The Walking Dead s11e09 Episode Script
No Other Way
Previously on The Walking Dead
My people
They're here for the food
that Pope took from them.
They'll starve without it, and they're good people.
Go, go, go! Pope is dead.
Dixon murdered him.
He's with the enemy.
I should have killed him when I had the chance.
We're gonna kill everything inside these walls.
Come on.
Come on.
Let go! Aah! Oh! I've got one on my tail.
We lost ours.
We need to take care of that bleeding.
Let's go.
This way.
Okay.
What now? Wait 'til dawn, hunt them down.
Or we just get the food and go.
And what? Walk out of here with our arms full? As long as we walk out of here, yeah.
Unless chow ain't the only thing we're here for.
I'm not leaving Daryl and Gabriel.
And I won't risk being followed home.
Carver, report.
In the infirmary.
The leader slipped me, but I'll get her.
Just find her.
Not one of them's getting out of here alive.
Copy that.
Hey we can't find Judith and Gracie.
They never made it up.
Okay.
You're with us.
We get through this and we find them.
It's not gonna hold.
It will.
Come on.
I've got it.
What else can we use? Rain's not helping.
The wind just keeps stoking the flames.
Sorry, boss, but it's scorching in there.
Might be time to call it off.
No.
Just gotta try something else.
Like a firetruck.
Hey! Hey! Come here! Come on! Come on! Hey.
Hey.
The breach? We closed the one by the gate.
Good, now let's focus on the flames.
Hang on.
There's too many sickos inside the walls.
There's gotta be another breach.
Scott and the others are checking the cul-de-sac, and we're headed toward the east wall.
If this windmill falls, it could create an opening too big to close.
I'll go with you.
We find the breach, and you take care of the windmill, okay? Okay.
What's that? Gracie.
That's our emergency signal.
Put out that fire or we could lose everything.
Go! For Pope.
Aah! Austin, you in there? Austin? Break it down.
No, no, no.
Shit.
No more.
We need to get to the window.
If we could reach this pipe It's too high! No! No! - Gracie! - Judith! Aah! Gracie! - Hang on! - Daddy! Dad! Stay there! Stay there! Come on! Come on! Come on! Go to the window! The window.
Dad, you okay? Are you? There's more! Okay.
Up you go.
Come on, Judith.
- You go ahead! - What about you? - I'll get help - Go! Get Gracie to safety first! I've got this! That's far enough.
I can't let you harm one of my flock.
Worry about yourself first.
God will stay your hand.
Just like he did at the graves yesterday.
- You knew I was there? - The Lord did.
He told me I had nothing to fear.
- You hear him? - I do.
And he tells you to defend these people? His hand guides my every step.
These are monsters who slaughter entire towns without provocation.
Massacre children.
And you pray for them? How could God speak to you? My role is not to question.
I listen and serve.
Just following orders, huh? Where have I heard that before? True faith requires doubt and I have mine.
Violence is not the path I'd take, but blood has been spilt in God's name for centuries.
His will is unknown to us.
All I can do is trust in Him.
God wouldn't allow you to murder my friends and neither will I.
Move aside.
You don't hear him anymore, do you? My flock is worth saving.
Is that your choice or His? Do you even listen anymore? Listen.
He's here with us right now.
Asking you to hear him again.
Will you? Or will you cut down a man that he has placed in your path? The path of peace is hard.
But we can take the first steps together.
For both of our flocks.
Take my hand.
Renew your faith.
Allow yourself to be saved.
No matter what any of us have done, no one is above saving.
I don't believe that.
Oops.
Wrong turn.
You killed my sister.
Okay.
Well, I gotta say thanks for this.
Was getting tired of all the searching.
Hey! Over here, shitdick.
This should be fun.
Well, ding-ding.
Thanks, kid.
Stop! Should've took you out right off.
We don't kill him yet.
He needs to pay for what he did.
I agree.
But if we go down that route we ain't all gonna make it out alive.
No offense.
I hate this prick.
But we got him now.
Let's use him.
Get what we want and go home.
Are you doing this for her? No.
No, I'm not.
I'm doing it for us.
Leah wants us gone, but not more than saving her own family.
Especially this asshole.
This can go wrong 800 different ways.
Me I am down with us getting out of this alive.
