that? The third dead person I ran into was in the kitchen area.
And he's the one I'm most concerned about.
Immediately, I felt sick, uh, nauseous.
Um, I felt intense neck pain.
And then, I felt like hands were on my neck squeezing.
I heard a male laughing and saying, "You stupid [bleep.]
That'll teach ya.
" I saw the image of one man killing another man.
I got that he was stocky and seemed to be in his 30s.
Because he was such a violent, nasty person in life, he could possibly, uh, be violent and nasty in death.
The other thing He's kind of obsessed with doors.
He has to have the doors closed.
Talk about Edie with the bathroom incident.
Right.
So my daughter went to the restroom.
And when she went to open that bathroom door to pull it open, she felt like someone was pushing it shut so that she couldn't leave.
It really, really scared her.
You get a good look at him? I did.
I had a sketch done.
We could put a face to maybe some of the problems here.
He's a mean-looking guy.
I can tell you that.
Look at that.
Wait a second.
Take a look at this guy.
Holy [bleep.]
take look at this.
Take a look at this photo.
Now take a look at this sketch.
Oh, my God.
- What do you think? - Brows look very much alike.
You can see the resemblance, the wide nose, the wide bridge nose.
This guy scares the crap out of me.
AMY: I had a sketch done.
We can put a face to maybe some of the problems here.
He's a mean-looking guy.
I can tell you that.
Take a look at that.
Wow.
Wait a second.
Take a look at this guy.
Holy [bleep.]
look at this.
Take a look at this photo.
Now take a look at this sketch.
Oh, my God.
- What do you think? - Brows look very much alike.
You can see the resemblance, the wide nose, the wide bridge nose.
This guy scares the crap out of me.
The sketch looks just like Yarberry, the marshal who was hung.
Yeah.
Look.
Look at the nose without the mustache.
Oh, God.
His eyes are Right? Now, when I laid down the photo of Yarberry earlier, did he look familiar to you? Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Plus, the guy's a murder.
You said the guy was a mur Yeah, he is a murderer.
Died in his 30s.
He's 34 when he gets hung.
Now, I didn't mention this earlier because I didn't think it was important.
But, um, you said the neck thing, right? There was some kind of neck pain that you were feeling? Yes.
Well, he was hung by his neck, right? Well, when they try to execute Yarberry, it went terribly wrong.
They try to kill him using a method called the jerk method.
And what it was, was a system of ropes and pulleys.
And it failed.
It wind up launching his body into the wooden beam above the gallows and crushed his head.
Now, the rope was pulled so tightly around his neck they couldn't get it off.
So they had to cut it but leave the noose intact on his neck and buried him that way.
Oh, wow.
STEVE: And he was hung just down the block here.
Well, Carla, now, we know why your kids are so scared to be here alone.
But we haven't answered the big question of can you stay here and still carry on your family tradition of having this restaurant and one day turn it over to your kids? Uh, for that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
So what I would like you to do is get a medium who is also a psychotherapist.
That's your best bet.
Okay.
So the first day, when this person comes, I would like them to speak with her, basically giving her a session where she can talk about everything that went on in her life and kind of process it.
The second day, I would like the person to come back and assist in her being moved on.
The third day, this person will come.
And they will initially work with the stabbing victim.
They'll be giving that person a talking-to and then go ahead and move the murderer on.
And on the fourth day, the person can come back and do a cleansing of the building and the residual, um, paying specific attention to that, uh, room.
As long as you do all of these steps, it's a huge possibility that you'll be okay.
You look a lot happier than when I first met you.
I'm super relieved.
I entertained the thought that maybe we were having a group delusion.
How do you feel now about being able to tell your dad that, "Hopefully, I can do this for another 40 years"? So relieved.
He built many things along the way.
But this is what remains.
And this is the part that I honor.
How does it feel to know that maybe, one day, that your grandson and granddaughter may be running this place? I would really love that.
I would feel complete in so many ways, absolutely.
AMY: It won't be easy removing the dead wreaking havoc inside this restaurant.
But with the help of a medium with special skills, the evil here should be banished.
And Carla could keep the restaurant in her family for generations to come.