- No! - Elijah You're just gonna let him walk away? They will get what's coming to them.
Maybe not today, but they will.
I promise.
Leah, it's me.
We need to talk.
Shit.
That whistle came from downstairs, right? Use that window.
Get to the cellar.
- We got this.
- Okay.
Shit! Shit.
Aaron? - Aaron! - In here! Okay.
Hold on.
I'll be right back.
Sure.
I'm not going anywhere.
Okay.
Are you okay? - Thank you.
- Yeah.
You would've done the same for me.
I would.
Gracie, Judith? They're safe.
The walkers? Dianne and Rosita, they're on it.
Okay.
Let's go help with the windmill.
Okay.
Okay.
Leave me here if you have to.
Just make sure he's dead.
I'm not going anywhere without you.
No matter what happens.
Okay? You ready? Yeah.
Here.
Take this.
Just in case.
Leah.
We're here.
Come out.
Throw your weapons on the ground.
I need to see Carver first! Take that.
Come out! Throw your weapons on the ground! What are you offering? Lose the weapons and we let you leave.
Is that all? You head north, don't turn back.
I see anyone, anyone at all, I'm gonna kill him.
Once we're far out enough, I'll let him go.
- Screw this shit, Shaw.
- Shut up.
You expect me to trust you now? Yeah.
I do.
We're doing this all wrong.
We survived everything for what? To keep fighting and killing each other? If that's what it takes.
Don't have to.
I'm giving you a chance to save what's left of your family.
And mine.
No more lies.
Jenson.
That was a warning.
The last one.
Everybody out! Lower the knife, cut the rope.
Jenson.
The woman.
Fine.
Elijah, don't.
No one moves! Elijah.
He takes one more step, he dies! - Josephine! - Carve, don't.
- Stop.
- Jenson, pull the trigger! Her name was Josephine.
Aah! Jenson, what the hell?! Jenson! Nope.
No Jenson here.
Call me Gabriel.
The other two better back off or they're next.
Stand down.
Ah.
Your deal still stand? You had your chance.
You would've killed us.
Picked us off one by one, right? Now Gabriel does the same thing to you.
Maybe you're right.
Your friend has the rifle.
But I bet we take a couple of you down before he takes us all.
You can have your town.
We walk.
You save your family.
I save mine.
Yeah.
Negan? You know what I think.
Drop your weapons and go.
Not without Carver.
No.
Do it.
I said do it.
I'll see you soon.
Elijah.
For Josephine.
For all of them.
Get up.
Get up.
Maggie, no! Aah! Aah! The hell was that?! Aah! This is not what I wanted.
You could've had a second chance.
We both could have.
Go.
Go before I change my mind.
I'm gonna head out.
We'll catch up with you when we can, okay? Be careful.
I'll be back soon.
Promise.
Alden! Alden? You were always gonna do what you did, Maggie.
I don't blame you really.
But, see, when it comes to me promise or not it's just a matter of time before you make the same call.
So I ain't gonna give you the chance to do that.
I'm gonna be on my own way.
I heard what you said.
We're doing it wrong.
I'm just thinking about choices.
I mean, do they even matter anymore? Depends on who's making the choice.
Doubt's important.
But it doesn't make you wrong.
You telling me to have faith? Yeah, I suppose so, yes.
What about you? Yeah.
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
Alden? You see Negan? Said he'd catch up.
He left.
Hey, Maggie.
Come on.
All quiet? Where's everyone else? Uncle Daryl! Yeah.
Ohh.
Hey, buddy.
Ohh! - Missed you, Mom.
- You too, kiddo.
Look at you.
Hey.
Is that it? Yeah.
Yeah.
Hello.
Where's Negan? He left.
Ain't coming back here.
Here you go.
Just take one.
You want one? Want one? Is that all food? Made a promise and we kept it.
Yes, you did.
Yeah, just one, yeah.
No way.
Happy to see you.
Yeah.
You want an apple? Yeah? I have so many questions for you.
Yeah.
We'll fix it up.
Hey, man.
You alright? Alden? He's gone.
So many didn't make it.
All so we could survive.
And we will.
After the storm, we had nothing left.
Thank you.
Hey! Got something coming! These guys with you? Guess not.
Everyone get ready! No, no, no, no, no.
No.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
We're all friends.
We're all friends.
They're here to help.
Ezekiel, Yumiko, and I set out on a journey.
Charged ourselves with finding hope in our darkest of days.
Suffice to say, we hit the proverbial jackpot.
It's probably best that I step aside so you all can hear it from the horse's mouth as it were.
I give you Mr.
Lance Hornsby, diplomatic representative of The Commonwealth.
Hello.
I'm Lance.
Thank you for allowing us into your home.
I must say I am impressed with everything you've built here and what I've heard of your other communities.
But it's clear you've fallen on hard times and that is where The Commonwealth is more than willing to help.
If you remain, we can provide labor and materials to help you build back all you've lost.
However, if any are interested I do have another, potentially more interesting choice to offer.
Open up.
Doesn't have to be this way.
Yeah.
Yeah, it does.
Takes a minute to get used to all this.
Maybe we don't have to do anything to make it work.
There's always something you gotta do to make it work.
This place is like a city from before.
People who can't fit in get cast out.
So you found a way to get outside the walls? What do you want from me? Brick by brick and block by block, putting the world back together the way it was.
This episode really starts off with this huge action sequence.
And our characters are so formidible as heroes at this point.
And it take a lot for them to really be challenged by a group in a fight, but the Reapers just really are stronger than any other group they've come across.
Like, as individuals.
And so, whenever you see our heroes up against any Reaper, it's not gonna be easy.
We have never used a bell before as a weapon.
You know, there was this idea of, like, well, you know, Maggie was a really good leader, so she would've had, like, a primitive way of alerting people, of like, sand so that you could kind of like, dump it on a small fire.
That became the makeshift weapon that Negan uses.
But I don't believe we've used a bell other than that.
Well, ding ding.
We've been telling a story with Gabriel about the struggle with his faith and where is he with his feelings about God and being a priest.
Gabriel has had to do so many things, recently, that feels so dark that he feels like adrift and, like, he feels like he's lost his sense of closeness to a higher power.
And we thought, like, an interesting test for Gabriel would be seeing somebody that is a mirror in some ways, you know.
Like, somebody who is also a person of faith, but applying that faith in a very particular direction.
And, like, what does that mean for Gabriel.
In a previous episode, he saw this minister out there and hesitated to kill him when he saw that this person seemed to be having a conversation with God.
And it's frustrating for him.
How could God speak to you?! My role is not the question, I listen and serve, But we see, at the end of the day, when he's up against this person he doesn't trust them, he thinks that person's faith is built on lies.
And so, he takes him out for the good of his group.
No one is above saving.
I don't believe that.
Aah.
It is definitely hard to put children in grave danger.
We obviously have to be really careful about, like, making sure that it's safe for the kids.
So, the tank is, like, very, very controlled.
That whole basement sits inside a tank.
There's like a steel cage, basically, surrounding it, like, that fills with water.
The water is heated so they're not even cold, like, it's very, very balmy and, like, being in, like, a warm bath, I think.
And the, you know, obviously story-wise I think we want to be mindful of not going, like, too far with anything with kids, but at the same time, Judith is a really strong character.
I think you can really tell Judith is Rick and Michonne's daughter.
Just in the way that she kinda keeps her head in the middle of a pretty intense situation.
She has this calmness that washes over her exterior presentation so that you can really see the leadership qualities that both Rick and Michonne had, like coming out in her.
She's really quite strong.
Alden's death for Maggie is actually very devastating.
For people who've been watching the show for a long time, like, you can remember back to when Maggie and Alden first kind of met.
And Alden was a Savior.
And he really was one of the first Saviors to kind of say "I'm throwing in my lot with you.
I believe in what you're trying to do and I'm gonna help you build it.
" Okay.
And this character really was a loyal friend to Maggie.
So I think, like, really the whole thing is pretty awful for her, 'cause I think she feels like I asked people to come out on this mission and here's the price, here's the cost that was paid, the sacrifice.
And I think also, it's crushing to her to feel like he had a bad ending.
He suffered as a Walker before she came to get him again.
And I think that that's really hard for her.
You were always gonna do what you did, Maggie.
Maggie and Negan, you know, they really start off, like, heavily at odds at the beginning of the season.
But over time, you know, they've been forced to work together.
They'd often disagree on tactics.
But I think they're both strong leaders.
Obviously Negan's form of leadership was not always positive, but Maggie has also been through a lot and has had to make some dark decisions of her own so I think, really, like, at this point in the story they're seeing elements of their own decision-making in the other and it, like, definitely for Maggie, that's a unsettling feeling and an unsettling idea.
'Cause she wants nothing to do with Negan.
And yet, you know, she makes this decision in this episode to basically kill them all.
That puts her in kind of this really dark place an emotional place where she felt like she did what had to be done.
And, yet, it leaves her unsettled about the whole thing.
And I think from Negan's side, he's looking at a mirror of himself and going, this is unsettling for me, too.
I think he realizes the way that he led, in some ways, caused a lot of unease and was not the positive way of bringing people into his organization, like he maybe thought it was.
And so I think both characters are doing a lot of soul searching at this point.
I'm going to be on my own way.
We really wanted to show that our people at this point, they're being hit by thing after thing after thing.
Even the weather is against them.
One of my favorite moments, in that montage, after they've come home is when Jerry's up on the wall and he's shouting like something's coming.
Hey! Got something coming! And there's just this tiny moment where Father Gabriel just puts his head back, like, can we just catch a break for, like, two seconds, you know.
The world is pushing against them at all times.
We're all friends, they're here to help.
Our characters and Lance Hornsby, they see this guy and he rolls up and he's wearing this suit.
And he's got, like, this slick hair and, like, a big smile.
And they're just looking at him and going, like, what is this? Like, who are we looking at, you know.
Our people at this point, they're not very trusting of strangers, in general.
So they kinda look at the guy and go, like, I don't know about you, in the suit.
But at the same time, like, he's making a really nice offer and they're really in trouble.
Their place had just been trashed by the storm and all the difficulties they've been facing because of the Whisperers aftermath.
And lack of food and everything that goes with it.
We thought it'd be interesting at the end of this episode to do, like, just a deep flash forward.
And we had been thinking for awhile that Maggie was going to stay at the Hilltop and that Daryl was gonna go to the Commonwealth and eventually become a trooper.
And the, we're like, well, I mean, like, you could show them at, like, this point of conflict way down the line so that we wonder, like, what has happened in the intervene time.
Doesn't have to be this way.
Yeah, it does.
They'll starve without it, and they're good people.
Go, go, go! Pope is dead.
Dixon murdered him.
He's with the enemy.
I should have killed him when I had the chance.
We're gonna kill everything inside these walls.
Come on.
Come on.
Let go! Aah! Oh! I've got one on my tail.
We lost ours.
We need to take care of that bleeding.
Let's go.
This way.
Okay.
What now? Wait 'til dawn, hunt them down.
Or we just get the food and go.
And what? Walk out of here with our arms full? As long as we walk out of here, yeah.
Unless chow ain't the only thing we're here for.
I'm not leaving Daryl and Gabriel.
And I won't risk being followed home.
Carver, report.
In the infirmary.
The leader slipped me, but I'll get her.
Just find her.
Not one of them's getting out of here alive.
Copy that.
Hey we can't find Judith and Gracie.
They never made it up.
Okay.
You're with us.
We get through this and we find them.
It's not gonna hold.
It will.
Come on.
I've got it.
What else can we use? Rain's not helping.
The wind just keeps stoking the flames.
Sorry, boss, but it's scorching in there.
Might be time to call it off.
No.
Just gotta try something else.
Like a firetruck.
Hey! Hey! Come here! Come on! Come on! Hey.
Hey.
The breach? We closed the one by the gate.
Good, now let's focus on the flames.
Hang on.
There's too many sickos inside the walls.
There's gotta be another breach.
Scott and the others are checking the cul-de-sac, and we're headed toward the east wall.
If this windmill falls, it could create an opening too big to close.
I'll go with you.
We find the breach, and you take care of the windmill, okay? Okay.
What's that? Gracie.
That's our emergency signal.
Put out that fire or we could lose everything.
Go! For Pope.
Aah! Austin, you in there? Austin? Break it down.
No, no, no.
Shit.
No more.
We need to get to the window.
If we could reach this pipe It's too high! No! No! - Gracie! - Judith! Aah! Gracie! - Hang on! - Daddy! Dad! Stay there! Stay there! Come on! Come on! Come on! Go to the window! The window.
Dad, you okay? Are you? There's more! Okay.
Up you go.
Come on, Judith.
- You go ahead! - What about you? - I'll get help - Go! Get Gracie to safety first! I've got this! That's far enough.
I can't let you harm one of my flock.
Worry about yourself first.
God will stay your hand.
Just like he did at the graves yesterday.
- You knew I was there? - The Lord did.
He told me I had nothing to fear.
- You hear him? - I do.
And he tells you to defend these people? His hand guides my every step.
These are monsters who slaughter entire towns without provocation.
Massacre children.
And you pray for them? How could God speak to you? My role is not to question.
I listen and serve.
Just following orders, huh? Where have I heard that before? True faith requires doubt and I have mine.
Violence is not the path I'd take, but blood has been spilt in God's name for centuries.
His will is unknown to us.
All I can do is trust in Him.
God wouldn't allow you to murder my friends and neither will I.
Move aside.
You don't hear him anymore, do you? My flock is worth saving.
Is that your choice or His? Do you even listen anymore? Listen.
He's here with us right now.
Asking you to hear him again.
Will you? Or will you cut down a man that he has placed in your path? The path of peace is hard.
But we can take the first steps together.
For both of our flocks.
Take my hand.
Renew your faith.
Allow yourself to be saved.
No matter what any of us have done, no one is above saving.
I don't believe that.
Oops.
Wrong turn.
You killed my sister.
Okay.
Well, I gotta say thanks for this.
Was getting tired of all the searching.
Hey! Over here, shitdick.
This should be fun.
Well, ding-ding.
Thanks, kid.
Stop! Should've took you out right off.
We don't kill him yet.
He needs to pay for what he did.
I agree.
But if we go down that route we ain't all gonna make it out alive.
No offense.
I hate this prick.
But we got him now.
Let's use him.
Get what we want and go home.
Are you doing this for her? No.
No, I'm not.
I'm doing it for us.
Leah wants us gone, but not more than saving her own family.
Especially this asshole.
This can go wrong 800 different ways.
Me I am down with us getting out of this alive.
- No! - Elijah You're just gonna let him walk away? They will get what's coming to them.
Maybe not today, but they will.
I promise.
Leah, it's me.
We need to talk.
Shit.
That whistle came from downstairs, right? Use that window.
Get to the cellar.
- We got this.
- Okay.
Shit! Shit.
Aaron? - Aaron! - In here! Okay.
Hold on.
I'll be right back.
Sure.
I'm not going anywhere.
Okay.
Are you okay? - Thank you.
- Yeah.
You would've done the same for me.
I would.
Gracie, Judith? They're safe.
The walkers? Dianne and Rosita, they're on it.
Okay.
Let's go help with the windmill.
Okay.
Okay.
Leave me here if you have to.
Just make sure he's dead.
I'm not going anywhere without you.
No matter what happens.
Okay? You ready? Yeah.
Here.
Take this.
Just in case.
Leah.
We're here.
Come out.
Throw your weapons on the ground.
I need to see Carver first! Take that.
Come out! Throw your weapons on the ground! What are you offering? Lose the weapons and we let you leave.
Is that all? You head north, don't turn back.
I see anyone, anyone at all, I'm gonna kill him.
Once we're far out enough, I'll let him go.
- Screw this shit, Shaw.
- Shut up.
You expect me to trust you now? Yeah.
I do.
We're doing this all wrong.
We survived everything for what? To keep fighting and killing each other? If that's what it takes.
Don't have to.
I'm giving you a chance to save what's left of your family.
And mine.
No more lies.
Jenson.
That was a warning.
The last one.
Everybody out! Lower the knife, cut the rope.
Jenson.
The woman.
Fine.
Elijah, don't.
No one moves! Elijah.
He takes one more step, he dies! - Josephine! - Carve, don't.
- Stop.
- Jenson, pull the trigger! Her name was Josephine.
Aah! Jenson, what the hell?! Jenson! Nope.
No Jenson here.
Call me Gabriel.
The other two better back off or they're next.
Stand down.
Ah.
Your deal still stand? You had your chance.
You would've killed us.
Picked us off one by one, right? Now Gabriel does the same thing to you.
Maybe you're right.
Your friend has the rifle.
But I bet we take a couple of you down before he takes us all.
You can have your town.
We walk.
You save your family.
I save mine.
Yeah.
Negan? You know what I think.
Drop your weapons and go.
Not without Carver.
No.
Do it.
I said do it.
I'll see you soon.
Elijah.
For Josephine.
For all of them.
Get up.
Get up.
Maggie, no! Aah! Aah! The hell was that?! Aah! This is not what I wanted.
You could've had a second chance.
We both could have.
Go.
Go before I change my mind.
I'm gonna head out.
We'll catch up with you when we can, okay? Be careful.
I'll be back soon.
Promise.
Alden! Alden? You were always gonna do what you did, Maggie.
I don't blame you really.
But, see, when it comes to me promise or not it's just a matter of time before you make the same call.
So I ain't gonna give you the chance to do that.
I'm gonna be on my own way.
I heard what you said.
We're doing it wrong.
I'm just thinking about choices.
I mean, do they even matter anymore? Depends on who's making the choice.
Doubt's important.
But it doesn't make you wrong.
You telling me to have faith? Yeah, I suppose so, yes.
What about you? Yeah.
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
Alden? You see Negan? Said he'd catch up.
He left.
Hey, Maggie.
Come on.
All quiet? Where's everyone else? Uncle Daryl! Yeah.
Ohh.
Hey, buddy.
Ohh! - Missed you, Mom.
- You too, kiddo.
Look at you.
Hey.
Is that it? Yeah.
Yeah.
Hello.
Where's Negan? He left.
Ain't coming back here.
Here you go.
Just take one.
You want one? Want one? Is that all food? Made a promise and we kept it.
Yes, you did.
Yeah, just one, yeah.
No way.
Happy to see you.
Yeah.
You want an apple? Yeah? I have so many questions for you.
Yeah.
We'll fix it up.
Hey, man.
You alright? Alden? He's gone.
So many didn't make it.
All so we could survive.
And we will.
After the storm, we had nothing left.
Thank you.
Hey! Got something coming! These guys with you? Guess not.
Everyone get ready! No, no, no, no, no.
No.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
We're all friends.
We're all friends.
They're here to help.
Ezekiel, Yumiko, and I set out on a journey.
Charged ourselves with finding hope in our darkest of days.
Suffice to say, we hit the proverbial jackpot.
It's probably best that I step aside so you all can hear it from the horse's mouth as it were.
I give you Mr.
Lance Hornsby, diplomatic representative of The Commonwealth.
Hello.
I'm Lance.
Thank you for allowing us into your home.
I must say I am impressed with everything you've built here and what I've heard of your other communities.
But it's clear you've fallen on hard times and that is where The Commonwealth is more than willing to help.
If you remain, we can provide labor and materials to help you build back all you've lost.
However, if any are interested I do have another, potentially more interesting choice to offer.
Open up.
Doesn't have to be this way.
Yeah.
Yeah, it does.
Takes a minute to get used to all this.
Maybe we don't have to do anything to make it work.
There's always something you gotta do to make it work.
This place is like a city from before.
People who can't fit in get cast out.
So you found a way to get outside the walls? What do you want from me? Brick by brick and block by block, putting the world back together the way it was.
This episode really starts off with this huge action sequence.
And our characters are so formidible as heroes at this point.
And it take a lot for them to really be challenged by a group in a fight, but the Reapers just really are stronger than any other group they've come across.
Like, as individuals.
And so, whenever you see our heroes up against any Reaper, it's not gonna be easy.
We have never used a bell before as a weapon.
You know, there was this idea of, like, well, you know, Maggie was a really good leader, so she would've had, like, a primitive way of alerting people, of like, sand so that you could kind of like, dump it on a small fire.
That became the makeshift weapon that Negan uses.
But I don't believe we've used a bell other than that.
Well, ding ding.
We've been telling a story with Gabriel about the struggle with his faith and where is he with his feelings about God and being a priest.
Gabriel has had to do so many things, recently, that feels so dark that he feels like adrift and, like, he feels like he's lost his sense of closeness to a higher power.
And we thought, like, an interesting test for Gabriel would be seeing somebody that is a mirror in some ways, you know.
Like, somebody who is also a person of faith, but applying that faith in a very particular direction.
And, like, what does that mean for Gabriel.
In a previous episode, he saw this minister out there and hesitated to kill him when he saw that this person seemed to be having a conversation with God.
And it's frustrating for him.
How could God speak to you?! My role is not the question, I listen and serve, But we see, at the end of the day, when he's up against this person he doesn't trust them, he thinks that person's faith is built on lies.
And so, he takes him out for the good of his group.
No one is above saving.
I don't believe that.
Aah.
It is definitely hard to put children in grave danger.
We obviously have to be really careful about, like, making sure that it's safe for the kids.
So, the tank is, like, very, very controlled.
That whole basement sits inside a tank.
There's like a steel cage, basically, surrounding it, like, that fills with water.
The water is heated so they're not even cold, like, it's very, very balmy and, like, being in, like, a warm bath, I think.
And the, you know, obviously story-wise I think we want to be mindful of not going, like, too far with anything with kids, but at the same time, Judith is a really strong character.
I think you can really tell Judith is Rick and Michonne's daughter.
Just in the way that she kinda keeps her head in the middle of a pretty intense situation.
She has this calmness that washes over her exterior presentation so that you can really see the leadership qualities that both Rick and Michonne had, like coming out in her.
She's really quite strong.
Alden's death for Maggie is actually very devastating.
For people who've been watching the show for a long time, like, you can remember back to when Maggie and Alden first kind of met.
And Alden was a Savior.
And he really was one of the first Saviors to kind of say "I'm throwing in my lot with you.
I believe in what you're trying to do and I'm gonna help you build it.
" Okay.
And this character really was a loyal friend to Maggie.
So I think, like, really the whole thing is pretty awful for her, 'cause I think she feels like I asked people to come out on this mission and here's the price, here's the cost that was paid, the sacrifice.
And I think also, it's crushing to her to feel like he had a bad ending.
He suffered as a Walker before she came to get him again.
And I think that that's really hard for her.
You were always gonna do what you did, Maggie.
Maggie and Negan, you know, they really start off, like, heavily at odds at the beginning of the season.
But over time, you know, they've been forced to work together.
They'd often disagree on tactics.
But I think they're both strong leaders.
Obviously Negan's form of leadership was not always positive, but Maggie has also been through a lot and has had to make some dark decisions of her own so I think, really, like, at this point in the story they're seeing elements of their own decision-making in the other and it, like, definitely for Maggie, that's a unsettling feeling and an unsettling idea.
'Cause she wants nothing to do with Negan.
And yet, you know, she makes this decision in this episode to basically kill them all.
That puts her in kind of this really dark place an emotional place where she felt like she did what had to be done.
And, yet, it leaves her unsettled about the whole thing.
And I think from Negan's side, he's looking at a mirror of himself and going, this is unsettling for me, too.
I think he realizes the way that he led, in some ways, caused a lot of unease and was not the positive way of bringing people into his organization, like he maybe thought it was.
And so I think both characters are doing a lot of soul searching at this point.
I'm going to be on my own way.
We really wanted to show that our people at this point, they're being hit by thing after thing after thing.
Even the weather is against them.
One of my favorite moments, in that montage, after they've come home is when Jerry's up on the wall and he's shouting like something's coming.
Hey! Got something coming! And there's just this tiny moment where Father Gabriel just puts his head back, like, can we just catch a break for, like, two seconds, you know.
The world is pushing against them at all times.
We're all friends, they're here to help.
Our characters and Lance Hornsby, they see this guy and he rolls up and he's wearing this suit.
And he's got, like, this slick hair and, like, a big smile.
And they're just looking at him and going, like, what is this? Like, who are we looking at, you know.
Our people at this point, they're not very trusting of strangers, in general.
So they kinda look at the guy and go, like, I don't know about you, in the suit.
But at the same time, like, he's making a really nice offer and they're really in trouble.
Their place had just been trashed by the storm and all the difficulties they've been facing because of the Whisperers aftermath.
And lack of food and everything that goes with it.
We thought it'd be interesting at the end of this episode to do, like, just a deep flash forward.
And we had been thinking for awhile that Maggie was going to stay at the Hilltop and that Daryl was gonna go to the Commonwealth and eventually become a trooper.
And the, we're like, well, I mean, like, you could show them at, like, this point of conflict way down the line so that we wonder, like, what has happened in the intervene time.
Doesn't have to be this way.
Yeah, it does.